I Have received a Paper, subscribed by Aeneas M. Gillmury and Mauritius Bern, who call themselves Students of Arts, and both Professors of the Apostolical, and Roman Catholique Church; which is a pretended Answer to John Stubbs, and James Lancaster, their Quaeries and Challenges, they sent to the Papists, and the Pope, and his Cardinals and Jesuits, &c.

But all people may see that this is not an Answer, but instead of answering, they beg the Question; and fall a railing, and sometimes Daub and Flatter, thinking by their daubing and flattering to put out the Eyes of their simple deluded people. And these two Papists seem to be much grieved, because our Challenge is directed to the Pope, and his Cardinals, and Jesuits: They find fault with our Long-windedness, or sounding a Trumpet as a Horn; which well we may do, to alarum the Pope, his Jesuits, and Cardinals: For we must tell them, that we have the Breath of the Almighty (which will reach to Rome) by which we come to be living Souls.

And did not the Jesuits and Priests say in Ireland, that they had no License from the Pope to answer us; and now we have alarum'd the Pope, and Cardinals, and Friars, and Jesuits; it is well that he doth confess this is Long-windedness, over their muddy breath.

And now they tell us, that they can answer at Home, and that we need not send to the Pope; but no Answer to our Challenge, as the Reader of our Challenge and this Paper, may see that their Mouths are stopt, and that they cannot maintain their own corrupt Princi­ple, nor seditious Sect.

And as for your saying, that you are both Professors of the Roman-Catholique Church, this is false; for the Roman-Catholique Church, [Page 4]as it was in the Apostles dayes, you are degenerated from, and are come to be a Seditious Sect, and do spread your Heretical Opinions from your Heresies, which you have at Rome; and are a Schism and Schismatical, rent from the Catholique Church of Rome, as it was in the Apostles Dayes (for Catholique we do understand is Ʋniversal) and are erred from that Universal Power, and Faith, and Gospel, and Spirit, that the Apostles were in, you are erred from; as easie is to be proved.

1st, You the Church of Rome are a Seditious Sect, with all her company; and you are found in Herod, a Persecutor; you are found in Nebuchadnezar, a Burner, by your Fires; you are found in Judas, with your Swords and Staves against the Just; you are found in Cain, with your Envy against the second Birth Abel; you are found in Ish­mael, Scoffing at Isaac; you are found to be the Beast and the Whore drinking of the Blood of the Saints, that receive not your Mark; So Killing, Burning, Hanging, Racking, Torturing, and Imprisoning; this hath been the work of the Church of Rome, who is a Seditious Sect, who are the Traytors, Heady, High-minded, Self-willed, Lo­vers of Pleasures more then Lovers of God: For look upon your proud Prelates, Cardinals, Jesuits, Pope, with all his gorgious Robes, these are the Wicked Arts, which you have invented, and are Masters of: So its clear, that all these Works be the Works of the flesh, and of the Devil, that bloody wicked Persecutor, and not of the Birth born of the Spirit.

2dly, So I say, Here it's clear you are a Seditious Sect, erred from the Faith that works by Love; for if you were in that Catholique Faith, which belongs to the Catholique Church, which is universal, you would not tell People of a Purgatory when they are dead, for which you have no Scripture; we Challenge you to bring a Scripture for it, out of your own Bibles, or Protestants either. And so it is clear here by the second Proof, you are erred from the Faith that works by Love, that purifies the heart, that gives Victory and Access to God, by which Faith men please God, which is the Fai [...]h of Gods Elect; from this Faith, which is Catholique, from which the Church of Rome, with his Company are erred, and are found in the Enmity, Madness, Folly, and Persecution, who are Synagogues of Satan, that Murderer, whose works ye have done, and are void of the Faith that works by [Page 5]love, and purifies the heart; therefore you must have a Purgatery as you say.

3dly, You are a Seditious Sect; for you have transgressed the Command of Christ Jesus, who saith, Love one another, Love Ene­mies; and if any go from you, you will hate them, you will kill them; and if others will not joyn to you, you will burn them and destroy them; this is the work of a seditious Sect, and Hammon like, that informed against the Jews, that did not follow the National way; and like those that informed against Daniel: And so it is clear that you are a seditious Sect, erred from the Command of Christ Jesus, and cast it behind your Backs.

4thly, You are a Company of Lyars, and a Seditious Sect; for how can you love God, whom you never see, and hate your Brethren, whom you see daily?

5thly, You are in the death of old Adam, and in the power of death the Serpent, who love not your Brother; he that hateth his Bro­ther abideth in Death.

6thly, You are a Seditious Sect; for you have persecuted people about Meats, Drinks, Cloths, and outward Crosses, your Crucifixes, your Bread, and Wine, and Holy-dayes, your eating of Flesh, and Fish, and Marriages, which the Kingdom of God stands not in; not Meats, nor Drinks, nor Dayes; but in Righteousness, in Peace, and Joy in the Holy Ghost; and so out of the Power of God, our of this Righ­teousness, are you all a sedititiou [...] Sect, and are found in those things the Kingdom of God stands not in, and Persecuting and Murdering such as will not observe your wills: like to the Beast spoken of in the Revelation, that with his Paw would pluck all under him; and like the Dragon, his Wrath is found in you against the true Woman, the Church; and they that have followed your Worship, have follow­ed the Dragons worship, and the Beast, and have not followed Christ Jesus, nor the true Cath lique Church.

7thly, You are a Seditious Sect, that teach the Doctrine of Devils forbidding Meats, and to Marry, 1 Tim. 4. which the Spirit did say expresly should come in the last times; who speak Lyes in Hypocrisie, having you Consciences seared, as with a hot-Iron, that you a [...]e hardned in your Wickedness, Seducing Spirits, Doctrine of Devils: For Moses was a Priest, and Aaron was a Priest, and were Married; and the Prophets and Apostles had Wives; and Marriage was Go [...]s [Page 6]Ordinance; and Christ established it in the new Covenant, wherein he saith, Whom God joynes together let no man put assunder: So here it is clear, Christ the High-Priest, made higher then the Heavens, con­firms Gods Work, which is Marriage, being his joyning; and there­fore do not you give liberty to Brothel-Houses, and Baudy-Houses, and Uncleanness? And then you have need of a Purgatory.

