A CHALLENGE CONCERNING the Romish Church, her doctrine & practises, PVBLISHED FIRST AGAINST ROB. PARSONS, and now againe reuiewed, en­larged, and fortified, and directed to him, to Frier GARNET, to the Archpriest BLACKEVVELL and all their adhaerents,

By MATTH. SVTCLIFFE.

THEREVNTO ALSO IS ANNEXED an answere vnto certeine vaine, and friuolous exceptions, taken to his former challenge, and to a certeine worthlesse Pamphlet lately set out by some poore disciple of Antichrist, and entituled, A detection of diuers notable vntrueths, contradictions, corruptions, and falsifications gathered out of M. Sutcliffes new Challenge, &c.

S. Pauls words concerning the followers of Antichrist, 2. Thess. 2.

Eò quod charitatem Dei non receperunt, vt salui fierent; ideo mittet illis Deus opera­tionem erroris, vt credant mendacijs.

A praediction concerning Iesuits, Friers, and Popish masse priests, and their swarming abroad in the wold. Apocal. 9.

And out of the smoke of the pit there went out Locusts into the earth, and they had power giuen to them like vnto scorpions.

AT LONDON Printed by Arnold Hatfield. 1602.

TO THE RIGHT honorable Sir Robert Cecill Knight.

THe publike affaires of this State, right honourable, depending so much upon your counsell and direction, I should not onely wrong you, but others also, and forget my selfe, if I should either holde you with any long discourse, or impor­tune you with the hearing of a priuate quarrell betwixt me and a certeine base and vnworthy aduer­sarie, whose pleasure is to contend with me about certeine small quirks and questions. It may also seeme a matter vnwoorthie your place and person, to offer vnto you a small treatise concer­ning so small trifles, the aduersaries whole discourse, which I answere, being spent about certeine pretended vntrueths and falsifications, wherewith he would gladly charge me, if he could. Yet forasmuch as this controuersie grew first out of a chal­lenge made by me some two yeeres since to Robert Parsons, a man, rather for his hatred to the State, and treacherie against his Souereigne, than for learning, vertue, or pietie, knowen to many: and seeing the author of this quarrell now hath enfor­ced me to discusse some points both of Religion, and State, not vnprofitable to be well vnderstood; I haue made bolde to pre­sent this treatise ensuing, that conteineth not onely my former challenge, but also an answere to my aduersaries friuolous ob­iections, to your Honors hands.

The whole is diuided into diuers chapters, of which diuers doe conteine intire discourses, whereof you may chuse, and reade one or more, as your great occasions, and laisure will permit. and none there is, I hope, so barren, but it may yeeld some fruit. But if it may please your Honor to peruse the whole, you shall then better vnderstand, not onely the occasions of this quar­rell, but also the iustice of our cause, and the vaine cauils, which our aduersaries make against vs, for want of better matter, when as we without all circumloquution charge them with hae­resie and falshood in matter of religion; and disloyalty and trea­chery in matter of State.

Your Honor shall also thereby perceiue the great weaknesse of our aduersaries cause, and the pouertie of the principall actors in the same, who abandoning the maine points in controuersie, begin now to picke quarrels, at words, allegations, points, quo­tations, and other by-matters, and ceasing to ioine with vs, and like Diuines to argue, and dispute, fall to plaine calumnia­tion and railing. for hauing some yeeres past written diuers treatises, not onely against Robert Parsons, but also against Robert Bellarmine the chiefe Patriarke now of all the Pa­pists, and hauing published a challenge against Rob. Parsons, and proued, that his consorts the Papists are neither good Ca­tholicks, nor yet true Subiects; yet do I not finde any, that dare encounter me hand to hand, nor haue I receiued any answere to any purpose, nor haue I yet encountred any, that hath opposed himselfe to any discourse or argument of mine. Parsons, he is content to be silent, and he that hath put foorth the pamphlet called The detection, albeit he could not holde his peace, yet could he not say much, being of the number of those idle fel­lowes, qui nec tacere, nec rectè fari possunt. he doth onely except against certaine allegations, and by-matters, and quota­tions of my challenge; but the discourse it selfe, and the conclu­sions thereof were either too heauy for him to lift, or too hot for so frigide and maleficiat a fellow to touch.

If then law doth iustly praesume him to be guiltie, that being arreigned at the barre standeth mute; then is it not to be prae­sumed, that either Rob. Parsons is cleere, or his cause good, or that his clients are such, as he pretendeth, againe, if Decius in l. [...], ff. de reg. iur. & Barth. in l. quaesetum. §. de­ni (que). ff. de fundo instructo. lawyers say true, that exceptions confirme the rule in cases not ex­cepted; then hath my aduersarie confirmed the maine dis­course against Parsons, and his adherents, hauing not said any thing vnto it, but only excepted against a few places, whereof he taketh 13. to be vntruly alledged, and 13. to be falsified.

Furthermore, if in the very places, where my aduersarie thought to winne greatest aduantage, he hath gotten nothing, but rather shewed his owne ignorance & malice; I hope all in­different men will well allow of the rest, and grant, that I haue vsed more than ordinary circumspection in this labour. for doe what a man can, yet may either marginall notes be misplaced, or words stand disorderly, or things be mistaken. Finally, if to answere the aduersaries obiections, and to encounter him in his turne, I shalbe able to charge not onely Bellarmine, Baronius, Parsons and such like meane fellowes, but also the Pope him­selfe & the Church of Rome with vntrueths and falsifications, which can not be answered; then Gods iustice will appeare, that hath brought them into the pit, which they digged for others, and I hope they will henceforth forbeare to charge me, and other honest men with lies, and falsifications, finding themselues most guiltie, and vs in respect of themselues most innocent. Of all men the detector shall haue least reason to make a challenge concerning vntrueth and falsifications being able to answere nothing in a In an an­swer to a ca­lumnious re­lation, the Papists stand charged with diuers falsifi­cations, and yet dissemble the whole matter. cause, where he is defendant, nor able to iustifie that pamphlet, which himselfe hath published.

But of all these matters your Honor shall then be able best to iudge, when you shall haue read the discourse ensuing, and com­pared his exceptions with my challenge, and my answere with his vaine exceptions. all which I doe present to your Honor, as much esteeming your iudgement in such cases, and desiring to [Page] haue my cause heard and tried by men of such integritie, and iudgement, and little weighing the vaine cauils of others, if my labors be approued by men of such grauitie and wisdome.

The worke as far as it concerneth my aduersaries excepti­ons is not great, nor the controuersie betwixt mine aduersarie and me materiall. but the fault was not mine, but his, whose trifling pamphlet at this time gaue mee no better subiect to worke vpon. yet this profit may the readers reape by it, that they shall hereafter not need to feare either the vaine brags, or great words, and titles which the Papists do arrogate to them­selues, seeing they are demasked, and declared neither to be true catholicks nor loiall subiects, if they hold the grounds of Popery.

But whatsoeuer this treatise is, or may effect, I beseech your Honor to accept it as a token of his deuotion, that is a member of that Vniuersitie, whereof you are Chancellor. and as you do suc­ceed your worthy father in that place, so I beseech God, that you may not only succeed him, but also surpasse him, if it be possible, in his zeale and pious care to aduance true religion, and lear­ning. During his time, although none of Baals priests durst ei­ther looke into the Vniuersitie, or shew himselfe abroad in this realme, yet did they secretly keepe in corners. but by your Ho­nors care and vigilancy, according to her Maiesties late Edict, we do hope to see them not onely repressed, but also quite expul­sed, and returned to him that sent them.

What their errors are, and what they deserue, it may in part appeare by this treatise. the rest we refer to those, whom it con­cerneth. And so loth to interrupt the course of your more seri­ous congitations and actions, I end, beseeching the God of hea­uen to blesse you with his heauenly graces, and as he hath vsed you hitherto, as a notable instrument to aduance religion, lear­ning, and iustice, so to grant, that all that loue true religion, lear­ning, and iustice may long enioy your helpe and fauor.

Your Honors in all dutifull affection MATTH. SVTCLIFFE.

The Preface to all indifferent Readers, wherein not only the purpose of this treatise is declared, but also diuers points of the aduersaries Preface and first chapter, that fell not within the compasse of any order, examined and refuted.

ALthough the quarrels and cavils of false teachers and haeretikes, gentle reader, proceed from the fountaine of their malice, and are set forward by the suggestions of satan, who by all meanes endevoureth to trouble the peace of gods church, and to shake the faith of such weaklings, as are not firmely built vpon the immooueable rocke Christ Iesus: yet it pleaseth God oftentimes, by his vnsearchable wisdome, to dispose mens evill purposes and actions to his great glory, and the aduancement of religion, & the great good of his church, which those men thought to ruinate. Etiam sic veris illis catholicis membris Christi malo suo prosunt saith Saint Lib. 18. de ciuit. dei. c. 51. Au­gustine speaking of haeretickes, that contumaciously re­sist the trueth, and seeke to defend their pestilent and wic­ked opinions. Whereof although I had no great experi­ence before this time; yet now by the friuolous, and vaine cauils of a certaine corner-creeping disciple of antichrist against my late challenge made to Robert Parsons, disgui­sed [Page] vnder the maske of two letters, and calling himselfe N. D. I finde to be most true. For whereas heeretofore my challenge was not knowne to many, and now beganne to be forgotten of such, as first had read it. I doubt not, but this vaine cauiller, by his vaine exceptions will cause the same to be both more diligently read, and better re­membred, than it was like to be otherwise. for I doe not beleeue, that any man will offer me that wrong, that he will condemne me, before he hath both read, what I haue written, & examined the matters wherewith I am charged.

Secondly, because he hath alledged, that I deliver out matters upon mine owne credit, & without proofe, I have taken occasion to peruse my former challenge, & to forti­fie the same with divers authorities and arguments, and so to publish it: assuring thee if any thing now want proofe, that it is of that nature, that it is of it selfe most euident, and needeth no proofe, being either knowen publikely, or confessed by the aduersaries themselues.

Thirdly, this miserable fellow, that maketh himselfe partie against me, seemeth rather to betray the cause of the papists then otherwise. For taking vpon him to debate some matters in my late challenge, he is neither able to contradict my arguments, whereby I prooued, that the papists were neither catholicks, nor the true church, nor mainteined the old Christian faith, nor hath he abilitie to discharge his consorts of the crimes of haeresie and trea­son, wherewith they stand charged, and now by his silence seeme to be conuicted. So that I doubt not, but if the pope may vnderstand, and be well informed of this prating fel­lowes treacherous dealing in his cause, that he will either punish him, as a false traitor to his See, or at the least com­maund him to silence as a weake ideot, and foolish plea­der, in matter of religion.

Fourthly, he doth greatly grace my writings against [Page] his father Robert Parsons: for if he be not able to except against more places then sixe and twenty, or thereabout: it is cleare, that I haue said true in the rest, and that I haue argued, and alledged authorities to good purpose. For if I had offended, I doubt not but I should haue heard of it. And because you shal not suspect that these are but surmi­ses, rather than firme conclusions; I doe before hand tell you, that this vaine bangler will not hereafter vndertake to answer my challenge from argument to argument, allega­tion to allegation, testimony to testimony. Behold then ô miserable papists, your poore distressed proctor, and let the cacolike conuertite sisters relieue him with some good words of comfort, that in his needlesse quarrell hath ouer­throwne himselfe and his cause, and hath done me more fauour, than I shall be willing to requite him in haste.

Fiftly, he doth discouer the vanitie of his owne bragges in his most miserable pleading. I require no more learning, saith Detect. Ch. 1. p. 8. he, then the vnderstanding of Latin; no more labour, than to open the books, & view the places quoted; no more con­science, then that the tongue can truly report, what the heart thinketh: and yet when it commeth to the iumpe, with all that little learning he hath, and withall his labour could he not fasten any one vntrueth, or falsification vpon me; as shall sufficiently appeere by my answer. beside that, it is ri­diculous to talke of learning and vnderstanding of Latin, when in most of the places by him touched, I speake English, and alledge not the fathers words. in the rest it will appeare, that his prouision of Latin is not superabun­dant. this sentence therefore he hath translated out of the pretended bishop of Eureux his discourse, although it fit not his purpose in any sort.

Sixtly, He is a very vaine fellow to demand of vs such a conference, as passed in France. for well might he haue seene, if he had not wilfully shut his eies, that the case is [Page] not like: and the reasons he might have vnderstood, if he had not bene sencelesse, they being so plainly laid downe in my refutation of his father Robert parsons his calumni­ous relation sent vs from Rome (very wisely) of matters done in France. Further he might well haue remembred, if he had not bene forgetfull, that I offred the papists more then was demanded, for I did not onely promise to deale with Parsons, or any of his consortes in any priuate confe­rence, but also in publicke writing, which might not onely be viewed of all men, but also remaine to posterity as a te­stimony against those, that should be conuinced either of vntrueth or forgery, and which being extant in print nei­ther we, nor our aduersaries should be able to alter, or de­ny, or misreport any thing, that is written, as is the ordina­ry course of Popish Parasits in such conferences, and to shew, that I meant to performe as much, as I promised, I began to obiect certain epistles and canons forged not by such base thred-bare companions, as himselfe, but by the popes and church of Rome. I shewed also, that they had falsified the scriptures, and published infinit and mon­trous lies in their legends read publickly in the church. finally I put Robert Parsons in minde of the notorious clip­ping and corrupting of fathers of late practised by the pa­pists by their rubarbatif and expurgatorie indexes. but he like a wise fellow kept himselfe close and would no more heare of the matter, thinking it was better, as the old pro­uerbe teacheth, in this Carian to make triall of this hard aduenture, and to The pro­verbe, In care periculum fa­cito: teacheth that in base fellowes it is best to trie dangerous experiments. thrust this asse downe headlong from the rockes, knowing well, that if we should ouercome him, or come to the taking of him up, we should finde nothing but the carcase of a dead asse. wherefore then is our adversary so desirous of a conference, that doubteth to trie his man­hood in iustifying his friends falshood and forgery con­cerning matters already laid to their charge? Protrusit asinum in ru­pes. Horat. ep. againe when he seeth our readines to answer, why is he so slow to obiect?

Finally where he thinketh to triumpth most gloriously and to leade my brother Willet, and me both captiues and fast chained at the taile of his chariot, there he doth most pitifully disgrace himselfe, and free vs, and marre all that he medleth withall.

For first speaking of falsifications, he compareth them to Christ, and such mens incredulity, as will not beleeue him, he compareth to the incredulity of Thomas, that would not beleeue Christes resurrection, before he saw and felt manifest signes of it. the sentences alledged out of fathers and other authors, saith Praes. fol. 5. he, be so mangled and mai­med &c. as no protestant, I am sure will beleeue, vntill fee­ling and seeing with Saint Thomas convince his incredulity. is not this a braue gallant then, trow you, that compareth trueth to falshood, the feeling of Christ to the feeling of falsifications?

Secondly where the maine controuersy betwixt me and Robert Parsons in my challenge, is concerning the church of Rome, and where this blinde baiard might see, that I haue alledged diuers strong reasons to prooue, that the congregation of Romanistes under the pope and cardi­nalls, is not the true church of Christ, there, all this not­withstanding, my adversarie smoothly dissembleth the matter, and taketh that as granted, which he poore fellow can neuer prooue, and saith, that my brother Willet, Fol. 1. praef. and I imploy our forces in assaulting the impregnable sort of gods church, and battring that rocke, against which the gates of hell shall not preuaile. as if the congregation of the malignant, and wicked rable of antichrist could be the true church of Christ, or as if the gates of hell had not long since prevai­led against the pope and church of Rome. our aduersary therefore taking this for granted, that is the controuersy, if without controversy I haue not demonstrated, that the church of Rome is not the true church, sheweth, that he is [Page] pregnant with folly, of which he will not be deliuered be­fore he die, & that his face is as hard as the rocke, of which he talketh.

Thirdly he calleth popish religion Catholicke, and affir­meth Fol. 2. praef. it was planted here by Gregory the great, who by suc­cession receiued it from Peter, &c, and that it was alwaies visi­ble since Christ bearing still saile in the tempests of all persecu­tions. but he should doe well, to shew how true religion can be visible. for our saviour Christ saith, Iohn 4. that true wor­shipers worship God in spirit and truth. but spirituall worship and true internall deuotion is not so easily seene. unlesse therefore our adversary suppose popish religion to consist in the popes mitre, and in coules of monkes, and such like externall matters; he shal hardly proue religion to be visi­ble. Againe, he doth greatly wrong the popish cause, if he affirme popish religion to have bene planted here in Eng­land by Gregory, and be not able to answer my challenge, and to demonstrate those novelties, and late receiued fan­cies, which I have mentioned, either to haue beene taught by Gregory, or at the least by his disciples to haue beene planted here in England. Furthermore, seeing in my chal­lenge I doe prooue, that popish religion is not catholike, and giue for iustification of that point notable instances, such as our aduersary shall not be able to answer; is it not noto­rious impudency, to take this, as a matter either prooued, or confessed, and slily to call haeresie catholike religion? finally, I must entreat some plaine dealing papist to admo­nish this detector, or rather detractor of ours, not to say, that Gregory receiued the popish religion, that now is mainteined by the pope of Rome, and was first established in the conuenticle of Trent, from Peter; or that all, that is taught in Gregories dialogues, or epistles came from Peter; or that the Romish church, that now is visible in the pope, cardinals, monkes, and swarmes of friers, and in Romish [Page] ceremonies, hath borne saile in the tempests of all persecu­tions. for it is the pope, and his bloody inquisitors, that do persecute others, and are not persecuted. and if this be a qu [...]ty of the church, to beare saile in tempests of persecuti­ons, certes the pope and his retinue cannot be the true church, that for many hundred yeeres have lived in all pompe, iolitie, and pleasure. but if the Romish church be so well able to beare saile in tempests, it were much to be wished, that the pope and his cardinals would saile to the Indiaes, where we might heare no more of them, and that they would take our aduersary with them, who percase would prooue a better swabber, then a disputer.

Fourthly, In the beginning of his Praeface, he saith, he will present to his readers view a representation, or liuely pa­terne of a conference, that is, notable vntrueths and falsificati­ons, &c. and these also he auoucheth he will gather out of master Willets, and my writings. wherein I would pray all moderate papists to consider with indifferency this fond speech of this most miserable popish creature and proc­tor. he calleth notable untrueths and falsifications a paterne of such a conference, as he desireth. If then he desire a confe­rence, he must needs desire vntrueths and falsifications, if his words haue any sence. I know, he hopeth to picke them out of our writings. but if he finde any, they must be such, as are vttered by himselfe, and his conforts, and not by vs. in the meane while his fellowes are sory to see him speake so foolishly of conferences, vntrueths, and falsificati­ons.

Fiftly, He Fol. 1. praef. talketh also verie idelly of backe dores, and deceitfull entries, such as Daniel detected in Bels idolatrous priests. which, if I did not know the mans great simplicity, I would haue imagined to haue beene foisted into his Prae­face by some backe friend to popish religion, to the great disgrace of Romish priests, that by backe dores, and de­ceitfull [Page] entries play many lewd parts with their nonnes in Spaine and Italy, and with recusants wiues, maides, and daughters, where they are lodged and interteined in England, as shall be prooved by particulars, if any [...] to aske me the question. These also doe worship idoles as brutishly as the Daniel 14. in the Latin translation. Babylonians did Bel, and set vp the images of saint Anthony, and saint Dominicke and other saints vp­on altars, as the Babylonians did their god Bel. finally they burne incense to their idoles, and crouch to them, and of­fer sacrifices before them, as the idolatrous priests did be­fore Bel. There resteth therefore nothing to make them all like to Bels priests, but, now their fraudes and cousinages and idolatries and impieties are discouered, that some ze­lous prince would doe with the popish priests of Baal in England and other places, as the king of Babylon did with the priests of Bel in his country. and that would make an end both of the whole controuersy, and of this idle fel­lowes brabling.

6 Likewise under the title of his booke hee set­teth downe this verse. Hierom 14. falsely saieth the Lord doe the pro­phets prophesie in my name. I haue not sent them, nor com­manded them, nor spoken to them. they prophesie unto you a lying vision, and diuination, and fraud, and the deceipt of there owne heart. whereby it seemeth he was hired, to speake shame and reproch of his owne most lewd companions, comming directly from antichrist, and not from Christ; of the church of Rome, that in liew of Gods word readeth fables and lying legends; and of the pope, that in his lying decretales brocheth the deceits of his owne heart, neither can this prophesie be expounded of any so fitly, as of the false priests of Baal, that come with faculties from the pope without any one word of authority, or lawful mission from God; and that prophesie lying visions of the restoring of the idolatrous religion of papists, and preach the fancies [Page] and deceits of there owne hearts, out of their masters con­ie [...]turall and false dictates. I know he aimeth at vs. but ha­uing chosen this sentence for an ornament of the front of his lying pamphlet, he must be content to take it to him­selfe, and must for any helpe he shall haue of vs, necessarily be forced to apply it to his friends, where it is best deser­ued.

7 Talking of suposed falsifications he saith, three things make a falsary: first changing of the trueth into falshood, se­condly craft and malice, and lastly domage or hurt. and to proue his words true, he alledgeth the names of Hostiensis and Panormitan: two ancient canonistes. but vnlesse he acquit himselfe the better, in talking of falsification it will be proued, that he hath falsely alledged these two authors. no man certes euer talked more simply of falsity, and falsa­ries, then this falsary. for, not either change of trueth into falshood, is falsity, no albeit it be craftily done, & with de­triment to some person (for then should euery malicious and hurtfull liar be a falsary also; and the authours and ap­prouers of the Romish legends and breuiaries should also be notorious falsaries, hauing told many grosse malicious lies to the great slander and hurt of religion) nor hath our aduersary rightly defined a falsary. for a falsary is he, that in writings addeth or detracteth, or altereth any thing fraudulently, as appeareth by the glosse in c. in memoriam. dist. 19. and as the Romanistes shew themselves to be by their expurgatory indexes. but saith our detractor in the margent, in the french copy printed by Hierome Verdussen it is so. but this is contrary to the text. beside that, we are no more ro beleeue the print of Hierome Verdussen, then of Iulian Greenesleue. if our aduersary will make such crakes, he must bring vs better authours then Hierome Verdussen, or the popish reporter of the conference betwixt M. Ple­su, and Eureux. is it then likely, that our aduersary should [Page] conuince vs of falsification, that albeit himsefe commit­teth many grosse falsifications, yet knoweth not what this word meaneth? which may also appeare in this, that he chargeth me with falsification in the first and second place noted page. 47. & 51. where I doe not so much as al­ledge any writing, or any mans words, but onely quote Augustin and Epiphanius in the margent, to shew that my assertion may be proued out of their writings.

8 His metaphors, and profound allegoricall speeches he vseth to draw from womens rocks. as though saith he, he had not towe inough to his rocke. which sheweth that this companion is better seene in womens rockes and frockes, then in any point of diuinity. beware therefore you of the cacolicke crew, that such gallants come not neere your wiues, daughters, nor maids, that they play not with you a tricke of their cacolicke religion, if you beleeue not me, beleeue Palingenius, that would haue such mates excluded out of mens houses, that meane to keepe their women chast.

9 And although this is the mans great simplicity and weaknesse; yet would he needs incounter at one time M. Willet, and me both together. nay, as if we were nothing in this giants hands, with great arrogancy he setteth also vpō M. Thomas Bell, a man while he was yet a popish priest, a­mong them accounted the most learned, sufficient and graue man among their company, and now well knowen by his learned workes not answerable, at the least not an­swered, to haue much profited since. but what is it, that our wise aduersary obiecteth, that he should cry out so loud against Master Bell? what is the Gordian knot, that he supposeth to be insoluble? forsooth, because he saith, that the bishops of Rome, vntill the daies of Saint Augustine, and long after, were very godly men, and taught the same doctrine, that Saint Peter had done before them: and yet affirmeth also, [Page] that pope Syricius was seduced by Sathan, published wicked doctrine & taught the flat doctrine of the divel; & that pope Sozimus brought in superstition, and falsified the decrees of the Nicene councell. so to mainteine the vsurped primacie of the Church of Rome. as if M. Belles propositions might not well stand together. for he saith not, that all the bishops of Rome were good and godly men, and taught true doctrine vntill S. Augustines time; but speaketh indefinitly of the bishops of Rome without adding, all; which maner of speech in materia contingenti, is not to be taken absolutely and vniuersally, but for the most part. and so no doubt saint Augustine speaking of the bishops of Rome vnder­stood it, knowing that Marcelline sacrificed to idoles, and that Liberius was an Arrian. and we may say also, that the apostles of Christ were good men, although Judas was a traitor, and lanterne bearer to the Iewes, as some popish writers say, that betraied Christ, and much of the nature and condition of this detectour of falsifications, and detractor from honest men, and a very lanterner of Antichrist, and a traitour to his countrey. let him therefore beware he be not taken passing through backe dores, like the idolatrous priests of Bel, and so for his gordian knot, be taken tied in a Tyburne knot.

