A second letter sent from John Ashe Esquire, a Member of the House of Commons, to the Honourable VVilliam Lenthall, Esquire, Speaker of the House of Commons in Parliment. Concerning divers messages, and passages between the Marquesse Hartford, Lord Pawlet, Lord Seymour, Lord Coventry, and others his Majesties commissioners: and the deputy lievtenants and other commissioners for the county of Somerset. Together with divers propositions for peace, by the commissioners and deputy lievtenants for that county. And the Lord Hartford, Lord Pawlet, Lord Seymour, and others answer thereunto. Ordered by the Commons in Parliament that this be forthwith printed and published. H. Elsyn. Cler. Parl. Dom. Com.

A second letter sent from John Ashe Esquire, a Member of the House of Commons, to the Honourable VVilliam Lenthall, Esquire, Speaker of the House of Commons in Parliment. Concerning divers messages, and passages between the Marquesse Hartford, Lord Pawlet, Lord Seymour, Lord Coventry, and others his Majesties commissioners: and the deputy lievtenants and other commissioners for the county of Somerset. Together with divers propositions for peace, by the commissioners and deputy lievtenants for that county. And the Lord Hartford, Lord Pawlet, Lord Seymour, and others answer thereunto. Ordered by the Commons in Parliament that this be forthwith printed and published. H. Elsyn. Cler. Parl. Dom. Com.

A second letter sent from John Ashe Esquire, a Member of the House of Commons, to the Honourable VVilliam Lenthall, Esquire, Speaker of the House of Commons in Parliment. Concerning divers messages, and passages between the Marquesse Hartford, Lord Pawlet, Lord Seymour, Lord Coventry, and others his Majesties commissioners: and the deputy lievtenants and other commissioners for the county of Somerset. Together with divers propositions for peace, by the commissioners and deputy lievtenants for that county. And the Lord Hartford, Lord Pawlet, Lord Seymour, and others answer thereunto. Ordered by the Commons in Parliament that this be forthwith printed and published. H. Elsyn. Cler. Parl. Dom. Com.

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A ſecond Letter ſent from Iohn Aſhe Eſquire, a Member of the Houſe of Commons, to the Honourable VVilliam Lenthall Eſquire, Speaker of the Houſe of Commons,

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The firſt Meſſage ſent from the Lord Marqueſſe of Hertford, and the Commiſſioners, by Mr. Stocker, Mr. Baſsit, and Mr. Brown.

The Committees and Deputy Lieutenants firſt Anſwer to the Lords Commiſſioners Meſſage.

The ſecond Meſſage ſent from the Lo: Marqueſſe and the other Commiſſioners by Mr. Stocker, Mr. Baſsit, and Mr. Brown, upon the delivery of the Committees firſt Anſwer.

The laſt Meſſage and Anſwer of the Committees and Deputy Lieutenant, ſent unto the Lords and other Commiſſioners, by Giles Hung•rf•rd, William T•rre, Eſq George Barryfield, Prickman Gent.

The Propoſitions of the Committee and Deputy Lieutenants, in anſwer to the Meſſage ſent from the Lords and others His Majesties Commiſſioners at Wels, the fifth of Auguſt. 1642.

The Lords and others the Commiſſioners reply unto the Committees and Deputy Lieutenants Propoſitions.

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A SECOND LETTER Sent from John Aſhe Eſquire, a Member of the Houſe of Commons, to the Honourable VVilliam Lenthall, Eſquire, Speaker of the Houſe of Commons in Parliament. Concerning divers Meſſages, and paſſages between the Marqueſſe Hartford, Lord Pawlet, Lord Seymour, Lord Coventry, and others his Majeſties Commiſſioners: And the Deputy Lievtenants and other Commiſſioners for the County of Somerſet. Together with divers Propoſitions for peace, by the Commiſſioners and Deputy Lievtenants for that County. And the Lord Hartford, Lord Pawlet, Lord Seymour, and others Anſwer thereunto. Ordered by the Commons in Parliament that this be forthwith printed and publiſhed.

H. Elſyn. Cler. Parl. Dom. Com.

LONDON, Printed by A. N. for Ed. Husbands. and I. Franke, 1642. Auguſt 16.