8thly; You are a Seditious Sect; for you have erred from the Cross of Christ, which is the Power of God, and therefore have you set up Wooden Crosses, and Stone, and Brass, and Silver, and Gold: And how many Hundred Years after Christ were those outward Crosses invented? And where did ever Paul, or Peter, or any of the Apostles set up a Wooden Cross? And speak if you dare: Let us see your Antiquity: And how many Hundred Years after Christ, got up that Seditious Sect, forbidding Priests to Marry, and setting up pla­ces to put Women in, and vowed them, and swore them to Chastity? And how many Hundred Years after Christ was it before they made a God, and a Christ, of Bread and Wine? Come out of your Holes and Dens, and answer us in the Light, if you dare? And try your God and your Christ, that you have made of Bread and Wine: See if you will be as Bold as Baals Priests; for they tryed their god before the Prophet: Come, let us see what this seditious Sect can do with all their Arts; Can you make him Speak? Is he a Living God, that will not be found Asleep? And will not your Gods grow Corrupt, and Mouldy? And is it not a Work of mans hands, which you call people to Worship? Yea, your Fists of Wickedness, and Bloody Hands, which have been embrued and washed in the Blood of the In­nocent; with those hands have you not made your God, and Christ, of your Bread and Wine? And therefore I say, come out and try them, & we will have a Bottle of Wine, and a Loaf of Bread, and it shall be cut in two pieces, and the Wine in two Basons; and let the Pope, and his Cardinals, and Friars, and Munks, with all their Bloody Fists make a God of part of the Wine, and part of the Bread, and when they have done, we will set them in a Cellar with part of the Wine and part of the Bread, which is not consecrated, and we shall try quickly whether their God will not Mould, and their Christ will not Dye, that is consecrated; and their consecrated Wine grow sower and dye: Come, shuffle us not off; for we will have them locked up in a Cel­lar with six or seven Locks, and have a Watch on our side, and ano­ther [Page 7]on yours, and try if your God and your Christ, that is made of Bread and Wine do not Corrupt, and do not grow Mouldy; and your Wine doth not grow Sower and Dye; then we will all turn to you, and say, that you have made a God and Christ by your Art; and then if your God and your Christ, you have made of your Bread and Wine▪ do grow Mouldy, and the Wine Dye and Sower; your Bread Mouldy that you have consecrated, you shall all turn to us, and acknowledge your selves to be a seditious Sect, that have been Deceivers of the peo­ple this thousand Years. We do challenge you, & dare you, the Pope, & his Cardinals, and Jesuits, to come forth, and try, and bring your God out; all you God-Makers, and Christ-Makers of the Popes Crue and Company, the Lord calls for you to come out of your Holts, who have been a company of Blood-thirsty men, who have mingled your invented and idolatrous Sacrifices with the Blood of the Innocent, Pilate like; a seditious Sect, erred from the words of God, and from Christ Jesus the Head of the Church; and therefore you have inven­ted a Head, a counterfeit Head of your own making, which is not a Catholick Head, but a Seditious Head, full of Sedition, which fills the Body to the brim; you are full of Hypocrisie to the very brim; and full of Envy and Blood-thirstiness to the brim; and full of Murder to the very brim; your Actions, your Doings, your Works, your Fruits speak it, and declare it to all Nations about you. But Christ Jesus, he is the Head, the Cathelique Head, the Universal Head; the Catholique Church is Living Members made, and of Living Stones a spiritual Houshold sanctified by him, and washed, and purged, and cleansed by the Living Head, Christ Jesus, who is the same to day, yesterday, and forever.

9thly, You are a Seditious Sect; as erred from the Power, from the Spirit of the Apostles, and Christ Jesus; and from the Righte­ousness, the fine Linnen, which is the Righteousnes, of the Saints, and of Christ Jesus; and therefore you have set up your Surplices, and your white Coats, who have lost your fine Linnen, which is the Righteousness of Christ Jesus, and are more like Actors of Stage-Plays, and M [...]un [...]ebancks, (then Preachers of the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ [...]n all your Fools-Coats, and the Pope and his Cardinals Fools­caps, Keys, and Crowns: Where do you read in the Scripture, or new Testament, of Master Paul, or Mr. Peter, or Mr. Timothy, or Mr. Titus, or Mr. Matthew, or Luke, &c. or my Lord Timothy, or my Lord [Page 8] Titus, or Peter, or my Lord Bishops; we challenge you to make this good out of your own Scripture; let us see some proof for your Ambi­tion, and Pride, who are puft up with Titles, and take the Titles that belong to God Almighty to your selves, contrary to Elihu, who said, If I give flattering Titles to men my Maker would not regard me; and con­trary to Christ Jesus, and in despite of Christ Jesus, who saith, You have one Master, and you are his Brethren. It is very clear that you are a Sediti­ous Sect and Schism, and are rent from the Body and the Head both; and therefore you are a Seditious Body: It is you which make so ma­ny heads and christs, and then say, Lo christ is here, and lo he is there; and your Seditious people run to christ-Makers, and god-Makers, or your idol-Makers. Indeed the Heathen Priests made gods, which were no Gods; and therefore in Spain, and France, and Rome, and Ireland, and Portugal, and other places, how many gods have you. And how many christs have you made in all these parts, and christ-makers? And then he is here, and there, Lo here, and Lo there, Antichrist against Christ: We know that the Devil will rage at this: And how much Blood have you shed (number up the Per­sons) because they will not eat your gods, and your christs, that you have made, and Worship it? And is not this worse then the Hea­then? Did the Heathen eat their gods when they had made them? So it is clear, that you are erred from the Catholique Cross, which is the Power of God; from the Catholique Faith, that works by Love; from the Catholique Head, Christ Jesus: from the Catholique Church, the Body of Christ Jesus; and cannot maintain your rudiments, nor your christ that you have made, to the Apostles days; for did they set up any such thing? Your doctrine concerning Purgatory, Meats, Drinks, Holy-dayes, Lent, nor your Cloths; nor your Bell Book and Candle; nor your Popes Head of the Church; none of these things can you maintain; nor your Persecuting about Religion, nor your Mass-mongrey-Stuff, nor your several Orders, nor your Triple-Crowns, nor your Nunneries, nor your Crucifixes, nor your forbidding to Marry, not your Schools of Arts to make Ministers; none of all these things can you make good, that they were acted or practised by the Apostles, or that they did persecute any people about outward things.

10thly, You are a Seditious Sect, and have left the Commands of Christ Jesus, who saith, Freely you have received, and Freely give, there­fore [Page 9]you who have set up both Easter-Reckonings, and Midsummer-Dues, and Tythes, are a Sect that serve your selves, and not Christ Je­sus; that mind Earthly things, and are Enemies to the Cross of Christ; and are gone in the way of Cain, to Envy; Gainsaying, Carah, against the true Church, and its practice, and run after the Error of Balaam for Gifts and Rewards, the Wages of Unrighteousness, Unrighteous Wages; and like to Flimas the Sorcerer; who seek to turn People from the Catholique Faith, that works by Love, whose Eyes are blind, groping up and down in your Rudiments, and among your Idols, and Inventions of your Fore-fathers, who erred from the true Church: And as for the Pelagian-Heresie, look at home, you Papists: and as for the Arians, you may look at home; for we are none of that spirit: Whereas thou givest us a Catalogue of some that did succeed Peter at Rome, or Paul; but thou doest not tell us of Pope Jone, and make a Catalogue of her that had a Bastard; nor thou dost not tell us of the Bishop of Rome, whom thou callest Pope, that sacrificed to the Heathen gods, and denied Christ: What will you say that these were Rebellious Actions? And thou dost not tell us of Boniface the third, set up by Phocas, that murdered his Master Mauritius about six hun­dred years after Christ, then began your firs [...] general Pope: and you may say, if you should do so, Satan would be divided against Satan, and so could not stand. You are far from giving freely, who have set up so many Glebe-land, and Tythes, and I aster-reckonings, and fat Parsonages, that you might live in the Glory of the World, not like a suffering Seed, but that you are Enemies to the suffering Seed.