10 I need not say much of our adversaries forme of writing, or frame of sentences. for it appeereth euery where, that he did not know the difference of pneuma, and periodus; nor could distinguish betwixt colons and periodes, commaes and colons. his whole discouse is liker to nothing that I can imagine, then to the way betweene Chard and Honiton in the west countrey, that is, rude and rugged, vp hill and downe hill, and very vnequall. but to let that passe, yet may I not passe in silence, that Praefat. fol. 1. speaking of the great commanders and princely pilots, that sit at the sterne of the common wealth, he seemeth to communicate her Maiesties [Page] souereigne authority to inferior persons, and doth not once vouchsafe to acknowledge her princely power, or to name her among the governors of this state. and yet such disloiall traitors, that acknowledge the popes supreme au­thoritie, and deny her Maiesties power, as being excom­municate by the popes scuruinesse, (our fellow percase would say holinesse) are not sought out, nor brought to such a triall, as their offences deserue.

By this therefore it may appeare, that, as our aduersary hath no ability to disproue any point of religion, which we hold, so he hath vtterly shamed his consorts, and the crew of papists, that hitherto haue made great brags of this their champion, & of his inuincible arguments, all hard & knot­ty, like the haft of a dougeon dagger. he hath also vtterly shamed himself in medling with these matters, being a mā not read, nor any way fit to discourse, or handle matter of cōtrouersy: the which, that it may further appere, I purpose, god willing, not only to iustify my former chalenge, which this poore menowe would nibble at, but also to discharge my selfe honestly of all those vntruthes and falsifications, which the detractor maliciously goeth about to charge vpon me. Wherein, that I may proceed more formally, & not onely skin this dead dog, whose ouerthrow shall helpe vs nothing, but handle somewhat else, that may make for the aduantage of true religion, and the instruction of the ignorant; The order and chiefe propositi­ons, & chapters of the discourse ensuing. I wil, God willing, declare, first that the church of Rome that now is, and which embraceth the doctrine of the pope and conuenticle of Trent, is not the true church of Christ Iesus. and secondly, that the doctrines and traditions of the Romish church, which the church of England refuseth, are meere nouelties and late deuised fancies, for the most part. thirdly, that the papists are no true catholikes, nor hold the ca­tholike faith, and that it is a great wrong offred to Christes church to call them catholikes, vnlesse it be, as we call dead [Page] carcases, men. fourthly, that papists mainteine many both old & new haresies and points of doctrine contrary to the word of God, and to the catholike faith. fifthly, that they are idolaters. finally, that such as haue died in the popes quarrell in England were vnnaturall traitors, and no true martyrs, and that such priests also as come from Rome with commission and faculties from the pope, are traitors and enemies to their prince and countrey, and so to be reputed and taken, and not otherwise. All which points, one or two excepted, I handled in my last challenge, this challenge thus iustified, I shall God willing presently encountre our detractor, and answer first his obiections concerning vntruthes: secondly his quar­rels concerning supposed falsifications: thirdly his vaine & childish obseruations. and to shew the vanitie of our aduer­saries pleading, and how much the papists are to shunne all conferences, and disputes concerning lies, and falsificati­ons; I will also for further euidence against them set down, first certeine notorious lies, and forgeries committed by the popes and church of Rome: and next such lies and for­geries, as are committed by their principall agents. and heerein first I will declare Bellarmine to be most guiltie in this point. the next place shall conteine Baronius his cardi­nall leasinges. after them I will note certeine notorious lies and forgeries conteined in the writings of other pa­pists, yea of Parsons himselfe, and of this Momus, in his new nothing, which he calleth a detection of lies and falsificati­ons. finally to answer his obseruations, I will also discourse of such things as in our aduersaries, and their writings seeme woorthy to be obserued. and all this, to let our ad­uersaries know, that they had more need to defend them­selves, then to presse vs; and to take the beames out of their owne eies rather, then to espie motes in our eies.

As for his railing words, & rustical & vnciuil behauiour, I leave to be censured by the archpriest in his next gene­rall [Page] synod: which if he doe not, I will referre him over to be answered by master Kempe vpon the stage. and if he de­sist not his railing and rusticalitie either vpon the arch­priests admonition, or master Kempes censure; I assure him, I will set a fellow to answer him, that shall so currie him and his consorts the papists, and that shall in such sort tippe vp their vilanies, that the whole fraternitie of asses shall curse him for braying so vnciuilly. I hope also, that some odde priest or other, out of his grammer dictates will admonish him, to looke better to his grammer rules, and tell him, that he hath falsified a verse out of Horace, and made a grosse fault in it. This is the onely verse in the booke. for where Horace saith, quid dig­num tanto feret hic pro missor hiatu: our wise Pag. 4. aduersarie hath, quid dignum tanto proferet promissor hiatu: both alte­ring his authors words, and committing a fault in the verse, and marring the sence.

His reprochfull termes omitted, and his small errors pardoned, there is nothing in his pamphlet, which I haue not answered, and, I hope in that sort, that he shall not be able to take iust exception against any thing I haue said or done. it may be, that he will be offended, for that not being able to speake by letters, and finding his name to be E. O. I doe name the baby somtime detector, or detractor, somtime ectaticall owliglasse. I haue great reason to doe it. for I doe perceiue, that he is a desciple of Robert Parsons, who in his pamphlet of reasons, for not going to church, cal­leth himselfe Iohn Howlet. what then can be more conso­nant, then that his disciple, that goeth about to imitate him in his pride, railing, and phrase of speech, though very vnhandsomly, should be called Owliglasse alias Howly­glasse, and ectaticall, that is leapt out of his wit into a lit­tle fit of foolery? if he like not this name, then let him set downe his owne name, and for my part he shall not heare worse then his name, vnlesse his faults deserue it.

Both this challenge, and the answere to the detractors ex­ceptions, presuming vpon thy indifferency I recommend to thy reading. much I will not request at thy hands, and small fauours are easily granted. Examine, I pray thee, both my answere, and my aduersaries obiections, and yeeld to neither side more then is prooued: compare his great brags, with his poore talent of writing, and his scornefull termes with his slender matters, and thou shalt easily per­ceiue, that short answeres may serue such simple argu­ments. it may be, that thou and I differ in opinion. yet neuer refuse to yeeld to trueth; nor resolue to defend dis­loialty or errour.

I haue, as thou maiest see, dealt plainly, and professe o­penly, that I will not mainteine any error, whereof I can be conuinced. if the aduersarie would take the same course, there might be an end of this contention. Rob. Parsons be­ganne this quarrell, albeit he hath first giuen it ouer. the ground of his pleading standing principally vpon the title of ancient and catholike religion, and the innocency of mas­sing priests, and friers, and their consorts, I gaue him a short issue in my former chalenge, and offered to proue, that popish religion established in the conuenticle of Trent, and now receiued by the church of Rome, is neither ancient, catholicke, nor true. if they cannot proue them­selues to be catholicks, why doe they entitle themselues ca­tholickes? if their relsgion be new, why doe they bragge of antiquity? if they be haeretickes, why are they not asha­med, to take to themselues the praerogatiues of the true church? if the Iebusites and rheir consorts be combined with forrein enimies, what reason haue they to challenge the fauour due to subiects?

Vpon occasion of an ecstaticall fellowes importunity, I doe renew the same challenge againe, and by all meanes prouoke Robert Parsons to answere. and because percase [Page] he is busie comploting of matters against his country at Rome, I addresse it also to Frier Garnet and the archpriest Blackewell, that are neerer at hand, and not vnaquainted with the worthy volume of exceptions lately published a­gainst me. If Parsons haue not laisure, let one of them an­swere. it is a shame to begin a quarrell, and to giue it ouer first. for one bout they haue no reason to refuse me. if they pretend want of books and laisure, they know Doway is not farre off. They haue begon to crie out of falsifications and untruthes, let them therefore make triall, how they can answere for themselues. Parsons was woont to be ready to plead for others. now therefore he hath no reason but to plead for himselfe. In time past he and that false traitor Allen filled mens eares with their clamours, contra persequu­tores Anglos. let them therefore defend their consorts, that are preditores Angliae, & enimies to their country. no man hath greater cause to defend traitors, then traitors. If they refuse to answere for themselues, or to satisfie o­thers, I hope for modesty sake hereafter, they will neither arrogate to themselues the title of the church, nor the shelter of catholicke religion, neither can they with ho­nestie vant of antiquity, or accuse true men of heresie, whereof themselues are most guilty. finally if shame re­straine not their tongues, yet feare of punnishment may keepe them in temper, being declared to be professed eni­mies to their prince and country, & a packe of rinegned english cōspiring with the enimies of this state, & combi­ned together for the ouerthrow of religion & the realme.

If my aduersary and his consorts shall no way be able, though otherwise willing inough, to cleare themselues of most malitious libelling, lying, and forging, I trust they wil hereafter spare me, a plaine fellow, and one that no way standeth in need of such poore shifts for the iustification of my cause. And I doubt not, but with shame inough [Page] they will for euer hereafter cease to make any challenge concerning lies and falsifications, hauing so euill successe in this first incounter.

If I haue cleared this state from all imputation of iniu­stice in the proceeding against Iesuites, seminary priests, popish rebels and their adherents; neither haue the ma­gistrates reason to suffer Robert Parsons his libels to flie abroad to the slander of the state, nor any good subiect to allow of his calumniations, and most wicked libels.

If it doe clearely appeare, that Robert Parsons and his trecherous consorts are linked and combined with foraine enemies, and by no meanes will submit themselues to her Maiesties lawes and authoritie, those that haue the custo­die and execution of her lawes, committed vnto them, I doubt not, will haue a watchfull eie ouer the proceedings of such slippery companions, and with great constancie and resolution mainteine hir Maiesties authority, and exe­cute her lawes against such as wilfully impugne it. the late edict published against this vermine, doth shew that the state is not onely well acquainted with their leud prac­tises, but also resolute to punish such wicked practisers, and plotters, as hitherto haue abused her Maiesties great clemency toward them.

If it appere that the Iebusites and priests teach haeresie, and lies, it behooveth all true christians to auoid them. Saint Iohn in his second epistle doth giue vs warning not to haue any familiaritie with them, or so much as once to bidde them God speed. the church Apocal. 2. of Thyatira is reproo­ued for permitting a wicked false prophet to teach and se­duce Gods people. and our sauiour Matth. 7. Christ giueth vs war­ning of false prophets, that come vnto vs in sheepes clo­thing, and inwardly are rauening woolues. these false masse­priests deuoure many widdowes houses, and abuse the [Page] simplicity of many yoong youthes to their vtter ruine and destruction. and yet that is not the woorst. for they do not onely ouerthrow their worldly states, but also destroy their soules, and lead them headlong into hell.

If the popes agents vnder pretence of religion haue in­tangled their folowers in diuers practises of faction and treason, I hope all English, albeit otherwise fauorers of po­pery, wil better looke, how they engage themselues in trea­son. they come from forreine enemies, and depend vpon them; and though they talke of religion, yet their intenti­on is wholy for the pope and Spaniard, and their course is irreligious and factious.

If popish religion founded in the conuenticle of Trent, and taught by late popes and their proctors be catholike, and ancient, then will it be an easie matter to shew it, and to answer our obiections, where we prooue the contrary. if our aduersaries flie triall, and will not ioine with vs, and directly answere; then haue all papists and others, reason to flie from such false teachers, and heretikes, and to aban­don all their wicked haeresies. there is no agreement be­twixt Christ and Belial, 2. Cor. 6. betwixt trueth and error, light and darknes. if they can shew themselues, that they are no ido­laters, they will cleere themselues: if not, why do they seeke to erect altars of Baal in euery corner? and why doe not all Christians auoid to communicate with the priests of Baal in their idolatrous masse? 2. Cor. 6. there is no agreement be­twixt the temple of God and idoles, neither 1. Cor. 10. can any drinke the Lords cuppe, that doth participate at the table of diuels, or di­uelish masse. but what should I talke of the Lords cup, when these idolatrous priests take the Lords cup from all that follow them?

If the aduersaries be cleare of lying and falsification; then will they answer plainly and directly, as I haue answe­red [Page] them. if their lies and forgeries be made notorious to the world, he is not very wise, that will trust such lying and forging companions.

But what should I need to declare that briefely, which at large is prooued in the discourse following? reade onely diligently, and examine carefully, and iudge indifferently. and so leauing thee to thy meditations, and referring thee to the touch of both our aduersaries accusations, and our answers, I beseech God to giue thee true vnderstanding of his sauing trueth. and that hee will giue thee grace, if thou knowest the trueth, to perseuere constant vnto the end: if thou cariest a preiudicate affection towards pope­ry, then to see into the deformities, impostures and abu­ses of popish religion: and that in the end it will please him, to discouer all fraudes, impostures, conspiracies, trecheries and vilanies of the popish faction, and to let thee see the damnation of the great whore, and the abomina­tions of Babylon. Adieu.

Thine in all Christian affection, MATTH. SUTCLIFFE.

A CHALLENGE concerning the malignant church of Antichrist, and false doctrine, and lewd practises of Papists, Directed to Rob. Parsons, Frier Garnet, G. Blackwell the Arch­priest, and all their ad­haerents.

CHAP. I. That the Church of Rome that now is, and that embraceth the doctrine of the Pope, and conuenticle of Trent, is not the true Church of Christ Iesus.

THe Church of God being 1. Tim. 3. the house of God, and Ibidem. the pillar and ground of trueth, and Galat. 4. the mother of all faithfull people, as the Apostle teacheth vs; it is no maruell, if all congregations, that professe Christian religion, do also chal­lenge to themselues the name, and title of the Church. Inst. lib. 4. c. vlt. Singuli qui (que) haereti­corum coetus, saith Lactantius, se potissimum Christianos & suam esse catholicam ecclesiam putant. euen the couenticles of hereticks doe imagine themselues to be true Christians, and entitle their Congregations by the name of the Catholike [Page 2] church. and that this is true, the papists affoord vs most eui­dent proofe. for albeit in many points they know not the voice of Christ Iesus, but follow a stranger, that without all colour challengeth to himselfe to be Christs vicar; yet very confident­ly and proudly they call themselues Christes true catholicke church, and challenge to themselues all those prerogatiues, that are due to his most holy spouse. neither do they only chal­lenge to themselues the title and name of the Church, but also exclude all others from the same: and as Leo said, speaking to certeine monkes of Palestine, ecclesiae nomine aduersus ecclesiam armaminï: so we may well say of these blinde ze­lators of popery, that in the name of the Church, they fight a­gainst the true Church of Christ Iesus.

That the papists adhering to the pope of Rome, and imbra­cing the doctrine of the conuenticle of Trent, are not the true church of Christ Iesus, it may be prooued by diuers inuincible reasons. argument 1 for first the church of Christ is built onely vpon Christ Iesus, as a principall rocke, and a foundation most sure and im­moouable. No man, saith the 1. Cor. 3. Apostle, can lay any other foun­dation beside that, which already is laied, which is Christ Iesus. for he is that Isai. 28. corner stone, that is placed in the foundation of Sion. he is that Matth. 16. rocke vpon which the church is built. Super hanc petram, quam confessus es, saith S. Serm. 13. de verb. Dom. Augustine, super hanc petram, quam cognouisti, dicens, Tues Christus filius Dei, aedificabo ecclesiam meam, id est, super meipsum filium Dei viui aedificabo ecclesiam meam. he saith the church is built vpon Christ Iesus, whom Peter confessed. neither doe the fathers meane otherwise, where they affirme the church to be built ei­ther vpon the confession, or faith of Peter, or els vpon Peter himselfe. for all these doe either indirectly vnderstand Christ, whom Peter confessed, or Peters faith concerning Christ. but the Romish church that now is, is built vpon the pope, and vp­on his Sée and doctrine. Est Petri sedes, saith In praefat. in lib. de pontif. Rom. Bellar. lapis probatus, angularis, pretiosus in fundamento fundatus. he Lib. 2. de pontif. Rom. saith also, that the Pope is the foundation of the building of the church, and goeth about to prooue it by certeine words of Hierome, although that good Father neuer thought of any such matter. Sanders his rocke of the church. Sanders doth endeuour to proue, that the Popes of Rome are the vnmouable rocke of the church. Turrian like­wise [Page 3] because Christ said, aedificabo ecclesiam meam, &, non aedi­fico ecclesiam meam: concludeth, that the popes of future times, and not onely Saint Peter were vnderstood by that rocke, vpon which the church is built. seeing then the church of Rome is built vpon a foundation diuers from the foundati­on of Christ his church, and relieth vpon the pope as much, or more, then Christ Iesus; it cannot be the true church. for if the papists say, that Christ is the chiefe foundation, and the Pope is the next, they crosse the scriptures, that make Christ the sole foundation, and onely attribute the name of foundati­on to the apostles and prophets, in that they built all vpon Christ Iesus, and taught that, which immediatly they receiued from God. but the Pope receiueth nothing immediatly from God, nor doth he now preach Christ, as did saint Peter.

argument 2 Further, the true church of Christ is built vpon a rocke most solide and vnmouable, against which the gates of hell can neuer preuaile. but the church of Rome is built vpon the popes and their see, against which the gates of hell both haue already, and may further preuaile: as appeareth by the Ch. Si papa. dist. 40. where it is supposed, that the Pope may draw with him innumerable soules into hel. and In Matth. 16. Lyra confes­seth, that diuers popes haue proued apostataes from the faith. and that finally is proued by diuers particular examples, as of Marcellinus, that sacrificed to idoles, of Liberius, that fell into Arrianisme, of Honorius condemned for a monothelite, and di­uers other popes, that fell into diuers heresies, and forsooke the true faith. neither doe I thinke the papistes will denie, but that some of their popes for diuers impieties and wicked­nesses are damned, and cast downe to the nethermost hell. How then can that be the true church of Christ which is built vpon a foundation, against which the gates of hell haue pre­uailed?

argument 3 Arg. 3. The true church of Christ is neuer without her head. for Christ Iesus, who is the head of the church was yesterday and to day, and the same for euermore. he is the head of the church, and shall alwaies so continue, and of him his church hath continuall dependance. but the church of Rome is often without her head the pope, and hath no such dependance on him, but that she may well subsist without him, as the continu­all [Page 4] vacation of the papacy doth shew, and Lib. de auferri­bilitat [...] papa. Gerson doth con­fesse. the church of Rome therefore cannot be the church of Christ, vnlesse we will grant, that the church of God may be without a head, or that the church of Rome neuer wanteth a head.

argument 4 Arg. 4. The church of God also hath but one faith. for as there is but one Lord, Ephes. 4. so there is but one faith, and one baptisme. but the faith of the church of Rome is not that one faith, which was professed in the apostles times, and in the primitiue church, as appeareth by the doctrine of faith published in the wicked conuenticles of Constance and Trent, and by ihat pro­fession which Pius the 4. decreed to be exacted of all that are promoted in schooles. for neither did the first christians admit all the traditions, which the church of Rome now calleth apo­stolicall, nor the 7. sacraments and vsuall rites practised by the church of Rome in the administration of them, nor the sacrifice of the masse, or transubstantiation, or the rest of the doctrine therein contained. if any papist thinke otherwise, let him shew me, either any such like faith, or proue me any such doc­trine to haue bene in the ancient church of Rome. or else we must needs beleeue, that this doctrine was first published by the conuenticle of Trent, and by Pius the 4. by name, but a wicked man for doctrine and life, and by other popes confirmed.

argument 5 Arg. 5. The grounds also and foundations of the catholike chri­stian faith are diuers from the grounds & foundations of the faith of the church of Rome. the Ephes. 2. apostle saith, that the hous­hold of God and citizens of saints are built vpon the foundati­ons of the apostles and prophets, Iesus Christ being the chiefe corner stone. neither doeth he admit any other foundation. Saint Apocal. 21. Iohn sheweth, that the wall of the city of God hath twelue foundations, and in them the names of the twelue apo­stles. and this, because vpon that doctrine, which they deliue­red, the faith of the church is built. for as Lib. 3. aduers. haeres. c. 1. Ireneus signifieth, the canonicall scriptures which she apostles left vnto vs, are the foundation of our faith. neither may we thinke, that Peter was more the foundation of the church then Paule, or the rest of the apostles. at dicis, super Petrum fundatur ecclesia, saith Lib. aduers. J [...]ui [...]. Hierome licèt id ipsum in alio loco super omnes apostolos, & [Page 5] cuncti claues regni coelorum accipiant, & ex aequo super eos ec­clesia solidetur. Theophylact also without giuing any prero­gatiue to one, saith, In Ephes. 2. the church is built vpon the apostles and prophets. neither doe the auncient fathers either allow, or mention any foundation beside Christ Iesus, and the apostles and prophets, who in all their writings doe preach Christ Ie­sus. But the faith of the Romish synagogue is now built vpon a diuers foundation. for first they acknowledge vnwritten traditions, to be a foundation equall to the written word of God. Sess. 4. concil. Trid. traditiones ipsas tum ad fidem, tum ad mores pertinen­tes, tanquam vel oretenus à Christo, vel à spiritu sancto dicta­tas, & continua successione in ecclesia catholica conseruatas pari pietatis affectu ac reuerentia (scilicet ac scripturas sacras) sus­cipit ac veneratur. the conuenticle of Trent maketh traditions as well concerning faith, as maners, to be equall to the writ­ten word of God. whereof it foloweth, that we must as well beléeue the fashions and ceremonies of the Romish church, as the written word of God. Demonstrate conabimur saith Lib 4. de verb. dei. c. 4. Bel­larmine, scripturas sine traditionibus nec fuisse simpliciter ne­cessarias, nec sufficientes. he denieth also the scriptures to be a perfect canon, or rule of our faith without traditions. next they receiue the popes decretals, and vpon their determinations doe they build their faith: as C. inter. dist. 19. &c. sancta. dist. 15. appeareth by their decretals, though counterfeit. and Jn praefat. in relect. princip. doctr. Stapleton sticketh not to affirme so much in expresse words. Alij nunc à Christo missi saith he, eo­rumue doctrina, praedicatio, determinatio fundamenti apud me locum habebunt. and ibidem. againe, Christianae religionis fun­damentum habemus ab ipsis literis euangelicis & apostolicis a­liud. We haue saith he, another foundation of Christian reli­gion, diuers from the writings of the apostles and prophets. can then the Romish congregation be the church of Christ, that euen in the maine foundation of religion is departed from the church of Christ?

argument 6 Arg. 6. The principles likewise of ye doctrine of the Romish church are diuers frō the grounds & principles of Christs true church. for we haue shewed in our last argument, that the true church hath no canon or rule of faith, or certeine principle of faith, be­side the canonicall scriptures. but the church of Rome admit­teth the books of Iudith, Tobia, Ecclesiasticus, Wisdome, of the [Page 6] Machabees by the ancient church accounted apocryphal, as In epist. ad Paulin. in prolog. in prouerb, Hierome, In Synops. Athanasius, and diuers of the ancient fathers [...] witnesse. It alloweth also the old latin translation of the bible, though different from the originall bookes. the same also ad­mitteth for principles of faith, the sentences of popes, the doctrine of the Romish church that now is, the traditions of the Romish church, the consent of fathers, and diuers other grounds, as Stapleton disputeth in his bookes, De doctrina­libus principijs.

argument 7 Arg. 7. Neuer certes did the church of Christ speake euill of scrip­tures. Lib. 3 aduersus haeres. c. 2. Irenaeus saith, It is the property of heretikes, when they are conuinced by scriptures, to fal into dislike of them, and to accuse them. as for the children of God, they cannot either calumniate, or lightly estéeme their heauenly fathers testamēt, or refuse to heare his voice. but the scriptures conteine a de­claration of the eternall testament of our heauenly father; and therefore they are rightly called his testament. in the scrip­tures also God speaketh vnto vs. and therefore, if we be Christs sheepe, we cānot but hearken to his voice. My sheepe, saith our Iohn 10. Sauiour, heare my voice. but the Romish church is still carping at scriptures, as if they were neither sufficient, nor perspicuous. Lib. 4. de verl. die c. 4. Bellarmine saith, they are neither necessa­rie, nor sufficient without traditions. Praefat in re­ [...]act. princip. doctr. Stapleton denieth them to be a sufficient foundation, or rule of our faith. the authors of the annotations vpon the Rhemish testament doe call them most blasphemously, a killing letter, and signifie that the rea­ding of them is pernicious. Censur. colo [...]. others slander them, as if they were a nose of waxe, or a matter and subiect of contention.

