ROwland Owen saith, that Mr. Reymer about Six Years since, being the Duke of Norfolks Butler, ordered him to carry the things out, the Lodgings being open, he saw Mr. Germain in Bed with the Dutchess of Norfolk; the Dutchess leapt out of the Bed, and put on a Morning Gown, and German hid himself in Bed, this was between five and six of the Clock in the Evening, about a fortnight before Bartholomew-Day; he did not tell the Duke, he is sure it was Germaine, he saw him often, twice or thrice a day, the out­ward door of the Lodg­ings were shut, but he o­pened it with a Key he had.

[Page 2] MArgaret Ellwood saith, she had a Company to see the Lodgings at Windsor, in the first Year of King James, about three or four of the Clock in the After­noon, a Woman told her my Lady was not there, but she opening the door, saw my Lady upon the Stools in an ill Posture, Mr. Germaine's Breeches were down, he pulled them up, and laid his hand on his Sword, saying, God Damn you for a Whore, how have you the Impu­dence to come here? my Lady bid him kick me down, he scattered some concerns, that is, Mans Nature on the Boards. She saw no Nakedness but her Knee, or a little above; another time after, she found Germaine's Hand­kerchief and Ruffles in my Ladies Bed; my Ladies Woman said, there was Germain's Name upon them. Another time she saw Mr. Cornwall let Mr. Germaine out of my Ladies Closet; She saw Germains Leggs within hers when she came the first time into the Room, and his Breeches were about his heels: The first time was in Bartholomew-Fair time, Mrs. Knifton told her, it was Germains Linnen.

THOMAS Hudson saith, That the Duke of Norfolk being at Portsmouth, he was Butler at Windsor, when Germaine, the Dut­chess, and Cornwall went to Play, Germaine sent his Footman for clean Linnen, which he brought next Morning. Mrs. Gwyn said to the Dutchess, the Dogg would have layn with me, but she would not lye with the Dogg where the Deer lay'd, for she knew my [Page 9] Lady Dutchess would ac­cept of him; after that, he saw a Shirt and Waste­coat in the Closet, which my Ladies Woman, and Ann Burton took away. My Lord being absent, we murmured amongst our Selves, that my Lord was wrong'd, I told my Lord, whereupon my Ma­ster Cragg had me to Lord Peterborough's Lodgings, and threatned me, that he would prefer me to his Brother Richards, who turned me off in Germany; this was he thinks in De­cember or September, 1685 Mrs. Gwyn spoke this in the Green-Room, and he was in a Closet hard by, and the Door open, and so heard it.

ANN Burton saith, She was Servant to the Duke and Dutchess of Norfolk, when the Duke was gone to Portsmouth, she was at Windsor; and my Lady went to London with Ger­maine, when my Lady came home, after Supper, she was in great haste to go to Bed, when she was Undrest, she said she would Lock us out, because she would not be disturbed before Eleven a Clock the next Morning, though the King or Queen should come: Hudson told her, Germaine was still in the House, whereupon we laid Chairs on the Back-stairs, that we might hear him if he came down; the Chairs were not removed next Morning, when Ger­mains Man came with the Linnen, he said, his Master was there. My Lady or­dered a Fire to be made in my Lords Room, where, when she was come, Mrs. Nelly Gwynn came in, and asked her, how she liked her Nights Rest, and being [Page 10] asked for Germaine, she said, she knew nothing of him. My Lady complain­ing of her Hair being out of Order, Nelly answered, it was a hot Night with her, enough to put her Hair out of Powder and Curl too: Presently after Cornwell came in and ask'd for Germaine, and my Lady saying, she knew nothing of him, Nelly Gwynn said, I question not but he will come out by and by like a drowned Ratt; with that whilst I was cleaning the Dining Room, Mrs. Kifton called me, and shewed me in the Closet, Germaines Shirt and Wastcoat; and afterwards, making my Ladies Bed, saw there were two Prints had laid, the Shirt and Wastcoat were sent by the Duke to the Lord Peterboroug, she saith she is a single Woman, and was never Marryed, this was about Bartholomew-Tide about six Years since, she supposes the Bed was stained both by a Man and Woman.