11thly, You are a Seditious Sect, you have cast the Royal Law of God behind your backs, which teacheth to do unto others as you would others should do unto you; for would you have others to Burn you, to Hang you, to Imprison you, because that you do not conform to their Way or Religion: Would you have the Turks, and Tartars, and Protestants, and Jews, to Rack and Torture, and make Inquisiti­ans for you, and Burn you, and Hang you, because that you do not conform to their Religion, Blind the Royal Law of God, To do to others as you would have them to do unto you: Speak plainly if you can or date; or is Ishmael that S [...]ff [...]r, Cain the first Persecutor of his Bro­ther, Nebuchadnezar, and Hammon, and the Murdering Jews and the Devil, the Dragon, become Christians? Are not you sound in this na­ture to the brim? And was this divine? Cain was a mighty man in [Page 10]Arts, as high as you; and so was Nimrod in his Building, but God confounded him, and his Works, and so he will do yours; it is all under the Chain together, with the Workmen: And are not you more like to the proud Pharisees, with their long Robes, that love to be called of men Master, and the Gentiles Gratious Lords, who lo­ved the Praise of men, and Honour one of another; a Mark of no Believer: Is not this Ti [...]le, and these things, forbidden by Christ Je­sus? See John 5. But I must tell you, in your Catalogue you say that many did succeed Peter: Where do you read, that in all his time he was called Gratious Lord, or Pope; or that Timothy, or Titus, or any other, that he was set up above another, by the Apostles: Did not Paul reprove Peter for some things: This makes nothing for the Pope (the Catalogue you have brought) neither doth it suit the matter; for your whole Church, as you call it, together with your Head the Pope, is judged by Christ, and the Apostles, and the pri­mitive Church; and therefore because that you have lost the Key of David, and Tongue of the Learned, the Pope must have the outward Key, and you must have the Tongues that begin at Babel, which your Brother Pilate set on the top of Christ when he Crucified him; and therefore must studdy Arts, and so Tubal Cain; and this proves you a Seditious Sect, and have lost the Crown of Life, and therefore he must set up 3. Crowns on his head, a Triple-crown; this becomes the old Fool, that is erred from the Spirit that maketh wise, and gives un­derstanding he is far short of them that said, An outward Crown did not become a Preacher of the Gospel: Let him look the History, and see if he can sind such a one in the Church-History, before the Pope was: But his Head must be beyond Nebuchadnezars Head of Gold; for he sets a Tripple-crown upon h [...]s bead: But there is a Stone cut out of the Moun­tain without hands, that will dash his Head of Gold to pieces, with his Crown. So it is not the handy works of mens hands, make them never so strong, that will stand before this Stone: Glory to God in the high­est forever. And this Stone will become a great Mountain, and fill the whole Earth; it is encreasing, and in vain do the Pot-shreds of the Earth, and Briars, and Thorns, set themselves in Battel-array against it; for his Ensign and Flag of Defiance against all Idolatry, with their Idols, is hell forth: and his Truth spreads, and his Light shines, by which they all see the Foundation, and Rock of Ages: And this Stone is fallen upon your Head and Body, and will grind you to Powder; [Page 11]for when your Head is dead, you make another with a great deal of quarrel and strife, and many times Blood is shed, that some of your Members are killed about making of a head, when the body makes him like to frantick men that have lost their Brains: But for your Racks, & Fires, and Fagots, your rude Rabble would never be kept in order; for that noble Spirit and noble Mind of Christ Jesus, the Heavenly Man, the second Adam, that rebuked his Disciples, that would have had Fire to come down from Heaven to consume them, as the Pro­phets did, that would not receive them; and Christ told them, that they knew not what spirit they were of, that would have had mens lives taken away, and destroy them; and this was by way of Pray­er, Shall we Pray that Fire come down, &c. Now if they did not know what spirit they were of the Disciples of Christ Jesus, who would have Fire to come down to consume the People, they would not do it by Inquisitians, and outward Burnings, by Stacks of Faggots, nor Hang, ing of them, as you have done: Therefore have you known what spi­rit you are of? Have you known your own spirits, either Pope, or Cardinal, or Friars, &c. that have burned, and racked, and put to Death so many Thousands since the Apostles dayes, since you got up with your counterfeit Church and Heads. And so you that do not know what spirit you are of your selves, do you think that any that know God or Christ will trust their bodies, or their souls, or spirits in your hands, that do not know what spirit you are of your selves? Then they may say they have lost their Reason, and Understanding, like your selves: But Christ's Prophesie is come upon you, & John's Revelation; and the Apostles, That the Man of sin and Son of perdition is exalted above all that is called God in you; and so there might be a ceparting away from Truth, and then the man of sin should be revealed and there must be a falling away; and so he is revealed now, Thes. 2.2, but the Lord will consume him with the Breath of his Mouth, and destroy him with the Brightness of his coming, that Satan, that hath been working in you, all those lying Signs and Wonders, with the decei­vableness of Unrighteousness, in you that Perish, because you re­ceive not the Love of the Truth, that you might be saved: For this cause God hath sent strong Delusions among you, that you should be­lieve a Lye, that they might be damned who believe not the Truth, but have had pleasure in all your unrighteous doings, and [...]ctions and bloodthirstiness: But we are bound to give God Thanks always [Page 12]through Jesus Christ who hath called us by his Gospel to obtain the Glory of our Lord Jesus Christ, who is the Head of our Church: But It's clear you are of them that have smitten your Fellow-Servants, and have eaten and drunken with the Drunkards: for what must you look for? but to be cut assunder, and appointed your Portion with Hypocrites, where is Weeping and Gnashing of Teeth, Mat. 24. And you have made salfe christs, and shewed your Signs and Wonders, if it were possible, to deceive the very Elect; but it is not possible; the Elect was before the World was: And so you are the unprofitable Servants, that have hid your Tallent (the fruit of which is Love) under your earthly Traditions, your earthly Idols and Rudiments, your own In­ventions, and Works of your own hands: and the fear you teach your people, is by your own precepts, which you never had from God, Christ, nor his Apostles; and instead of Clothing the Naked, and Feeding the Hungry, and Receiving Strangers, and Visiting the Sick, you have made Naked, you have made Sick, you have made Stran­gers; and in as much as you have done it to these true Christians, you have done it to Christ the Head: And why? Because they will not own your Idolatrous Wayes and Idols, your counterfeit Head, your counterfeit Church; and instead of Visiting in Prison, you have cast into Prison, and there let them Perish: Hear the Sentence of the Head of the Church for all your evil doings and works, Depart from me; for you must go into everlasting Punishment; yea, depart from me, ye cur­sed, into everlasting Fire, prepared for the Devil and his Angels. Then, what have you got here by all your Merits, by all your Works, your tinckling Cymbals, your founding Brass, who have not had love? Have you given your Goods to the Poor? Could you give your Bo­dies to be Burned? Have you Tongues, Hebrew, Greek, and Latine, and full of Envy and Blood-thirstiness, and void of Love? A seditious Sect, degenerated: Have you Faith? It's but a dead one, one that doth not work by Love; for Love is the fulfilling of the Law: Is not the Birth of the Flesh sound amongst you, of Hagar, that persecutes him that is born of the Spirit, the Free-womans Children: And so are not you the dishonourable Birth, that must be cast out? And are not the works of the Flesh manifest amongst you, as, Adultery, For­nication, Ʋncleanness, Lasciviousness, Idolatry, Witch-craft, Hatred, Vari­ance, Emulations, Wrath, Strife Sedition, Heresie, Envy, Murder, Drunk­enness, Revilling, & such like? Look upon your church, are not all these [Page 13]found? Look over Ireland on your Holy-dayes; what Drunkeness; I ne­ver saw so many people drunk, as I do of your people, on that you call Peter's-day; but the fruits of the spirit it is Love, Joy, Peace, Gentleness, Pa­tience, Meekness, Goodness, Long suffering, Faith, Temperance; but these are wanting among you, and the other Fruits plentifully may be ga­thered of your corrupt Trees, that cannot bring forth good Fruit; who are Strangers to the Covenant of Promise, without the Hope that pu­risies as he is pure; therefore you must have a Purgatory when you are dead: and so are like a Company of Heathen Priests, raging for your Images, and your Idols, and your godds, you have made of Bread and Wine, and christs; and are ignorant of them that preach the true Doctrine of the Apostles, who preached the Word in the Heart and Mouth; and Christ was in people, except they were Reprobates, though they have had Bread and Wine: The Apostles tell people no where that Bread and Wine was Christ, after they had blessed it; the Apostle tells them of an Anointing within them, that should teach them, and as it doth teach them, they should continue in the Son and in the Father, and as he was, so were they in the pre­sent evil World: So they need not have a Purgatory, but you are all in your Purgatories already, Head and Tail, and Body, already se­perated from God, and the true Church, and Head; And so as Christ said, False Prophets should come, Mat. 7.2., and Antichrists; and bid the Disciples not to go after them, for they should be inwardly ravening Wolves, having Sheeps-Clothing: And so its clear that you have the Sheeps-clothing, that you are inwardly ravening Wolves, that have worried so many Sheep and Lambs; but you have prey'd upon them, and made War with the Remnant of the Seed of the Woman, and have drunk the Blood of the Saints and Martyrs of Jesus So as Christ said they should come, and John said they were come, and it was the last time then, and they went forth into the World, and the World went after them; and so you were the Fore-men of the World, that led in­to Error, as you may read in John, and Mat. 7.21. A dread Ti­mothy, where the spirit speaks expresly in the latter dayes of forbid­ding Marriage, and of [...], the doctrine of Devils: And read Jude, such as should go in Cain's way, and Balaam's way, and Corah's way, gainsaying the Gospel, persecuting for Gifts and Rewards; and here your Fruits are clearly seen, the Son of Righteousness shines over your heads amongst his Peop [...]e; and so here you went from the Apo­stles [Page 14]Head, Christ; if you had been of them, no doubt but you would have continued with them; Christ saw you inwardly ravening from the Spirit of God, from the Spirit of Truth, the Word of God in the Heart; from the true Faith, that works by Love; from the true Do­ctrine, and so are up to the very brim in false doctrine, and Idols, and Images of your own making, and Inventions; and so you may see in the Revelation, how the Beasts got up; the first out of the Sea, the se­cond out of the Earth; and how the Dragon gave his Power to the Beast, and how his Worship was set up; and how the Whore the false Church got up, and there are the Names of the Beast, which we leave you to interpret; and how long the Beast must be worshipped: and how long the true Church was to be in the Wilderness, and to be fed of God, and the Man-Child taken up to God, and he should be brought forth again, and to rule all Nations with a Rod of Iron; and the Bride should come forth again, and the Marriage of the Lamb should be known again, and the Lamb and the Saints should have the Victory: So read your Antiquity, and how that all that would not receive the Beast's Mark, and drink the Whores Cup; the false-church she drunk the Blood of the Saints: What, hath she been as a Queen, and hath she seen no sorrow? But now is she losing her Children; and the Scripture is fulfilling, Glory be to the Lord God forever. But you shall cry, Alas, Alas, What have we had a Golden Cup, that is full of Abomination? What have your Kings drunk it, and do some begin to hate her? Oh! You must drink the Cup of the fierceness of the Wrath of God Almighty, before this cup of Abomination be purg­ed out of you: The Angels begin to sound their Trumpets; and the Everlasting Gospel is preached a [...]ain, and that makes you to roar; it sounds to Rome, and to the Turks, and to the Maguls, the Jews, and Gentiles: the Everlasting Power of God, before the Devil was, will awaken you: The Gospel-Bell begins to Ring, it is beyond Aaron's Bells; Christ, the High-Priest, is entring into his Temple. For, had you been of the Apostles, no doubt but you would have conti­nued with them; for your doctrine is forbid by Christ and his Apo­stles; for Christ bid, F [...]ed my Lambs. And you Wolves worry them, and have got the Sheep. Clothing in three or four Langua­ges, you have learned naturally; and they that had the gift of Tongues were but tinckling Cymbals and sounding Brass, who had not love; and therefore all your Sounds, it hath been but in comparison the [Page 15]sound of Brass, and your tinckling but as Cymbals, and your own Inventions: And so your head is false, not being found of that Ca­tholique Faith, that works by Love: And the Word of the Lord God is kindling, that Fire that will burn the Whores Flesh, and will take her, together with the Beast, and the Dragon, and cast her and them alive into the Lake of Fire.