A ſecond Letter ſent from Iohn Aſhe Eſquire, a Member of the Houſe of Commons, to the Honourable VVilliam Lenthall Eſquire, Speaker of the Houſe of Commons,

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SIR,

IN my laſt ſent you by Maſter Coombs you received, a full relation of all that was done by his Majeſties loyall Subjects, and the Parliaments moſt faithfull Friends and ſervants here in this part of the County of Somerſet, you ſh [...]ll now receive an account of what paſſed between your Committees and Deputie Lievtenants and the Lord Marqueſſe Hartford, the Lords and others his Majeſties Commiſſioners.

[Page] Upon Friday, the fifth of this inſtant Auguſt, about twelve of the clocke, there was ſent from the Lord Marqueſſe and the Commiſsioners unto your Committees and Deputy Lievtenants then in the field neere Chewton, Anthony Stocker, VVilliam Baſset, and Richard Brown, three Juſtices of the Peace, of this County, who went but that very morning to Wells, upon a Letter which they produced unto us ſent unto them from the Marqueſſe, wherein they were deſired to come unto Wells, to preſerve the peace of the Countrey. Theſe three Meſſengers told us that they had a Meſſage to deliver us from the Lord Marqueſſe, and the Commiſsioners which they were willing to bring unto us, becauſe (as they conceived) it did conduce to the peace of the Countrey, and thereupon delivered the meſſage in writing, a Coppie whereof is herewith ſent you, and at the ſame time they delivered us a Declaration, which the Lord Marqueſſe and the Commiſsioners had cauſed to be publiſhed for the ſatisfaction of the Countrey, in which is eſpecially ſet out thoſe ſeverall paſſages at Shepton Mallet upon Munday, the firſt of this moneth, the Declaration we do likewiſe ſend you, which when you have compared & examined with our relation formerly ſent you touching the ſame matter, you may then ſee the errours and miſtakes committed by the Commiſsioners contained in the ſaid Declaration. When your Committees and Deputy Lievtenants had peruſed this Declaration and Meſſage, for that Maſter Strode, Maſter Pyne, Maſter Rogers, and Maſter Francis were [Page] not come unto us, and ſome of them were principally concerned in that of Shepton Mallet, we thought fit to returne the Commiſsioners for the preſent this anſwer, which we here ſend you, promiſing them a more full anſwer the next day, by which time we did hope to enjoy the company, and have the adviſe and conſent of thoſe Gentlemen above-named, for wee expected them every houre, but they came not unto us at all. When your Committees and Deputy-Lievtenants had deliver'd unto the meſſengers their ſaid Anſwer. They the Meſſengers did propoſe that a courſe ſhould be taken, that the peace might be kept between us during this time, that the Commiſsioners were to expect our next Anſwer, and thereupon was added the laſt clauſe in this our firſt anſwer, upon this condition that they the three meſſengers ſhould engage that the like aſſurance ſhould be given us from the Lord Marqueſſe, and the other Commiſsioners, or elſe to receive timely advertiſement by them, whereby wee might have time to put our ſelves in ſome readineſſe for our ſafety and defence, which the Meſſengers conſenting unto they departed; And in the evening (by which time all our Companies were marched from Chewton unto a Hill above, and in view of the Towne of VVels) the ſame Meſſengers came againe unto us, and brought the Warrant for our ſafety under the Lord Marqueſſe, and ſome of the Commiſsioners hands, which writing we likewiſe doe herewithall ſend unto you. The next morning wee made ready our anſwer to their firſt Meſſage which was digeſted into propoſitions, and about ten of the clocke ſent the ſame into VVels by foure Gentlemen, Maſter Giles [Page]Hungerford, Maſter VVilliam Eyre, Maſter George Bompfield, the Maſter Prickman, who were attended by our Trumpetter, and ſo brought ſafe to the Lord Marqueſſe, and delivered him the Propoſitions, from whom they received this Anſwer, That the Anſwer and propoſitions were of a very high Concernment, and therefore his Lordſhip and the Commiſsioners did deſire time to conſider of them, but would give their reply by two of the clocke at the fartheſt, and ſend the ſame unto us by Meſſengers of their owne; The Meſlage and Propoſitions you ſhall receive herewithall.

