IT may please you (Master Speaker) preface will I use none, but put my selfe upon your good opinions, to which I have beene ac­customed beyond my de­servings, neither will I hold you in suspence, what way I will chuse, but now at the first de­clare my selfe, that I meane to counsell the [Page 2]House to Naturalize this Nation, wherein ne­verthelesse I have a request to make unto you, which is of more efficacy to the purpose I have in hand, than all that I shall say afterwards: And it is the same request, which Demosthenes did more then once, in great causes of estate, make to the people of Athens, That when they took into their hands the Balls, where­by to give their voices (according as the man­ner of them was) they would raise their thoughts, and lay aside those considerations, which their private vacations and degrees might minister and represent unto them, and would take upon them, cogitations and minds agreeable to the dignity and honour of the estate.

For (Master Speaker) as it was aptly and sharply said by Alexander to Parmenio, when upon their recitall of the great offers which Darius made, Parmenio said unto him, I would accept these offers, were I as Alexander, hee turned it upon him againe, so would I (saith hee) were I as Parmenio, so in this cause: if an honest English Merchant (I doe not single out that State in disgrace, for this Island ever held it honourable, but only for an in­stance of a private profession) If an English Merchant should say, surely I would proceed no further in the union, were I as the King, it might bee reasonably answered, no more [Page 3]would the King, were he as an English Mer­chant; and the like may be said of a Gentle­man in the Country, bee he never so worthy or sufficient, or of a Lawyer be hee never so wise or learned, or of any other particular condition in this Kingdome, for certainly (Ma­ster Speaker) if a man shall be only or chiefly sensible of those respects which his particu­lar affection, and degree shall suggest, and in­fuse into him, and not enter into true and wor­thy considerations of estate, he shall never be able aright to give counsell, or take counsell in this matter, for that if this request be grant­ed, I account the cause obtained.

But to proceed to the matter it self; all con­sultations do rest upon questions comparative, for when a question is de vero, it is simple, for there is but one truth, but when a question is de bono, it is for the most part comparative, for there be differing degrees of good and evill, and the best of the good is to be preferred and chosen, and the worst of the evill is to be declined and avoided, and therefore in que­stions of this nature, you may not looke for answer, proper to every inconvenience allea­ged, for somewhat that cannot be specially answered, may neverthelesse be encountred, and overweighed by matter of greater mo­ment, and therefore, for the matter which I [Page 4]shall set forth unto you, will naturally receive the distribution of three parts.

First, The answer to the inconve­niencies obje­cted cōcerning the Naturali­vation. an answer to these inconveniences which have beene alleaged to ensue, if wee should give way to this Naturalization, which I suppose you will not finde to bee, which I suppose will not be so great, as they have bin made, but that much drosse is put into the bal­lance, to help to make weight.

Secondly, an encounter against the remayn­der of these inconveniences, which cannot properly be answered, by much greater incon­veniences, which wee shall incurre, if wee doe not proceed to this Naturalization.

Thirdly, an encounter likewise, but of an­other nature, that is by the gaine and benefit, which wee shall draw and purchase to our selves by proceeding to this Naturalization. And yet to avoid confusion, which ever fol­loweth of too much generality, it is necessary for me (before I proceed to perswasion) to use some distribution of the points or parts of Na­turalization, which certainly can be no better, or none other, than the ancient distinction of jus Civitatis, jus suffragii vel tribus, Jus Petitionis sive honoris: for all ability and capacitie is either of private interest, of Meum & Tuum, or of publike service, and the publike consisteth [Page 5]chiefly either in voice or in office, now it is the first of these (Master Speaker) that I will only handle at this time, and in this place, and referre the other two for a Committee, because they receive more distinction and re­striction.

To come to the inconveniences alleaged on the other part, the first of them is, that their may ensue of this Naturalization, a sur­charge of people upon this Realm of England, which is supposed already, to have the full charge and contentment, and therefore there cannot be an admission of the adoptive, with­out a dismission of the former times, and con­ditions of all those, that are native subjects of this Realm. A grave objection, (Master Spea­ker) and very dutifull, for it proceeds not, of any unkindnesse to the Scottish Nation, but of a naturall fastnesse to our selves, for that an­swer of the Virgins, Ne forte non sufficiat vobis & nobis, proceeds not out of any envy, or maligne humour, but out of providence, and the originall charity, which begins with our selves, and I must confesse (M. Speaker) that as the Gentleman said, when Abraham and Lot, in regard of the greatnesse of their Fami­lies, grew pent, and straitned, It is true, that though they were brethren, they grew to dif­ference, and to those words, Vade tu ad dexte­ram, [Page 6]& ego ad sinistram; But certainly, I should never have brought that example on that side, for wee see what followed of it, how this se­paration ad dextram & ad sinistram, Caused the miserable captivity of the one brother, and the dangerous though prosperous war of the other, for his rescue and recovery.