What, you to profess Christ Jesus in words, and Murder and Per­secute the true Christians to death! What is this but Ishmael, and Cain, and Sodom, and Egypt, and the Jews, and the Heathens spirit and nature; and the Whore, and the Beast, and the Dragon, and the Devil, and false Prophets, and false Apostles, and Antichrist against the true Apostle and Christ Jesus, who saith, Love Enemies, Love one another.

Oh Seditious Sect! For when the second Beast rose out of the Earth, then all your earthly Idols were established, earthly Inven­tions, earthly Images; and then got your Whore on the top of the Beast, your false Church, Mystery Babylon, arrayed in Purple and Scarlet, deckt with Gold and Precious-Stones, and Pearls; do you see how she is decked? a Golden Cup in her hand, full of Abomination, of Filthiness, of Fornication; and upon her head written, Mystery Babylon the great, the Mother of Harlots: Yea, of all the Harlots from God, from Christ, from the Apostles, from the Spirit, from the Faith, from the Truth, from the Power of God, the Cross of Christ, from the Righte­ousness, and from Christ the true Head, and from the true Church: And this Whore thus decked, has drunk the Blood of the Saints, and Jesus his Martyrs: Who cannot but wonder to see such a Monster! And from whence came he, that this Whore, this Woman, this false Church sits upon, but from the Bottomless-pit; and thither must they return again, with his Horns.

And now is the Cry is, Come out of her my People; signifying that God hath a People to come out there, lest they be Partakers of her Plagues, This is the day that the Lord is calling, Come out of her my People; we have heard his Voice, and can rejoyce over her; for God will be avenged on her, and she shall be cast down like a mighty Mill-stone, read Rev. 17. For mark, Here is the Devil, the Dra­gon, and the Whore, and the false Prophet as Companions, that came out of the Beast like Froges. These go altogether; to wit, the Beast, and the Dragon, and the Whore on the top of the Beast, [Page 16]the Dragons Power, and his worship hath been set up, and she is ri­ding on the Devils power, killing and murdering the Lord Jesus his Martyrs, and Prophets.