argument 8 The church of God neuer called the bishop of Rome ei­ther a god on the earth, or Christes vicar generall, or vniuersall bishop. but the church of Rome admitteth all this. the cano­nists exalt him like a god. Epist. ad Gre­gorium 13. ante princip. doct. Stapleton calleth him supremum numen in terris. generally they call him vniuersall bishop, and condemne all that hold contrary.

argument 9 The church of God doth kéepe the doctrine of the apostles and prophets, Gal. 1. without addition, alteration, or corruption, and the apostle pronounceth him accursed, Aduers. haeres. c. 34. that teacheth any other Gospel, than that which he taught. Vincentius Lirinensis saith, that this is the propertie of catholicks, to kéepe the faith and [Page 7] doctrine of the fathers committed to them in trust, and to con­demne prophane nouelties. Catholicorū, saith he, hoc ferè pro­prium, deposita sanctorum patrum & commissa seruare, dam­nare prophanas vocum nouitates, & sicut dixit, & iterum dixit apostolus, si quis annuntiauerit, praeterquam quod acceptum est, anathematizare. but the papists kéepe not entire the origi­nall writings of the olde and new testament, nor allow them as authenticall, neither will they yéeld the canonicall scrip­tures to be a perfect and sufficient rule of faith, nor doe they al­low the law of God to be a perfect law, nor doe they kéepe Christes institution in the Sacrament of the Lords supper, di­stributing the kinds of bread and wine to the communicants, but haue vnto this rule added vnwritten traditions, and the determinations of popes concerning matters of faith. they haue also encreased the numbers of Sacraments, and added many precepts and rules not receiued in the Apostolicke church.

argument 10 The true Church can not endure hereticks and false apo­stles, that teach doctrine contrary to the faith of Christ, and do­ctrine of Christes apostles. Christ Iesus speaking of his shéepe, saith, They will not follow a stranger, but flie from him: for that they know not the voice of strangers. The apostles gaue vnto Christians a speciall charge concerning this point. If there come any vnto you, saith S. Epist. 2. Iohn, and bring not this do­ctrine, receiue him not to house, neither salute him. Tantum a­postoli, & horum discipuli, saith Lib. 3. aduers. haeres. c. 3. Irenaeus, habuerunt timorem, vt ne (que) verbotenus communicarent, alicui eorum qui adultera­uerant veritatem. Let vs separate our selues, saith Cyprian, as farre from them, as they separate themselues from the church. The true church certes can not embrace erroneous doctrine, neither can any heretiks be accounted Christians. Si haeretici sint, saith De praescrip. aduers. haeret. Tertullian, Christianiesse non possunt. But the Papists communicate with hereticks, as Liberius, Felix, Vi­gilius, Honorius, Iohn the 22. and 23. whom in my treatise De pontifice Rom. I declared to be heretiks. they do also embrace the heresie of Angelicks, in worshipping angels; of the Colly­ridians, in worshipping the blessed Virgin; of Marcion, Va­lentinus, and others, in denying Christes true bodie in the Sa­crament to be solide and palpaple; of the Pelagians, in magni­fying [Page 8] their merits and the force of frée will; of the Carpocrati­ans, in burning incense and worshipping the images of Iesus and Paul; and diuers others, as we shall héereafter particu­larly declare.

argument 11 The true Church of Christ admitteth not the apocryphal legends of S. George, Cyricus and Iulitta. for these are con­demned by the censure of Gelasius, who testifieth, that the olde Church of Rome receiued not any such legends. but the latter Church of Rome, and papists of our time doe admit these le­gends, and out them they gather their traditions, which they make equall to the word of God.

argument 12 The Church of God is the mistresse and teacher of trueth, and admitteth no falshood, nor vntrueth the apostle doeth call her the pillar and ground of trueth. Est fons veritatis, saith Instit. diuin. lib. 4. c. vlt. Lactantius, speaking of the church, hoc est, domicilium fidei. that is, she is the fountaine of trueth, she is the house, where true faith dwelleth. but the church of Rome, that now is, is not on­ly a receptacle of leud opinions, but also the mother and mi­stresse of lies and vanities. and so Petrarch for aboue two hun­dred yéeres doubted not to call her. Madre d'errori, e, tempio d'haeresia, saith he. which authoritie albeit they regard not, yet the same which he auoucheth, is prooued first, in that the church of Rome auoucheth lying traditions: as for example, the tradition concerning Ember fasts, and fasts vpon Saints vigiles, concerning the ceremonies of the masse, concerning the words, & aeterni, & mysterium fidei, thrust into the words of consecration of the challice, and such like. secondly, the same approoueth lying and forged decretals, as for example, C. Con­stantinus. dist. 96. and c. ego Ludouicus. dist. 63. and c. quis nesciat. dist. 11. & infinit more of that nature. thirdly, the same giueth credit to Caesar Baronius his most lying and fabulous narrations, and the popes haue commended them by solemne decretals: although we doubt not, but to make the vanitie of them appeare partly in this discourse, but farre more at large hereafter. finally, the same admitteth most lying legends, and now and then permitteth them to be read publikely in the church. as for example, the legends of Catherine, Clement, Gregory called also Thaumaturgus, Peter Martyr a domini­can, S. Catharine of Siena, S. Christopher, and diuers others. [Page 9] in the legend of S. Catherine, In breuiaer. Ro. in fest [...] Catharinae. they write, that she was a mai­den of Alexandria, and so well learned, that at the age of eigh­teene yeeres, she passed the most learned, and in dispute ouer­came fiftie Philosophers, and that also she conuerted Faustina the empresse, and Porphyrius a captaine of the emperors, to the faith. they say also, that she broke the tormenting wheele with her praiers, & that after her death her body was buried in mount Sinah by angels. in the feast of S. Clement in the Romish bre­uiary, we read that Clement Peters successor was by Traian sent into the wildernesse of Let Parsons tell vs, where this is. Cersona, and that there he saw a lambe make a well to sally out of the top of the mountaine, and that he being cast into the sea with a millstone about his necke, the sea fled three miles from the shore, and that in the very same place a little chappell was found in the sea, where his body was bestowed. On the festiuall day of Gregory of Neocesaria the church of Rome In breuiar. Rom. appointeth his legend to be read, where it is said, that he caused the riuer of Lycus to keepe within the chanell, by planting his staffe on the banke, and that his staffe grew presently into a great tree. in the rituall books of Sarum, we read that Gregory the first deliuered Traians soule out of hell, which if it were true, why is it now crossed out of the new bookes: if false, how hapeneth it, that the church of Rome so long beléeued that tale? I'n breuiar. Rom. in fest. Petr. Mart. Peter Martyr one of Dominickes order, as they write, & I thinke beléeue, did keepe his virgini­ty both in body and minde, and in that sort, that he neuer felt himselfe defiled with any mortall sinne: they tell vs, also, that he did fast so long, that he could scarce open his mouth to eat. They tell vs further many wonders of Saint Nicolas, Valeri­an and Tiburtius, Lucia, Christopher and other saints. in the Historia Lou [...] ­bard. del volto santo italic. legend of Ieames of the colepit (for else I cannot tell how to English Iacobus de Voragne) we read, that a certaine picture of our sauiour, did lift vp his foot, and cast off his slipper to a certaine pilgrime, that deuoutly stood before it, and would haue offred somewhat, having nothing to offer. Of Saint Catherine of Siena they say, that she was betrothed to our sauiour Christ. all which points are very incredible, and not to be found in any authenticall writing. If then the church of Rome publish and teach these fables and lies; then is she no mistresse of trueth, but of lies. if Robert Parsons will say, they [Page 10] are no lies, I would pray him to declare vs the trueth out of authenticall histories.

argument 13 The faith of Gods true church cannot be built vpon any vncertainty, or vntrueth. for faith is an argument certaine, or an euidence of things not seene. est fides saith the Hebr. 11. apostle, sperandarum rerum substantia, argumentum non apparentium. and it is built on Christ Iesus, that is trueth, and on a rocke, that is unmouable. neither neede we long profes for this point. for the aduersaries themselues confesse this to be true. Nihil, saith Thomas Aquinas, cadere potest sub fide, nisi in­quantum stat sub veritate prima, sub qua nullum falsum stare potest. and afterward he saith, quod fidei non potest subesse aliquod falsum. if then the faith of the church of Rome be grounded on falshood; then is it no true faith. and if that churches faith be no faith; then is not that church the true church. but that the faith of the church of Rome is built vpon diuers false positions, it may easily be proued. for first the same beleeueth, that the traditions of the church of Rome are either descended from Christ or the apostles for the most part, and namely such as concerne the canon and ceremonies of the masse, fastes, praiexs for the dead, praiers to saints and such like secondly it beleeueth all the determinations of popes con­cerning faith and manners to be true and infallible, as for ex­ample, that it is necessary for euery christian to be subiect to the Pope, that he hath power to depose kings, to giue power to cutthrotes, to kill kings, to dispense with the vncle to marry his neece, with the brother to marry his brothers wife, and such like. thirdly, that church beléeueth what is contained in the breuiary and missale, as for example the stories, or rather le­gends of Saint Christopher, Saint George, Saint Catherine and such like. finally, the same must beléeue whatsoeuer the Pope shall determine to be, de fide. But among such traditions, determinations and legendes, there are diuers both false and ridiculous fables. neither can it be denied, but that the Pope, hath determined, and may also determine falsely and contrary to the faith. and this is shewed in my bookes de Pontifice Rom. at large. Lib. 4. de pontif. Rom. and cannot be denied, unlesse Robert Parsons can prooue vnto vs, that all the Popes decretales concerning matters of faith and maners, and all the traditions of that [Page 11] church, and all legendes are true: which to him will be a mat­ter of some difficulty.

argument 14 The church of Christ is bounded within the limits of the holy canonicall scriptures. habet vrbes legis, prophetarum & euangelii, saith Saint In Mich. lib. 1. c. 1. Hierome. and againe, non est egressa de finibus suis, id est de scripturis sanctis. he Ibidem. c. 7. saith also, that it is the property of heretickes, to flie to mens commandements and the leauen of the pharisees. S. Lib. 19. de ciuit. Dei. c. 18. Augustine also concureth with him and saith, that the city of God beleeueth the holy scriptures, that are called canonicall: but of other reports, he saith, she doubteth. but the church of Rome will not be boun­ded within the limites of holy scriptures, neither will she ac­knowledge the canonicall scriptures to be a perfect rule of faith. the same also from scriptures flieth to vnwritten tradi­tions, and is much soured with the leauen of the pharisées, and mixture of Popish and Iewish ceremonies deuised and established by men. finally the same doth rather, or at the least as soone, beleeue the determination of the Pope, as the letter of holy scriptures. for in the Pope, Stapleton placeth the chiefe authority of the church, and last resolution for matters of faith.

argument 15 The Church of Christ neuer burned the scriptures. no, al­beit there were errors in the Gréeke translation of Theodo­sion, and Symachus, and the seuentie interpreters, and in all the Latin translations, the vulgar and olde edition not excep­ted z yet did the true church neuer burne the scriptures. for that was practised by Dioclesian and other persecuters of the church, and by heathen men, rather than by any, that carried the name of Christians. but the church of Rome hath caused Gods holy word to be burnt vnder pretence of false translati­ons, which notwithstanding she was neuer able to prooue to be false. she doth therefore plainly declare her selfe to be the sy­nagogue of Satan, and not of Christ.

argument 16 The true Church did neuer prohibit the scriptures to be publikely read in such tongues, as the people of God were able to vnderstand: nor did she euer condemne them, and burne them for hereticks, that read them in vulgar tongues. for our sauior commanded his apostles to teach all nations. and no question, but it was lawfull to teach them as well by writing, [Page 12] as by word. In Psal. 86. S. Hierome saith, that scriptures do not only be­long to priests, but also to the people. Non scripserunt, saith he, speaking of the holy apostles, paucis, sed vniuerso populo. and our sauiour, where he commanded his auditours to search the scriptures, meant, that it should be lawfull for all to read them. finally, what is more vnreasonable, séeing the scriptures con­teine Gods holy lawes, and his eternall testament, than that the lawes of God should not be red in a knowen tongue, and that it should not be lawfull for children to vnderstand their heauenly fathers testament and last will? but the Romish con­gregation prohibiteth the scriptures to be publikely read in vulgar tongues, and Index libr. prohib. à Pio 9. prohibiteth all translations, but such as themselues set forth, which are most wicked & peruerse. The bloody inquisitors haue also burned diuers poore people for rea­ding scriptures in English, as appeareth by the Registers of Lincolne and London in king Henry the eighth his daies. Fi­nally Nauarrus a braue Romish doctor teacheth, that it is mortall sinne for a lay man to dispute of religion. Laicus dis­putans de fide, saith In primum praecept. c. 11. Nauarrus, peccat mortaliter.

argument 17 Our sauior Christ Iohn 4. teacheth vs, that all true worshippers, do worship God in spirit and trueth. Venit hora & nunc est, saith our sauior, quando veri adoratores adorabant patrem in spiritu & veritate. And God by his prophet Isay 29. & Matth. 15. Isay doth condemne his people, that honored him with their lips, their hearts being farre from him. The apostle also Coloss. 2. would not haue Christians condemned, in respect of meat, drinke, and holy daies; and reprooueth those that make decrées concerning tou­ching and tasting, and such like ceremonies. he doth also vt­terly 1. Cor. 14. condemne praiers in a strange language, and not vn­derstood of those that vse them. but the worship of God which the papists vse, and most commend, doth wholly consist in ex­ternall ceremonies, as knocking, lifting vp of the Sacrament, censing, lights, and such like. they also rather honor God with their lips, then their hearts not vnderstanding what they say, & thinking, that to gaze on the masse, is to serue God. finally, they haue many decrées concerning meats, drinks, saints daies, and also concerning touching and tasting, and such like. is it not then apparent, that they are no true worshippers?

argument 18 The Church of Exod. 20. Christ doth worship but one God, accor­ding [Page 13] to this commandement, Thou shalt haue no other gods but me. and according to the words of Matth. 4. Christ, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serue. but the papists worship the images of God, as God himselfe, and giue as much honor to the image, as to the originall. Cum Christus, saith P. 3. q. 25. art. 3. Thomas Aquinas, adoretur adoratione la­triae, consequens est quod eius imago sit adoratione latriae ado­randa. Séeing as Christ is honored with diuine worship, saith he, it followeth, that his image is also to be worshipped with diuine worship. and friers in their sermons speaking to the crucifix, are wont to say to it, Thou hast redeemed vs, thou hast reconciled vs to thy father: which Bellar. de cult. imag. lib. 2. c. 23. Bellarmine himselfe can not deny. he confesseth also, that images may be worshipped with that honor, that is due to the originall. Admitti potest, imagines posse col [...] improprie, vel per accidens, eodem genere cultus, quo exemplum ipsum colitur. they also worship the Sa­crament with diuine worship, and fall downe before it. but neither are images, gods; nor is the Sacrament, God. Fi­nally, they confesse, that the worship of seruice, or doulia, is due to saints. and this they wil not deny. how then can they shew, that they worship and serue one true God?

argument 19 The catholike church only, saith Instit. 4. c. vlt. Lactantius, doth reteine the true worship of God. neither can any society be termed Gods church, which reteineth not Gods true worship. but the papists doe not reteine Gods true worship. for first they wor­ship God according to the doctrines and commandements of men, which our Sauiour Matth. 15. Christ condemneth. secondly, they giue diuine honor to creatures, as we shewed in our last argu­ment. thirdly, their worship consisteth principally in the sacri­fice of the masse: which is nothing els, but a masse of many su­perstitions, impieties and blasphemies: as I haue shewed particularly, and largely in my treatise of the masse against Bellarmine.

argument 20 The true church of Christ beléeueth, that Iesus Christ is per­fect God, and perfect man; and that Christ Iesus is ascended vp into heauen, and sitteth at the right hand of his father. for these two points are articles of our faith: the first being in termes conteined in the créed of Athanasius, the second being expressed in the apostles créed. but the papists attributing to [Page 14] Christ in the sacrament such a body, as is neither visible, nor palpable, and can neither sée nor féele, nor helpe himselfe nor others, being oftentimes deuoured by mise and other brute beasts, cannot shew, how these qualities can be in a perfect man. neither can they shew, that a perfect man is both in hea­uen and in earth, and in many places at once: or that the flesh of Christ can be properly in heauen and earth, and not onely beléeued, but also apprehended with mens hands and téeth. Cōtr. Eutyth. lib. 4. c. 4. Vigilius saith, that the flesh that is in heauen, is not in earth. Fulgentius writing to Thrasimundus, saith, that the bodie of Christ hath the properties of a true body. De resur. carn. Tertullian teach­eth vs, that the body of Christ is in the pallace of heauen. nei­ther may we suspect, that he supposed, that Christs body might at the same time be in earth. Saint Lib. 10. in c. 24. Luc. Ambrose saith, that we touch not Christ with corporall handling, but by faith: and that we are not to seeke him on the earth, nor after the flesh, if we will finde him. finally, the scriptures and fathers do teach vs, that Christ is so ascended into heauen, that we doe not en­ioy him héere on the earth according to his bodily presence: as I haue declared at large in my treatise against Bellarmine con­cerning the reall supposed presence of his body in the sacra­ment.

argument 21 The true church beléeueth, that we are iustified by faith in Christ Iesus, and not by the works of the law. arbitramur iusti­ficari hominem saith the Rom. 3. apostle, per fidem sine operibus legis. & Rom. 4. si qui ex lege haeredes sunt, exinanita est fides. & this is the faith likewise of the fathers. Dial. 1. contr. Pelag. tunc ergo iusti sumus, saith Hierome, quando nos peccatores fatemur, & iustitia nostra non ex proprio merito, sed ex dei consistit misericordia. and that we are not iustified by charitie, or by our works, it may be prooued by the testimony of saint Epist. 29. ad Hieronymum. Augustine. plenissima cha­ritas saith he, quae iam non possit augeri, quamdiu hîc homo viuit, est in nemine. quamdiu autem augeri potest, profectò illud quod minus est, quàm debet ex vitio est, ex quo vitio non est qui faciat bonum, & non peccet. neither may we suppose where the fathers doe speake of iustice of workes, that they meane any other iustice, but such as declareth vs iustified, and which, without remission of sinnes, cannot stand before God. but the papists both beléeue and teach contrary, as appéereth [Page 15] by the Sess. 6. actes of the Trent councell, and friuolous disputes of Lib. 4. de iu­stific. c. 10. & seq. Bellarmine who endeuoureth to shew, that man is able to fulfill the law, and that our works doe iustifie vs. whereup­on it followeth, that contrary to the apostles intention, we are iustified by the law, if he say truely.

argument 22 The true church also beleeueth, that we are not to boast, or glory of our works: and that the reward of sinne is death, and that eternall life 's the gift of God. Si Abraham ex operi­bus iustificatus est, saith the apostle Rom. 3. habet gloriam, sed non apud deum. and Rom. 6. stipendium peccati mors, gra­tia autem dei vita aeterna in Christo Iesu domino nostro. like­wise the scriptures shew, that when we haue done all we can, we are to acknowledge our selues to be vnprofitable ser­uants: and that our sufferings are not woorthy of the glory, that is to be reuealed. and this the church of Christ also belée­ueth, and hath from time to time beléeued. tua peccata sunt, saith Augustine in Psal. 70. merita dei sunt. supplicium tibi de­betur, & cum praemium venerit, sua dona coronabit, non me­rita tua. and Hilary in Psal. 51. non illa ipsa iustitiae opera suf­ficenrent ad perfectae beatitudinis meritum, nisi misericordia dei etiam in hac iustitiae voluntate humanarum demutationum, & motuum non reputet vitia. but the papists hold, that we may trust in our works, as appeareth by Bellarmines dispute, lib. 5. de iustific. c. 7. and say, that all sinnes doe not deserue death, and that eternall life is due for our works.

argument 23 The true church doth acknowledge no head of the vni­uersall church, but Christ alone, which is also the Sauiour of his body. Christ saith the Ephes. 2. apostle, is the head of the church, & he is sauior of his body. neither is the title of head of the vni­uersall church due to Peter. Peter the apostle saith Lib. 4. epist. 38, ad Joan. Constantinop. Gregory, is the first member of the holy catholike church, and Paul, An­drew, and Iohn, what are they but heads of diuers parishes? and yet all are members of the church vnder one head. Saint De agon. Christ. & in Psal. 9. Au­gustine saith, that Christ Iesus, that is the mediator betwixt God and man is head of the church. but this title of media­tour onely belongeth to our sauiour. Yet the Romish church doth acknowledge the pope to be her head: and In gloss. in c. vnam. de ma­ior. & obed. Bertrand blas­phemously saith, that Christ had not beene discreet, if he had not left a vicar generall behind him. and this doth Praefat. in lib. de pontif. Rom. & lib. 2. de pontif. Rom. c. 31. Bellarmine [Page 16] very well allow, and prooue it to be due to the pope. is that congregation then the true church, that hath either two heads, or a head beside Christ Iesus?

argument 24 The true church is not built vpon the pope. for the church was before there was either pope of Rome, or chiefe priest among the Iewes. but the church of Rome doth acknow­ledge the pope to be her rocke and her foundation, as appea­reth by Bellarmines preface before his treatise de pontifice Rom. and doth take the pope to be her foundation. Lib. 2. de pon­tif. Rom. c. 31. Bellar­mine among other the popes titles doth reckon this for one, that he is fundamentum aedificii ecclesiae, that is, the founda­tion of the building of the church.

argument 25 The true church is Christs faithfull spouse. Oseae 2. God speaking to his church saith, sponsabo te mihi in fide. the church also being Christes spouse harkeneth to him alone, and of him is most dearely beloued. en dilectus meus, saith the Cantic. 2. church, loquitur mihi, surge, propera amica mea, columba mea, for­mosa mea, & veni. Cyprian saith that the church cannot be drawne to like of an adulterer: adulterari non potest, saith De vnit. ec­clesiae. he, Christi sponsa, incorrupta est & pudica. but the Turrecrem. lib. 2. c. 28. & Aquin. in 4. sent. dist. 38. church of Rome doth acknowledge the pope of Rome to be her spouse; and Lib. 2. de pon­tif. Rom. c. 31. Bellarmine doth mainteine, that the pope is iustly enti­tuled, the spouse of the church. and that this is not without the allowance of the pope it may appeare by the popes owne C. intercorpo­ralia. de trans­lat. episc. &c. quoniam. de immunit. ec­clesiae. wordes, where he challengeth this title of spouse to be due vnto him. and yet I hope he will not say of the church, spon­sabo te mihi in fide: nor, propera amica mea, columba mea: nor doth the true church say of the pope, en dilectus meus. what then resteth, but that the church of Rome should be the whoore of Babylon, Apocalyp. 1.7. out of whose cup the nati­ons of the earth haue drunken so many abominations, and that the pope should be the louer and spouse of this adulterous and vnchaste congregation.

argument 26 The true church of Christ is not necessarily tied to the obe­dience of the church of Rome, nor neuer was subiect to his de­cretaline lawes. quae sursum est Hierusalem, saith the Galat. 4. apo­stle, libera est, quae est mater nostra. so likewise are her children. for it is a rule of law, if the mother be frée so likewise are her children. but the church of Rome is necessarily tied to the obe­dience [Page 17] of the pope. C. Vnam san­ctam extr. de maiorit. & o­bed. Boniface the 8. determineth, that it is a point necessary vnto saluation, to be subiect to the pope. and Lib. de eccles. milit. c. 2. Bellarmine doth exclude all out of the church of Rome, that liue not vnder the subiection of the pope. finally, it is the com­mon opinion of all papists, that such as acknowledge not the popes authority, are Ibidem. c. 5. schismatikes. is it not then manifest, that those that liue vnder the slauery of Antichrist are not the true church?

argument 27 The church of Christ hath but one iudge and lawgiuer, that is able to saue and destroy soules. vnus est legislator & index, saith saint Iacob. 4. Iames, qui potest perdere & liberare. but the church of Rome doth acknowledge the pope for a su­preme iudge and lawgiuer, and hold that his lawes are of power to binde the conscience, as Bellarmine teacheth his dis­ciples, lib. 4. de pontif. Rom. c. 16. and that is the common o­pinion of all casuistes, and the ground-worke of those, that worke on mens consciences. can this then be the true church, that liueth in such bondage?