After the Lords and Gentlemen had received theſe our Propoſitions, they then (as wee were informed) made ready all things for their departure, and haſtned away with ſpeed, yet to keepe the people in expectation whilſt they might with the more ſafety depart the Towne, They ſent us up to the Hill by three Gentlemen, Maſter Stocker, Maſter Seymour, and maſter Button an anſwer to our Propoſitions, but before their meſſengers came from them, all their Carriages were gone out of the Towne, and the Lords and Gentlemen ready to take horſe, the anſwer wee have herewith ſent unto you.

But by that time we had received, and read this their Lordſhips reply, there came Meſſengers unto us from the Major and Citizens of Wells, who aſſured us that the Lord Marqueſſe and all the company were gone, and had left the Towne, and therefore petitioned us, that the Sould [...]ers might not come down, nor attempt any thing againſt them. Upon which relation the Souldiers looking round the Countrey, they eſpied the Lord Marqueſſe and all the company marching away, [Page] and gone about three miles off, neere unto a Towne called Glaſsenbury, ſince which time we have received certaine intelligence from one that continued with them unto this very day; That they marched that night unto Somerton, a Towne neere unto Sir Iohn Fowells houſe, from which place went the Lord Paulet, and many other Gentlemen from the Marqueſſe unto their homes: The Lord Marqueſſe and thoſe that were left, ſtayed at Somerton untill Munday morning, and then left that Towne, and are gone and ſetled at Sherborne, as we are credibly informed. Sir Ralfe Hopton and Sir Francis Dodington with ſome others reſolving not to leave the Lord Marqueſſe, but to keepe under his protection, for that the whole Countrey doe take Sir Ralph Hopton for no better then a Rebell. There are reports that they intend to returne into this County againe to bee avenged for this affront: Very probable it is, that they goe about to get more ſtrength to come into this County or into Wiltſhire, for Shirborne is not farre diſtant from that part of Wilts, where the Lord Cottington, the Lord Arundell of Warder, the Lord Sturton, the Deane of Windſor, the Earle of Marlborow, Maſter Coventry, and Maſter Edward Seimour, neighbour altogether; And a ſtrong report hath beene theſe ten dayes, that they will very ſpeedily put their Cōmiſsion in execution about Sarum and Warminſter; Wherefore it is held moſt neceſſary, that both Counties ſtand upon their guard, and that thoſe Noble Earles of Bedford and Pembroke be haſtened away into the Country with ſuch Commanders, and other ſtrength as you ſhall thinke fit to ſupply us withall; Sir, we are loſt and ſpoyled, if we have not Commanders, [Page] for though the Countrie people be ſtout and reſolved, yet we are not able to maintaine the cauſe, and ſupport our courage, without expert men that can leade and adviſe us. We ſhall therefore comfort our ſelves with the ſpeedy expectation of their arrivall, and ſhall pray for your ſafeties as our own, which ſhall be the conſtant imployment of

Freſhford 8. Aug. 1642.

Your moſt humble and loving Servant, IOHN ASHE.

Sir, This Letter is written by the conſent and approbation of Sir Edward Hungerford, though he bee not preſent to ſubſcribe it, the other Committees and Deputies being buſily imployed in ſeverall parts of the County to make all ſafe if they can.

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The firſt Meſſage ſent from the Lord Marqueſſe of Hertford, and the Commiſſioners, by Mr. Stocker, Mr. Baſsit, and Mr. Brown.

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YOu are to ſignifie to thoſe whom you ſhall finde aſſembled, That my Lo: Marqueſſe Hertford, and the reſt of the Commiſſioners take notice of a great number of people gathered together from divers places in a warlike manner, with Arms, Ammunition, and Ordnance, contrary to the Laws of the Kingdom, and againſt the peace thereof; His Lordſhip therefore requires in His Majeſties name, and upon your Allegiance, that every man depart peaceably to his own home; which if they ſhall refuſe to do, and ſo be a means of the breach of the peace, and raiſing a war within this Kingdom, the evil which may come of it, muſt reſt upon their own heads; and that you may underſtand his Lordſhips inclination, and intentions to preſerve the peace, this Gentleman hath direction to deliver unto you a Declaration under his Lordſhips and the Commiſſioners hands, which they will obſerve in all points, unleſſe they ſhall be forced for their own defence to the contrary. And you are further to give them notice, that yeſterday ſome few horſe going out to open the paſſages hereabouts, which were ſtopped by armed [Page] men, and meeting many hundreds of men armed with Muſquets, Pikes, Bullets, Match lighted, marching; ſome of the Gentlemen that went out by my Lord Marqueſſes and the Commiſſioners appointment, ſent to them a deſire to treat; and thereupon three or four of them meeting with as many of the other, they deſired them to return their armed men, and ſome of them to come and ſpeak with my Lord Marqueſſe and the Commiſſioners, who would give them all juſt ſatisfaction: They took time to conſider of it, and at laſt returned anſwer, that they would come on, and make their way; and ſo marching, when they came within Muſquet ſhot they gave fire upon them, and ſo continued till they came within the reach of the Carabines, who then gave fire upon them alſo; by which means, the blood which was ſhed, muſt light on their own heads; for we deſire nothing but peace: Whereunto if you ſhall agree, and diſmiſſe your Aſſemblies, and advance no further, there will be an end of the Diſtractions of this Country, which God Almighty grant.