But to this objection, (Master Speaker) be­ing so weighty, and so principall, I meane to give three severall answers, every one of them being to my understanding by it selfe Sufficient.

The first is, The opinion of the number of th [...] Scottish Nation. that the opinion, of the num­ber of the Scottish Nation, that should be likely to plant themselves here amongst us, will bee found to bee a thing, rather in conceit then in event, for (Master Speaker) you shall finde these plausible similitudes of a tree, that will thrive the better, if it bee remooved into the more fruitfull soile, and of sheepe or cattell, that if they finde a gap or passage open, will leave the more barren pasture, and get into the more rich and plentifull, to be but argu­ments meerely superficiall, and to have no sound resemblance, with the transplanting or transferring of families, for the tree we know by nature, as soone as it is set in the better ground, can fasten upon it, and take nutriment from it, and a sheep as soone as he gets into [Page 7]the better pasture, what should let him to grase or feed, But there belongeth more I take it, to a family or particular person, that shall remove from one Nation to another, for if (Master Speaker) they have not stock, meanes, acquaintance, and custome, habita­tion, trades, countenance, and the like, I hope you doubt not, but they will starve in the midst of the rich pasture, and are farre enough from grazing at their pleasure, and therefore in this point, which is conjecturall, Conjecturall experience. experience is the best guide for the time past, is a pattern of the time to come, I think no man doubteth (Master Speaker) but his Majesties first com­ing in, was the greatest spring-tide for the confluence, and enterance of that Na­tion.

Now I would fain understand in these four yeeres space, and the fulnesse, and strength of the Court and Tide, how many families of the Scotch men, are planted in the Citties, Burroughs and Townes of this Kingdom, for I doe assure my selfe, then more then some persons of quality, about his Majesties person heere at Court and in London, and some other inferiour persons, that have a dependance up­on them, the returne and certificate, if such a Survey should bee made, would be of a num­ber extreamely small, I report mee to all your [Page 8]private knowledges of the places where you inhabite.

Now (Master Speaker) as I said, Si in ligno vi­ridi ita fit, quid fiet in arido, I am sure there will be no more such spring tides; but you will tell me of a multitude of families of the Scottish na­tion in Polania, and if they multiply in a Coun­trey so farre, how much more at hand, for that (Master Speaker) you must impute it of necessity to some speciall accident of time and prace that draws thē thether: for you see plainly before your eys, that in Geneva, which is much neerer, where in France they are invited with priviledges, and with the very priviledge of naturalization, yet no such number can bee found, so as it cannot either bee neerenes of place, or priviledge of person that is the cause. But shall I tell you (Master Speaker) what I thinke; In all the places of the world, neere or farre of, they will never take that course of life in this Kingdome, which they content themselves with in Poland; for we see ir to bee the nature of all men that will rather discover poverty abroad then at home; There is never a gentleman, that hath over reached himself in expences, and thereby must abate his coun­tenance, but hee will rather travell, and doe it abroad, then at home, and we know well they have good high stomacks, and have ever [Page 9]stood in some tearmes of emulation, and ther­fore they will never live heere except they can live in good fashion, so as I assure you (Master Speaker) I am of opinion, that the first which we now have, to admit them, will have like as that contention had between the Nobility and people of Rome, for admitting of a Plebean Common-wealth, whilst it was in passage it was very vehement, and mightily stood upon, and when the people had obtained it, they never made any Plebean Consul, not in 60 yeers after, and so will this be, for many yeers, as I am perswaded, rather a matter in opinion and reputation, then in effect, and this is the first answere, that I give to this main inconve­nience pretended of surcharge of people.