SImon Varelst saith, that he was at Wind­sor to draw the Dut­chess of Norfolks Picture about six Years since, and had the Dukes Closet to put his Pictures in; when he had done, and had been at home two or three days, German came to him much concerned, and said, you can do the Dutchess an extraordinary kindness, & will oblige the Lord and Lady Peterborough in the highest degree; then he shewed me a Letter from the Dutchess to me, and read it to me, before that he told me there was a Shirt and Waiscoat, and they are known to be his. He said, I desire you to save the Dutchess Honour, I desire that you will be so [Page 11] much a Gentleman, as to own them to be yours, and that you left them there. I answered, I was much concerned there should be such a trouble, but I desired to be excused, I could not do it without prejudice. He told me, the Lord and Lady Peter­borough had discoursed the Duke of Norfolk upon it, and if it were but my Linnen, their discourse had wrought so much on him, that if there came but any Evidence to assist them, he would leave off the Pursuit: I refusing still, he offered me a Purse of Gold, and told me, I should have my Fortune by it, but I still refusing Mr. Germaine, he went away very much discontented, my own Wife being in the next Room, over-heard the discourse between Ger­maine and me, and told it, and spoke of it, else I had not been here now.

THOMAS Foster saith, that he was Coachman to Mr. Germaine, and carried the Dutchess of Norfolk often, about two Years since in his Coach, and brought her home, and the Footmen have had four Half-Crowns given them, and Martin a Dutchman his helper, called it Hush-Money. It was by Night against a Light, that he saw her Face in the Coach, it was about Seven or Eight of the Clock at Night, about this Time a Year he hath seen her Face once in the Day-time, she looking out of a Sash-Win­dow two Stories high in Germain's House in Park-Street, he knows her Face well enough; he hath seen her before, and since she was Married.

[Page 12] EDieth Sawbridge saith, that the Tues­day following, this unhappy Discourse con­cerning the Dutchess of Norfolk, Mrs. Sturton came into her Chamber, and she telling her what had happened at Windsor, Mrs. Sturton replied, this was nothing but what she expected before now; the Witness replied, that if she the Witness had been as near the Dutchess as the said Mrs. Sturton, she would have prevented all this, to which Mrs. Stur­ton said, would you have had me whipt at the Carts-Arss; The Discourse we had, was, that Mrs. Knif­ton told her, when I came from London, on Fryday Night, that she told me she was glad I was come, for she expected her Throat to be cut every Night since my Lord Duke went to Fortsmouth, I askt her the Reason of her Fear, she answered, Germain had said with my Lady Dutchess ever since my Lord Duke went to Portsmouth, that when he came Home, he would hear of it, and he would kick her for a Bawd; and if she should tell my Lord, Germain would cut her Throat: I bid her have a Care what she said, for these were dangerous Words, how can you prove this, she said, it was very true, the Witness as­king her (Mrs. Knifton) how she knew this, she said, Germain instead of going Home, went into the Closet; The Witness cannot say that she said all this to Mrs. Sturton, but the greatest Part she did say; Mrs. Sturton said, this was nothing but what she expected before, this was the Tuesday after my Lord Duke came from Ports­mouth; This was about Bartholomew-Tide, in the First Year of King James's Reign.