argument 28 The true church neuer commanded christians to make publike confession of their sinnes to the virgin Mary, to the archangell Michaell, to saint Iohn Baptist, or to the holy apo­ples Peter and Paul, and to all the saints of heauen. the con­fessions of saint Augustine are extant and to be séene. so like­wise are there diuers confessions to be found both in the wri­tings of the fathers, and publike liturgies, and yet can we not finde any of this nature. nay in the forme of the masse, prescribed by Ordo Rom. cap. de forma celebrat. missae. an ancient order of the Romish church, we do not finde that forme of confession, that is now vsed. neither can Robert Parsons or Bellarmine, or any of that faction shew, that any christian was wont to say, confiteor deo omnipo­tenti, bea [...]ae Mariae semper virgini, beato Michaeli archange­lo, beato Ioanni Baptistae, sanctis apostolis Petro & Paulo, & omnibus sanctis. do they not therefore, that vse this forme in al their masses, shew, that they are not the true church, that ioine angels and saints with God, and séeme to confesse, that they know our sinnes, and that they are our iudges, and haue power to pardon our offences?

argument 29 Christs true church reteineth no sacraments, but such as Christ first instituted, and are declared in the apostles wri­tings. [Page 18] and that may be prooued by Iustines 2. apology direc­ted to Antoninus, by Dionysius supposed to be the Ariopagite, and all ancient formes of liturgies. for we doe not reade in any of them of more sacraments than two. but the popish congregation hath made euangelicall sacraments of matri­mony, order, and penance: of which, the first two were insti­tuted in the olde testament, and the third is an act alwaies necessarie for obteining of remission of sinnes, but neuer ac­counted a sacrament, as wanting a sacramentall signe, and also [...]ormall institution. they haue also made sacraments of confirmation, and extreme vnction, and giuen them both signes, & forms, which notwithstanding were neuer knowen in ancient time. are they therefore not likely to prooue a new church, that haue instituted diuers new sacraments?

argument 30 The ancient and true church of Christ neuer beléeued, that matrimony and order conteined grace in that sort, which the papists teach. neither did they beléeue to obteine iustification through confirmation and extreme vnction. but the popes church beléeueth, that these sacraments doe conferre grace ex opere operato, and that héerein they differ from the sacra­ments of the old law, for that the new sacraments doe worke iustification, and not the old. the first is apparent by Bellar­mines discourse de sacrament. lib. 2. c. 3. & sequent. the second by his dispute lib. 2. de sacrament. c. 12. & sequent. neither will any papist deny this. let them then shew, how men may be iustified by greasing and crossing in extreme vn­ction, and confirmation: or else they will appeare to be stran­gers to Christes church.

argument 31 The ancient catholike church did Can. apost. 10. & concil. antioch. c. 2. excommunicate such, as cōming to church departed before they receiued the communi­on. qui non perseuerauerint in oratione vs (que) dum missa peragi­tur say the canons, necsanctam communionem percipiunt, ve­lut inquietudines ecclesiae mouentes conuenit cōmunione pri­uari. the Romanistes themselues also C. peracta dist. 2. de consecrat. doe confesse that this was the ancient practise of the church. peracta consecratione, saith Anacletus, omnes communicent, qui noluerint ecclesiasticis carere liminibus. sic enim & apostoli statuerunt, & sancta Romana tenet ecclesia. & the same is also confirmed by the testimony of Iustine Mar­tyr [Page 19] apolog. 2. of Dionysius de eccles. hierarch. and other an­cient fathers. but the church of Rome now doth take them for good cacolickes, that will come to masse, and looke on. She doth not certes excommunicate any for not receiuing the com­munion. doth it not then appeare, that the Romish church is not the church of Christ?

argument 32 The church of Christ did neither vse, nor thinke it lawfull, to reserue the eucharist in pixes ouer euery altar, nor to cary the same about with procession, nor to light candles before the pixe, nor to bury together with dead bodies either the sacra­ment of Christes body, or the chalice. our sauiour Christ Matth. 26. & Luc. 22. & 1. Cor. 11. said, accipite, comedite, & bibite: that is, take, eate, drinke, and so forth. and the apostles and first christians did receiue, and not kéepe the sacrament in pixes. but the church of Rome doth quite contrary.

argument 33 The true church neuer prohibited those, that receiued the sacrament of Christes body, to receiue the cuppe also. neither did good catholickes abstaine from the cuppe hauing rerceiued the sacrament of Christes body. Serm. 4. de quadrages. Leo saith they were Mani­cheyes, that receiuing the sacraments tooke the body of Christ, but in no wise would drinke the blood of our redemtion. and this act he affirmeth to be sacrilegious. Gelasius also saith, that it is plaine sacrilege to diuide one and the same mystery, and re­ceiuing a portion of the sacred body, to absteine from the cup of the sacred blood. but the church of Rome doth expresly for­bid all communicants, beside the priest, to receiue the cuppe; and taketh this to be good religion. The papists also are well content to be depriued of the cup of the new testament, and thinke not the sacrament so mangled, to be imperfect.

argument 34 The true catholike church neuer taught, nor thought so basely of the most holy body of our Lord and Sauiour Christ Iesus, as that a mouse, a hogge, or dogge, or other creature eating the consecrated host, did also eat the Lords body, presse it with téeth, and swallow it downe into the belly. nor did the same imagine, that the Lords body might be throwen in the mire, and troden vnder féet, and throwne into places vncleane, and too homely to be named. but the synagogue of Rome beléeueth, that brute beastes may eat Christes bodie. If a dogge or hogge, saith P. 4 q 45. Alexander Hales, should eat a [Page 20] consecrated hoste, I see no cause, but the Lords body should go therewithall into that dogges, or hogges belly. some haue said, as it is in the third part of Thomas Aquinas his summe of di­uinity, that, as soone as the sacrament is taken of a mouse or a dogge, straightway the body and blood of Christ cease to be there, &c. but that is derogatorie to the trueth of this sacrament. it is also the common opinion of all papisticall doctors, that the body and blood of Christ so long continue in the sacrament, as the formes of bread and wine continue vncorrupt, and that they goe into all places together. vnlesse therefore Robert Par­sons or some other doe helpe héere, and shew, that the true church of Christ did beléeue and teach, as before is declared; both he, and his consorts must néeds confesse, that the Romish church is not the true church.

argument 35 The ancient catholike church had but one sacrifice, one al­tar, one priest, after the order of Melchisedech. the priest after the order of Melchisedech was Christ Iesus. he was also that sacrifice. the altar was his crosse. tu es sacerdos in aeternum saith God by his Psal. 109. & Hebr. 5. prophet, secundum ordinem Melchisedech. he, because he remaineth for euer, hath an eternall priesthood, as the apostle saith Hebr. 7. but the papists erect altars of stone, whereupon, they say, they offer their sacrifices. they be­léeue also, that their priests offer vp sacrifices, and that they are according to the order of Melchisedech, as if they had nei­ther father, nor mother, nor certeine genealogy, and were ho­ly and impolluted. doe they not then declare, that they haue erected a new congregation that is diuers from the church of Christ? neither is it materiall, that the fathers doe call the Lords supper or eucharist, a sacrifice. for they doe not so call it for other cause, but for that it is a memoriall of Christs sacri­fice on the crosse. Christ, saith Dedemon­strat. Euange­lic. lib. 1. c. 10. Eusebius, offred a most excel­lent sacrifice for vs all, and gaue vs a memoriall (or sacrament) thereof in stead of a sacrifice. Chrysostome writing vpon the epistle to the Hebrewes, teacheth vs, that our sacrifice is but a samplar, or memoriall of Christs sacrifice. and this Peter Lom­bard frankly confesseth. that which is offered and consecrated by the priest is called a sacrifice and oblation, saith Sentent. 4. dist. 12. he, because it is a memoriall, and representation of the true sacrifice, and holy oblation made on the altar of the crosse.

argument 36 The true church of Christ neuer erected more altars, then one in one church, nor did the same distribute the sacrament in diuers angles in one and the same church. aliud altare consti­tu [...] saith Epist. 25. pleb. vniuersae. Cyprian, aut sacerdotium nouum fieri, praeter vnum al­tare, & vnum sacerdotium non potest. likewise saith Epist. ad Philadelph. Ignatius, quod vnus sit panis pro omnibus confractus, & vnus calix toti­us ecclesiae. but the papistes haue alters in euery corner of their churches, and there diuers priests sing or say diuers masses, and offer sacrifices. there also they consecrate, and di­uide the sacrament, making a diuision, no lesse in their congre­gations, then in their altars, chalices, and sacrifices.

argument 37 The true church did neuer agree for trentales of masses, nor for aniuersary memorialles, nor sell the sacrament of Christes body. but the Romish priests take mony for tren­tales of masses, and without hire they will not make aniuer­sary commemorations. they sticke not also to sell Christs bo­dy, or at least their masses for mony. deteriores sunt Iuda, saith Onus ecclesiae c. 23. one speaking of Romish priests, alledging the authori­ty of saint Brigit, qui pro solis denariis me vendidit: illi au­tem pro omni mercimonio.

argument 38 Our sauiour Christ, and his apostles taught the church, that the sacrament of his body and blood was to be receiued, and eaten, and drunken. of which we collect, that it was a­uaileable onely for the quicke, that could receiue, eat, and drinke, and not for the dead, that could doe none of these things. neither did Christs church beléeue, that the Lords sup­per was satisfactory for paines in purgatory, or good against lightning and thunder, or such calamities. but the Romish church doth hold that their eucharistical sacrifice is propitiato­ry for the dead, as well as the quicke, & that the same is expia­tory, and doth worke diuers other woondrous effects. hoc sa­crificium saith De valore missae parad. 12. Guernerus, est expiatiuum debitae poenae tam hic, quam in futuro exoluendae. ibidem pa­rad. 9. he sheweth also, that the same worketh miraculous effects against thunder, danger of enemies, and other calamities, and that he, that frequenteth the masse, shall be directed in all things, which new doctrine, vnlesse Robert Parsons can prooue that it hath béene taught in the ancient church of Christ, will greatly endanger the state of the Romish church.

argument 39 In the true church of Christ, no priest euer tooke to himselfe so great presumption, as to become a mediator to God for Christ Iesus. for he is a mediator betwixt God and man: and méere blasphemy it is for a mortall man, to challenge to him­selfe to be a mediator betwixt God the father, and his sonne. but in the Romish church, the priest becommeth a mediator and intercessor for Christ. for speaking of the body and blood of our Sauior, he saith: In canone missae. supra quae, propitio acsereno vultu respicere digneris, & accepta habere, sicut accepta habere dig­natus es munera pueri tui iusti Abel, & sacrificium patriarchae nostri Abrahae. Vpon which saith he, vouchsafe to looke with a fauourable and pleasant countenance, and to accept them, as thou vouchsafest to accept the gifts of Abel, and the sacrifice of our patriarch Abraham. and afterward: iube haec perferri per manus sancti angeli tui in sublime altare tuum. Command these things, saith the priest speaking of the bodie and blood of Christ, to be brought by the hands of the holy an­gell vnto thy high altar. these things are blasphemous, and cannot be allowed of Christ his church. neither can Parsons or Bellarmine answere, that these words are found in the booke of sacraments attributed to S. Ambrose lib. 4. c. 6. for there is great difference betwixt the words of the canon of the masse, & the words of that author. and the meaning of him is cleane contrary. for neuer shall it be prooued, that the author of that treatise beléeued, that the body and blood of Christ was vnder the formes of bread and wine in the sacrament, or that he meant the body and blood of Christ, where he compareth the sacrament to the sacrifices of Abel and Abraham.

argument 40 The true church of Christ neuer added to the words of Christ in the consecration of the cup saying, noui & aeterni te­stamenti, mysterium fidei. neither are these words found in the old formularies of the liturgies of the church of Rome, as I haue shewed in my treatise of the masse against Bellarmine. doth not then this new tricke of the latter Romish church de­parting from the former, shew a manifest difference betwixt them?

argument 41 The true church did neuer offer the sacrament pro redemp­tione animarum suarum, neither did the same vse the comme­moration for the dead, as it is in the Romish missal, saying, [Page 23] memento domine famulorum, famularúm (que), qui nos praecesse­runt cum signo fidei & dormiunt in somno pacis. nay, this forme is not to be found in the olde formulary, which the Ro­mans vsed about fiue or six hundred yeeres agone. but now all In canone missae. Romanists do thus say and pray. if then Rob. Parsons could shew this forme, or any such prayers or words in ancient au­thors, he might doe a great pleasure to the church of Rome, that otherwise is like to proue the synagogue of Antichrist.

argument 42 The true church of Christ did neuer consecrate incense, nor say, In ordinar. missae. per intercessionē beati Michaelis archangeli stantis a dex­tris altaris incensi & omnium electorum suorum, incensum istud dignetur dominus benedicere, & in odorem suauitatis accipere. if Robert Parsons can prooue the contrary, let him do it, other­wise the Romish church will fall out, not to be Christes true church.

argument 43 The true church neuer had distinct masses, whereof some were ordinary, others proper for the times, others proper for saints, others for particular mens deuotions: as for example, for the election of the pope, for taking away schismaticall con­tentions, for time of warre, for time of sicknesse, and such other occasions. but the Missale Rom. Romish church hath masses for all these causes and occasions.

argument 44 The true church did neuer consecrate holy water, and say, exorcizo te creatura salis &c. and exorcizo te creatura aquae &c. vt fias aqua exorcizata ad effugandam omnem potestatem inimici, & ipsum inimicum eradicare & explantare valeas cum angelis suis apostaticis. it is not the true church therefore that doth practise these exorcismes.

argument 45 The Christian church doth not reteine the ceremonies of the Iewes, nor eat the Paschall lambe. for as the 1. Cor. 5. apostle saith, Pascha nostrum immolatus est Christus. but the In fine missa­lis Rom. Romanists according to the rules of their missal doe consecrate, and eat a Paschal lambe, and pray thus: Deus, qui per famulum tuum Moysem in liberatione populi tui de Aegypto agnum occidi iussisti in similitudinem Domini nostri Iesu Christi, & vtros (que) postes domorum de sanguine huius agni perungi praecepisti, ita benedicere, & sanctificare digneris hanc creaturam carnis, quam nos famuli tui ad laudem tuam sumere desideramus.

argument 46 The true church of God neuer formed any image of God [Page 24] the Father, or God the Holy ghost, or of Gods diuine essence. neither did the same euer set vp images in churches to be wor­shipped with lights, incense, kissing, crowching, prayers or o­ther such like ceremonies. the second commandement directly forbiddeth the making of grauen images to be worshipped, and districtly commandeth vs, that we should not bow downe vnto them. and that this commandement was direct against the worwip of images, the first Christians did well vnder­stand. Aduers. gen­tes. Arnobius saith, that they had no altars, nor temples, nor images, worshiped in open shew. ne simulachra quidem veneramur, saith Contra Cel­sum. lib. 7. Origen, quippe qui Dei, vt inuisibilis, ita & incorporei, formam nullam effigiamus. Lib. 2. diuin. instit. c. 19. Lactantius doubteth not to affirme, that there is no religion, where there is an image, and when images and pictures began to créepe into the chur­ches as an outward ornament, the councell of Eliberis, to pre­uent all inconueniences, forbad pictures in churches. Placuit, saith the Concil. Elib. c. 36. councell, picturas in ecclesia esse non debere, ne quod colitur aut adoratur in parietibus depingatur. such was then the religion of Spaine. Arnobius declareth, that Christians were not woont to worship the crosse. Cruces, saith Aduers. gen­tes. lib. 8. he, nec colimus, nec optamus. nay, Lib. 9. epist. 9. Gregory the first himselfe, albeit he would not haue images broken downe, yet would he not haue them adored or worshipped. and Ionas Aurelianensis, albeit a defender of images, yet writeth thus of them. Creatu­ram adorari, eí (que) aliquid diuinae seruitutis impendi, proh, nefas ducimus, huius (que) sceleris patratorem detestandum & anathe­matizandum libera voce proclamumus, saith De cultu i­maginum lib. 4. Ionas. but pa­pists fall downe before images, and giue diuine worship to the crosse and crucifixe. neither do they onely make the images of the Father and Holy ghost, but worship them. finally, they burne incense, knéele and pray to stocks and stones.

argument 47 The true church did neuer pray, or administer the holy sa­craments of the Lords supper and Baptisme in a strange tongue not vnderstood of the common sort. Si orem lingua, saith the 1. Cor. 14. apostle, spiritus meus orat, mens autem mea fine fru­ctu est. he saith, it is fruitlesse to pray in a tongue not vnder­stood. and reason teacheth vs, that this is true. for if God re­spect not the mouing of our lips, vnlesse our heart accord with our tongue, how can our heart accord, when we vnderstand [Page 25] not what our tongue vttereth? finally, the practise of the church teacheth vs, that a knowen tongue is to be vsed in pub­like praiers, and in the administration of sacraments, as the answers of the people to the priest in all ancient liturgies, and the testimony of Iustine Martyr apolog. 2. of Dionyfius eccle­siast. hierarch. c. 3. of Origen. lib. 8. contra Celsum. of Hie­rome in epitaph. Paulae ad Eustochium. and in his 17. epistle to Marcella. of Ambrose de sacramentis, and Cyrill catech. 5. and others doth declare. but the Romish church will haue no other tongue vsed in the common liturgy of the westerne church, and publike administration of the sacraments, but the latin, of which the vulgar people scarce vnderstand one word.

argument 48 The true church of Christ contenteth herselfe with the reli­gion first taught by Christ & his apostles. for vpon the foūdati­on of their doctrine is ye church built. and as Lib. 4. contra Marci [...]n. Tertullian saith, id verius, quod prius; id prius, quod ab apostolis. contrariwise, Aduersha­res. c. 26. Vincentius Litinensis saith, that is a tricke of heretikes, not to content themselues with the ancient rule of faith, but to seeke nouelties from day to day, and to desire to adde, to change, to take away. but the church of Rome first denieth the canonicall scriptures to be a perfect rule of faith. secondly the same is de­parted from the doctrine of the apostles. thirdly the same is bound to beléeue all determinations and decretales of popes concerning matters of faith. finally, that church hath added and changed the ancient faith.

argument 49 True christians neuer kissed the popes toe, nor admitted his outragious dispensations, or gréeuous lawes, nor were tied to beléeue, that the popes iudgement in matters of faith was vnfallible. but the Romish church thinketh it a great fa­uour to kisse his pantofle, and séeketh for dispensations at his hands; and beareth all his burdensome lawes, albeit not with out great grudging, as may appeare by Peter de Alliaco his treatise de reformatione ecclesiae, by Vllerstones petitions proposed in the councell of Constance, and diuers complaints both of English, French and Dutch. finally, if they doe not yéeld his iudgement to be infallible, then must they confesse, that the church of Rome is built rather on sand, than on a rocke.

argument 50 The church of Christ neuer beléeued, that the bishop of Rome could depose princes, & take their crownes from them, or that they could dispense with subiects for their othes of al­legeance to their liege princes. nay the apostles teach obedi­ence to princes: and Peter did rather exhort to obedience, then rebellion. the canons, that goe vnder the names of the Can. 83. apo­stles doe seuerely punish such, as doe speake reprochfully of princes and magistrates. and certes most vnlike it was, that euer king or prince would haue embraced christian religion, if the same had giuen power to bishops to depose them from their regall throne, and to subiects to rebell against their liege soueraignes. but papists doe beléeue and Bellar. lib. 5. de pontif. Rom. c. 6. 7. & 8. teach, that the pope hath power to depose kings, and to translate kingdomes from one to another. they also do beléeue, that he hath power to di­spense with the othes of subiects, & to command them to rebel. Howsoeuer the rest beléeue, pope In Bulla contra Elizabetham. Pius the fift most wickedly commanded her Maiesties subiects to take armes against her, vpon paine of excommunication, and the like insolency did In declarat eiusdem bullae. Sixtus quintus vse against her, being the Lords annoin­ted, and he being the greased and marked slaue of satan. both he, and Pius quintus doe wickedly raile against her, and the like course did that flagitious pope In bulla contr. Henric. 8. Paule the third take a­gainst her Maiesties noble father. and this is now the popes, and their agents most common practise to raise sedition a­gainst christian princes, and when they cannot otherwise doe hurt, like helhounds to barke against them, and to publish infamous libels tending to their dishonour and disgrace.

argument 51 The true church of Christ is also catholike, and compriseth all the faithfull of all times, and is not limited within any one countrey or nation. for our Sauiour Christ commanded his apostles to teach all nations. and in our créed we beléeue the catholike church. now this catholike church, as saint In psal. 56. Au­gustine saith, is spred throughout all the world, and conteineth not onely those, that are present, but those also, that are past, and are yet to come. but the Romish church is not catholike, neither doeth it conteine the Greekes or Africanes, or men of Asia, that for many ages past haue shaken off the yoke of anti­christ of Rome. further, it doeth not reach to the people of God before Christ. finally Lib. de eccle­sia milit. c. 2. Bellarmine doeth define those one­ly [Page 27] to be of the church, which liue vnder the obedience of the pope. this church therefore differeth much from the catholike church.

argument 52 The true church consisteth not of fierce lyons, nor of wolues nor tygers, nor such like wilde, and fierce beastes, but of sheepe and lambes, which learne of Christ, and are méeke, humble and gentle. these did Christ commit to Peter, and all godly pastors his successors, to be fed. and these are the members of his church, and not those cruell ones, that are more like to ly­ons, then shéepe. they shall not hurt nor kill, saith God by his holy Isai. 11. prophet, in all my holy mountaine. nay the force of Christes religion is such, that it maketh sauage and fierce peo­ple to become méeke and gentle. the wolfe saith the ibidem. prophet, shall dwell with the lambe, and the pard shall lie with the kidde. quis coegit barbaros, gentesque alias in suis sedibus, saith Lib. de incar­nat. verb. A­thanasius, immanitatem deponere, pacifica meditari, nisi christi fides & crucis signaculum? Optatus in his second booke against Parmenian, speaking of catholickes to heretickes, which of vs saith he, hath persecuted any man? can you shew or proue, that any of you hath bene persecuted by vs? But the Romish church doth consist of lyons, tygers, wolues, and inquisitors, popes, and friers more fierce and cruell then lyons, tygers, and wolues. their Extr. de hae­reticis per tot. lawes are most cruell, their executions not­withstanding passe both law, and reason. In the time of Charles the emperor the fift of that name, it is recorded, Meteran de Belgit. tumult. that aboue fifty thousand persons were condemned by sentences of inquisitors and iudges, and executed to death in the low coun­tries for the profession of their faith. In France, as the stories of that country declare, thréescore thousand christians without all order of law, and contrary to solemne othes giuen them by the king for their security, were most shamefully and treche­rously murdered and massacred for the profession of their reli­on, at the kings sisters mariage. Circiter sexaginta homi­num millia saith Hist. Nat. com. lib. 23. p. 508. Natalis Comes speaking of one onely massa­cre, committed anno 1572. variis in locis per illud tempus trucidata fuisse dicta sunt in Gallia. and so extraordinary was the fury of the papistes, that they spared neither age, sex, nor quality. vel puberes, vel impuberes, saith he, trucidati sunt, ne­que vllius sexus, vel aetatis, vel dignitatis habita est ratio. nei­ther [Page 28] may we thinke, that they haue shewed lesse cruelty a­gainst christians in Spaine, Italy, or Germany. as for the realme of England it hath sufficient experience of the aduersa­ries extreme rage and cruelty by the short and bloody raigne of Queene Mary.