The second answere, England not peopled to the full. which I give to this objection is this, I must have leave to doubt (Master Speaker) that this Realme of England is not peopled to the full, for certain it is, that the territories of France, Italy, Flanders, and some part of Germany, doe in equall space of ground, beare and containe, a farre greater quantity of people, if they were mustered by the Poll, neither can I see, that this King­dome is so much inferiour, unto those forrain parts in fruitfulnesse, as it is in population, which makes mee conceive wee have not our full charge; besides I do see manifestly a­mongst [Page 10]us, the badges and tokens, rather of scarcenesse, then of presse of people, as drow­ned grounds, Commons, Wastes, and the like, which is a plain demonstration, that howsoe­ver there may be an overswelling throng and presse of people, here about London, which is most in our eie, yet the body of the Kingdome is but thin sowne with people, and whosoe­ver shal compare the ruines and decayes of an­cient Towns in this Realme, with the erect­ments and augmentations of new, cannot but judge that this Realme hath been farre better peopled in former times, it may be in the Hep­tarchy, or otherwise generally the rule holdeth, The smaller the State the greater the populati­on Pro rato, And whether this be true or no, we neede not seeke further, then to call to our re­membrance, how many of us serue heere in this place, for desolate and decayed Bur­roughs,

Againe, Mediterrane, not Maritime Countries surcharged with people. (Master Speaker) whosoever loo­keth into the principle of estate, must hold, that it is the Mediterrane Countries, and not the Maritime which need to feare surcharge of people, for all sea provinces and especially Islands have an other element besides the earth and soile, for their sustentation, what an infinite of people are, and may bee sustained by fishing, carriage by sea, and merchandizing, [Page 11]wherein I doe again discover, that wee are not all prickt by the multitude of people, for if we were, it were not possible, wee should relin­quish, and resigne, such an infinite benefit of fishing, to the Flemming, as it is well knowne wee do, and therefore I see, that wee have wasts by Sea, as well as by land, which still is an infallible argument that our industry is not awakned, to seeke maintenance to any our great charge or presse of people. And lastly, (Master Speaker) there was never any Kingdome in this World, had I think, so faire and happy means to issue and discharge them ultitude of their people, as this Kingdom hath, in regard of that desolate and wasted Kingdome of Ireland, which being a countrey blessed with all most all the dowryes of na­ture, as Rivers, Havens, Woods, Quarryes, good Soile, and temperate climate, and now at last blest under his Majesty also with obedi­ence, doth as it were continually call unto us, for our Colonies and Plantations, and so I conclude my second answere, to this preten­ded inconvenience of surcharge of people.

The third answer (Maister Speaker) which I give is this, I demande what is the worst ef­fect that can follow of your surcharge of peo­ple, look into it and you shall finde it none o­ther then some honourable warre, for the en­largement [Page 12]of their borders, which finde them­selves pent, upon forraine parts, with incon­veniences, which in a warlike Nation, I know not whether I should tearme an inconveni­ence or noe, for the saying is most true, though in an other lense, Omne solum forti patria. It was spoken of the patience of an exiled man, but it is no lesse true in the valour of a war­like Nation, and certainly (Master Speaker) I hope I may speake it without offence, that whensoever we should hold our selves worthy, and whensoever just cause should bee given, either to recover our ancient rights, or to revenge our late wrongs, or to at­taine the honour of our ancestors, or to en­large the patrimony of our posterities, wee would never in this manner forget the consi­derations of amplitude and greatnesse, and fall at variance about profit and reckonings, fitter a great deale for private persons, then for Parliaments, and Kingdomes, and thus (Master Speaker) I leave this first obje­ction, to such satisfactions as you have heard of.

The second objection is, The funda­mentall Laws of England & Scotland are divers and se­verall. that the fundamen­tall lawes of these Kingdomes, of England and Scotland, are yet diverse and severall, nay more that it is declared by the instrument, that they shall so continue; and that there is no intent in [Page 13]his Majesty to make innovation in them, and therefore that it should not bee seasonable, to proceed to this Naturalization, whereby to endow them with our Rights and Privile­ges, except they should likewise receive, and submit themselves to our lawes, and this ob­jection likewise (Master Speaker) I allow to be a weighty objection and worthy to be well answered, and discussed.

