A message and declaration sent from Colonel Whaley, to the Right Honourable William Lenthal Esquire, Speaker of the House of Commons, concerning the Kings Majesties royall person, and engagement. Together with his demonstration and proposals, touching His gracious Majesty, and Mr. John Ashburnham (now attending his royal person in the Isle of Wight.) This message and declaration is appointed to be forthwith printed and published, by order and command of the said Colonell Whaley. December, 7. 1647. Whalley, Edward, d. 1675? 1647 Approx. 7 KB of XML-encoded text transcribed from 4 1-bit group-IV TIFF page images. Text Creation Partnership, Ann Arbor, MI ; Oxford (UK) : 2011-04 (EEBO-TCP Phase 2). A96269 Wing W1529 Thomason E419_14 ESTC R204069 99863777 99863777 161341

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Early English books online. (EEBO-TCP ; phase 2, no. A96269) Transcribed from: (Early English Books Online ; image set 161341) Images scanned from microfilm: (Thomason Tracts ; 66:E419[14]) A message and declaration sent from Colonel Whaley, to the Right Honourable William Lenthal Esquire, Speaker of the House of Commons, concerning the Kings Majesties royall person, and engagement. Together with his demonstration and proposals, touching His gracious Majesty, and Mr. John Ashburnham (now attending his royal person in the Isle of Wight.) This message and declaration is appointed to be forthwith printed and published, by order and command of the said Colonell Whaley. December, 7. 1647. Whalley, Edward, d. 1675? Lenthall, William, 1591-1662. [2], 5, [1] p. for George Whittington, at the Blew Anchor in Cornhill neere the Royall Exchange, Imprinted at London : 1647. A reply to: Ashburnham, John. A letter written by John Ashburnham Esquire, from Carisbrook Castle in the Isle of Wight, Novemb. 26. 1647. To William Lenthall Esquire, Speaker of the Honourable House of Commons. The words "now attending .. Wight." are enclosed in square brackets on title page. Imperfect: staining and print show-through. Reproduction of the original in the British Library.

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A MESSAGE AND DECLARATION SENT FROM Colonel Whaley, to the Right Honourable WILLIAM LENTHAL Eſquire, Speaker of the Houſe of Commons, CONCERNING The Kings Majeſties Royall Perſon, and Engagement. Together with his Demonſtration and Propoſals, touching His Gracious Majeſty, and Mr. John Aſhburnham [now attending His Royal Perſon in the Iſle of Wight.]

THis Meſſage and Declaration is appointed to be forthwith printed and publiſhed, by Order and Command of the ſaid Colonell Whaley.

DECEMBER, 7. 1647.

Imprinted at London for George Whittington, at the Blew Anchor in Cornhill necre the Royall Exchange, 1647.

A Letter from Colonel Whaley to William Lenthal, Speaker of the honourable Houſe of Commons. SIR,

I Am bold to affirme to you, that my engagements for the Parliament have bin with faithfulneſſe and truth undertaken, and though I have alwayes ſet a hïgh price of the Houſes favour endeavouring to anſwer it by diſcharging the duty of my place and truſt; yet I ever abhorred ſiniſter and unlawfull wayes, eſpecially ſuch abhominable ones, as to ing a iate my ſelf with them, by untruths, it is not God and my owne Conſcience alone, that will juſtifie me in this, but with confidence I may preſume, all the Godly in the Army that knowes me, ſo far as man can judge, will teſtifie the ſame: Therefore, being now accuſed by M. Aſhburnham in a letter to you, for the not declaring his Majeſties diſingaging himſelf by him [as hee ſaith he did] to me, the tenderneſſe of my reputation, bo h with you and all honeſt men in the kingdome puts me upon it, to write ſomething in anſwer to his Letter, that this groſſe failing, I ſhould ſpeak another language, did not I think his memorie failed him, may appear both to you himſelf, and the kingdome.