And can any christian man notwithstanding endure, to nourish vp yong wolues, and tygers within our bosomes? The Apocal. 17. Romish harlot is drunke with the blood of the saintes, and hath her garments made red with the slaughter of inno­centes. that therefore which Optatus lib. 2. contr. Parmen. saith of the Donatistes, may with good reason be applied to papistes. Iacerati sunt viri, tractatae sunt matronae, in fantes ne­cati, abacti partus: ecce vestra ecclesia, episcopis ducibus, cruen­tis morsibus pasta est. for by the Romanistes many innocent christians haue bene tormented and murdered, women haue bene abused, infantes haue bene cut in péeces, women haue bene forced to loose their children: and they haue fedde them­selues with cruelty, and the popes of Rome and their agentes haue bene ringleaders in these cruell executions. they are therefore professed enimies, rather then members of Christes church.

argument 53 The catholicke church neuer shewed more fauour to Iewes and infidels, then to Christians, that misliked the pompe, ty­ranny, and corrupt doctrine & maners of the popes or bishops of Rome. for with her children the church dealeth like a kinde mother most mildely. she correcteth them, if they offend, gen­ly, and instructteth them carefully. contrariwise she auoideth those, that will not heare her admonitions, and conuerseth not with them. Christian emperors Hac valitura. C. de Iudaeis & Caell [...]olis. excluded the Iewes from all gouernment, and authority in the common wealth. ibidem. they did also restraine their insolencies with diuers sharpe lawes. the like Cod. de paga­nis, sacrif. & templ. course also they tooke with pagans and infidels, shutting vp their impious temples, and forbidding their sacri­fices and idolatries. but the Romish sinagogue doth procéede by a contrary course. for she massacreth and murthreth chri­stians resembling that vnnatural whore, that before Salomon would haue the childe in controuersy cutte in peeces. but the Iewes and wicked atheistes she nourisheth, so they meddle not with the popes scuruinesse. the popes by their inquisitors [Page 29] and executioners torment christians, and receiue tribute of Iewes, that dwell quietly in Rome. Onuphr. in Alexandr 6. Alexander the sixt re­ceiued Turks and Maranes into Rome, when the Spaniardes could not endure them in Spaine. and all popes shew more fauour to Turks, than to such Christians, as come within the reach of the Spanish, or popish inquisition.

argument 54 The true church neuer sought either by forgery and falsifi­cation of mens writings, or by lying and slandering to ad­uance the cause of religion. for trueth is sufficient and strong enough of it selfe, and néedeth not to be supported with falshood and lies. Among ancient Christians, false witnesses and slan­derers were so fare from being estéemed in the church, that they were quite excluded out of the church, as appeareth by the acts of the councell of Agatha, c. 27. and councell of Eliberis in Spaine, c. 73. & 74. but the church of Rome perceiuing, that she cannot preuaile by plaine trueth and honest dealing, goeth now about by suppressing of trueth, and forging of counterfeit canons and false writings, and by all maner of vntrueths and slanders to abuse the ignorant and simple multitude. the scrip­tures, as much as she can, she suppresseth in vnknowen lan­guages, and corrupteth by making the olde Latin translation authenticall. she deuiseth and spreadeth abroad false traditi­ons, and setteth out falshood vnder the names of false canons, and constitutions, vnder the name of the apostles, false canons of councels, counterfeit treatises set out vnder the name of Origen, Athanasius, Ambrose, Nazianzene, Hierome, Chry­sostome, Augustine, Epiphanius, and other fathers, forged de­cretale epistles vnder the names of Clement, Anacletus, Eua­ristus, and other ancient bishops of Rome, that were neuer ac­quainted either with such matters, or such a stile. Of late time, most audaciously the Popes agents haue taken vnto them power to put out, and to put in, and to change what they list in mens writings; of which forgery, their expurgatorie indexes do plainly conuince them. Bellarmine, he with all his witte wresteth scriptures and fathers, to serue his cause. Caesar Baronius out of Simeon Metaphrastes, Iacobus de Vo­ragine, Surius, and such like fabulous legends, hath sent vs from Rome whole cartlodes of lies. To help him, Alanus Co­pus, or rather, Harpsfield, Alfonsus Ciacone, and diuers po­pish [Page 30] companions, haue set out diuers notorious and ridiculous fables. finally, to disgrace the trueth by slanderous accusati­ons of such, as haue shewed themselues forward in defence of it, the popish faction hath hired Sanders, Robert Parsons, Cres­wel, Cope, or rather Harpesfield, Genebrard, Surius, Cochleus, Stapleton, Allen, Ribaldineira, Bolsecus, Laingius, and other such like sycophants, to raile aswell against princes, as inferi­our ministers. can this company then be the true church, that delighteth in lying, slandering, railing, cogging and plaine forging?

argument 55 That cannot be the true church, that offereth sacrifice to o­ther, then the true God, that made heauen and earth. qui sa­crificat dijs eradicabitur, praeterquam domino soli, saith Exod. 22. God to Moyses. S. De ciuit. Dei. lib. 10. c. 4. Augustine saith, that God only is to be serued with sacrifices of praises, and thankesgiuing, and to haue the worship of Latria, done to him. Iohn, Apocalyp. 22. fell downe, vt adoraret ante pedes angeli: that is, that he might worship before the feet of the angel. but the angel forbad him, and said, vide ne feceris. see thou do it not. and afterward, Deum ado­ra. The papists also confesse, that the worship of sacrifices is due to God alone. Sacrificium, saith Lib. 1. de missa. c. 2. Bellar. est externa oblatio facta soli Deo. he addeth superfluously the word externa. for if we may not offer externall sacrifices to creatures, much lesse may we offer our internal deuotions and sacrifices vnto them. But the Romish church doth offer the sacrifices of incense, of praiers and thanksgiuing, not only to God, but also to angels, to the virgin Mary, and to other saints. In their Letanies they call vpon the virgin Mary, vpon the angels, vpon saints, they confesse their sinnes to them, and yéeld them thanks for benefits receiued. neither do they offer incense only to saints, but to their images either planted on the altar, or néere vnto it. finally, they confesse, that they say masses in the honour of the virgin Mary, of angels, and saints, and giue latriam or so­uereigne worship, not to God onely, but also to the images of God the Father, God the Sonne, and God the Holy ghost; to the images also of the holy Trinitie, and of the crosse. Of their Agnus Dei they Caerem. lib. 1. c. 7. say, Peccatum frangit, vt Christi sanguis, & angit. and when they consecrate a crosse, they pray, that as the world was deliuered from the guilt of sinne by the crosse of [Page 31] Christ, so those that offer to the new made crosse, by the merit of the same, may be acquited from all sinne.

argument 56 The true church neuer vsed the mediation of others, then of our Lord, and sauiour Christ Iesus. the 1. Tim. 2. apostle teacheth vs that there is but one mediator betwixt God and man, the man Christ Iesus. but the Romish church hath gotten to it selfe a packe of mediators, and doubteth not to entitle the blessed vir­gin the mediatrix betwixt God and man. Hist. p. 3. Tit. 23. c. 3. Antoninus wri­teth, that on a certaine time Christ sitting at the right hand of his father, rose vp in fury, purposing to destroy all sinners from the earth, but that he was intreated by his mother to stay vntill such time, as she had sent forth Dominicke and Francis to preach in the world. neither can that trite and ab­surd distinction of some sophisters, excuse the papistes, that they accknowledge one onely mediatour of redemtion, and vse to pray to saintes, as mediatours of intercession. for first the scriptures and fathers allow no mediators, but such as are mediators of redemption, and not onely of intercession, and therefore that title of mediator the scriptures giue onely to our Sauiour, as appeareth by the words of the apostle 1. Tim. 2. and Hebr. 9. & 12. where our sauiour is called the mediator of the new testamnet. and Saint Lib. 2. contra parmen. c. 8. Augustine where he dissal­lowed the title of mediator in Parmenian doth not deny, that the pastor may intercede and pray for his flocke, but that he may be called a mediator. and his Ibidem. reason is, quia vnus, verus­que mediator est: which excludeth all men, whether aliue, or dead from this title of mediator. secondly the papistes in their blasphemous canon doe make priestes mediators not onely of intercession, but also of redemtion. where they say, qui tibi of­ferunt hoc sacrificium landis pro se, suisque omnibus, pro re­demptione animarum suarum. thirdly they so pray to angels, and saintes, as if we could not come to Christ, but by them but our sauior doth immediatly call men to himselfe, and teacheth vs to pray to the father in his name. and Saint In Rom. 1. Ambrose saith, that to obtaine Gods fauour we need no spokesman, but a deuout minde. Chrysostome likewise, homi­nes, saith De poenit. homil. 4. he, vtuntur atriensibus: in deo nihil tale est; sine mediatore exorabilis est. and in another place De profectu enang. nihil tibi pa­tronis opus est apud deum. neque enim tam facilè deus audit, si [Page 32] alij pro nobis orent, qùam si ipsi pro nobis oremus, etsi pleni si­mus omnibus malis. fourthly they so pray to angels and saintes, as they giue men to understand, that they are present in all places. for to Saint Francis, Saint Dominicke and o­ther saintes they pray in Italy, Spaine, France and other coun­tries. they also signifie, that they vnderstand their heartes, and deuotions. but this is proper to God onely, to be in all places, and to search mens heartes; and the same belongeth to no creature, vnlesse we will ascribe diuinity vnto them. fiftly they in their litanies to saintes, and angels, haue such formes of praiers, as in the ancient church of Christ was no time v­sed. in the masse they pray to God, that by the merites and praiers of saintes in all thinges they may be protected by Gods helpe. at other times they pray to saintes, not onely to pray for them; but to defend them, and helpe them. finally they call vpon such persons, as we haue iust cause to doubt, whether they be saintes: as for example, traitors executed for their of­fences, and friers and monkes odious for their superstitions. in the first ranke commeth Thomas Becket, and Campion and his fellowes. in the second Francis, dominicke, Clare, Rocke, Catharine of Siena, and such like. vnlesse therefore Robert Parsons and his consortes can proue these formes of intercessi­on to haue bene vsed in the church of Christ, it is a great haz­ard, but he will proue himselfe and his fellowes not to be of the church.

argument 57 In the true church of Christ we neuer read nor heard, that christians vsed to scourge themselues before crucifixes, and o­ther images publikely, or in their chambers of meditations priuatly: or that they cried out before their images and cru­cifixes. but we read, that the priestes of Baal cut themselues, so that the blood followed, and that they cried mainly vpon Baal. we read also, that the priestes of Cybele in honor of their god­desse were wont to cut themselues. they say also, that in the Indiaes there are certaine priestes, that lash themselues before their idoles. are not then the papistes that scourge themselues before their images, and in their chambers of meditations liker to Baals priestes and ethnikes, then to the children of God?

argument 58 In the church of Christ sinners doe penance in their owne [Page 33] persons. in the Romish church they thinke it sufficient to scourge themselues, and to doe other offices of penance by de­puties.

argument 59 In the true church of Christ the bishops of Rome gaue forth no indulgences, nor iubelies, nor did take on them to dispence Christs and the saints merits by publike charters, nor gaue pardons of hundreds of daies, or yéeres. is it not then the false church, that taketh this power vnto her?

argument 60 The true church is a societie of faithfull people vnder law­full pastors. for as the Ephes. 4. apostle saith, our Sauiour Christ hath giuen pastors and teachers for the worke of the mynistery, & for the aedification of his body, vntill we all meet together in the vnitie of faith, and acknowledging of the sonne of God, vnto a perfect man. Lib. 4. epist. 9 Cyprian saith, that the church is a people vnited to their bishop, and a flocke adhering to their pastor. est ecclesia, saith he, plebs episcopo adunata, & pastori suo grex adhaerens. so likewise saith In dial. ad­uers. Lucife­rianos. Hierome, quod ecclesia non est, quae non habet sacerdotes. and this we are taught by rea­son, that there ordinarily can be no church, where there is no ministery to gather a church, nor a family of Gods children, where there are no pastoral fathers to beget sons to God. But the Romish church hath long wanted true bishops & priests, and of late time haue not any, that deserue to be entituled ei­ther bishops or priests. where, least any fond cauiller should mistake me, as a certeine A detection of vntrueths and falsificati­ons. disciple of antichrist hath done of late, I doe giue them to vnderstand that my meaning is not to deny them to be the church, that haue ministers or bishops faulty for life, or defectiue in the execution of their office, but onely those, that haue bishops and priests without lawfull or­dination, and that doe not at all execute the office and functi­on of a pastor or bishop. and because the synagogue of Rome hath onely such priests and bishops, as want lawfull ordina­tion, and vtterly cease to execute pastorall functions, I saie that the same cannot be the true church of Christ.

I say then that Romish priests haue no lawfull ordination, because they are ordeined first by heretikes, by excommunicate and simoniacall persons, which the canons doe prohibit to lay hands on any, and disallow such as are ordeined by them. that the popes of Rome, and bishops ordeined by them are si­monicall [Page 34] persons, it appeareth by the practises of the conclaue in election of popes, by the compacts made betwixt the pope, and such as he ordeineth, by the testimony of the conscience of papal creatures, and publike writings. Lib. de schism. Theodorick a Niem testifieth against Boniface the 9. and others, and saith, that Boniface sold the same benefice to diuers, and when he lay a dying bought and sold, and said he should doe well, if he had money. Vllerstone in his petitions crieth out of the simony of his time. that was a cause also of the complaint of the Ger­maines in their grieuances. venalia nobis saith Mantuan

Templa, sacerdotes, altaria, sacra, coronae,
Ignis, thura, preces, coelum est venale, deúsque.

that they are heretikes, it shall be prooued by the seuerall here­sies, old and new which the church of Rome holdeth.

Secondly they are not ordeined lawfully, because they are not ordeined to teach and administer the sacraments, but to offer sacrifices for the quicke and dead, as appeareth by their Machab. in lib. de missis episcop. pro or­dinib. formularies of ordring priests. Lib. de sacra. ord. c. 9. Bellarmine likewise con­fesseth, that this is the due forme of ordring priests. respondeo saith he, sacerdotes ordinari, cum illis dicitur, accipe potesta­tem sacrificium offerendi. this ordination I prooue to be vn­lawfull, first because it conteineth no commission for the prin­cipall point of apostolicall or priestly function, and next because it giueth them an office of sacrificing for quicke and dead, which is more then belongeth to their charge, or was execu­ted by the apostles or ancient bishops of the church.

Thirdly they are ordeined by bishops, that haue themselues no due ordination being sent abroad by antichrist, rather to suppresse the trueth, then to teach the trueth. now euery man well vnderstandeth, that no man can giue orders, but such as haue receiued orders.

Finally they are most of them vncapable of ministeriall function, and can neither teach, nor administer the sacraments duly, and if they were able, yet doe they not teach Gods peo­ple, but rather by their masses and confessions draw them to superstition and disloialty.

That the Romish church hath no true bishops, it is to be pro­ued both by the same and other reasons, first no heretikes haue power to ordeine others. but the pope is an heretike, ergo, the [Page 35] first the aduersaries will not deny. the second we shall prooue by diuers arguments in his proper place. secondly we haue declared, and the world knoweth that the popes of Rome are simoniacall persons: of which it also followeth, that they haue no power to ordeine pastors. thirdly, Antichrist hath no pow­er to ordeine pastors in Christes church. but that the pope is Antichrist, and the head of Antichrists kingdome, I haue de­clared in my fift booke De pontifice Rom. fourthly, he that is no bishop, can not ordeine bishops. but I haue declared, that the pope is no bishop. and it is euident, for that 1. Tim. 3. episcopatus is opus. but the pope doth not the office of a bishop, either in teaching or administring the sacraments. further, bishops, as Cyprian diuersly declareth, are the successours of the apo­stles. but the Pope succéedeth Caesar in the gouernment of Rome, rather than Peter and Paul, in gouerning the church. and other Romish bishops, they rather kill Christes shéepe, and massacre his lambs, than feed them. finally, Romish bi­shops, albeit they are after a sort sent to teach and administer sacraments, yet most of them are vncapable of that charge, and all leaue the office of teaching, to a packe of loud mouthed monks and babling friers, thinking that too base an office for their great and high estate.

But had Romish priests and bishops any mission or ordi­nation, yet is the same very defectiue, and diuers from the graue forme practised in the ancient church. for neither is such regard had of the capacity and ability of the persons chosen to this function, but that often times boies and infamous per­sons are called to this charge; neither are the solemnities pre­scribed in the canons obserued, nor doe either the priests or bi­shops teach true doctrine, and sincerely administer the sacra­ments, nor doe they finally attend that office, and execute that worke, whereto they are called. If therfore the Romish priests and bishops haue no due ordination or calling; then are not the papists the true church. if their ordination be imperfect and faultie, then such is the popish church, as their popish or­dination of ministers is, that is faulty, defectiue, and imper­fect.

argument 61 The true church of Christ can not adhere to Antichrist. our sauior Christ speaking of his shéepe, Iohn 10. saith, they will not fol­low [Page 36] a stranger, but will flie from him. neither doth Antichrist seduce any, bur such as perish, as the apostle teacheth vs, 2. Thess. 2. but the Romish church adhereth to the pope, which is declared manifestly to be Antichrist, both by his doctrine, & by his maners, & by the forme & circumstances of his reigne, and diuers arguments: which because I would not draw out this discourse into length, I would desire the learned to reade in my fift booke De pontifice Rom. and our aduersaries to an­swere, if they holde contrary. Robert Parsons should also doe well to answere such arguments, as I vsed in my answere to his Wardword, to proue the pope to be Antichrist.

argument 62 As the true church of Christ was figured by the holy city of Ierusalem, so the malignant church of Antichrist is figured and represented partly by Babylon, Apocalyps. 18. and partly by the purple whore, Apocalyp. 17. that rideth on a beast with seuen heads, and had a cup of gold in her hand ful of all abomi­nations, and spirituall & carnall filthinesse. If then the state of Rome, and the Romish church, be represented by this purple harlot, and by Babylon that wicked city; then doth it necessa­rily fellow, that the church of Rome now is not the citie and church of God, but rather the malignant church & synagogue of Satan adhering to Antichrist, and opposite to Christ and his church. but that the state of new Rome and of the Romish sect, as it adhereth to the pope, and is the fountaine and metropoli­tane citie, from whence all idolatry, heresie, and superstition stoweth, is meant by the purple whore, Apocalyp. 17. and by Babylon, Apocalyp. 18. diuers arguments may teach vs. first, the order of S. Iohns reuelation doth shew it. for after that in the 12. chapter, and in the beginning of the thirtéenth he had described the state of olde Rome vnder the Romane emperors, and foreprophecied the ruine and decay of that empire, and the rising of another state out of the ruines of it; there is no likehood, that he should returne backe againe, to describe the flourishing state of that empire in the seuentéenth chapter, or that the holy ghost would relate things confusedly or disorder­ly. secondly, he representeth vnto vs the decay of old Rome, & the arising of Antichrist out of the ruines of it in the end of the thirtéenth chapter. and therefore, whatsoeuer followeth after that chapter, the same with good reason may be drawen to [Page 37] Rome after it came to be vnder the pope, whose state is wholly built vpon the fall of the empire, and can by [...] meanes be ap­plied vnto Rome, as it was vnder the Romane emperors. Thirdly after the destruction of the purple whore and of Baby­lon, the apostle prophesieth of the end of the world, and of the last iudgement, as if the one were to follow immediately, or at the least not long after the other. but we sée the Romane empire long since destroied, and nothing remaining, but a vaine name or title of it: and yet the end of the world and last iudgement is not come. the ruine of old Rome therefore by the destruction of the whore, and of Babylon, is not prefigu­red, but rather the destruction of antichrists seat and king­dome. Fourthly the beast, which saint Iohn saw, and vpon which the purple whoore did sit, was not then, as she should be, as he saith. non adhuc erat Apocal. 17. saith he, & ex abysso ascensura erat. but the Romane empire did most flourish in saint Iohns time. and therefore that beast must néeds signifie another state and empire, which in Rome was to be erected after the Romane empires decay. Fiftly those ten kings, which are signified by ten hornes Apocalyps. 17. did not arise during the time of the old empire of Rome, but vpon the decay of the empire, and ri­sing of antichrist. for we doe not reade, that kings did giue their power to the Romane empire, nor had that strong em­pire any néed of their power. but we reade, that diuers kings haue giuen their power to the papacie, and made themselues slaues, to make the popes great lords. this therefore must néeds be a figure of the papacy, and not of the old Romane empire. Sixthly we doe read, that the kings of the earth com­mitted fornication with the purple whore: and may well vn­derstand, that the purple whore was a figure of one, from whom corruption of doctrine, and idolatrous worship should be deriued. for that is spirituall fornication. but from the Ro­mane emperore we cannot vnderstand, that any kings recei­ued any forme of religion, or corrupt doctrine, or idolatrous worship. this therefore must néeds touch the pope, and his sée, from whence manifolde superstitions & idolatries are deriued into all places, and not the imperiall state, which regarded but little the state of religion. Seuenthly the kings of the earth did rather reioice, then lament at the destruction of the Ro­mane [Page 38] empire. for vpon the ruines thereof they built their own kingdomes, and states. but diuers kings, that are linked with the Pope haue lamented his losses. the king of Spaine wept, when he heard of the euill successe of English rebels, which the pope Vita de Pio 5. Pius the fift stirred vp, hoping by them againe yet once more to recouer footing in England. Eightly the purple whore Apocalypse 17. is called the mother of fornications, or idolatry, which is termed in scripture spirituall fornication. this prophecy therefore doeth rather touch the popish idolatry & corruption in religion, than the ciuill gouernment. Ninthly after the empire of Rome began to decay, the state of christian religion began to flourish in Rome. and therefore that which is said of Rome, that it shall after the reuelation of the whore become the habitation of diuels, and vncleane spirits, cannot be spoken of old Rome, after whose decay religion began to flourish, but of new Rome, vnder the popes, which is now become a receptacle of all abominations and filthinesse. 10. This Rome that is described Apocalyps. 17. shall perse­cute the saints néere to the end of the world, as may be gathe­red out of saint Iohns reuelation. this therefore belongeth to the pope, and his bloody inquisitors, and not to the old Rome whose persecutions are long since ceased. 11. The descripti­on of the purple whore, and of Babylon doeth best fit the state of Rome vnder the subiection of the pope. the great whore is said to sit vpon many waters, and to inuegle the kings of the earth with her spirituall fornications, she was clad with pur­ple and sclarlet, and set out with gold and precious stones. she had in her hand a golden cup full of abhominations, and in her forhead was written this word, mysterium, and great Ba­bylon, the mother of fornications and abominations of the earth. finally it is said she was drunke with the bloud of mar­tyrs. Babylon also is called an habitation of diuels, and a re­ceptacle of foule spirits, and vncleane birds: and saint Iohn saith, the nations of the earth did drinke of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and that kings did commit forni­cation with her, and marchants grew rich with trading with her. so likewise the pope doeth rule many nations, and hath wonne the kings of the earth, to like his corrupt and idola­trous doctrine. he and his religion also is decked with all pre­cious [Page 39] furniture, and nothing séemeth more gallant in externall shew. like a woman the pope preuailed by fraud, periury, and pretence of great mysteries, and from him all abominations and corruptions procéeded. it is he and no other, that for this foure or fiue hundred yeres hath persecuted the saints of God, and to him the kings of the earth yéeld their forces, and are ready to execute his sentences and excommunications. beside that, neuer was more vncleannesse, nor filthinesse practised by any, than by the Romish Sodomiticall and lecherous monks and priests: nor was there euer in any place more buying and selling of all things, than in the Romish church. lastly, Arethas and Ambrosius Ansbertus writing vpon the Apocalypse, say, that new Rome may be vnderstood by Babylon, and Petrarch doubteth not in plaine termes to call Rome vnder the popes, false and wicked Babylon. Gia Roma, saith he, hor' Babylonia fals'eria. his opinion is likewise confirmed by the bishop of Salzburg Auentin. lib. 7. Michael Cesenas, Petrus Blesensis and others. and so guilty are the Romanists in their owne consci­ence, that either they can not endure the interpretation of the Reuelation of S. Iohn, or els they giue out such vaine constru­ctions of it, as neither satisfie themselues nor others.

argument 63 The true church of Christ did neuer worship S. Peter, nor the ancient bishops of Rome; nor did S. Peter suffer himselfe to be worshipped, or carried on mens shoulders, or to haue his pantofle kissed. but the Romish church doth worship the pope and call him a god on the earth, and Christes vicar, and the foundation, and spouse, and head of the church. the bishop of Modrusa in the councell of Lateran cried out to Leo the tenth, te beatissime Leo saluatorem expectauimus. others beare him on their shoulders, others crie out to the pope to haue mercy on them, others leade his palfrey, others kisse his féet.

argument 64 The true church did alwaies reuerently thinke of the holy mysteries of Christian religion, and accordingly did she vse them. it is a common saying, that holy things are respectiuely and reuerently to be vsed. But the Romish church neither thinketh, nor beléeueth reuerently, nor vseth the mysteries of Christian religion so respectiuely, as the holinesse, and grauity of such things require. one pope cast the eucharist into the fire. Hildebrandus, saith In vita Gra­gor. 7. Beno, sacramentum corporis Domini [Page 40] responsa diuina contra imperatorem quaerens iniecit igni, Pius Quintus cast one Agnus Dei into the water of Tybre, In vita de Pio 5. and ano­ther into the fire. Cresciuto il Teuere, saith Hierome Catena, Pio vi gittò vn' agnus Dei, & il fuoco appreso in vna casa piena di fieno, vi si gitto vn altero. All papists for the most part af­firme, that if a dogge, or hogge, or mouse eat a consecrate host, he eateth the body of Christ really and properly. the conspira­tors, that were suborned by Sixtus Quartus, to kill Laurence and Iulian de Medici, were commanded to do it in the church, and at the instant of the eleuation of the sacrament. Dato signo saith Lib. Geo­graph. 5. Volateran, cum eucharistia tolleretur. When the pope rideth abroad, he sendeth his corpus Domini before with the baggage, and with the basest seruants of his house, as Mouluc in a treatise directed to the Quéene mother of France decla­reth. finally, albeit the papists teach, that the crosse is to be worshipped with latria, or diuine worship; yet doe the popes make crosses on their slippers, to shew what base reckoning they make of their religion.