What! Hath your Church lived deliciously, and been as a Queen, and no Widdow? Doth she profess to be a Married Wife, and a Queen? She hath made many of her Merchants rich, and is not she become the Habitation of Devils, and Hold of every foul spirit, and Cage of every hateful Bird? And hath not the Beast had two Horns, like a Lamb, and exercised the power of the first Beast; and all that will not worship, and receive h [...]s Image, and drink the Whores Cup, must be made war against, and their Blood drunk? The Son of Righteousness is risen, that shines, that shews his Horns, his Marks, his Names, & what is written upon the Whores Fore-head: and so against them that have kept the Testimony of Jesus (the Spirit of Prophesie) by which they have seen you, you have made War against them, and against them that have kept the Commands of God, the Remnant of her Seed, which is the Seed of the Woman, whom the Dragon was wrath withal, and was fled into the Wilderness, there to be fed of God one thousand two hundred sixty dayes; and this Dragon gave his power to your Beast, that the Whore sits upon; and so by the Dra­gons power she rules: And out of this Beasts power have your false Prophet gone crooking up and down the Nations, and creeping un­der the Mountain like Froggs, the unclean spirits; and these spirits are Devils, that came out of the Mouth of the Beast and false Pro­phet that should work Miracles, and deceive the World. But a day of Famine will come, and Plague and Death to this Life that you live in, and flaming Fire; for strong is the Lord God that judgeth her, the great Whore, and false Church, her smoak is seen, and we know that you will begin to knaw your tongues for Pain; for your King­dom is full of Darkness: For the Angel hath Power over your Thrones, and your Rivers will be dried up, which is muddy Water. For hath not your City bin divided into three parts, and the Turk got one part, and the Protestants another? And all your noisom Smells begin to smell, who have the Beasts Mark in your Fore-heads, and have worshipped his Image, that have been out of the Image of Christ; and so the Lord is True and Righteous in his Judgments; for he hath judged the great Whore, which hath corrupted the Earth with her Forhication and will avenge the blood of his Servants at your hands: [Page 17]she hath corrupted the Earth with her Idols, and Idolatries, and In­ventions, and Fables; and so we are come through the Light of Christ Jesus, above her, by which we see the Heavenly Jerusalem, the true Spouse, the Lambs Wise, Christ the Head, the true Church, and the new Earth, wherein dwells Righteousness; and your old Earth, which the Devil compasseth, wherein dwells Unrighteousness, filled with Ido­latry and Corruption, and filthiness of flesh and spirit, that which cumbers the Ground, fruitless Trees that have born no Fruit to God.

The Gates of our City, Heavenly Jerusalem, are not shut neither by Night nor Day; but any that come to the Light of Christ Jesus, they may enter through the Light into our City, which is far above your Mystery Babylon, false City, false Church, VVhore, Dragon, false Pro­phet, which hath been the Drinker of the Blood of the Righteous; Persecutors and Murderers by the Devils power and authority, which Christ, who is our Head comes to destroy, who was before the Devil was, and will be when the Devil is gone; who was First and Last; the Beginning, and End; the Top and Corner-Stone, who is our Rock, which our House is built upon; and our Foundation, upon which we are built: Glory to God in the Highest for evermore. And now to something further.

VVhereas you tell us a long Tale of Anaxagoras, a Philosopher; you have just hit your own Condition, for it suits your present Con­dition, and it is a very fit Comparison for you, who would make Peo­ple believe you can make a godd and christ, and make a head for your Body, the POPE; and so deceive people; as he makes people be­lieve, That the Snow was Black, and the Sun was a broad Plate of Net­tal: And so you are so perverse in Nature, though you are confuted, and convinced in your Consciences, you will not be brought from your Error, as before mentioned, and out of your Seditious and Er­ronious wayes; and so you have gone about to confound Truth, but it is too hard for you; for the Devil is out of it.

And as for your prophane Impiety, you say we draw people to, that is your own Condition, and Jewish Fables, and Heathens also, you may find enough of them at home in your own Houses and Fields; nay worse then the Iews.

It seems you cry out, That we Disturb the Tranquility of the Chri­stian Religion: Nay, it is your false Religion, which you have made, [Page 18]who are a Seditious Sect, who are erred from the Pure Religion that is above, that keeps from the Spots of the World, which is to visit the Fatherless, Widdows, and Strangers; and you instead of this cast into Prison, and let your Poor go Begging up and down your Streets, and Fatherless, and Widdows; as look into France, and o­ther Parts: And if you were in this Religion, which you, as a Sediti­ous Sect, are erred from, which would keep you from the Spots of the World, which is pure from above, and undefiled before God, you would not tell people of a Purgatory: And so the pure Religion we stand for, against all your false Ones; and every one among us may Minister as they have received the Grace, as good Stewards; and they may all Prophesie one by one: And God hath poured out his Spirit upon his Sons, and Daughters, and Hand-maids, and Young-men, and Old men, that every one hath somewhat to offer to God; but this is a Strange Paradox to your false Church and seditious Sect, that are erred from the Apostles, who limit your Preaching to such as have got the Natural tongues; and so, Nebuchadnezar like, whom you please you set up, and whom you please you pull down: and whom you please you open their Mouths, and whom you please you stop them; and they that would not Bow at the sound of your PIPE and ORGAN, you cast into the Fire, Nebuchadnezar like: But this is a Strange Paradox; you can make Ministers, as you can make a Christ and a Godd, one like the other, out of Truth; an [...] so, in so doing deny the true Ministers, and the true Christ, and God, who is to be worshipped in the Spirit and in the Truth, which Christ set up above 1600 years since; and since you have forsaken Christ, that is worshipped in the Spirit and in the Truth, you compel others; do not you so? who is the same to day, yesterday, and forever. But from this Infallible Worship, that Christ s [...]t up in the Spirit and in the Truth (which the Devil is out of) are you erred from the Spirit and Truth, & become a Seditious Sect, an Erronious and Schismatical Sect and Per­secuting the true Worshippers of the living God in Spirit and Truth, which Truth and Spirit is within, by which Spirit the God of Truth is known. It seems John Stubbs, and James Lancaster, have sore­ly angred that Seditious Sect of Rome.

And whereas thou tellest us of Phanatick Assertions, which we are clear of; but thou mayst look at home for that, and take in thy old fathers Puddles of Errors and Blasphemies, which we deny: And [Page 19]as for Phanatick, is there a People more like them in the World then you, in Rage, and Fury, and Madness against the Righteous, for your Godd you have made, and your Images, and Idols, and Fables? And have you not tewed your selves about them, as much as ever Tu­bal did about the godds they made? For the Spirit of God is Gentle and Meek, and so your Phanatick Humours have sufficienly spoken forth themselves to the Nations.

And whereas thou speakest, That we have rightly tituled the Mother Church of Rome the Old-Woman: ☞ Though thou hast got some Glory in it, which seems to paint thee off a little, but thou shouldst have taken all our words, The Mother Church of Rome, with all her Old-Womans Fables; this thou tearmest to be a Scoff: But is it not a Scoff in thee to call us the Young Woman, for calling that the Mother Church of Rome, the Old Woman, with her Fa­bles, that Harlot who hath drunk the Blood of the Saints and Mar­tyrs of Jesus; she hath [...] [...]onour from God, nor her saints; and her Reward will be the Flames, and all that hold her up, the Flames of Hell; read in the Revelation her Portion: And there is no com­parison between your Mystery Babylon, and the Old Woman of Rome, that you cry up so; and Christ Jesus, the Saviour, and the true Church; but it manifests your Ignorance and Darkness, and as them that call Darkness Light, and Light Darkness; Good Evil, and Evil Good: And your Mother Rome doth begin to be out of date, and is out of date with many that are come to Christ Jesus, their Head, the true Church; and do lay her aside like an old Almanack.