Mr. Aſhburnham in the beginning of his Letter ſaith he was the occaſion, that drew on his Majeſties Engagement how this ſhould be I cannot imagine, for the King made his Engagement to mee at New market, which I made known to the Generall and Officers, when Mr. Aſhburnham was in France. I confeſſe as I did declare, the King voluntarily renewed his Engagement at Wooburn, but that M. Aſhburnham had ſo much as a hand in that, it is more then ever I heard.

Mr. Aſhburnham further ſaith, that ſoone after ee came to wait on his Majeſtie at W oburn, Col. Wh ley came to me, as he ſaid by command from the Armie, to deſire I would give my word, that his Majeſtie would not depa t from them w thout their conſent, &c. I hat I ſpake to Mr. Aſhburnham to ngage himſelf for the Kings ſafe abiding with me. I will not deny, I have affirmed as much, but I am exceeding confident, I did it not in the name of the Armie, for I had no ſuch Commiſſion and it hath ever beene my eare to keep to my Commands.

That Mr. Aſhburnham found me walking b the River ſide, and there did diſingage himſelf from his former Engagement, I have already declared, but that I ſhould ſay, then the King doth ſo too, and he ſhould tell me, you are to underſtand it ſo, 'tis as true as the reaſon he backes it with: For he ſaith, to ſhew you, that Colon II Whaley rightly apprehended what I meant, hee ſoone after went to the Head Quarters, where he declared unto them (as I am credibly informed) that the King and my ſelfe had withdrawne our words, &c.

As to this, the Generall and all the Councel of War then met, are my witneſſes, I told them no ſuch thing, I acquainted them indeed M. Aſhburnham had taken off his Engagement but when they asked me, whether the King hath done it, I anſwered, as I id you in the Houſe upon the ſame Queſtion, which is in my Narrative, and left it to them to judge; and therefore I muſt return this upon Mr. Aſhburnham, and uſe it as an Argument agai ſt him, That if the King did command him to take off his Engagement, he did not diſcharge his Truſt for had he , I ſhould ſooner have acquainted the Generall and Officers that the King had diſcharged himſelfe, it being of greater weight then that Mr. Aſhburnham had.

I ſhould like wiſe have made known ſo much to his Excellencie in my Letter, when I writ to him, that Mr. Aſhburnham had diſſingaged himſelfe.

And ſince he goes about to prove his aſſ rtion, by circumſtances ed ll further make is pp ar, how little they make for him, had Mr. Aſhburnham taken off the King from his Engagement, he would have acquainted the Lieutenant Generall and Commiſſ nry Generall with it, as wel as with his own diſingagment, but they affirme to me the contrary, for about the ſame time, that Mr. Aſhburnham diſingaged himſelf, when he pretends he took off the Kings alſo, he went to putney to ſpeak with the Lieutenant Generall, and Commiſſary Generall, they refuſing to ſpeak with him, he ſent them word, hee would ſtand engaged for the King no longer, and gave this for his reaſon, There was ſo much Scotch ſpoken at the Court, but not one word of diſobliging the King.

I ſhall likewiſe appeale to all that knowes me, whe her they conceive me to be ſo ſimple, and of ſo poor a ſpirit, that when the King had perſonally engaged himſelf to me, J ſhould remain ſatisfied, that Mr. Aſhburnham ſhould tell me the King withdrew his Engagement, certainly I ſhould have known the Kings pleaſure in it, J was never at ſuch a diſtance from the King, neither wanted ſo much boldneſſe, to ask him a queſtion of ſuch concernment.

Mr. Speaker,

I think J have ſufficiently demonſtrated, to you, and J doubt not, but it will ſatisfie all indifferent men, that if the King did command Mr. Aſhburnham, as it ſeemed to him he did, to take off his Engagement, he hath not diſcharged his-truſt; and this for the clearing my owne integrity J have done,

And the Righteous GOD that ſhall judge us all, knowes J have related the truth; and whatever men believe, J matter not, it is not the praiſe of men J ſeeke, my witneſſe is with God, J remaine

SIR, Your very humble and faithfull Servant, For the Right Honourable WILLIAM Lenthal Eſquire, Speaker of the Honourable Houſe of Commons. FINIS.