The answere which I shall offer is this, The answer to the second ob­jection. It is true for mine owne part (Master Speaker) that I wish the Scottish Nation governed by our Lawes, for I hold our lawes, with some reducement, worthy to govern, and it were the World, but this is that which I say, and I de­sire therein your attention, That according to true reason of estate, Naturalization is in order first and precedent to union of Lawes, and in nature seperable, and in degree a lesse matter, and not inseperable from union of Laws, for Naturalization doth but take out the marks of a Forreiner, but union of Lawes makes them entirely as our selves, Naturalization ta­keth away seperation, but union of lawes doth take away distinction, doe wee not see (Master Speaker) that in the administration of the World under the great Monarch God him­selfe that his Laws are diverse, one Law in spirits, another in bodies, one Law in Re­gions celestiall, an other in Elementary, and yet the Creatures are all one masse or lump, without any vacuum or seperation, doe wee [Page 14]not likewise see in the state of the Church, that amongst all people, of all languages, and Linages, there is communion of Saints, and that wee are all fellow Citizens, and Natu­ralizants of the heavenly Jerusalem, And yet neuer the lesse, divers Ecclesiasticall Laws, Policies and Heirarchies, according to the speech of that worthy Father, In veste varietas sit, scissura non sit, and these certainly (Master Speaker) as they are the bonds of love they are the more speciall and private bond, and the bond of Naturalization, the more com­mon and generall, for the lawes are rather Figura Reipublicae, then forma, and rather Bonds of perfection, then Bonds of entirenesse, and therefore we see in the experience of our own government, that in the Kingdome of Ireland, all our Statutes and Laws, Poynings Laws. since Poynings Laws, are not in force, and yet we deny them not the benefit of Naturalization, in Gersey and Jernesey and the Isle of Man, our common Lawes are not in force, and yet they have the benefit of Naturalization, neither need any man doubt, but that our Lawes and Customes must in small time gather and win upon theirs, for here is the seate of the Kingdome, whence come the supreame directions of estate, here is the Kings person and example of which the verse saith, [Page 15] ‘Regis ad exemplum, totus componitur orbis.’

And therefore it is not possible, although not by solemne and formall acts of estates, yet by the secret operation of no long time, but they will come under the yoake of our laws, and so Dulcis tractus pari jugo, and this is the answere I give to the second objection.

The third objection, is some inequallity, Inequality in the fortunes betweene Eng­land and Scot­land. in the fortunes of these two Nations, England and Scotland, by the commixture whereof, there may ensue advantage to them, and losse to us, wherein (M. Speaker) it is well that this diffe­rence or disparity consisteth, but in the external goods of fortune, for indeed it must bee con­fessed that for the goods of the minde and bo­dy they are alteri nos, or our selves, for to doe them but right, wee know in their capaci­ties and understandings, they are a people ingenious, in labour industrious, in cou­rage valiant, in body hard, active, and comely, more might be said, but in com­mending them, we doe but in effect, commend our selves, for they are of one part, and conti­nent with us, and the truth is, we are partici­pant, both of their vertue, and vices, for if they have beene noted, to be a people not soe tra­ctable in government, we cannot without flat­tering [Page 16]our selves, free our selves altogether from that fault, being indeed incident to all martiall people, as wee see it evident by the example of the Romans, and others, even like unto fierce horses, that though they be of bet­ter service then others, yet are they harder to guide and manage.

But for this objection (Master Speaker) I purpose to answere it, not by the authority of Scriptares, which saith, Beatius est dare quam accipere, But an authority, framed and derived from the judgment of our selves, and our an­cestors in the same case; as to the point, for (Master Speaker) in all the lives of our Kings, none useth to carry greater cōmendation then his Majesties noble progenitor King Edward the first of that name, and amongst his other cōmendations, both of warre and policie, none is more celebrated, then his purpose and enter­prise, for that conquest of Scotland, as not ben­ding his designes, to glorious acquests abroad, but to solid strength at home, which neverthe­lesse if it had succeeded, could not but have brought in all these inconveniences, of the commixture of a more opulent Kingdome, with a lesse, Laws nor Arms cannot alter the na­ture of climats. that are now alledged, for it is not the yoake, either of our lawes or armes, that can alter the nature of the Climate, or the na­ture of the soil, neither is it the manner of [Page 17]the Commixture, that can alter the nature of Commixture, and therefore (Master Speaker) if it were good for us then, it is good for us now, and not to be prized the lesser, because we payed not so deare for it. But a more full objection, I refer over to that, which will come after, to bee spoken touching surety, and greatnesse.