ALexander Herman, saith, that he served Mr. Germaine, he hath left his service a year and a half, about eight Weeks after he came from Ireland with the King; He served him a Year and a half, Mr. Germaine was in Ireland with the King, in the Summer, in the Year 1690. He went to Ireland two days before the King that Summer, he con­tinued there Four Months, he believes he went the last of May, or the last of June; He came back with the King, he the Witness served him all that time in Ireland, and saw him every hour and every day, and never stirred from him from Ireland he came in the same Ship with the Lord Villiers the Earl of Manchester and Mr. Felton, and he went to Ireland in the Monmouth Yatch with the Envoys of Hol­land and Brandenburgh, and the Marquess Mampevillion; He saith, Mr. Germain was at Brussels in Flanders in May last, he saw him there, and speak with him there, he saw the Lord Villiers and the Lord Lumley there with him, he Lodged with him in the same Tavern, there with him for four days, and saw him not after; He the Witness com­ing then for England left him there; He never k [...]ew him wear his own Hair, his own Hair is dark Brown, he ne­ver knew him appear abroad without a Wigg, his Hair is about half a Finger long, he wore a Fair Wigg, he saith, he the Witness was Quartered in a place behind him in Ireland, he could not stirr but he heard him; he saith, that Four Weeks after he saw him in Brussels, he saw him walking in St. James's Park▪

[Page 18] ANthony Moore saith, he was Barbar to Mr. Germaine, the first time he shawed him was five or six Years since, his own Hair is Brown, he shaved his head very often, he shaved him before he went to Hol­land, and since he came home, he never saw his Hair long enough to cover his Ears, nor saw him ever wear his own Hair but a Periwigg, he shaved him for a Year and a half before, and since he went for Ireland, he shaved him al­ways at his house near the Park, he or his man shaved him ever since he came from Holland to this day, he or his man shaved him the night before the King went for Hol­land; he saith, that Mr. Ger­maine when he went away, said it would be a Month or two before he should come back, but he knew not how long it was. This was at his house next door to the Cock­pitt, he shaved him Yearly since the King came into Eng­land, he saith, the Campaigne was almost done when he first shaved him after he came from Flanders.

GRace Cook says, that she knows Jane Wads­worth, she hath lived near her Four Years, she came into the Witnesses house with a paper in her hand, and ask't her who left it, saying, she knew nothing of it; She said, that she had said, that she had seen the Dutchess of Norfolk in Master Germaines House, but she had not seen her a great while, and now that she had seen her, she was satisfied that it was not her, and she wish't that she might burn in the Fire, and never go home to her Children, if she would take her Oath of it: The Paper was to warn her to this house, it was the first night that the Papers came out that she said this, Hosea Grimes, John Hall and Mar­garet, were present when she said this, she saith, she lives next door but one to Jane Wadsworth.

[Page 19] JOhn Hall saith, that he hath known Jane Wads­worth above a year, about a Fortnight since she came into Mrs. Cooks with an Order in her hand, but knew not who left it, and said she could say nothing to it, Mrs. Cook saying again, you must say something to it, else you had not had this Order from the House; then she said she had been at the Duke of Norfolks and had told the Duke that she had chanced to go into Captain Germanies for a Pint Pott, and she said she chanced to see the Dutchess of Nor­folk, but she said she might be mistaken, for she had not seen her in seven Years before, but she had seen her once or twice since she came from France, and that was none of the Dutchess of Norfolk which she saw in Captain Germanies Stairs, whereupon Hosea Grimsley asking her if she was sure it was not she, she said she was sure it was not she, wishing that she might Burn and never go home to her Children if she would Swear it, for she could not swear it. Hosea Grimsley, Grace Cook, and two other women were present in Grace Cooks house when this dis­course happened, which was the very night the Order came out, he saith, he wrought in Mr. Germanies house, he saw twice or thrice Ladies there in Masks, one of the Ladies in the Mask gave Or­ders to take down a partition, she was reported to be Cap­tain Germanes Sister.

MArgaret Coney saith, that she knows Jane Wadswort [...] ▪ who come into Mrs. Cooks the first time she was Subpena'd, and asked her who left the Paper in her hand for her, she went to Mr. Germain [...]s for a Pott, she thought she saw the Dutchess of Norfolk there, but she saw her since her coming from France, and she was well satisfied it was not her, and wished she might neversee her Children, and Burn if ever she saw her there.