argument 65 The church of Christ is a society of beléeuing and faithfull people, and a communion of saints. this is an article of our faith. that is proued by the definition, and nature of the church. but the Romish church requireth in her followers no more to make them her true members, but that they professe the Ro­mish faith outwardly, and communicate with the church in sa­craments, and be subiect to the pope. vt aliquis aliquo modo dici possit pars verae ecclesiae, de qua scripturae loquuntur, non putamus requiri vllam internam virtutem, saith De eccles. mi­lit. c. 2. Bellarmine. so by his account the church may consist of hereticks, and most wicked persons, so they make an externall profession of Chri­stianitie, and holde with the pope. but such can not be parts or members of Christes church, without true faith and charity.

argument 66 Matth. 18. Whosoeuer heareth not the church, is to be accounted as a heathen man or publican. but he that heareth not the church of Rome, that excommunicateth Christian princes, and stir­reth vp subiects to rebellion, and debaseth holy scriptures, and setteth vp vncerteine and false traditions, and mainteineth false doctrine, idolatry and heresie, is neither to be accounted a publican, nor a heathen man, but a true Christian, and follow­er of Christ Iesus. the papists will denie perhaps the church of [Page 31] Rome to be guilty of this crime. but the wicked excommuni­cations of Paul the third, denounced against Henry the 8. K. of England, of Pius 5. & Sixtus Quintus, against her Maiesty, and of other popes against other princes, and the stirres that haue ensued of them doe prooue them to be authors of rebelli­on. the rest we haue already touched, and shall more at large proue hereafter.

argument 67 Lib. de notis ecclesiae. Bellarmine confesseth, and all papists agree with him, first that the true church of Christ is the catholicke church and maintaineth catholicke doctrine. 2. that the same is most an­cient. sine dubio saith he, vera ecclesia antiquior est qùam falsa. 3. that the same shall alwaies continue. ecclesia dicitur ca­tholica non solum, quia semper fuit, sed etiam quia semper erit, saith Bellarmine. 4. that it shall be enlarged to the endes of the earth. ecclesia catholica saith he, non solum debet amplecti omnia tempora, sed etiam omnia loca, omnes nationes, omnia hominum genera. 5. that it hath a succession of bishops cer­taine and continuall. 6. that it consenteth with the apostolicke church in the doctrine of faith. sexta nota saith Bellar. est con­spiratio in doctrina cum ecclesia antiqua. 7. that it be vnited to Christ Iesus, and haue the partes vnited among them­selues. septima nota saith he, est vnio mēbrorum inter se, & cum capite. 8. they confesse also that the doctrine of the church is holy. 9. that it is effectuall. 10. that the authors of the doct­trine of the church are holy. ecclesia enim saith Bellar. habet doctores sanctos. 11. that the same is adorned with miracles & prophecie. 12. that the aduersaries of the church confesse the doctrine thereof to be true. and finally that such as haue fauo­red the church haue prosperous successe, and such as disfauour it, euill successe and vnhappie endes. but the Romish church is neither called catholicke of all, nor is it catholicke in respect of place, or doctrine. nor is the same ancient, the doctrine of popery being not established, but since the councell of Lateran, vnder Innocent the third the first father of transubstantiation, & enacted for the most part by the conuenticles of Constance, Florence & Trent. nor hath the Romish church any assurance, that it shall alwaies continue, seing the same dependeth on the Pope, and his determinations, in neither of which is there a­ny certainty. for the pope may be taken away as saith De auserri­bilit. papae. Ger­son, [Page 42] and his decrées doe oftentimes alter. Epist. 2. ad Bohemos. Nicholas of Cusia saith, that the scriptures are to be fitted to the time, and that they are diuersly to be vnderstood, and that God doth alter his iudgement according to the iudgement of the church. we sée also, that the popes are still publishing decretales of faith, and that one destroieth that, which another buildeth, and contra­riwise. 4. it were plaine impudency to affirme, that the doc­trine of the church of Rome concerning frée will and works, sacraments, and the popes authority, and such like points was alwaies taught, and receiued of all nations, and in all places. and that shall appeare by diuers perticulars, where wée declare, that the papists are no catholickes. 5. that church hath no certaine, nor continuall succession of bishops. for neither doe the aduersaries, know, who succeded Peter, nor what bishops from time to time succeded one another, nor haue the popes bene true bishops a long time wanting due election, and ordination, and relinquishing vtterly the office of bishops, to rule the temporall state of Rome. nor can they de­ny, but that the succession of that sée hath bene often interrup­ted by long vacations, distraction by schisme, intrusion of Dame Ioane into the popedome. 6 we shall easily proue, that the doctrine of that church agréeth not with the apostles doctrine. for I doe not thinke, that Bellar. can shew the decre­tales to consent with Paules epistles, or to haue bene written with the same spirit. 7. the papists haue not onely ouer­throwne Christs propheticall office, in teaching new doctrine, but also his regall and priestly function, appointing a new go­uernment neuer established by him, and erecting a new priest­hood and sacrifice contrary to Christes doctrine. furthermore that church, not onely hath bene oftentimes distracted by schisme, but also is much distracted by contrary opinions of schoolemen, monks, and friers in euery point of doctrine, as, to goe no further appeareth both by Dionysus Carthusianus vpon the master of sentences, & Iosephus Angles his Flores docto­rum, and Bellarmines disputations, wherein he alledgeth in e­uery point diuers opinions. 8. their decretaline doctrine is neither sound nor holy, standing more on temporall iurisdicti­on, then pointes of faith, and establishing the blasphemies of the masse, the idolatrous worship of saints departed, and of [Page 43] images, and the tyranny of the pope. 9. the same doctrine is without effect being vpholden with lies, fables, fraud, fire and sword, and not being otherwise able to stand. 10. Gregory the 9. was a most wicked ambitious man. of Boniface the 8. it is said, that he sought rather to rule by force, then religion. Clement the 5. was a notorious adulterer, as Villani & Vrsperg. stories write, Iohn the 22. was an hereticke, & an ambitious man. yet were these the principall authors of Romish doctrine. for as for fri­ers and monkes, they might prate their pleasure: but the chiefe authority to allow or disallow was in the pope. 11. the reportes of Romish miracles and prophecies are nothing, but lies and fables, and stand onely vpon the report of their le­gendes. 12. Bellarmine shall neuer prooue, that any of vs haue confessed the doctrine of popery to be true. finally it appeareth, that the popes of Rome, and their agents, in most of their at­tempts haue had no good successe. Charles the fift and his sonne Philip, the greatest protectors of the popish cause died discon­tent, to say no more. Henry the third, the principall agent in the massacre of France, was killed by a frier. The duke of Guise and other massacrers came to violent ends. contrari­wise it hath pleased God to maintaine true Christians against all the forces and ambuscadaes of their enimies, by small meanes. if then Bellarmine say true, the Romish church will prooue no true church.

argument 68 The church of Rome is also conuinced, not to be the true church by the confession of Relect. doct. princip. contron. 1. q. 5. Stapleton. for if the true church began at Hierusalem, and is vniuersally dispersed ouer the whole earth, and hath continued in all ages, and hath a true, and certeine succession continued from the apostles, and disa­greeth not about matters of faith, nor dissenteth from the head of the church, and hath planted christian religion, and preser­ued the same throughout the world, and hath kept the aposto­like forme of gouernment, and preuailed against all heresies and temptations, keeping the rule of faith sound and intiere, and al­so sheweth the true way of saluation, and keepeth the scriptures sound & pure from corruption, and finally holdeth the decrees of general councels, as blundring Princip. doc­trinal. relectis. Stapleton not onely confes­seth, but after his rude and most odious, and tedious fashion with multitude of words goeth about to prooue; then is not [Page 44] the church of Rome, that now is, the true church of Christ Ie­sus. for to say, that the church of Rome began at Hierusalem, is as absurd as to say that Rome is Hierusalem, or to affirme that Rome now is like to old Rome. Robert Parsous should do vs a speciall fauour, to shew vnto vs, that the glory and ful­nesse of power, that the pope challengeth, with his glorious cardinals, masse priests, mitred prelats, idle monks, lying friers, and all the popes doctrine concerning the law, faith, sa­craments, ceremonies, and other matters, came from Hieru­salem. he may do well also to prooue that the latter scholastical & decretaline doctrine, which the church of Rome mainteineth was vniuersally receiued throughout the world, nay yt it was receiued in any part of the world during the apostles times, or the times of the ancient fathers of the church. as for the rocke of succession of popes, vpon which our aduersaries build so large conclusions, Lib. de pontif. Rom. & de notis ecclesiae. we haue shewed it, to be nothing but a banke of sand. for neuer shall the popes agents be able to shew the same to haue beene certeine, or continued without inter­ruptiō. it is also apparent, that popish doctrine is not onely di­uers from Christs doctrine, but also contrarie to the same. and that there are infinit contradictions, and contrarieties in the opinions of the chiefe patrons of popery, albeit all dissent from Christ the head of the church. the church of Rome hath also béene torne in pieces by diuers schismes. further we shall héereafter shew, that the later popes haue not planted, but ra­ther rooted out Christian religion out of diuers places, and in the rest haue corrupted it with diuers nouelties and here­sies. finally the church of Rome hath not onely abrogated an­cient canons, and changed the ancient forme of church go­uernment, but also corrupted the rule of faith by adding of vnwritten traditions, determinations of popes, and their fancies to the canonicall scriptures. the gates of hell therefore preuailing against the church and popes of Rome, it is easily to be inferred, that the same is not the true church.

argument 69 Héere we will also adde the testimony of Bristow, a man, as the aduersaries imagine, well séene in motiues, and markes of the church. He Bristowes motiues. commendeth that for the true church, that is catholike, and apostolike, and which abhorreth all nouelties, heresies, and idolatries, and whose doctrine is confirmed by [Page 45] scriptures, most certeine traditions, councels, fathers, and prac­tise of the ancient church, and which teacheth the narrow way, and maketh subiects obedient, and is sure to continue. but nei­ther is the church of Rome catholike, nor apostolike, which embraceth vncerteine traditions, and apocryphall scriptures, with equall affection to canonicall scriptures, and which re­ceiueth all the popes decretales concerning matters of faith, albeit they conteine doctrine neither apostolicall nor general. secondly it will be an easie matter to shew, that the Romish church abhorreth neither heresie, nor idolatrie, nor noueltie. thirdly in diuerse discourses against Bellarmine I haue shew­ed, that popish doctrine hath neither ground of scriptures, councels nor fathers. thereby also it may appeare, that popish traditions are most vaine, vncerteine, and superstitious. fourthly, the way which that church teacheth, is broad and ea­sie. for what is more easie than to heare masses, and to eat fish, and to confesse sinnes, and to obserue diuers externall ce­remonies? and yet by these small things, papists hope to be saued. fiftly, we finde, that all the rebellions of England, Ire­land and France haue wholly procéeded from the church of Rome, and the doctrine of the seditious Iebusites, and Cana­nites and masse priests. neither will euer rebellion be rooted out, vnlesse the tyrannicall vsurpation of popes be repressed, and their parasites taught to submit themselues to their liege princes. sixthly, what certeinty in iudgement can the papists haue, that depend vpon the resolutions of blinde, vnlearned and wicked popes? finally, we sée Antichrist to be reuealed, and the city of Babylon to fall to confusion. who then doth not expect and beléeue the vtter ruine and desolation of Antichrists state? Further, Bristow telleth vs, that euery church that is ri­sen after the first planting of religion, and gone out of the catho­like church, and from apostolike doctrine, and is not the com­munion of saints, nor euer visible, and which is not the teacher of all diuine trueth, and the vndoubted mother of Christes chil­dren, is not the true church. But the church of Rome, as it is now visible in the pope and cardinals, in the officers of the popes chamber, in popish prelates, sacrificing priests, monks, friers and nunnes, and their officers and adherents, whose faith is built on popish decretals, and mincing scholasticall di­stinctions, [Page 46] as fine wouen, as any spider webbe, rose out of the earth long after the apostles times, and first planting of religi­on, and that the Romish church crept out by little and little out of the catholike and apostolike church: for apostolicall doctrine embracing apostaticall and light fancies and traditions, and for the maintenance of mens bellies and the popes authoritie, is departed from Christ, and hath made war vpon the saints. in the same also, whores are openly mainteined, & cutthrotes by rewards incited to kill and poison princes, and a way to all periuries and vices by the popes indulgences opened. how then can any call this a communion of saints? finally, he that expecteth trueth at the popes hands, shal be gulled with fables; and he that calleth Rome a mother, can be content for gaine, to call the whore of Babylon, and mother of errours, his mo­ther.

argument 70 The church of Christ neuer allowed the decretals of popes, or the extrauagants, or rules of Chancery concerning the popes authoritie and procéeding. but in these lawes the church of Rome hath diuers rules of the Romish faith, and thereby gouerneth her procéedings.

argument 71 In the church of Christ clerks were not exempt from the subiection of princes. The apostle saith, Let euery soule be sub­iect to higher powers. But in the church of Rome, all clerks are quited and exempted from the princes power, as Bellar­mine in his booke of that argument, by the popes canons, and all his wit, endeuoureth to proue.

argument 72 The true church neuer baptized belles, nor held monkes coules to be equall to baptisme. but the popish church, as the Grauam. 51. Germanes in their grieuances declare, baptizeth belles, and compareth the entrance into monkish profession, with bap­tisme.

argument 73 Finally, neuer was Christes church or any part of Christes church within any kingdome gouerned by an archpriest and certeine seditious Iebusites, masse priests, and such like vermine. Howsoeuer then they deny it in others, yet can they not deny, but that the papists of England are not members of Christes church, but rather of the sy­nagogue of Satan.

CHAP. II. That the doctrines and traditions of the Romish church, which the church of England refuseth, are mere nouelties, and late deuised fancies.

IF when the papists doe recommend vnto vs their old religion, they meant nothing els, but the religion of Christ Iesus, which the apostles first taught, and which the apostolicall and most ancient Christians receiued and deliue­red to posterity; we should not much contend with thim. for that is the religion, which we professe, not va­rying in any thing from the apostles créed, and other créeds ei­ther set out by Athanasius, or the most ancient generall coun­cels of the church, nor denying any thing that is expressed, or proued out of the holy canonicall scriptures.

But when they talke of old religion, they meane the religion of the church of Rome, which was either established by later popes, or taken vp by lewd custome and vncerteine tradition. the which though it séeme to some ancient; yet in very truth is new, and no way to be compared to the religion, that was first deliuered by Christ, and his apostles: neither doth it de­serue the name of old religion. for as Ignatius said Epist. ad Phi­ladelph. sometime, antiquitas mea Christus est, so we may say, that Christ is the top of our ancestry: & that the apostles doctrine is both anci­ent & most true. id verius quod prius saith Lib. 4. contra Marcion. Tertullian, id prius quod ab initio, id ab initio quod ab apostolis. if thē the papists, as they bragge, could prooue their religion to be deriued from the apostles; then would we indéed confesse, it were ancient. if they cannot, then we must say to them as Epist. 65. ad Pammach. & Ocean. Hierome said to one in his time: cur profers in medium, saith he, quod Pe­trus & Paulus edere noluerunt? why doe they produce articles of faith vnknowen to the apostles? nay why doe they teach vs points of religion, which in times of the ancient fathers of the church were vnheard of? will they haue that accounted old, which the fathers of the church, which were long after the apostles neuer knew, nor the ancient church euer re­ceiued? [Page 48] they would so. Contra. haeres. c. 35. but Vincentius Lirinensis doeth call him a true catholike, that doeth onely beléeue and hold, what­soeuer the ancient catholike church did vniuersally beléeue. quicquid saith he, vniuersaliter antiquitus ecclesiam catholi­cam tenuisse cognouerit, id solum sibi tenendum, credendum­que decernit. if then the papists will hold all the religion, which now they professe, their religion will neuer prooue an­cient, nor catholike. not ancient, for that diuers doctrines and traditions which they hold, are new, and vnheard of in the ancient catholike church.

argument 1 First they teach vs, that the holy canonicall scriptures are no perfect canon of our faith. for this doctrine is gathered out of the decrée of the councell of Trent, that with equall affecti­on embraceth vnwritten traditions, and canonicall scrip­tures. Lib. 4. de ver­bo Dei c. 12. Bellarmine saith, that scriptures are a part of the ca­non, or rule of faith, and not a whole rule. dico secundò saith he, scripturam, etsi non sit facta praecipuè, vt sit regula fi­dei, esse tamen regulam fidei non totalem, sed partialem. De doctrin. princip. li. 7. c. 1. Sta­pleton beside scriptures frameth a new rule, which he calleth the order of tradition. but this doctrine is new, and contrary both to scriptures and fathers. The 2. Tim. 3. apostle he teacheth vs, that the scriptures are able to make the man of God perfect, and furnished for euery good worke. he teacheth vs also, that they are able, to make vs wise to saluation. likewise the fathers testifie, that the scriptures are a perfect canon. sufficiunt san­ctae, ac diuinitus inspitatae scripturae saith Lib. contr. idola. Athanasius, ad ve­ritatis indicationem. Basil in serm. de fid. confess. saith, it is an argument of infidelity and pride, either to reiect scriptures, or to bring in matter not conteined in scriptures: he meaneth in questions of faith. cum habeamus omnium exactissimam truti­nam, gnomonem & regulam, diuinarum legum assertionem, saith, In 2. ad Co­rinth. homil. 13. Chrysostome, oro vos omnes, vt relinquatis quid huic, vel illi videatur, & de his à scripturis haec omnia inquirite. Ter­tullian writing against Hermogenes saith, that he adoreth the fulnesse of scriptures. And saint Lib. 2. de doctr. Chri­stian. c. 9. Augustine teacheth, that all things concerning faith and maners, are found in scriptures clearely propounded. to conclude this point, most derogatory it were to Gods diuine wisedome, if any man should sup­pose the scripture to be an imperfect canon, or halfe a rule, or [Page 49] maimed doctrine, as the papistes lately haue begun to teach.

argument 2 They haue made the bookes of Tobia, Iudith, Wisedome, Ecclesiasticus, Machabeies, and such fragments of bookes, as are in the old Latin interpreter, and not in Hebrew, equall to the bookes of Moyses and other prophets, and to the writings also of the apostles. this is the determination of the councell of Trent, and the common doctrine now of the Iebusites and papists: but new, and no way approoued by the ancient church. for these bookes were neuer allowed by any pro­phets, or by the church of God before Christs time. nor did the ancient fathers allow them. Gregory in his morals lib. 19. c. 16. directly affirmeth the bookes of Machabeis not to be canonicall. sicut ergo Iudith & Tobiae, & Machabaeorum li­bros legit quidem ecclesia saith In Prouerb. Solomon. Hierome, sed eos inter cano­nicas scripturas non recipit. he saith In praefat. in lib. paralip. also where controuersie is concerning Apocryphall writings, we must haue recourse to the Hebrews. neither doth Augustine so make them canoni­call, as he reputeth them equall to other scriptures, as appea­reth by his words lib. 18. de ciuit. dei. c. 36. & conrra Gau­dent. lib. 2. c. 23. nay Sixtus Senensis, albeit he make all these bookes canonicall; yet doeth he not giue to all equall authori­tie. let vs therefore sée any ancient writer, that alloweth the decrée of the councell of Trent, if the papists will not haue all men sée, that they haue innouated the very canon of the Chri­stian faith.

argument 3 They haue also made the old Latin translation authenti­call contrary not onely to reason, séeing it differeth not onely from the originall bookes, but also is contrary to it selfe, as may appeare by the editions of Sixtus Quintus and Clement the 8. but also to antiquity, which, as appeareth by the testi­mony of Hierome and Augustine alwaies preferred the origi­nall bookes in matter of difference before translations.

argument 4 Concerning the interpretation of scriptures the conuenticle of Trent Sess. 4. determineth that no man shall interpret them against that sense and meaning which the holy mother church holdeth, to whome it belongeth to iudge of the true meaning and inter­pretation of scriptures. end by the church they vnderstand the the pope and church of Rome. but this act is altogether new. for we do not finde, that euer the easterne, or African churches [Page 50] were forbidden to interpret scriptures, as well as the church of Rome: or that the fathers of the church were tied to ex­pound scriptures after the opinions of the bishop of Rome. nay we finde, that no interpretations are more absurd then theirs, or more contrary to the meaning of the holy ghost. as for example may appeare in these two points. In the law of Moyses we are expresly forbidden to make grauen images to worship them. but the church of Rome interpreteth these words so galantly, that men may both make grauen images, and worship them. our sauior Christ saith, bibitē ex hoc om­nes; but the Romanistes turne it contrary, and will haue no communicantes to drinke of the Lords cuppe, but the priest onely.

argument 5 In time past Dist. 15. c. sancta Ro­mana. Christians were forbidden to read the le­gends of Quiricus & Iulitta, and George, the 8. books of Cle­ment, the acts of Tecla and Paul, the booke of the assumption of the virgine Mary and such like. The acts also of Siluestre bis­hop of Rome, and writings concerning the inuention of the holy crosse, and of the head of Saint Iohn Baptist, were doubted of. but now these legends for the most part are the grounds of Romish traditions, which the church of Rome placeth in e­quall ranke with holy canonicall scriptures. is it not then ap­parent, that the very grounds of Romish traditions are laid vpon fables, and of late inuention?

argument 6 The foundation of the ancient apostolicke faith was laid vpon the scriptures, as is euident, for that the city and church of God is built vpon the prophets and apostles, Christ Iesus being the corner stone. Lib. 3. aduers. haeres. c. 1. Ieremy saith, that the apostles first preached the gospell, and afterward by the will of God deliuer­ed the same in scriptures, that they might be a foundation, and piller of our faith. but now Bellar. teachech vs, that the pope is the foundation of the church. and Stapleton doubteth not to De doctr. princip. in praefat. say, that the pope is the chiefe subiect of ecclesiasticall autho­rity. and Cancanoni­cis. dist. 19. Gratian like a shamelesse fellow vnder the name of Saint Augustine doubteth not to recken the popes decretale e­pistles among the canonicall scriptures.

argument 7 Stapleton laieth 7. principles or grounds of Christian doc­trine, Lib. 1. doct [...]. princip. c. 1. whereof the first concerneth the church of Rome. the se­cond concerneth the pope. the third the meanes that the pope [Page 51] vseth in iudgement. the fourth, the popes infallible iudgement. the fift, his power in taxing the canon. the sixt, his certaine in­terpretation of scriptures. the seuenth his power in deliuer­ing doctrine not written. Which principles are not onely new, but the most rascall deuises, that euer procéeded out of the mouth of a diuine, or man of learning. for among all these principles neither the scriptures, nor ancient rules of faith are numbred. nay in plaine termes he doubteth not to affirme, that Christian religion is built vpon the popes authority. in hac docentis hominis authoritate, saith In praefat. ante relect. princip. do­ctrinal. he, in qua deum loquen­tem audimus, religionis nostrae cognoscendae fundamentū ne­cessario poni credimus. but if this be the foundation of popish religion: then before Stapletons time that religion had no foundation. for no man euer heard of either such principles, or such a foundation so laid.

argument 8 We finde, that the religion of papists concerning the masse and transubstantiation, and diuers other points of faith is founded vpon the decretales of popes. but these decretales were not collected into forme, nor established for law before Gregory the 9. Boniface the 8. Clement the 5. and Iohn the 22. by whose authority, as appeareth by the seuerall prefaces of Gregory the 9. Boniface the 8. and Iohn bishop of Rome, that published the Clementines. secondly it appeareth, for that in all these bookes there is but very few constitutions of ancient bishops of Rome. thirdly, for that by the lawes of the Code and canons of councels it appeareth, that the church for aboue a thousand yeares was gouerned by the lawes of Emperors, and generall councels. fourthly, for that Aeneas Syluius confes­seth, that before the councell of Nice the church of Rome was not respected. and finally, for that he, that maketh the collecti­on of the Popes lawes, and Bulles, that were authenticall, In Bullari [...]. beginneth with Gregory the 7. that was a thousand yeares after Christ: which he would not haue done, if he could haue found any lawes more ancient, than his. Indéed I confesse, that now and then our aduersaries produce the decretales of Clement, Anacletus, Euaristus and others. but the matters conteined in those epistles, and the stile doth so much differ from those times, that euery modest and learned papist is asha­med to say these epistles were those, whose names they cary.