The fourth Objection (Master Speaker) is not properly an objection but rather a preoc­cupation of an objection of the other side, for it may bee said and very materially, where­abouts wee doe contend, the benefit of Natu­ralization is by the Law, in as many as have beene, or shall bee borne, since his Majesties comming to the Crown, already setled and invested, there is no more then, but to bring the Ante-nati, into the degree of the Post-nati, that men grown, that have well deserved, may bee in no worse case, then children which have not deserved, and elder brothers in no worse case, then younger brothers, so as wee stand upon quiddam non quantum, being but a little difference of time, of one generation from an other, to this (M. Speaker) it is said by some, that the Law is not so but that the post­nati are aliens as the rest. A pointe, that I mean not much to argue, both because it hath been well spoken, by the gentleman that spoke last [Page 18]before mee, and because I doe desire in this case, and in this place, to speak rather of Con­veniencie, then of Law, only this I will say, that, that opinion seems to mee contrary to o­pinion of Law, and contrary to Authority, and experience of Law; for reason of Law, when I meditate of it, my thinks the wisdome of the Common Lawes of England well observed, is admirable in the distribution of the benefit and protection of the Laws, according to the several conditions of persons in an excellent proportion, the degrees are foure, but bi­partite; two of Aliens, and two of Sub­jects.

The first degree is of an alien borne under a King, The first de­gree of an alien. or State, that is enemy, if such an one come into this Kingdom without safe conduct, it is at his perrill, the Law giveth him no pro­tection neither for Body, Lands, nor Goods, so as if hee be slaine, there is no remedy by a­ny appeale at the parties suit although the par­ty were an English woman, marry at the Kings suit, the case may bee otherwise in reguard of the offence, to the peace, and Crown.

The second degree is of an alien that is born under the faith and alleigeance of a King or state, The second de­gree of an a­lien born un­der a State, that is Friend. that is a friend, unto such a person, the Law doth imparte a great benefit and prote­ction [Page 19]that is concerning things personall, tran­sitory and moveable, as goods and chattells, contracts and the like, but not concerning freehold and Inheritance, and the reason is be­cause hee may be an enemy, though he be not; for the State under the obeysance of which hee is may enter into quarrell, and hostility, and therefore as the Law, hath but a transitory assurance of him, so it rewards him, but with transitory benefits.

The third degree is of a subject who having beene an alien is by charter and denisation, The third de­gree of an a­lien subject. to such an one, the law doth imparte, yet a more ample benefit, for it gives him power to purchase freehold and inheritance to his owne use, and likewise to enable those Chil­dren, borne after his denization to inherit, but neverthelesse hee cannot make title, or con­vey pedigree from any ancestors peramount, for the Law thinks not good to make him in the same degree, with a subject born, because hee was once an alien, and so might once have beene an Enemy, Et nemo subito fingitur, affecti­ons cannot be setled by any benefit, as when from their Nativity, they are imbred, and in­herent.

And the fourth degree, The fourth degree the per­fect degree. which is the perfect [Page 20]degree, is of such a person, as neither is enemy, nor can be enemy in time to come, nor would have beene enemy in time past, nor can bee enemy in time to come, therefore the Law gives unto him, the full benefit of Naturali­zation.

Now (Master Speaker) if these be true steps and paces of the Law; no man can deny, but whosoever is borne under the Kings obedi­ence never could in aliquo puncto temporis bee an enemy, and therefore in reason of Law, is natural, Nay, contrariwise, he is bound Jure na­tivitatis to defend this Kingdome of England, against all Innovators and Rebells, and there­fore as hee is obliged to the protection of A­liens, and that perpetually, and universally, so he is to have that perpetuall and universall be­nefit and protection of lawes which is Natu­ralization.

For forme of pleading it is true that hath beene said, that if a man, would pleade an o­ther to be an alien, he must not only set forth negatively, and primitively, that hee was born out of the obedience of our Soveraine Lord the King, but affirmatively, under the obedi­ense of a forraine King, or state, in par­ticular, which never can bee done in this case.

As for authority, I will not presse it, you know all what hath beene published by the Kings Proclamation, and for experience of Lawes, wee see it in the subjects of Ireland, in the Subjects of Gernsey, and Iernesey, parcels of the Duchy of Normandy, in the Subjects of Callis, when it was English, which was parcel of the Crowne of France, But as I said, I am not willing to enter into an argument of Law, but to hold my selfe to point of conveniencie, so as for my part, I hold all, Naturales ipso jure, But yet I am farr from opinion, that it should be a thing superfluous to have it done by.

Chiefely in respect of that true principall of State, Principum actiones ad famam sunt Com­ponendae, It will lift up a signe to all the World, of our Loves towards them, and good agree­ment with them, and these are (M^r. Speaker, the materiall objections, which have beene on the other side, whereunto you have heard my answeres, weigh them in your wisdomes, and so I conclude that generall part.

