The petition and reasons of both Houses of Parliament to His Majesty, to forbeare his intended iourney to Ireland sent the 15 and presented the 18 of April by the Earle of Stamford, Sir John Culpepper ..., and Anthony Hungerford, Esquire : whereunto is added His Majesties answer hereunto returned to both Houses, Aprill 22. — Humble petition of the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament presented to His Majestie at York, 18 April, concerning his message lately sent unto them touching his resolution of going into Ireland

The petition and reasons of both Houses of Parliament to His Majesty, to forbeare his intended iourney to Ireland sent the 15 and presented the 18 of April by the Earle of Stamford, Sir John Culpepper ..., and Anthony Hungerford, Esquire : whereunto is added His Majesties answer hereunto returned to both Houses, Aprill 22. — Humble petition of the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament presented to His Majestie at York, 18 April, concerning his message lately sent unto them touching his resolution of going into Ireland

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His majesties Answer to this Petition, returned the 22. of Aprill, 1642.

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The Petition and Reasons Of both Houses of PARLIAMENT, to His Majesty, to forbeare His Intended Iourney to Ireland; Sent the 15, and presented the 18 of April.

By the Earle of Stamford, Sir John Culpepper Chancellor of the Exchequer, and Anthony Hungerford Esquire.

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Ordered to be forthwith Printed and Published.

Die Veneris 22 Aprill. 1642.

H. Elsing. Cler. Parl. D. Com.

Whereunto is added His Majesties Answer hereunto returned to both Houses Aprill 22.

LONDON, Printed for R. Harford, in Queens-head Alley, in Pater noster-row. 1642.

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May it please your Majesty,

YOur Majesties most loyall and faithfull Subjects, the Lords and Commons in Pa [...]liament, have duely considered the Message received from Your Majesty concerning Your purpose of going into Ireland in your own Person, to prosecute the War there with the bodies of Your English Subjects, leavied, transported, and maintained at their charge; which you are pleased to propound to us, not as a matter wherein your Majesty desires the advice of Your Parliament, but as already firmly resolved on, and forthwith to be put in execution, by granting out Commissions for the leavying of 2000 Foot, and 200 Horse, for a Guard for Your Person when You shall come into that Kingdom; Wherin we cannot choose but with all reverence and humility to Your Majesty, observe, That You have declined Your great Councel, the Parliament, and varied from the usuall course of Your Royall Predecessors, that a businesse of so great importance, concerning the peace and safety of all Your Subjects, and wherein they have a speciall interest by Your Majesties promises, and by those great sums which they have disbursed; and for which they [Page] stand engaged, should bee concluded and undertaken without their advice: Whereupon we hold it our duty to declare, That if at this time Your Majesty shall go into Ireland, You will very much endanger the safety of Your Royall Person and Kingdom, and of all other States professing the Protestant Religion in Christendom, and make way to that cruell and bloudy designe of the Papists every where, to root out and destroy the Reformed Religion, as the Irish Papists have in a great part already effected in that Kingdome, and in all likely-hood would quickly bee attempted in other places, if the consideration of the strength and Vnion of the two Nations of England and Scotland did not much hinder and discourage the execution of any such designe: And that We may manifest unto Your Majesty the danger and misery which such a journey and enterprize would procure, We present to Your Majesty the Reasons of this Our humble Opinion and Advice.

I. Your Royall Person will be subj [...]ct, not only to the casualty of War, but to secret practises and conspiracies, especially your Majesty continuing your profession to maintaine the Protestant Religion in that Kingdome, which the Papists are generally bound by their vow to extirpate.

II. It will exceedingly encourage the Rebels, who do generally professe and declare, That Your Majesty doth favour and allow their proceedings, and this Insurrection was undertaken by the warrant of your Commission; and it will make good their expectation [Page] of great advantage by Your Majesties Presence at this time of so much distraction in this Kingdome, whereby they may hope we shall be disabled to supply the War there, especially there appearing lesse necessity of Your Majesties journey at this time, by reason of the manifold successes which God hath given against them.

III. It will much hinder and impaire the meanes whereby this Warre is to bee supported, and increase the charge of it, and in both these respects, make it more insupportable to Your Subjects; And this wee can confidently affirme, because many of the Adventurers, who have already subscribed, do upon the knowledge of Your Majesties intentions, declare their resolutions not to pay in their money, and others very willing to have subscribed, do now professe the contrary.

IV. Your Majesties absence must necessarily very much interrupt the proceedings of Parliament, and deprive Your Subjects of the benefit of those further Acts of Grace, and Iustice, which we shall humbly expect from Your Majesty, for the establishing of perfect Vnion, and mutuall confidence betwixt Your Majesty, and Your People, and procuring and confirming the prosperity and happinesse of both.