[Page 20] ALexander Herman saith, that he know­eth Jane Wadsworth well, he never had any Dis­course with her concerning the Dutchess of Norfolks, be­ing in Mr. Germaines house, he saith, he hath drunk often at Wadworths house, but he never had any Discourse with her concerning the Dutchess of Norfolk, nor ne­ver saw this Woman in his Masters house in all his life, he waited on his Master at Table, and in his Chamber all the time of his service, which was a Year and a half, he never saw a Lady in a Mask in his Masters house.

MAry Pennington saith that she knows Jane Wadsworth, she was her Servant, but not long, for she was not honest, she the Witness being gone out, at her return, she met her going away with her the Witnesses Linnen and her Husbands Bundled up, this was about a 11 Years since.

FRances Knight saith, that she knoweth not Jane Wadsworth, nor never Discoursed with her, nor never saw her at Master Germaines house, nor did the Witness ever carry any Letters thither.

JVdith Stourton saith, that she was Servant to the Dutchess of Norfolk when the Report was of the Dutch­ess and Mr. Germain, which was about a week before the Duke and Dutchess went to France, she was asked by the Lord Peterborough in the presence of the Duke of Nor­folk in the Dukes house in St. James's Square (where they shut the Door) as she would answer it before Almigh­ty God, if she did not know whether his Daughter was an Adulteress? Her answer was, as she hoped to see God in Heaven, the Dutchess was as Vertuous as any woman alive, for ought I know, she saith, that what she then said is true, and if she should [Page 21] pretend to say any other, she should wrong her self, she saith, that no one was pre­sent beside the Lord Peter­borough and the Duke, when they Examined her, and that she saw no Shirt or VVast­coat at that time, and that she doth not Remember that she said to Mrs. Webb any thing concerning the Dut­chess and Mr. Germaine, and thinks she never spoke with Mrs. Webb, and she was not at Windsor when the Duke was at Portsmouth, she saith, there was a Report of Scan­dalls which she was sorry for.

ELizabeth Camell saith, that she went with the Duke and Dut­chess of Norfolk into France, they went together very lovingly, and parted so, she thinks the Duke staid with her about a fortnight, the Dukes Eye was ill, and my Lady went often to him, and when she did so we retired, my Lady dressed his Eye, they Eat and Drank toge­ther every day, they did not Lodge together that she knows: My Lord told her at parting at the Grate in the Monastery, that he would fetch her away suddenly, and they parted kindly, Mrs. Lawson was in the Monastery with the Dutchess; The Witness continued there a­bout 13 Months, my Lord Expressed a great deal of kindness to my Lady in go­ing, and while he was there, there were Tears on both sides at parting; when my Lord and Lady were toge­ther in the house called, Lo­ten de Tarran at Paris, we used to withdraw, not knowing what they had to say toge­ther.

MAtthew Scot saith, that he hath paid several Sums to the Dutchess from the Duke in May 88, he paid 125 l. for the Dutchess to Mr. Cray, he paid 2 or 300 l. into France when the Duke and Dut­chess was there, he cannot say he remitted any Money [Page 22] into France after the Duke came home, he knows not that any Money was paid to Mr. Morton for my Lady by the Dukes Order.

MRs. Judith Stourton (Examined be­fore on the Dut­chess behalf) saith that she saw Mrs. Sawbridge once in the Dukes house in St. James's Square, and they talk of the Scandal of Mr. Germain and the Dutchess of Norfolk; She saith, she the Witness never heard Mrs. Sawbridge say that Mrs. Knifton should say, that Mr. Germain laid with the Dutchess every night at Wind­sor, she denys that she said to Mrs. Sawbridge that she expected to hear of that be­fore now, she never said to Mrs. Sawbridge, would you have had me whipt at the Carts Arse, she saith, she re­members not that Mrs. Saw­bridge told her that Mrs. Knifton said, that she was afraid that her Throat would have been cut when the Duke was at Portsmouth, she Re­members not that she askt Mrs. Sawbridge the Reason of Mrs. Kniftons fear, or that she told her any thing of Mrs. Kniftons saying, that Mr. Ger­main laid with my Lady e­very night at Windsor, she saw Mrs. Sawbridge and Dis­coursed with her, but she connot say what Discouse she had with her.