Thou sayest, because we call her the Old Woman of Rome, this was enough to convince us of our Arguments. Nay, nay, she is a Har­lot, and not the Spouse of Christ; you speak as men that have lost your brains: For though we do say the Old Woman, with all her Fables; yet we deny her to be the Spouse of Christ Jesus, for she hath shed the Blood of the Martyrs and is brim full of Idolatry, and her Cup is full of Abominations, which corrupt the Earth; and to the Brim she must have a Cup of Indignation of the Wrath of the Lord God Al­mighty.

And as for the Weather-cocks, blown about with every rew and false doctrine, look into your own Fields, and look at Rome: How many false Doctrines have blown you about, and false Wayes, and several Images, and Orders, have you set up since the Apostles dayes [Page 20]by that persecuting murdering spirit? Do not you call your old Mass-house, your Church? Do not you Worship there? And when you come into them, do not you put off your Hats? And do not you wor­ship when your Host is carried, and fall upon your knees, and wor­ship your Image? Is not here your Church, founded upon Idolatry? And did not the Apostles speak of your Antiquity, and worshipping of Angels, and that were Intruders into those things that they did not see, that did not hold the Head, and neglect the Body; and so you are Worshippers of Angels, and neglect the Head, and have set up a Head of your own making. And have not the Gates of Hell prevailed against your outward House, which you call a Church, and your People.

Now you seem to shuffle, and call the People your Chruch, and say, The Gates of Hell hath not prevailed against your Church, that is, against your People: The Reason, you say, is. The Spirit of Truth, Christ saith, shall lead his Church into a [...] [...]th, which he would send to them: And Christs saying to Peter, Ʋpon this Rock will I build my Church: And therefore because Christ said these words to his Disciples, therefore the Gates of Hell hath not prevailed against your Church, and your Church hath stood without Interruption to this present day, neither Fails nor Corrupts.

Mark People, how impudent these Men are! What without blush­ing they can speak such words: Is not all their Brothel-house, and Stew-houses, and Fornication, and Adultery, is not this Unclean­ness? And all their Idols, and Images, from their false Church, silled to the brim with that? And all their bloody Persecutions, is not this from an unclean spirit? But he saith, Their Church hath stood without the least Interruption: And now people, you know that since Boniface the third, the first Universal Pope, was set up by a Murder­er, one Phocas, who Murdered his Master; and since their Church hath been held up by Murder; he saith, That their Church hath stood without the least Interruption: Now since the Pope got up, did not the Turk get up? And did not the Turk get from the Pope, Jerusa­lem, Constantinople, Aegypt, Greece, and many other Parts of the World, that might be mentioned? How can these men be so audati­ons, as to say, Their Church hath stood without Interruption; And if the Turk be the Gates of Hell, he hath prevailed against you: And are there not Protestants in France? Yea, at Rome; Protestants in [Page 21] Switzerland, Protestants in Germany; and many Princes, as King of Denmark, King of Sweedeland, and Low-Countries, and Ireland, Scot­land, and England, and other places which have forsaken the Pope and his Church, in words. Now have not the Gates of Hell prevail­ed against this People? Have not these Papists lost their Reason and Understanding, as men? What, hath not the godd of the World blinded you, that you cannot see? Oh that men should be so blind, and so bold, to utter such Falshood, as to say, That it hath been with­out the least Interruption; the Pope and false Church! Nay, it is their City that hath been divided: what I yars are these I that love to Lye, to Flatter, and Dissemble on this manner, and to Deceive the Simple; they are simple indeed that will be deceived. Alas, alas, You are driven up into a narrow scantling, over you were at first. Did not you Burn with Fire and Fagot in England, in Bonner's time? If these be the Gates of Hell, they have prevailed against you, and your counterfeit Church too, and your Head also: And it hath been the unclean Ghost that came from the Dragon, that hath led you into all these Images, and Idolatry, and Sedition, and Blackness, and Darkness, which is over you. We know that Christ did pray to the Father, and he hath sent the Spirit of Truth, that leads the true Church into all Truth, of which Church Christ is the Head.

And whereas thou speakest, Of Peters Feeding his Lambs and Sheep; you have torn the Sheep in pieces, and Lambs also, and rul'd by Force and Cruelty, and sed the Wolves; and Peter having Power to Bind (and so did the rest of the Apostles) and to Loose: What is this to your counterfeit Church, whom the Gates of Hell hath prevailed against? And a great stir you make to hold up the Pope, your coun­terfeit Head: And you cavel at that in the Acts, of Peter's being sent by the Disciples to Preach, Acts 8. for you would fain have Peter a Pope, that you may hold up your Pope; and this clearly proves that Peter was not above his Brethren: but they were all Brethren, as Christ said, they were his Brethren; you abuse Christs words in saying that he made him the greatest, and Head; for Christ tells his Disciples all his True Church are Brethren: But doth thy Christ, that is made of Bread and Wine, tell thee that Peter was Head? And so you will make a Head of the Pope, and your Pope and you will be Pead of your christ, that you have made; and Christ said to his Disciples, when they were at Strise who should be counted greatest, Christ tells [Page 22]them, The Kings of the Gentiles exercise Lordship over them, and Au­thority over them, and are called Gratious Lords; it must not be so a­mongst you. Here you slight Christ's words, in making a Head, and setting up your Gratious Lords, your Popes, to exercise Lordship over the People, in dispite against Christs Command; and so plainly manifest an Antichrist, a Schismatick, and a Sect degenerated from the true Brotherhood, and true Head; and he that will be the Greatest must be as the Least, he that is Chiefest as he that Serveth, &c. and so he brings to an even rule: And in many places it is plain that Peter never took the Headship to himself, as your counterfeit Head hath done in opposition to the True Church, and true Christ, in dis­pite against him; and this makes no Contradiction; for the Chiefest must be as he that Serveth, and the Greatest as the Least; this cuts off your Lordship; for the Scribes and Pharisees were reproved for that: And thou bringest an Argument to prove that Peter was Head of the Apostles, though the Apostles sent him.

Thou sayest, Though the Father sent the Son, yet to say that the Fa­ther hath greater Power then the Son, thou sayest, is Blasphemy.

Christ saith of Him, That his Father is Greater then He, John 14.28. and that was no Blasphemy in Christ: And how was he Greater, was it not in Power? Yet we tell thee again, that the Father and Son is one according to his Divinity; he is God, and God was in Christ; and according to the Flesh he Suffered, it was not God that Suffered, that Died, the Eternal God, but Christ Suffered according to the Flesh, as the Scripture declares: for what God was, that Christ prayed to, and said, Father, if it be possible, let this Cup pass from me; but not my Will but they Will: But these things are a Mystery to you, and your dark spirits, who it seems are ignorant of the Scriptures, neither are the Holy Men of Gods words fit to come into your Mouths.