argument 9 The power and authoritie likewise of popes in receiuing appeales, granting rescripts aswell of fauor, or iustice, dispen­sing in cases reserued, electing and translating of prelates, and all other matters, dependeth vpon the decretals of late popes. and this appeareth not only by the decretals of Gregory the 9. Boniface the 8. Clement the 5. and Iohn the 22. but also by the rapsody of decrées, which Surius collecteth in his first tome of councels. for albeit he alledgeth the names of Anacletus, Ze­pherinus, Calixtus, Fabianus and others; yet they speake onely great words, and vse generall termes. for the particulars of the popes authoritie he can not alledge them, albeit such coun­terfeit and rifferaffe stuffe would aduantage him nothing, if they were truly alledged.

argument 10 The foundation of the ancient church is strong, being built vpon the doctrine of the Prophets and Apostles, our Sauiour Christ being the chiefe corner stone. but the church of Romes foundation, being laied on the pope and his decretales, is weake, and not durable. Videtur nostra ecclesia, saith Lib. 5. de prouident. Dei. Salui­anus, ex vna scriptura foelicius-instituta. aliae habent illam aut debilem, aut conuulneratam. habent veterem magistrorum tra­ditionem corruptam, & per hoc traditionem potius, quàm scrip­turam habent. the foundation therefore of papisticall religion, is both new and weake, being grounded vpon men both sub­iect to errors, and other grosse sinnes.

argument 11 Scriptures in the apostles times and long after, were neuer forbidden to be translated into tongues, that could not be vn­derstood of the vulgar sort. but now the papists suffer them not to be so translated, Index libr. prohib. reg. 4. that euery man may vse them. Cum expe­rimento manifestum sit, Ibidem. say they, si sacra biblia vulgari lingua passim sine discrimine permittantur, plus inde ob hominum te­meritatem detrimenti, quam vtilitatis oriri. they punish also both the bookesellers, and the readers, that haue vulgar bibles without licence, albeit translated by themselues.

argument 12 In ancient time, the gouernors of the church exhorted Chri­stians to reade the scriptures. our Sauior Ioan. 5. Christ speaking to the people, exhorted them to search the scriptures. and the Be­raeans were Act. 17. commended for searching the scriptures. S. Paul writing to the Colossians, Coloss. 3. wished, that the word of God might dwell in them plentifully, in all wisdome. the fathers al­so [Page 53] teach, that the reading of Scriptures belonged also to lay men. S. Hierome writing vpon the third chapter to the Co­lossians, Hic ostenditur, saith he, verbum Christi non sufficien­ter, sed abundanter etiam laicos habere debere, & docere se in­uicem, & monere. and Chrysostome, homil. 9. in epist. ad Co­loss. Attend, saith he, as many of you as are secular persons, and gouerne wife and children, how the apostle doth command you also to reade the scriptures aboue all, and that not lightly and carelesly, but with great diligence. In Isai. ho­mil. 2. Origen finally wish­eth, that all Christians performed that, which is written of sear­ching the scriptures. but the papists haue a contrary spirit. speaking of the vulgar bibles translated by their owne side, they say thus, Qui abs (que) tali facultate ea legere, Index libr. prohib. reg. 4. seu habere prae­sumpserit. they punish also the booksellers, Ibidem. that haue such books without licence.

argument 13 In the times of the ancient fathers, we do not reade, that any holy bishop condemned bibles translated into vulgar tongues, or burnt them; albeit some errors were conteined in the translations. neither did they repute lay men to be here­tikes and burne them, because they read the scriptures in their mother tongue. but now the papists burne the holy scriptures vpon pretence of errors, which notwithstanding they are not able to proue to be errors. they haue also burned Christians for reading scriptures, as appeareth by the register of Bishop Longland, in king Henry the 8. his daies. Index libr. prohib. reg. 4. and now they pu­nish both such as reade bibles, and such as sell them.

argument 14 The ancient fathers of the church beléeued the church to be catholike. but our papists now beléeue no church, but the Ro­mane church, and without the Romane church, they will not grant, that any is saued; iumbling catholike and Romane to­gether, as appeareth by the confession of the Iebusites of Bur­deaux, by Canisius Catechisme translated into Spanish by Hierome Campos, Bristowes 12. motiue in the margent, the cardinall of Cusa epist. 5. ad Bohemos. Cochlaeus hist. Hussit. lib. 11.

argument 15 The papists also, to fit their new fantasies, haue coined a new definition of the church. De eccles. mi­lit. c. 2. Bellarmine defineth the church to be a company of men conioined in one profession of faith, and communion of sacraments, vnder the gouernment of lawful [Page 54] pastors, and especially of the bishop of Rome. which definition is neither to be shewed in any authenticall writer, nor prooued by any good argument. for neither is it sufficient to professe the faith outwardly, and to communicate in sacraments, and to liue in subiection vnder lawfull pastors, to make a man a true member of the catholike church; nor can it be shewed, that all christians haue euer liued in subiection of Romish bi­shops. not that, for that most wicked persons, and atheists, and heretikes, may make an externall profession of their faith, and receiue the sacraments as did Iudas, and liue in outward subiection to their pastors; which notwithstanding the anci­ent fathers doe not acknowledge to be true members of the church. not this, for the Easterne and Africane churches in time past were neuer gouerned by the popes decretales. If Robert Parsons thinke otherwise, let him produce thrée or foure decretales of popes whereto these churches yéelded obe­dience.

argument 16 The ancient fathers beléeued, that the catholike church is a communion of saints, and a multitude of true beléeuers. the first is proued by an article of our creed: and so proued, that it may appeare, that the fathers accounted no licentious liuers true members of the church. Non ideo putandi sunt mali, saith S. Lib. 2. contr. lit. petil. c. vlt. Augustine, esse in Christi corpore, quod est ecclesia, quia sacramentorum eius corporaliter participes sunt. the second is proued, for that faith is the life of Christans. Ecclesia est domus Dei saith In Psal. 51. Hilary, & omnes euangelicae fidei sectatores. like­wise Lib. 1. de sa­crament. Ambrose saith, that the first thing that is required in a Christian, is faith. and both these points I haue at large proo­ued against Lib. de ec­cles. part. uat. & sedec. 6. & 7. Bellarmine. but the papists, if any credit be to be giuen to Lib. de eccles. mi [...]it. c. 2. Bellarmine, do hold, that a man may be a part and true member of the true church, albeit he haue neither faith, nor charitie, nor any inward vertue. so that by his confession, the Romish church may consist of infidels, atheists, sodomites, and abominable persons.

argument 17 The ancient church was wont to reuerence the apostles ca­nons. but the late Romish church doth not much regard them, as is apparent by the the 5.9. and 31. canons, which are not now obserued. Ex 84. apostolicis canonibus, saith Lib. 5. de sa­cror. hom. con­tinent. c. 105. Michael Medina, quos Clemens Romanus pontifex, & eorundem a­postolorum [Page 55] discipulus in vnum coegit, vix sex aut octo Latina ecclesia nunc obseruat. likewise Martin Perez, de tradit. part. 3. c. de autorit. can. apost. saith, that many things are conteined in the apostles canons, which through the corruptions of times are not fully obserued.

argument 18 The ancient church neuer vsed to confesse their sinnes to angels, saints, and to the virgine Mary; neither were Christi­ans inioined in time past to say, Confiteor Deo omnipotenti, beatae Mariae semper virgini, beato Michaeli archangelo, beato Ioanni Baptistae, sanctis apostolis Petro & Paulo, omnibús (que) sanctis, as the papists say in euery masse, nay in ancient In missa Ja­cobi, Marci, Basilij, Chry­sostomi. mis­sals this forme is not found.

argument 19 Neither did the priests clerke in ancient time giue absoluti­on to the priest, as it is in the missale of Rome. nor say, Mise­reatur tui omnipotens Deus, & dimissis omnibus peccatis tuis perducat te ad vitam aeternam. for that is nothing els, but to giue the keies to boies, and preferre the scholar before the master.

argument 20 The confession of faith also set out by Bulla Pij 4. super forma profess. fidei. Pius the fourth, wherein all that take degrées in schooles, or take charge of soules, professe, that they beleeue, and admit ecclesiasticall tra­ditions, and constitutions, and the scriptures according to the Romish sense, the seuen sacraments, and the doctrine of the councell of Trent concerning originall sinne, iustice of works, the sacrifice of the masse, transubstantiation, and other points there established; is new, and no where to be prooued out of the ancient fathers of the church.

argument 21 In the rehersall of the tenne commandements the ancient fathers neuer vsed to leaue out that commandement, that con­cerneth the making of grauen images like to God, and the worshipping of them. But the Romish church knowing it selfe guilty of the breach of this commandement, in their litle catechismes put before the office of the blessed virgine, and di­uers other Catechism. de Hieronymode campos. bookes doe leaue the same quite out.

argument 22 In ancient time Christians beléeued, that all was sinne, that was contrary to the commandements of God. for so they collected of the words of the law, that pronounced all accursed, Deut. 27. & Galat. 3. that did not abide in all things, 1. Iohn 5. that are written in the booke of the law, to doe them. and Saint Iohn saith expresly, that all [Page 56] vnrighteousnesse is sinne. and if it were not so, then were the law of God a most imperfect, and vncertaine rule. but the Consur. colon. f. 46. papists of late time affirme, that all that is repugnant to the law is not sinne: and that concupiscence is not sinne in the re­generate; and finally that it is no sinne, not to loue God with­all our hart, and all our soule.

argument 23 Ancient Christians beléeued, that concupiscence euen in the regenerate is sinne. for that is prohibited by the law of God, that saith thou shalt not couet. the apostle also doth call concu­piscence in himselfe, being now regenerate, sinne. and neces­sarily it must be so, séeing we are by the Deut. 6. law of God bound to loue God withall our hart, all our soule, all our strength. Saint Hierome, In Amos 1. saith, that it is sinne to thinke things that are euill, and Saint Lib. 2. contr. Faust. Manich. c. 27. Augustine teacheth vs, that whatsoeuer is desired, or coueted against the law, is sinne. but the late con­uenticle of Trent decréeth that concupiscence in the regenerate is no sinne.

argument 24 The apostle Iames teacheth, that we doe all of vs sinne, and that in diuers things. and Saint Iohn saith, that he that saith, he hath no sinne, deceiueth himselfe, and that there is no trueth in him. the scriptures also teach vs, that euen iust men offend and fall: neither may we thinke, that these sinnes are trifling, and veniall, and without breach of charity, but sometimes heauy and against the law of God. but the papists teach con­trary, and Censur. Co­lon. holde, that the regenerate doe not sinne.

argument 25 The ancient church of Christ taught that the law was a minister of death, and a schoolemaster to Christ. but the Censur. Co­lon. f. 22. pa­pists of late teach, that we are iustified by the works of the law, and that charity is the formall cause of our iustification.

argument 26 The apostles and ancient fathers taught, that we are not able to fulfill the law perfectly in this life. no flesh saith the Galat. 2. apostle is iustified by the workes of the law. Saint Aduers. Pe­lag. lib. 1. Hie­rome, saith, we are then iust, when we confesse our sinnes. Saint De spirit. & litera. Augustine likewise teacheth vs, that we shall then performe the law of God withall our soule, and withall our hart, when we shal see God face to face. but the papists of late do teach, that we are able to performe the whole law of God per­fectly, and not that only, but also that we are able to do works of supererogation, and more then is commanded in the law.

argument 27 In olde time Christians neuer could beléeue, that iustice consisted in the obseruance of holydaies, and abstinence from flesh, and such like ceremonies, but that is a principall point of popery now, to beléeue that men are no lesse iustified by ob­seruance of the popes commandements, then of the law of God, and to Gods law the papists adioine the precepts of the Romish church.

argument 28 Papists also accoumpt it mortall sinne, to beléeue, or doe a­gainst the popes lawes, as appeareth by the enchiridion of Nauarrus throughout but he that should goe about to proue that doctrine to be receiued by the ancient fathers, should be much puzzeled.

argument 29 Ancient catholicks beléeued, that originall sinne passed o­uer all, and Rom. 5. that through the offence of one all men were sub­iect to condemnation. but the papists Decret. Sixti 4. & sess. 5. con­cil. Trid. exempt the virgine Mary from this sinne, and commonly teach that Hieremy, and Saint Iohn Baptist were sanctified from this sinne in their mothers wombe, and by consequent not borne in originall sinne.

argument 30 Saint Lib. 1. de Orig. animae c. 9. Augustine saith, there is no middle place betwixt the kingdome of heauen and damnation. Lib. de fide. c. 3. Fulgentius like­wise doth plainly affirme, that children dying without bap­tisme, shall susteine endlesse punishments. Lib. 8. c. 16. Gregory in his Morals also saith, they shall endure perpetuall torments of hel. but the papists make places in the midde-way betwixt the place of ioy, and place of paine, and will not grant that such children shall endure sensible paines.

argument 31 Bellar. de purgat. lib. 1. Papists hold, that Christians are able to satisfie, for the temporall penalty of all sinnes: but contrarie to the ancient faith of Christians, who depended wholy vpon Christes satis­faction, and beléeued that the blood of Christ clensed them from all sinnes, and that his sacrifice onely was propitiatorie for the sinnes of the whole world.

argument 32 Thomas Aquinas and other papists say, that veniall sinnes are done away with holy water, but contrary to antiquity.

argument 33 The ancient fathers did not beléeue, that any rule was more absolute then the Gospell, or that perfection consisted in the rules of Benet of Nursia, Francis, Dominike, Ignatius Loyo­la and such like fellowes, rather than in the doctrine of the [Page 58] Gospell. but the papists say, that the life of monkes and fri­ers is a state of perfection, and that their rules doe teach per­fection; which praise they will not allow to the Gospel.

argument 34 The ancient Christians beléeued the doctrine of Christ Ie­sus, who taught vs, Iohn 3. that hee that beleeueth in him should not perish: and of the Rom. 5. apostle, that saith, that being iustified by faith we haue peace with God. but the late papists speake basely of faith, making it a bare assent, and teaching, that the diuels and wicked men haue true faith: which is not onely new, but also strange. for if they haue faith, then are they iustified. fur­ther they should beléeue remission of sinnes and eternall life: which I doe not thinke, that our aduersaries will grant.

argument 35 We doe not reade before Gregory the 7. his time, that any pope tooke on him to dispence with subiects othes of allgeance, or taught, that it was lawfull so to do. for his Lib. 2. regest. & Ioseph. ve­stan. deoscul. pedum pontif. determination it seemeth to be, quod papa à fidelitate subiectos possit absol­uere. but since that the popes haue taught this doctrine, and Pius the fift that lousie companion not onely discharged her Maiesties subiects from their obedience, but Bulla Pij 5. contra Elizab. threatned ex­communication against such, as would still obey her.

argument 36 The apostles and ancient bishops of Rome did neuer cano­nize saints▪ but now popes doe not onely canonize saints very impudently, but also hire their proctors as impudently to de­fend it. Op. Catechist. de 3. praecept. c. 11. Canisius teacheth, that vnder the commandement of sanctifying the Sabaoth is conteined the obseruation of holi­daies, and feastes of Saints. and no doubt but he meaneth all the feasts of saints, whom the pope hath canonized.

argument 37 The precepts of the Romish church, as they are called, are but new deuises. for first if we séeke all antiquity, we shall not finde where the church of Christ hath commanded vs to kéepe this popes day, or that popes day, this saints day, or that saints day, and that it is sinne to worke vpon holy daies dedicated to saint Dominike, saint Francis, or other such like good fellowes daies. secondly, Christs church neuer enioined Christians to heare popish masses, and such like idolatrous seruice. for how could the ancient church enioine men to heare that, which of late onely was coined? nay contrariwise the Can. apost. 9. & 10. ancient church forbad Christians to depart from the church, before they had receiued the communion: which quite ouer­throweth [Page 59] priuate masses. thirdly it is not to be prooued, that the ancient church commanded Christians to fast lent by ab­steining from flesh and white meats after the Romish fashi­on, or, to absteine from meat the imber daies, or vigiles of saints. for saint Epist. 86. ad Casulanum. Augustine directly affirmeth, that the apo­stles neuer made law concerning fasting. and when Christi­ans obserued lent, they were not forced either to absteine from flesh, or to fast euery sunday in lent, nor were permitted to drinke wine, and eat all swéet meates and dainties on their fasting daies. fourthly we find not, that in the ancient church, men were commanded to come to auricular confession once euery yéere at the least. for that was first decréed by Innocent the third, as appeareth by the chapter, omnis vtriusque. de poenit. & remiss. finally the ancient church did not forbid Chri­stians to solemnize marriages, as of late time the Romish church hath done in regard of holinesse of times, and for that maried men cannot so well serue God, as those that for­sweare them. such humane doctrines therefore our Sauiour Christ condemneth, and such voluntary worships the holy a­postle misliketh. neither can such additions of humane pre­cepts binding mens conscience stande either with the liberty of Christians, or perfection of gods law.

argument 38 The doctrine of purgatory for satisfaction to be made for temporall punishments due for mortall sinnes, which the pa­pists doe holde, was not knowne in ancient time. Augu­stine maketh a question, whether any purgatory is after this life, and Gregory the dialogist séemeth to grant, that small sinnes are purged after this life. but that men doe satisfie for temporall punishments in purgatory, neither of them doeth once affirme. neither was any such thing knowen or taught before the conuenticles of Florence and Trent, the first foun­ders of this deuice in the church.

argument 39 The solemnity of the yeare of Iubiley amongst Christians was first ordeined by Boniface the 8. and afterward altered by Clement the 5. and last of all brought to 25. yeares by Paule the second, but not borrowed from Christians, but ei­ther from the heathen, that euery hundred yéeres had solemne plaies called Iudos seculares, to which these plaies and page­ants of Romish indulgences may well be resembled, or from [Page 60] the Iewes, that euery fifty yeares celebrated a Iubiley, and now agréeing neither with Iewes, Gentiles, nor ancient Chri­stians. the popes also, when they please grant extraordinarie Iubileies, and as great pardons, as are granted the very yeare of Iubiley.

argument 41 That the popes indulgences depend vpon late lawes, and authority without proofe out of scriptures, or fathers, it appea­reth by the defences made by the principall patrons of indul­gences. those also, that are not altogether past shame confesse so much. Art. 18. ad­uers. assert. Luther. Fisher sometime bishop of Rochester saith, that be­fore purgatory was feared, no man sought for indulgences. he confesseth also, that in the beginning of the church there was no vse of them. quamdiu saith he, nulla fuerat de purgatorio cura, nemo quaesiuit indulgentias. and againe, in initio nascen­tis ecclesiae nullus fuerat earum vsus. as for indulgences for not onely hundreds but also thousands of yeares, neither Bellar­mine nor Parsons can alledge either good proofe, or ancient pre­cedent.

argument 42 The taxe of the popes chancery for the dispatch of pardons for murders, parricides, rapes, adulteries, incestes, sodomitry, yea apostacy and Iewish and Turkish blasphemies, I doe not thinke, that the most shamelesse Iebusite in the whole order will auow to be ancient.

argument 43 Scholasticall diuinitie, which is nothing else, but a mix­ture of fathers authorities, philosophicall subtilties, and popes decretals, began but from Peter Lombard, some eleuen hun­dred and odde yéeres after Christ. how then can the Romish faith, that relieth wholly vpon this diuinity be accounted an­cient?

argument 44 Lib. 1. de verb. dei. c. 3. Bellarmine saith, that the new testament is nothing els, but the loue of God shed into our hearts by the holy Ghost. which argueth, that the Gospell and new Testament of papists, is a new Gospell differing much from that of Christ Iesus. for Christs Testament was established in his blood, and is a coue­nant concerning remission of sinnes most especially. but chari­ty is wrought by the holy Ghost in those, that are alreadie reconciled by the blood of the new Testament. Chrysostome, Theodoret, and others, writing vpon the second epistle to the Corinthians, chap. 3. say, that the spirit quickning is the grace [Page 61] of God, that remitteth our sinnes. and that charity is not the new testament, it is most euident, for that then Christ had died in vaine, and then we might haue had the new testament esta­blished by the law, that requireth charity, and not by the te­stament in Christ his blood, which is a declaration of Christ his satisfaction and remission of sinnes.

argument 45 The same Lib. 2. de pon­tif. Rom. c. 12. man teacheth vs, that it is a matter of faith to be­leeue, that the pope hath succeeded Peter in the gouernment of the vniuersall church. but this is new, and neuer heard of in the ancient church of Christ. is it not then a new Christian faith, which these new vpstart Iebusites defend?

argument 46 That there are iust seuen sacraments, and neither more nor lesse, albeit the same was talked of in the instruction of the Ar­menians in the conuenticle of Florence, yet it séemeth to bée first established by the conspirators of Sess. 7. Trent. for neither can Bellarmine, nor any of that faction shew any authenticall law of greater antiquitie for the ioint, and iust number of sacra­ments, then the authoritie of the instruction of the Armenians, deliuered in the name of the councell of Florence, and the con­uenticle of Trent. is it not then a new religion, that hath so new sacraments?

argument 47 The papists also teach vs, that the sacraments conteine grace, and doe iustifie those, that are partakers of them. but since the world began it was neuer heard of, till of late idle monkes and friers began to resolue it, that Christians were iu­stified by orders, confirmation, matrimony and extreme vnction. let Bellarmine or any papist, if he can, prooue, that men are iustified by these sacraments. if he cannot, then can it not be denied, but as the papists deuise new meanes of iustifi­cation, so they deuise vs a new religion.

argument 48 That the formes of confirmation and extreme vnction are new, it appeareth by the decrées of the Trent councell and in­struction of the Armenians fathered on the councell of Florence. if any deny this, he must shew, where these words, signo te sig­no crucis, & confirmo te chrismate salutis: were receiued by a­ny authority before; and where the words and greasings of diuers parts of the body vsed in extreame vnction were esta­blished by the church. Wherein to auoid cauilles, I would haue Robert Parsons, and his seditious brood of rebelles to [Page 62] marke, that I deny not, but that idle schoolemen might prate of such matters before. but I say, the same was not before those times confirmed by law, nor generally receiued. would he please to try his strength in demonstrating the contrary, he should soone be forced to confesse, that I say true.

argument 49 That spirituall gossips may not intermary, and that such mariages being once contracted should be of no force, is also a new doctrine flowing from the stinking sinke of popery.

argument 50 It is also new doctrine, that man and wife by consent may depart asunder, and enter into monasticall religion, and that mariages contracted may be dissolued by putting on a monkes or friers coule, and lastly, that children may abandon their parents, and follow Iebusites, and other monkes and firiers, where vnder pretence of religion they commit all abo­mination, and serue for bardassaes, and Ganimedes to this new race of sodomites. that this doctrine is new, it appeareth by Bellarmines weake dispute of monkes, and in my treatise against the stinking orders of friers and monkes: which be­cause Cardinall Bellarmine is not now at laisure to answere, I would pray Robert Parsons, because he taketh on him to be learned, or some other of his scholars, to vndertake to refute.

argument 51 The apostles and ancient fathers did neither vse candle, salt nor spittle, nor that maner of blowing, nor greasing, that the papists now vse in baptisme. and that a man may see without a candle, and shall be proued godwilling hereafter, when I come to gripe my aduersary, that taketh exception to this point.

argument 52 The ancient church of Christ was neuer wont to coniure salt & water, nor to say In missal. Rom. c. benedict. diuersae. exorizo te creatura salis, &c. vt efficia­ris sal exorcizatum in salutem credentium, & sis omnibus su­mentibus te sanitas animae & corporis. neither did Christians in times past pray, that holy water might serue to cast out di­uels, to driue away diseases, and to clense mens houses from vn­cleane spirits, could Robert Parsons be at leisure, and leaue dreaming of Cardinals hats, he might doe a great pleasure to shew vs this coniuration of salt and holy water out of some holy mens writings.

argument 53 It is also a mere nouelty, if not foolery, that the priest sprin­cles the altar, and the whole assistance with water, and Ibidem. saith [Page 63] asperges me domine hyssopo, & mundabor. for the water sprin­kle is not made of hyssop, nor is the priest so honest a man as Dauid, nor can drops of water clense his faults.