Hertford.

Paulet.

Seymour.

J. Coventry.

John Stowell.

Ferdinando Gorges.

Henry Berkley.

Ralph Hopton.

John Poulet.

Fran: Dodington.

Charls Berkley.

Francis Hawly.

Will: Walrond.

Tho: Smith.

Edw: Kirton.

Edmund Windham.

The Committees and Deputy Lieutenants firſt Anſwer to the Lords Commiſſioners Meſſage.

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THe Committee and Deputy Lieutenants are all deſirous of peace, and their coming hither is to preſerve the peace of this County, which they conceive hath been broken, ſince the repair of the Lords Commiſſioners, and the Cavaliers into this Country, to the other particulars of their Lordſhips Meſſage, which doth charge the ſaid Committees and Deputies with the breach of the peace, and ſome of them with unwarrantable and diſorderly behaviour at Shipton Mallet, whereof (they hope to make it appear) they are not guilty; as alſo, for the way propounded by their Lordſhips for the ſetling of this deſired peace, the ſame being of great conſequence, and many of the Committee not yet come, whoſe preſence is hourly expected, they deſire to reſpite untill to morrow, and then they will return a more full Anſwer unto their Lordſhips, and in the mean time they will take care that the peace ſhall not be broken by them.

Dated the 5th of Auguſt, 1642.

And ſubſcribed by Us,

Edw: Hungerford.

John Horner.

Alexander Popham.

Rich: Cole.

Robert Harlyn.

John Hipſley.

John Aſhe.

The ſecond Meſſage ſent from the Lo: Marqueſſe and the other Commiſſioners by Mr. Stocker, Mr. Baſsit, and Mr. Brown, upon the delivery of the Committees firſt Anſwer.

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WE the Kings Commiſſioners will not fail to keep the Peace till we hear your further Anſwer.

Hertford.

F. Seynour.

Jo. Poulet.

J. Coventry.

Edw: Berkley.

Charls Berkley.

The laſt Meſſage and Anſwer of the Committees and Deputy Lieutenant, ſent unto the Lords and other Commiſſioners, by Giles Hung [...]rf [...]rd, William T [...]rre, Eſq George Barryfield, Prickman Gent.

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The Propoſitions of the Committee and Deputy Lieutenants, in anſwer to the Meſſage ſent from the Lords and others His Majesties Commiſſioners at Wels, the fifth of Auguſt. 1642.

1. THat his Lordſhip would be pleaſed to preſent unto His Majeſtie, the humble Petition of this Countie, for the withdrawing the Commiſſion of Array, or any other Commiſſion in oppoſition to the Ordinance of the Militia.

2. That all the Troopers, Cavaliers, and other Souldiers now enterrained, and under his Lordſhips Command at Wels, be forthwith diſarmed, disbanded, and caſhierd, and their Arms be put in ſaſe cuſtody untill ſome further courſe be taken therewith by the King or both Houſes of Parliament.

3. That thoſe Gentlemen of the Houſe of Commons, and others which have been the principall Incendiaries and Authors of this combuſtion, (now with his Lordſhip) may be ſent to the Parliament, to anſwer their delinquency.

4. That all the Arms which have been ſeiz'd, and taken away from ſeverall men, and out of ſeverall [Page] mens houſes, by vertue of any Commiſſion granted to his Lordſhip, and the other Commiſſioners, be forthwith reſtored to the owners, and ſatisfaction made to ſuch as have receiv'd any dammage by the Souldiers and Cavaliers, ſince the coming of the ſaid Commiſſioners.