And whereas thou sayest, Christ would have I relates to be humble People. Look over the Popes Church, and what Humility do you see? Are not your Women full of Spots, and the Pope with his Trip­ple-Crown, and their Gorgious Attire? Was this like Mary the Mother of Jesus, who was brought to Bed in a Stable, and laid Jesus in the Mainger? Now we shall hardly have room in your Stable, but in your Fires and Inquisitions; for the Devil would Destroy True Christianity throughout the Earth, who is become a false Christian in you; but Christ will brake the [...]e [...]d of hi [...]. And if Peter was at [Page 23] Rome yet he was not Pope over all the Churches, nor any of his Disciples, nor none of Peters Follower; all these things will not co­ver your Seditious Head, nor this Catalogue of Bishops, that were set up, not for the first Six Hundred Years after Christ, there was no U­niversal Pope all that time, till, as I said before, Boniface the third was set up by Phocas the Murderer; and after came in the Turk; and then came in the Devil, that hath filled your Cup to the brim with a Raging spirit, and a Murdering spirit And thou sayest the truth of this Succession is gathered out of Matthew, which proves nothing at all of this to you; for your counterfeit Church hath been prevail­ed against by them which worship Mahomet: Christ was with Peter to the end of his dayes, and with all them that be in his Spirit, the Spirit of Christ Jesus. But what is this to you who have erred from Peter's Spirit, and are got into a Murderous spirit, who Persecute People to Death for your Rudiments; Peter did not Persecute Peo­ple for not owning Christ, nor for not following Idols, or images, the Works of mens hands.

Another false Cover these Papists have, which they daub People with, concerning Peters being Head of the Church, where it is said in Matth. 16. where Christ asked his Disciples, Whom do men say that I am? And their Answer was, That he was John Baptist, some say; and others Elias; and others, Jeremiah, or one of the Prophets: But he said, Whom do you say that I am? Peter said. Thou art Christ the Son of the Living God: And Jesus answered and said unto him, Bles­sed art thou Simon Barjona: for Flesh and Blood hath not revealed this to thee: I s [...]y unto thee, th [...]u art Peter; and upon this Rock I will build my Church, and the Gates of H [...]ll shall not prevail against it. Now if this Church had been built upon Peter, as he was a man of Flesh and Blood, as you say; then when Peter was put to Death, the Gates of Hell had prevai'ed then; and here the Papists would give Christ the Lye; but Christ saith, That Flesh and Blood had not revealed this to thee; and thou art Peter; and upon this Rock will I build my Church: That his Flesh and Blood had not revealed unto him; thou art Peter: And what signifies Peter? If Peter signifies a Rock; and if Christ built his Church upon the signification of Peter's Sur-name, which signifies but an outward Rock, which outward Rock may be brought as a Figure of Christ, or a Parable, or Comparison; if it be built upon the Parable, it is not built upon the thing it self: Must not [Page 24]then all your Popes names be call'd Peter, if they be the Rocks of your Church; and so your Church must be built upon their Sur-names: Now if it be built upon Peter as a man, and your Popes as men, as you say it is, as Flesh, and Blood, &c. then it is built upon the sig­nification of the word Man, which is not the signification of Peter's Sur-name; but the signification of Man, is Adam; for Son of Man is Son of Adam, as Ben Adam, Ben Elohim and Adam signifies Red Earth, does it not? And so the Interpretation of the Popes Rock is, That he built his Church upon Red Earth; and Red Earth is not a Rock.

And what is that which Flesh and Blood hath not revealed? Thou art Christ the Son of the Living God, and upon this Rock is Christ's Church built, that his Flesh and Blood had not revealed, and the Gates of Hell shall not preva [...]l against this Rock, Christ Jesus; it de­stroyes the Devil, and his works, and his Power is over Hell and Death; and they are Living Stones that be Members of his Body. What is all this to the Popes counterfeit Head and Church, which the Gates of Hell have prevail'd against, their fleshly Foundation, their fleshly Church, and their carnal Head, which is devilish: And thus they have erred and degenerated from the Foundation of the Pro­phets, and Apostles, and Christ Jesus, being the Top and Corner-Stone; for Christ was their Rock the Apostles confessed; and the Rock that followed the Jews was Christ: And so it is clear, that you are the Foolish Builders, that have built your House on the Sand, the Sea shore, and many of your Houses are walled down; for they that built up [...]n the Rock Christ Jesus, which Flesh and Blood hath not revealed, but the Father hath revealed that Rock which his Church is built upon; by his Power and by his Spirit they stand sure: Glory be to God forever.

And whereas you bring Matt. 26. vers. 26, 27, 28. and compare it to John 6.5. This you do bring to prove your Sacrament of the Alter, and your christ and godd, that is made of Bread and Wine, which is to no purpose at all; for that of John 6. where Christ saith, Your Fathers did eat Manna in the Wilderness, but are dead: So you have eaten your godd that you have made with Bread and Wine, and are dead: But Christ is the true Bread, which comes down from Hea­ven; for Bread comes from the Corn and Wine from the Grape, and that comes from below; but he that eateth this Bread, that comes dow from Heaven, shall live for ever, &c. he that doth eat Christs [Page 25]Flesh and drink his Blood, doth not eat it Figuratively, but they eat it Really, if they have life in him: And Christs Flesh is not Wafers, nor his Blood is not outward Wine, that comes from the Grape; but Christ saith, His words are Spirit and Life, & the Flesh profitteth nothing; for it is the Spirit that quickeneth: Therefore you are darker then the Jews, and cannot receive Christs words, but judge them carnally, as they did: And for your old Fathers Talk or Story, that proves no­thing to us, but is like your own Fables. And as for that 1 Cor. 11.28. proves nothing as for you, that make a christ and a godd of Bread and Wine, for they wrote, That they were to take it in Remembrance of Christ: and if a Remembrance of him, then it was not he: Have you lost your Reason? If thou doest any thing in Remembrance of a man, if it be the man, what, doest thou it in Rememembrance of him? He saith, As often as you do this, do it in Remembrance of Christ; as of­ten as you eat this Bread: And so both the Bread and the Cup was left unto them as Often, not Alwayes; for they were to injoy Christ Jesus: And he said he would come and dwell in them; and so had it been he. Christ, it had been Non-sence and Ridiculous to say, in Remembrance of him, when it was he: What silly reasoning is this? And you do shew forth his Death till he come; so saith he, Till he come; Mark, then it is not he, it is not Christ; for if he is to come, it is not the same Christ as was offered up upon the Cross, if he be risen, and he is to come; So you have been all the unworthy Eaters and Drinkers, and not discern Christ nor his Body, who have put your Bread and Wine for the Body of Christ; and so have eaten and drunk your own Damnation, not discerning the Lords Body; and therefore you are Sick, and Weak, and asleep in your Sins: That which is done in a Shew, is it not a Figure, or a Shaddow? And a Shaddow mu [...]t be done away when the Substance is come: And people must come to dye with Christ, and be buried with him, if they live with him, and not alwayes eating (1 Cor. 11.) and drinking in Remembrance of him Bread and Wine; and they must Suffer with him, and Dye with him, and be Buried with him and Rise with him; now if you be risen with Christ, you seek those things that come from above; for Bread, Wa­ter, and Wine is from be [...]ow: For Christ saith, I am the Door, doth not be? And he is the Way, he is the Vine, and he is a Rock, and a Stone: And is Christ an outward Stone, an outward Vine, outward Bread, and outward Water, an outward Door, an outward Rock? [Page 26]If thou interpretest the one, interpret the other, and confute thy self, which is enough to confute all your whole counterfeit Church. Peo­ple may eat and drink natural bread and natural wine without Dam­nation to themselves: But surely the Bread and the Wine, which you say is Christ, and his Blood, and his Flesh, and the whole christ, a Wafer, or sup of Wine, or a piece of Bread, any Drunkard or Pro­phane Man or Woman, that is, can see it with their outward Eyes; but to say that to be Christ, his Flesh, and his Blood, that came down from Heaven, which came from the Grape, and from the Corn; thou wouldst make people believe, as the Phylosopher, That Snow is Black, and the Sun abroad Plate of Mettal. And your Confecrations makes your Wafers and Bread no more Christ, then it was before, nor God; for it is Blasphemy in you to say, That Wafers, or a little Bread or Wine is God: You have made many godds, and eaten them, and drunk them; but except your simple people had been inchanted, and so you make them believe it to be God; but we are over your In­chantments, and in that which will Grind you to Powder; and we know that Christ hath given his Flesh for the Life of the World, that is a Mystery to you, that make Christs of Bread and Wine.