Now (Master Speaker) according as I pro­mised I must fill the other ballance, in expres­sing unto you the inconveniences, which wee shall incur, if we shall not proceed to this Na­turalization, wherein that convenience above all others, and alone by it selfe, if there were [Page 22]none other, doth exceedingly moove mee, and may moove you, is a position of estate, colle­cted out of the Records of time, which is this, That whatsoever severall Kingdomes or E­states, have bene united in Soverainty, if that union hath not beene fortified, and bound in with a further union, and namely that which is now in question (of Naturalization) this hath followed, that at one time or other, they have broken, being upon all occasions apt to relaps and revolt to the former Sepera­tion.

Of this assertion, The first example which I will set before you, is of the memorable U­nion, The union be­tween the Ro­mans and the Latins. which was betweene the Romans and the Latins, which continued from the Battell at the Lake of Regilla, for many yeeres unto the Consulship.

At what time, their began about this very point of Naturalization, that warr which was called Bellum Sociale, being the most bloody and pernitious warre, that ever the Romane State endured, wherein after numbers of bat­tles, and infinite sieges and surprises of Towns, the Romanes in the end prevailed, and ma­stred the Latins, And ever as they held the honour of the warre, so looking back into what perdition and confusion, they were near [Page 23]to have beene brought, they presently natu­ralized them all, you speake of a naturalization in blood, there was a naturalization indeed in blood.

Let me set before you againe, Sparta and Po­loponcsus. the example of Sparta and the rest of the Peneloponesus their associates. The State of Sparta, was a nice and jealous state of this point of imparting na­turalization to their confederates. But what was the issue of it, after they held them in a kind of society and amity for diversyeers, upon the first occasiō given which was no more then the surprisall of the Castle of Thebes, by certaine desperate conspirators in the habit of Masters, there ensued imediately a general revolt & de­fection of their associates, which was the ruine of their State never afterwards to be reco­vered.

Of latter times, The Union of the Kingdome of Arragon. Let me lead your considerati­ons, to behold the like events in the Kingdom of Arragon, which Kingdom was united with Castile, and the rest of Spain, in the persons of Ferdinando, and Isabella, and so continued many years, but yet so as it stood a Kingdome severed and devided from the rest of Spaine in priviledges, and directly in this point of Natu­ralization, or capacity of inheritance, what came of this, Thus much, that now of fresh [Page 24]memory, not past twelve yeeres since, onely upon the voice of a condemned man, out of the grate of a prison, towards the streete, that cried [...] which is as much as Liberties or Priviledges, there was raised a dangerous re­bellion, which was suppressed with difficulty with an army Royall, and their priviledges disanulled, and they incorporated, with the rest of Spaine, upon so small a sparke, notwith­standing so long continuance, were ready to break, and sever again.

The like may be said of the State of Florence, Florence and Pisa. and Pisa, which City of Pisa being united unto Florence, but not endued with the benefit of Naturalization, upon the first sight of forraine assistance, Charles the Eighth. by the expedition of Charles the 8^th. of France into Italy, did revolte, though it bee since againe reunited, and incorporated.

The same effect wee see in the most barba­rous Government, The like ef­fects in barba­rous govern­ments. which shewes it the rather to bee an effect of nature, for it was thought a fit policy by the councell of Constantinople, to retaine the Provinces of Transylvania, Valachia, and Moldavia, which were as the nurses of Con­stantinople, in respect of their provisions, to the end they might bee the lesse wasted, onely un­der Vayvods, as Vassals and Homagers, and not under Bashaws, as Provinces of the Yurkish Em­pire, [Page 25]w^ch policy we see by late experience pro­ved unfortuuate, as appeared by the revolt of the same three Provinces, under the Armies & Conduct of Sigismond Prince of Transilvania a leader very famous for a time, which revolt is not yet fully recovered, whereas we seldome or never hear of revolts of Provinces incorpo­rate to the Turkish Empire.

On the other part (Master Speaker) because it is true, which the Logicians say, Opposita jux­ta se posita magis, Let us take a view, and wee shall find that wheresoever Kingdomes and States have beene united, and that union incor­roberate, Naturali­zation a sure bond. by the bond of Naturalization mu­tually, you shall never observe them after­wards upon any occasion of trouble or other­wise, to breake, and sever againe, as wee see most evidently before our eies, in our Provin­ces of France that is to say Guyen, Province, Nor­mandy, Britain, which notwithstanding the infinite infesting troubles of that Kingdome, never offered to breake again.