5. That ſuch Gentlemen and others as have been taken, and kept as priſoners, may be forthwith diſcharged.

Theſe we offer to their Lordſhips, and other His Majeſties Commiſſioners, as moſt conducing to the peace of this Countie, and the whole Kingdom, and unleſſe they be forthwith yeelded unto, we do much doubt whither it will be in our power to keep the Souldiers from aſſaulting the Town.

The People in generall being apprehenſive of, and much incenſed by the late accidents, occaſioned ſince the bringing of theſe Commiſſions into this Countie, by ſeizing of Arms, maiming ſome, and murdering others, the report whereof, hath ſpread far and nigh, and hath brought many hither out of their Counties to reſcue this from their miſeries, leaſt the ſame Evills fall upon themſelves afterwards.

August the 6th, 1642. And ſubſcribed by Us.

Edw: Hungerford.

John Horner.

Alexander Popham.

Rich. Cole.

Robert Harbyn.

John Hipſley.

John Aſhe.

The Lords and others the Commiſſioners reply unto the Committees and Deputy Lieutenants Propoſitions.

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1. TO the firſt Propoſition, it is in your power to offer what Petition you pleaſe to His Maieſtie, for withdrawing the Commiſſion of Array, or any other; And if you deſire to have the Execution of the Commiſſion of Array to be forborn, in the meane time his Lordſhip and the Commiſſioners of this Countie, will be contented for the peace of this Countie, to forbear the Execution thereof, ſo as you forbear the Ordinance for the Militia.

2. To the ſecond, his Lordſhip hath no Souldiers entertained in pay, but thoſe of the Trained Bands, and ſome Voluntiers which he will disband, if you will do the like; And where there are with us two Troops of horſe raiſed by His Majeſtie, we muſt leave them to His Majeſties diſpoſall, but if you deſire to have them removed from thence, we will yeeld unto it.

3. To the third, we know of no Incendiaries or Authors of combuſtion amongſt us; and did not expect that in a Treatie of Pacification, ſuch falſe and ſcandalous Termes ſhould be uſed.

4. To the fourth, we know of no Arms or goods taken, and if any ſhall hereafter appear to us, we will [Page] cauſe reſtitution to be made, if you will do the like.

5. To the fifth, we have delivered (before the making of the Propoſitions) ſuch priſoners as were with us.

This we return in Anſwer to yours.

Edw. Rodney.

Edw. Berkley.

Francis Dodington.

Edw. Kirton.

Hertford.

Francis Seymour.

Paulet.

John Coventry.

Henry Berkley.

Edmond Windham.

Copia vera.

FINIS.

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A second letter sent from John Ashe Esquire, a Member of the House of Commons, to the Honourable VVilliam Lenthall, Esquire, Speaker of the House of Commons in Parliment. Concerning divers messages, and passages between the Marquesse Hartford, Lord Pawlet, Lord Seymour, Lord Coventry, and others his Majesties commissioners: and the deputy lievtenants and other commissioners for the county of Somerset. Together with divers propositions for peace, by the commissioners and deputy lievtenants for that county. And the Lord Hartford, Lord Pawlet, Lord Seymour, and others answer thereunto. Ordered by the Commons in Parliament that this be forthwith printed and published. H. Elsyn. Cler. Parl. Dom. Com.

Ashe, John, Esquire.

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— A second letter sent from John Ashe Esquire, a Member of the House of Commons, to the Honourable VVilliam Lenthall, Esquire, Speaker of the House of Commons in Parliment. Concerning divers messages, and passages between the Marquesse Hartford, Lord Pawlet, Lord Seymour, Lord Coventry, and others his Majesties commissioners: and the deputy lievtenants and other commissioners for the county of Somerset. Together with divers propositions for peace, by the commissioners and deputy lievtenants for that county. And the Lord Hartford, Lord Pawlet, Lord Seymour, and others answer thereunto. Ordered by the Commons in Parliament that this be forthwith printed and published. H. Elsyn. Cler. Parl. Dom. Com., Ashe, John, Esquire., Somerset, William Seymour, Duke of, 1588-1660., Winchester, John Paulet, Earl of, 1598-1675., England and Wales. Parliament..

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