Moreover, you say, That the Body of Christ was given for to redeem our Sins upon the Cross, which Body he gave to his Disciples at his Last Supper, &c.

Answ. People, did you ever hear the like? What silly Logick or Rhetorick is this? It seems the Apostles eat Christs Body, and drunk his Blood; then what Body had Christ to offer upon the Cross? Had he two Bodies; for he saith, He redeemed their Sins with his Body upon the Cross; and before he saith, He had given his Body to his Disciples, and they did eat it after Supper? What Non-sence and Confusion is this! It may well be called Mystery Babylon, the Mother of Harlots, that taught him such a Lesson: After the Disciples had eaten his Bo­dy, and drunk his Blood, when he went to be offered up upon the Cross, which he saith, His Body was offered up upon the Cross, for the redeeming of their sins: Did you ever hear such Doctrine? Did Christ come to redeem the Sins of people? You read of the true Do­ctrine, that the Apostles came to turn people from Darkness to Light; but you never heard of such a Doctrine; Sin is of the Devil: Did [Page 27]Christ come to Redeem the Devil? Nay: He came to destroy the Works of the Devil, and to Redeem People from Sin: See what gross Delusion and blind Ignorance appears here from this Seditious Sect of Papists, and these that stile themselves Masters of Arts: The Papists say, The same Body that suffered upon the Cross, the Apo­stles eat; and upon this their Salvation hangs: Now if the Apostles had eaten it, and drunk his Blood, then what Body had he to offer? Or see what Salvation these people have, which hang upon the Bread and Wine after Consecrated, to be Christ, and have no Christ but that which they make; And that is it which suffered upon the Cross: Then how came he to rise again, if they had eaten him, that very Body after Supper, that very Body of Christ Jesus? And how came he to be laid in the Grave, and yet came after to shew the Apostles his Hands and Sides, seeing they had eaten him, and his Body was whole? And the Apostle saith, As often as you do eat this Bread, and drink this Cup; Was it an outward Cup they drunk, or was there somewhat in the Cup? Did they swollow an outward Cup? Come, interpret this, and confute your selves.

And whereas thou bringest Faustus and Augustine, and speakest scoffingly of the People of God (called Quakers) and call'st them Humming Speakers, and shewest thy self to be of Ishmaels brood: And you bring St. John Damascenus, and a many such like Fathers of the Church, which is nothing to the purpose, but only to blind People (that are ignorant) withal, to make them believe that your Bread and Wine is Christ after you have blessed it, to keep your poor deceived people in ignorance: But the Lord is taking off your Covers, that your filthy Raggs may be seen, and your ugly Images and Idols, which have been set up by the Unclean spirit, and spirit of Persecution.

And whereas thou layest down a Charge, To know who was our first grand Speaker, after Peter, of our Religion?

I Answer, He that was of Peter's Spirit, which was of the Spirit of Christ Jesus, which was the Seed of the Woman, whom the Beast, and your false Church, the Whore, hath drunk their Flood, and made War against them that have kept the Testimony of [...]es [...]s, that have seen all your works and actions, and testifie against them, with all [Page 28]the whole Train of Idolatry, and Idols, and Images, that you have made an Idol of, Bread and Wine; and now the Seed is rising, and the Witness, that will make your earth to quake; and Christ says, Learn of Me; he was the first Speaker to us, called Quakers; This is my beloved Son, hear ye him, saith God: So I tell thee, he was our first Speaker, and he hath given us his Spirit, that leads into all Truth, that hath taught us the Way to life and Salvation; and he is the Rock of Ages, and not Peter, and the Foundation of many Genera­tions; and is the same to day as he was yesterday, and so forever; and he hath been our Leader, our Prophet, our Shepherd, our Priest, our Bishop, our Councellor, our Minister, our Preacher, whom God hath anointed to Preach, that Preacheth Life, Light, and Salvation: So we come to obey his Doctrine, and do his Will, and we shall know his Doctrine; if in doing the same, you will know our first Preacher, you must come to the Light, to see him, which will condemn all the Images and Idols, and condemn your christ and godd, that you make of bread and wine; and condemn your head and church too.

And whereas thou speakest Scoffingly, Of the Church of God being Smothered under a Cloud?

We say, to these Mockers, and to this Seditious Sect, That the Church hath been in the Wilderness, there fed of God Forty and Two Moneths, One Thousand Two Hundred and Threescore Dayes, which is a Time, and Times, and half a Time; so count you a day for a year, and then you may reckon your selves how long your false church the Mother of Harlots, hath been on the back of the Beast, whom the De­vil the Dragon gives power to and the year when the Woman, the true Church, is coming-out of the Wilderness, who hath been fed of God: God hath been her Feeder, which indeed you with the Dragons pow­er would have smothered Her, as under a Cloud or a Tubb, but the Earth helped Her; and she was preserved in the Wilderness, where you could not find her, though you went with Judas his Swords, Staves and Lanthorns, & your band of Soulaiers from your counterfeit Head: But I tell you, She was fed of God in the Wilderness Ferty two Moneths; and reckon this, and then you may see how long the false church, and the whore and the beast hath reigned, and when she comes out of the Wilderness again.

Then we Challenge you, To tell us how many Martyrs, Prophets, and Saints, the beast, and whore, the false church, that sate upon the Beast, in the Dragons power; how much of their Flood have they drunk, to wit, the Blood of the Saints and Martyrs of Jesus? And so by this time thou wilt see the coming in of the False church the where; and the going into the Wilderness of the true Church; the Down-fall of the Beast, and of the Whore; for if thou canst count the number of the true Church, that comes out of the Wilderness, thou wilt know the number of your false.

The Scriptures we own; we do contend against your filthy Raggs of your Heresie, which we deny, and will not put on; for we have a better Garment, which is the Fine Linnen, which is the Righteousness of the Saints.

THe Ingenious Reader hath read your Paper, and here is some­what in Answer to it; and finds it a confused piece of Non­sence, and Toutologies, and Contradictions; and if all the Fore­fathers, and these that thou hast quoted, be as dark as you are, they are in that which is Darkness it self, and ignorant of the Scripture, and of Christ, and the Apostles Doctrine, and Spirit and, Power, and Faith, and are seperated and degenerated from it (to wit) the Spirit of God: You are all judged, you and your Forefathers, to­gether with your Works, your Images; and are in the spirit of Per­secution, the first birth of the Flesh; of Hagar, that is cast out, and and not the Bride of the Lambs Wife, nor the true Spouse of Christ Jesus, which is coming forth of the Wilderness. Halelujah.