We see the like effect, in all the Kingdomes of Spaine, which are mutually Naturalized as Leon, Castile, Valentia, Andaluzia, Granada, and the rest, except Arragon which held the contrary course, and therefore had the con­trary [Page 26]successe, as it was said of Portugall, of which there is not yet sufficient triall, and lastly wee see the like effect, England never severed after once united. in our own Nation, which never rent asunder after it was united, so as wee now scarce know whether the Heptarchy were a Story or a Fable, and therefore (Master Speaker) when I revolue with my selfe, these examples and others, so lively expressing the necessity of a Naturalization to avoid a relaps into a separation, and doe heere see ma­ny arguments and scruples on the other side, it makes mee think on the old Bishop which upon a publique disputation of certaine Chri­stian Divines, with some learned men of the heathen, did extreamely presse to bee heard, and they were loath to suffer him, because they knew hee was unlearned, though otherwise an holy, and well meaning man, But at last, with much adoe hee got to be heard, and when hee came to speake, in stead of using Argument, he did only say over his belief, but did it with such assurance and constancy, that it did strike the minds of those that heard him, more then any Argument had done, and so (Master Speaker) against all these wittie and subtile Arguments, I say I doe believe, and I would bee sorry to bee found a prophet in it, that except we pro­ceed with this Naturalization, though not per­haps in his Majesties time, who hath such inte­rest [Page 27]in both nations, yet in the meane time of his Discendants, these realms will bee in con­tinuall danger, to divide and breake again, now if any man bee of that carelesse minde, Maneat mors ea, ea cura nepotes.

Or of that harde minde to leave things to be tried by the sharpest sword, sure I am, hee is not of Saint Pauls opinion, who affirmeth that whosoever useth not fore-sight and provi­sion for his family, is worse then an unbelie­ver, much more if wee shall not use fore-sight, for these two Kingdomes, that comprehend in them so many families, but leave things open to the perill of future divisions, and thus have I expressed unto you, what inconve­niences, of all others sinke deepest with mee, as the most weighty, neither doth their want other inconveniences (Master Speaker) the effects and influence whereof, I feare will not bee adjourned to so long a day, as this that I have spoken of, But I leave it to your conside­rations, and wisdomes, to consider, whether you doe not thinke, in case by the deniall of this Naturalization, any Pike, alienation, or unkindnesse, I doe not say should bee, but should be thought to bee, or noised to bee be­tweene these two Nations, whether it will not quicken or exite, all the envious, and ma­licious [Page 28]humours, wheresoever (which are now covered) against us, either forraine or at home, and so open the way to practice, A binding in­convenience. and other Engines, and machinations, to the disturbance of this State. As for that other inconvenience, it is too binding and too pressing to be spoken of, and may do better a great deale in your mindes then in my mouth, or the mouth of any man else, because as I have said it doth presse our liberty too farre, and therefore (M. Speaker) I come to this third generall part of my division, concerning the benefit which we shall purchase, by knitting this knott, surer and straiter, betweene these two King­domes, by the Communicating of Naturali­zation.

The benefits may appeare to be two, the one surety the other greatnesse, touching sure­ty (Master Speaker) it was well said by Titus Quintus the Romane, The benefit of Surety. touching the State of Pelo­penesus, that the Tortoise is safe within her shell, Testudo inter tegumen tutaest, but if there be any parts that ly open, they endanger all the rest, wee know well, that although the state at this time bee in a happy peace, yet for the time past, the more ancient enemy is the French, and the more late the Spaniard, and both these had as it were, their severall po­stern [Page 29]gates, whereby they might have approach and enterance, to anoy us, France had Scotland and Spaine had Ireland, for these were but the two accesses which did comfort and encourage, both these enemies to assaile and trouble us, wee see that of Scotland is cut off, by the Union of these two Kingdomes, if that it shall bee made constant and permanent, that of Ire­land is cut off likewise by the convenient situation of the North of Scotland, towards the North of Ireland, where the sore was, which wee see being suddenly closed by meanes of this salve, so that as now there are no parts of the State exposed to danger to bee a temptation to the ambition of For­reiners, but their approches and avenues are taken away, for I doe little doubt but these Forreners, which had so little successe, when they had those advantages, will have much lesse comfort, now that they bee taken from them, and soe much for surety.