V. It will exceedingly encrease the jealousies and feares of Your People, and render the doubts of Your Subjects, more probable of some force intended by some evill Counsels neer Your Majesty, in opposition [Page] to the Parliament, and favour of the malignant party of the Kingdome.

VI. It will bereave Your Parliament of that advantage, whereby they were induced to undertake this War upon Your Majesties promise, that it should be mannaged by their advice, which cannot be done of Your Majesty contrary to their Counsel, shall undertake to Order and Govern it in Your own Person.

Vpon which, and divers other, Reasons, we have resolved, by the full and concurring agreement of both Houses, That we cannot with the duty which belongs to us, consent to any levies, or raising of Souldiers to be made by Your Majesty, for this Your intended expedition into Ireland, or to the payment of any Army, or Souldiers there; but such as shall be employed and governed according to our advice and direction; and that if such Levie, shall be made by any such Commission of Your Majesty, not agreed to by both Houses of Parliament, we shall be forced to interpret the same to be raised to the terror of Your People, and disturbance of the publike Peace, and hold our selves bound by the Laws of the Kingdom, to apply the authority of Parliament to suppresse the same.

And we do further, most humbly declare, That if Your Majesty shall by ill Counsell bee perswaded to go, contrary to this advice of Your Parliament (which we hope Your Majesty will not:) We do not in that case hold our Selves bound to submit to any [Page] Commissioners which your Majesty shall chuse, but do resolve to preserve and governe the Kingdome by the counsel & advice of your Parliament, for your Majesty, and your Posterity, according to our Allegiance, and the Law of the Land.

Wherefore We humbly pray, and advise your Majesty to desist from this your intended passage into Ireland, and from all preparation of Men and Armes tending thereunto, and to leave the mannaging of that Warre to your Majesties Parliament, according to your Majesties promise made unto us, and your Royall Commission, granted under your great Seale of England, by advice of both Houses; In prosecution whereof, by Gods blessing, We have made a prosperous entrance by many defeats of the Rebels; whereby they are much weakened, and disheartned, and have no probable meanes of subsistence if our proceedings shall not be interrupted by this interposition of your Majesties journey, but that we may hope upon goods grounds, that within a short time, without hazzard of your Majesties Person, and so much dangerous confusion to your Kingdoms, which must needs ensue, if You should proceed in this Resolution, We shall bee enabled fully to Vindicate Your Majesties Right and Authority in that Kingdome, and punish those horrible and outragious cruelties which have been committed in the murthering, and spoyling so many of Your Subjects, and bring that Realme to such a condition, as may be much for the advantage of Your Majesty and this Crown, the honour of Your Government, and contentment of Your People; for the better and more speedy effecting whereof, we do [Page] againe renew our humble desires of your return to your Parliament; And that you will please to reject all Counsels, and Apprehensions which may any way derogate from the faithfulnesse, and allegiance, which in truth and sincerity, we have alwayes borne, and professed to your Majesty, and shall ever make good to the uttermost, with our lives and fortunes.

His majesties Answer to this Petition, returned the 22. of Aprill, 1642.

HIs Majesty hath thought something of the Petition, and is much unsatisfied with many of Your expressions therein: His Majesty will shortly send His Parliament, a particular Answer, but for the present you are to tell them, that as He resolved to do nothing concerning his Irish Iourney, before He should receive Their Answer, so now He will not proceed further therein, untill they shall heare further from Him again.

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The petition and reasons of both Houses of Parliament to His Majesty, to forbeare his intended iourney to Ireland sent the 15 and presented the 18 of April by the Earle of Stamford, Sir John Culpepper ..., and Anthony Hungerford, Esquire : whereunto is added His Majesties answer hereunto returned to both Houses, Aprill 22.Humble petition of the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament presented to His Majestie at York, 18 April, concerning his message lately sent unto them touching his resolution of going into Ireland

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— The petition and reasons of both Houses of Parliament to His Majesty, to forbeare his intended iourney to Ireland sent the 15 and presented the 18 of April by the Earle of Stamford, Sir John Culpepper ..., and Anthony Hungerford, Esquire : whereunto is added His Majesties answer hereunto returned to both Houses, Aprill 22., Humble petition of the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament presented to His Majestie at York, 18 April, concerning his message lately sent unto them touching his resolution of going into Ireland, England and Wales. Parliament., Colepeper, John Colepeper, Baron, d. 1660., Hungerford, Anthony, d. 1657..

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Printed for R. Harford ...,. London :: 1642.. (The answer here printed promises a fuller answer, which occurs in subsequent editions.) (Also published with titles "The petition of both Houses", "The humble petition of the Lords & Commons" and "The petition of the Lords and Commons".) (Reproduction of original in Thomason Collection, British Library.)

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