For greatnesse (Master Speaker) I thinke a man may speake it soberly, The benefit of greatnesse. and without bravery, that this Kingdome of England, having Scotland united; Ireland reduced, the Sea provinces of the low Countries Con­tracted, [Page 30]and shipping maintained, is one or the greatest Monarchies, in forces truly e­steemed, that hath beene in the World, for certainly the Kingdomes heere on earth, have a resemblance with the Kingdome of Heaven, which our Saviour compareth not to any great Kirnell or nut, but to a very small graine, yet such an one as is apt to grow and spread, and such doe I take to be the Constitution of this Kingdome, if in­deed our Countrey bee referred to great­nesse and power, and not quenched too much with the consideration of utility and wealth, for (M. Speaker) was it not thinke you a true answere, that Solon of Greece made to rich King Croesus of Lydia, when he shew­ed unto him a great quantity of Gold that hee had gathered together in ostentation of his greatnesse and might, but Solon said to him contrary to his expectation, why Sir, if an other come that hath better Iron then you, hee will bee Lord of all your Gold; neither is the authority of Machiavel to be despised, who scorneth the proverbe of State, taken first from a speech of Mucianus, that monies are the sinewes of wars, and saith, there are no true sinews of wars, but the very Armes of valiant men.

Nay more (Master Speaker) whosoever shall look into the seminary, The begin­ning of Mo­narchies foun­ded in poverty and beginning of the Monarchie of the world, hee shall finde them founded in poverty.

Persia a Countery barren and poore in respect of Media whom they seduced. Macedon.

Macedon a Kingdome ignoble, and mer­cenary untill Phillip the Sonne of Amintas.

Rome had poore and pastorall begin­ning. Rome.

The Tuoks a band of Sarmathian Scithes, The Turks. that in a vagabond maner made impression upon that part of Asia which is called Tur­comania, out of which, after much varieties of fortune, sprung the Othoman family now the terror of the World.

So we know the Gothes, Vandalls, Alans, Huns, Lombards, Normans, and the rest of the Northern people, in one age of the World, made their discent and expedition upon the Romane Empire, and came not as rovers to carry away prey and begun again, but planted themselves in a number of rich and fruitfull Provinces, where not only [Page 32]their generations, but their names remaine to this day, witnesse Lombardy, Catalonia, a name compounded of Goth and Alan, Andaluzia, a name corrupted from Vande­litia, Hungaria, Normandy, and others.

Nay the fortune of the Swisses of late yeeres, The Switzers. which are bred in a barren and mountenous Countrey, is not to bee for­gotten, who first ruined the duke of Burgun­dy, the same who had almost ruined the Kingdome of France, what time after the battell neere Granson, The rich Jewell of Burgundy, prised at many thousands, was sold for a few pence, by a common Swisse, that knew no more what a jewell meant, then did Esopes Cock; and againe, the same Nation in revenge of a scorne was the ruine of the French Kings affaires in Italy, Lewis the 12. for that King, when hee was pressed somewhat rudely, by an agent of the Swis­sers, to raise their pensions, brake into words of choller, (what saith hee) will these vil­lains of the mountain put a taske upon mee, which words lost him his Duchy of Millain, and chased him out of Italy.

All which examples (Master Speaker) doe well prove Solons opinion, of the autho­rity [Page 33]and Majesty that Iron hath over Gold, and therefore if I shall speake unto you mine owne heart, me thinkes we should a little disdaine, that the Nation of Spain, which howsoever of late it hath begun to rule, yet of ancient time, served many ages, first under Carthage, then under Rome, after under Saracens, Goths and others, should of late yeeres take unto them that Spirit, as to dreame of a monarchy in the West, according to that devise, vidi Solem Orientem in Occidente, onely because they have raised, from some wild, and unarmed people, Mines and store of Gold, and on the other side, that this Island of Britain, seated and named as it is, and that hath, I make no question, the best Iron in the World, that is the best souldiers of the World, shall thinke of nothing but ac­compts and audits, and meum & tuum and I cannot tell what.

(Master Speaker) I have I take it, gone through the parts which I propoūded to my selfe, wherein if any man shall think I have sung a placebo, for mine owne particular, I would have him know that I am not so un­seene in the world, but that I discerne, it were much alike for my private fortune a tacebo, as to sing a placebo in this businesse, [Page 34]But I have spoken out of the Fountain of my heart, Credidi propter quod locutus sum, I believed, therefore I spake, so as my duty is performed, The Judgments is yours, God direct it for the best.