argument 54 It is also in Christian religion a nouelty to consecrate the flesh of paschal lambes, and cannot be proued to haue bene long practised in the Romish church. but now since the priests of Baal are proued shéepe stealers, they to satisfie the owners losses consecrate the flesh of lambs.

argument 55 The In ordinar. missae. blessing also of incense by the intercession of Michael the archangel, as the papists vse it in their masse, sauoreth not onely of superstition, but also of nouelty.

argument 56 The swinging also of the chalice, and host about the priests head, and crossing of all sides of both, as it is in the missall of Sarum, and partly in the Romish missal, is both superstitious and new.

argument 57 The ancient fathers neuer taught, that either the body and blood of Christ were really vnder the accidents of bread and wine, or that the accidents of bread and wine did subsist without a subiect. for that was first decréed in the councell of Constance, though idelly talked of before.

argument 58 Neither did they euer imagine that a dogge, or a hogge, or a mouse swallowing a consecrate host, did also swallow Christ Iesus God and man, and his very body, as some of the schoole­men teach. for that were not onely to cast precious stones be­fore hogges, but to blaspheme the most holy name of Iesus: and to bring Christian religion into contempt,

argument 59 They neuer beléeued, that Christs true body was inuisible, and impalpable. for well they remembred Christes words to his disciples; Videte & palpate. but how can this be truely said, if as the papists teach, he were in the sacrament inuisible and impalble?

argument 60 In the fathers writings we neuer read, where this word species doth signifie lightnesse, roundnesse, smoothnesse, hard­nesse, swéetnesse, relish and all other accidents of the sacramen­tall signes, as the papists beléeue and teach.

argument 61 The doctrine of Transubstantiation was first established by C. firmiter. de sum. trenit. & fide cath. Innocent the third and his consorts, about the yéere of our Lord 1212. this mystery therefore of transubstantiation is not so ancient.

argument 62 The ancient fathers did neuer beléeue, that euery masse­priest did worke thrée seuerall miracles, as oft as he did conse­crate, as the authors of the Tridentine catechisme do teach.

argument 63 Nor did they beléeue, that the same humane body was in heauen, in earth, and euery altar, all at one time, as our pa­pists, that are more corporall than spirituall, teach.

argument 64 In the ancient church, those that receiued the sacrament of the Lords body, receiued also the cup. neither is the prohibiti­on of the cup more ancient than the wicked councell of Con­stance.

argument 65 Then also the priest neuer receiued alone, nor did Christi­ans looke on, while the priest ate and dranke all. for this was contrary to Christes institution, and the nature of the sacra­ment, that was instituted for a 1. Cor. 10. signe of our mutuall coniunc­tion one with another. and the contrary custome is refuted by all ancient liturgies. but now the priest eateth and drinketh all alone by himselfe: and the rest depart fasting, or at the least without the sacrament of the cup.

argument 66 In ancient time, the Lords supper was accounted no sacri­fice for quicke and dead, but a holy sacrament, wherein a me­moriall of Christes sacrifice on the crosse is celebrated, as S. Augustine teacheth, and I haue shewed at large in my treatise De missa against Bellarmine. but now, as if Christ had not said, take, eat, drinke, they offer it for those, that can neither take, nor eat, nor drinke.

argument 67 The ancient church had no seuerall masses for warre, for peace, for bridegromes, for mariners, for hogges, for the plague, and for all times and occasions, as now the Missal. Rom. Paris. & Sa­rum. Roma­nists haue.

argument 68 There were no masses in the primitiue church made in ho­nor of saints, of angels, of the virgine Mary. nay in the old for­mulary of the church of Rome some seuen hundred or eight hundred yéeres agone, there are no masses of this new cut.

argument 69 The parts of the masse were framed piecemeale, long after the age of the learned fathers of the church, as I haue prooued in my fift booke De missa, against Bellarmine, which I recom­mend to Robert Parsons for a cordiall, or a scarlet stomacher, to warme himselfe withall, requesting him to shape vs an an­swere.

argument 70 The sacrament of the Lords supper in olde time was neuer administred in a tongue not vnderstood. for that is the late pleasure of the trenchant fathers of Trent.

argument 71 The ancient fathers neuer praied to our Lady after the new Romish fashion, nor said, Sancta Maria ora pro nobis, & nunc & in hora mortis. nor thought it lawfull to say,

Breuiar. Rom. & offic. beatae Mariae.
Maria mater gratiae, mater misericordiae
tu nos ab hoste protege, & hora mortis suscipe.

argument 72 Neither did Christians in olde time chant such Letanies, as now are vsuall in the Romish missals and breuiaries, say­ing, Sancte Michael, sancte Gabriel, sancte Raphael; nor sancta Maria Magdalena, sancta Agnes, sancta Agatha; nor omnes sancti & sanctae intercedite pro nobis.

argument 73 In ancient Vid. ordinem Rom. missals, the praier, memento, for the dead, is not in the canon. the ancient fathers did neuer vse such a form.

argument 74 In ancient time it would haue bene thought very strange, to pray in a tongue not vnderstood: especially when the apo­stle 1. Cor. 14. teacheth vs, that it profiteth nothing.

argument 75 The psalter of our lady, and her peculier offices, are not to be iustified by ancient precedents.

argument 76 If any had bene taken praying to a stocke or stone, he would haue bene condemned for an idolater. but now papists com­monly pray to images of wood and stone, and to the crosse they say, auge pijs iustitiam, reisque dona veniam: which although it may be thought sottish and sencelesse, yet will they not haue it counted idolatrous.

argument 77 Christ forbadde vs to vse battologies, or often repetitions in our praiers. but the papists neither regarding his doctrine, nor the practise of the ancient church, in their psalter of Iesu re­peat the name of Iesu infinit times. they reherse also infinit Aue Mariaes and Pater Nosters.

argument 78 In the Missale of Salsbury, the priest saith to the sacrament Aue. he boweth also to it, contrary to the ancient churches practise.

argument 79 The Rosaries and beades of our lady containing 63. Aue Mariaes and 7. Pater Nosters, which are now much reckoned of in Spaine and Italy, as appeareth by the manuall of Gerony­mo Campos are but new tricks of late popes, and superstitious priests to catch mony.

argument 80 In time past Christians were wont to entombe holy mar­tyrs, and to call vpon God at their tombes, and monuments. But of late time the blinde papists haue digged the saints out of their graues, and thinke it religion to call vpon them, and to kisse rotten bones, and ragges, yea sometimes which be­long not to the saints, to whome they are attributed.

argument 81 The papists also worship wicked men, as George of Cap­padocia an Arrian hereticke, Thomas Becket an impure fellow, and a traitor to his country, La fulmi­nante. Ieames Clement the murderer of his liege soueraine, Campian and Sherwin, and such as died in England for notorious treasons.

argument 82 Neither are they ashamed to call the sacrament their lord and god, as appeareth by the words of Alane in his treatise de sacrific. euchar c. 41. and Bristow in his 26. motiue: which they cannot iustifie by testimony of antiquity.

argument 83 They also worship the sacrament with diuine honour, as if God, and the sacrament were one person. the priest after consecration doth adore it, as it is in the rubrike of the Missal. Rom. missal, and boweth his knee vnto it. they hang the sacrament vpon the altar with light before it, and cary it about with lightes, and bells, and great solemnity. all which Robert Parsons will not proue to be practised by the ancient church of Christ. nay when he goeth about it, he shall finde that the principall au­thors of this idolatry were Honorius the 3. Vrbane the 4. and Clement the fift men of late time and leud stampe.

argument 84 To the crosse they say, ô crux aue spes vnica: and, venite adoremus, as is proued by the Romish portesse sabbat. in hebd, 4. quadrages. and booke of ceremonies and pontificall, in die parasc. neither are they ashamed to confesse, that latria, or diuine worship is due to the crosse; albeit all antiquity ab­horred such grosse idolatry.

argument 85 They worship the images of god the father, of god the sonne, and god the holy ghost, and the whole trinity with latria, or di­uine worship, as may be gathered by their practise, by the de­crée of the conuenticle of Trent, the 25. session, by the testimo­ny of Suares in 3. part. Thom. tom. 1. disp. 54. sect. 4. and of vellosillus in aduertent. in. 5. tom. Hieronym. ad 10. quae sit. which the ancient fathers neuer did. nay the idola­trous second councell of Nice, allowed not this supreme wor­ship [Page 67] of Latria to be due to any images.

argument 86 Gregory the first in a certaine epistle to Serenus, declareth, that albeit images are not to be broken downe and vtterly a­bolished out of churches; yet they are not to be worshipped. Epiphanius vtterly condemneth the hauing of them in church­es. and to that effect the councell of Eliberis in Spaine made a solemne Can. 36 act. Placuit say the fathers of that councell, picturas in ecclesia esse non debere, ne quod colitur, aut adoratur in pa­rietibus depingatur. but now the papists not onely place them in churches, but also adore them and worship them.

argument 87 Antiquity neuer burnt incense to images, nor kissed them, nor bowed downe to them, nor said their praiers before them. for that is repugnant to the second commandement, and is de­rogatory to Gods honor. but the papists now doe all this, and thinke it piously doone also.

argument 87 In ancient time Christians serued God in spirit and trueth according to the saying of our sauiour Iohn 4. but the religion of papists consisteth in eating of redde herrings and salt fish, in abstinence from flesh and white meats, in knocking, knée­ling, greasing shauing, washing, ducking, crouching, crossing and such like outward ceremonies.

argument 88 The ancient fathers did neuer take the bishop of Rome to be head, or foundation of the church. for well they remembred, that our Sauiour Christ is the head of the church, and Saui­our of his body: and 1. Cor. 3. that no man can lay other foundation, then that which is laid, which is Christ Iesus. and that the church is built vpon the apostles and prophets, Christ Iesus being the corner stone: but vpon apostles and prophets be­cause they preach vnto vs Christ Iesus. but the papists now teach, that the pope is both the foundation and the head of the church. for that doth Bellarmine teach in his preface before his bookes de Pontifice Rom. and in the second booke chap. 31. of that treatise. neither doe I thinke that any papists will de­nie it.

argument 89 Neither did they call the pope in ancient time the spouse of the church. for that doeth onely belong to Christ. adiunxi vos vni viro saith the apostle, 2. Corinth. 10. ad exhibendam virgi­nem castam Christo. but the papists C. vbi pericu­lum. de elect. in sexto. doe not sticke to call the pope the spouse of the church. and Bellarmine of his liberalitie [Page 68] doeth giue the pope that title, lib. 2. de Pontif. Rom. c. 31. and the pope like a good fellow taketh the same to himselfe. c. quo­niam de immunitat. in 6. nos iustitiam nostram, saith he, & ec­clesiae sponsae nostrae nolentes negligere.

argument 90 The ancient fathers neuer called the pope, vniuersall bishop. for Lib. 4. ep. 32. Gregory the first doeth much mislike that title, and cal­leth it sacrilegious, and profane. and a certeine councell of A­frica cited by Gratiam, dist. 99. c. primaesedis. importeth, that the bishop of Rome should not be called vniuersall. but now euery lousie frier made pope will be called vniuersall bishop, and the papists dare not deny him this title.

argument 91 Ancient Christians neuer called the pope god, nor supre­mum numen in terris. but the canonistes doe not sticke to call him, and honor him as God, as appeareth by the chapter sa­tis. dist. 96. and by Augustine Steuchus in lib. de donat. Con­stantini. and Stapleton in his epistle dedicatory before his booke intituled doctrinalia principia, calleth him supremum numen in terris, that is the soueraigne god of the world.

argument 92 In ancient time the church was gouerned by the lawes of councels, and Christian emperors, as appeareth by the acts of councels, and lawes of Iustinians Code. it appeareth also, that in the time of Charles the great, and his sonnes, the church was gouerned for externall matters by lawes of princes. but now the popes exclude both emperors, kings and princes, and take on them the sole gouernment of the vniuersall church.

argument 93 In the councell of Constance it was holden, that the coun­cell was aboue the pope. the same also appeareth, for that di­uers popes haue answered, and some haue béene deposed by councels. but now the papists holde contrary, and say, that the pope is aboue the councell. neither doe they allow any councels, to be authenticall, but such as are called and confir­med by the pope.

argument 94 The apostles & their successors were subiect to emperors & princes, and paid tribute vnto them. the apostle S. Paul taught all bishops and priests to be subiect to higher powers. but now they hold, that the pope is aboue all princes and kings what­soeuer. Papa est dominus dominantium saith In c. ecclesia. vt lite pendente. Baldus, & ius regis regum habet in suos subditos. and De pontific. Rom. lib. 5. Bellarmine holdeth, [Page 89] that the pope hath power to depose kings, and to take their crownes from them.

argument 95 The apostles and their successors in ancient time exhorted subiects to obedience. now the popes of late haue exhorted subiects to rebellion, as appeareth by their execrable bulles a­gainst Henry the 8. king of England, and his daughter Eliza­beth now reigning. against Henry the 3. of France, and a­gainst diuers emperors.

argument 96 In ancient time bishops spoke reuerently of kings and princes, and in the C. 83. canons of the apostles the censure of de­position is inflicted vpon such of the clergy, as vtter words of reproch against princes. but now the popes raile against prin­ces, as is euident by their wicked bulles, and when railing will not serue, by assassins, and murdrers hired and aposted they séeke to cut their throates. as appeareth by the fact of Iames Clement, that murdred Henry the 3. Chastell that as­saulted Henry the 4. of France, and diuers assassins hired to kill our noble Quéene.

argument 97 Before Gregory the firsts time, the popes made no bishops either in England or France, or Germany, or Afrike, or Asia, but al nations and prouinces were frée from his vsurpations. neither did any bishops sweare fealty to the pope. but now all this is quite changed. and the pope claimeth a generall power to ordeine bishops ouer the world, and maketh them C. ego N. de iurtiurando. sweare fealty vnto him, as to their souereigne.

argument 98 In S. Cyprians and Augustines time, the bishops of Afrike would suffer no appeales to be made to Rome. now Bellar. disputeth, that it is a point of the popes right to heare appeales out of all the world.

argument 99 Now also the papists make the pope supreme iudge in all causes, and controuersies of faith. but the ancient church n [...] ­uer imagined, that such matters could be decided without a councell.

argument 100 The pope now C. vnam. extr. de maior. & obed. challengeth both swords. but our Sauior Christ taught, that his kingdome was not of this world: and the apostle Paul said, that the weapons of his warfare were not carnall. The ancient bishops of Rome certes neuer vsed swords, nor souldiers, but sincerely taught the Gospel.

argument 101 Vntill Boniface the ninth his time, the city of Rome was [Page 70] either vnder the emperors, or vnder her owne magistrates, as Lib. 2. de schism. Theodoric à Niem testifieth. is it not then strange, that the emperor will suffer his imperiall state, and empire to be hol­den from him, which is so lately vsurped, and by fraud inter­cepted by the pope?

argument 102 It is not long since the pope began to weare a triple crown, and to be borne on mens shoulders, and to tread on princes necks, and to make others to kisse his pantofle. Let Robert Parsons shew, that this was done before Gregory the seuenth, and Celestine the third.

argument 103 Neither is it many hundred yéeres, since the pope challen­ged annates, and tooke money of archbishops for their palles.

argument 104 The popes prouisions, reseruations, translations, and other extraordinary dispensations were vnheard of in the ancient church.

argument 105 Finally, whether we respect the foundations of popish reli­gion, or the doctrine of the Law and Gospel, or the doctrine and ceremonies concerning sacraments, praiers, and the wor­ship of God, or the gouernment and lawes of the popes cham­ber, chancery and consistory; we may boldly say, that so much as we reiect in this church, is nothing els, but a packe of no­uelties.

CHAP. III. That the papists are no true catholikes, nor holde the catholike faith, if they beleeue the popes decretals, and his schoole diuinitie.

IF false teachers, as they secretly broch erroni­ous doctrine, so would openly manifest their malicious and wicked natures; we should not néed so watchfully to looke to their procéedings, nor so earnestly to exhort all Christians to be­ware of their deceits and entisements, but sée­ing like wolues in shéeps clothing they come abroad with the names of catholiks, and catholike religion, and abuse simple people; I thinke it very necessary to take this maske from [Page 51] their false visages, and to shew, that they are woluish papists, and not Christes shéepe, or true catholiks. the which, that we may with all plainnesse and sincerity performe; we will first declare what is meant by the catholike church, which we pro­fesse in our Creed; and next, what is the catholike faith, which euery Christian is to embrace, and with all constancy to main­teine.

The catholike church therefore, is the vniuersall societie of Gods saints. and it comprehendeth all the faithfull from the beginning, vnto the end of the world. This catholike church, saith S. In Psal. 56. Augustine, is spred thorowout the world, and contei­neth not only those, that now liue, but those also, that are past, and are yet to come.

The catholike faith is the faith of Christ Iesus, which the a­postles first taught, and which all true Christians both haue holden, and do holde, and shall holde to the worlds end. In this catholike church, saith De haeres. c. 3. Vincentius Lirinensis, we are to hold that, which alwaies hath beene beleeued of all Christians. for that is truely and properly catholike. he De haeres. c. 34. teacheth vs also, that the property of catholiks is, to keepe the doctrine committed to them, and left with them by the ancient fathers, and to auoid profane nouelties. finally, he determineth, that those onely are truely and rightly called catholikes, which onely beleeue and holde that, which the catholike church in olde time did vniuer­sally holde. Saint De vera re­lig. c. 5. Augustine doth take catholikes to be no­thing els, but Christians and true beleeuers, which mainteine the sincere faith, and follow that which is right. Apud eos solos, saith he, quaerenda est religio, qui Christiani, catholici, vel or­thodoxi nominantur. he doth also oppose catholikes against heretikes. Epist. 81. ad monach. palaest. & epist. 95. Leo saith also, that there is one true, only, perfect, and inuiolable faith, whereto nothing can be added, and from which nothing can be taken.

If then the papists be hereticks, and no true beléeuers, then are they no catholikes. if they holde a faith grounded vpon pri­uate opinions of men, and not alwaies nor vniuersally holden, then doe they not holde the catholike faith. but that they holde diuers heresies and false opinions, shall be shewed in the chap­ter following. that they hold many new points altogether vn­knowen in ancient time, and when the Gospel began first to [Page 72] be preached, we haue alreadie proued and demonstrated in the last discourse.

That papists hold points of doctrine not catholike. It resteth then now, that I héere declare, that the papists mainteine diuers points of doctrine neuer generally holden of all Christians, nor vniuersally taught in the church of Christ. and that may appeare first by the doctrine of the church of Rome concerning the foundations of Christian religion. next, by the doctrine of that church, that cōcerneth both the law and the Gospell. thirdly, by the faith of the Romish church, concer­ning the sacraments. fourthly, by their faith concerning prai­er and the whole seruice of God. fiftly, by their doctrine con­cerning repentance, ordination of ministers, marriage, almes and fasting. and finally, by their doctrine concerning the church, and the gouernment of it.

argument 1 Concerning the foundations of religion, they teach first, that scriptures are an Bellar. lib. 4. de ver [...]. Dei. c. 12. vnperfect rule of faith, as hath béene decla­red in the chapter going before. and Bish. of Eu­reux. some of them haue not feared to write books, of the insufficiency of scriptures. but the 2. Tim. 3. apostle saith, they are able to make the man of God perfect and wise to saluation. and true catholikes alwaies held the ca­nonicall scriptures to be a perfect rule both for faith and ma­ners. Saint Lib. 2. de doct. Chr. c. 9. Augustine saith, that all things necessarily be­longing to faith or maners, are conteined in plaine places of scriptures.

argument 2 The papists will not allow the scriptures to conteine all that word of God, which we are now to follow, for albeit they do not in expresse termes say so much, yet it is necessarily inferred of their doctrine, where they Bellar. de verb. Dei. teach, that we haue one word of God written, and another vnwritten. and Sess. 4. con­cil. Trid. determine, that we are with equall affection to embrace vnwritten traditi­ons, and the holy scriptures. but the catholike church neuer taught, that after the writings of the prophets and apostles once perfected and published, we had a word of God vnwrit­ten, which is to be placed in equall ranke with the holy scrip­tures. Aduers. gent. Athanasius saith, that the holy and diuine scriptures are sufficient to instruct vs in all trueth. S. In Mich. 1. Hierome calleth the scriptures, the limits or bounds of the catholike church. Non est egressa de finibus suis, saith he, id est, de scripturis sanctis. What, saith Regul. 80. Basil, is the propertie of a faithfull man? forsooth [Page 93] to beleeue with certine fulnesse of minde, whatsoeuer is contei­ned in scriptures, and neither to reiect any part thereof, nor to adde any new thing vnto them. Saint Lib. de para­dis. c. 13. Ambrose saith, we may no more adde to Gods commandements, than take from them. and S. In Ioan. tra­ctat. Augustine, electa sunt quae scriberentur, quae sa­luti credentium sufficere videbantur. that is, those things are chosen out, and thought fit to be written, which séemed to be sufficient for the saluation of the faithful. and albeit the fathers mention traditions, which were sometime vnwritten; yet if they were necessary, they signifie that now they are written. Si aut in euangelio praecipitur, saith In epist. ad Pompeium. Cyprian, aut in apostolo­rum epistolis, aut actibus continetur, obseruetur diuina haec, & sancta traditio. he signifieth, that no tradition is to be admitted, vnlesse it be conteined in scriptures.

argument 3 The papists also teach, that the pope and his Sée is the foundation of the church. est Petri sedes saith In praefat. ante lib. de pontif. Rom. Bellarmine, la­pis probatus, angularis, preciosus, in fundamento fundatus. these words also he applieth to the pope, whom he calleth Christes vicar. in another Lib. 2. depont. Rom. c. 31. place he calleth the Pope, the foun­dation of the church. and Sanders in his Rocke of the church, disputeth that the pope is that rocke. is not then the Romish church a weake building, that in euery vacation is without foundation, and relieth wholly vpon one man? true Catho­likes certes, neuer applied the words of Isay ch. 8 & 28. to the pope, nor thought him to be an approoued stone, or corner stone, or a precious stone laid in the foundation of the church. the 1. Cor. 3. apostle teacheth vs, that no man can lay any other foun­dation, then that which is laid, that is Christ Iesus. and in ano­ther place he Ephes. 2. saith, that the church and citizens of saints are built vpon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Iesus Christ being the chiefe corner stone. with him also consenteth all the company of true catholikes.

argument 4 Stapleton in plaine tearmes denieth the scriptures to be the foundation of his religion. aliud hodie saith he, In praefat. an­te relect. prin­cip. doctrin. Christianae religionis fundamentum habemus. and afterward, ab ipsis li­teris euangelicis & apostolicis aliud. the same In analysi an­te relect. prin­cip. doctrin. man intreating of the sure grounds and principles of Christian religion, doeth leaue the scriptures quite out of the reckoning. but Athanasius in Synopsi, doth call the canonicall Scriptures the anchor, and [Page 94] stay of our faith. Lib. 3. aduers. haeres. c. 1. Irenaeus saith, that the apostles first preached, and afterward deliuered the Gospell in Scriptures, that they might be a foundation and pillar of our faith. the church saith Homil. 6. in Matth. Chrysostome, is Hierusalem, whose foundations are placed vpon the mountaines of the scriptures. and with them doe con­sent all true catholikes, condemning the error of the papists falsely called catholikes.

argument 5 The papists call the scriptures a killing letter, as appeareth by the Remish annotations vpon the 3. chap. of the 2. epistle to the Corinthians. as if God had deliuered his will in wri­ting, to the entent to kill them, that read them. they Annot. Rhe­mens. in Ioan. c. 5. slander them also as if they were darke, and hard to be vnderstood. finally, they disgrace them Ibidem in c. 4. Matth. saying, that the diuell and here­tikes alledge scriptures. others call them a nose of waxe, Inken diuinitie, and matter of strife and contention, and condemne the reading of scriptures, as pernicious and hurtfull. but true catholikes had alwaies a reuerent regard of holy scriptures, as the grounds of faith, and directions of holy life. Lib. 3. aduers. hares. c 2. Irenaeus saith, that it is the property of heretikes, when they are con­uinced by scriptures, to fall into dislike of them, and to accuse them. the papists therefore in this point are rather heretikes, then catholikes.

argument 6 The papists among canonicall scriptures reckon the decre­tales of popes. inter canonicas scripturas decretales epistòlae connumerantur, saith the rubrike dist. 19. c. in canonicis. and this Gratian goeth about to prooue by a place of saint Augu­stine, which he there falsifieth. this also séemeth by Gregory the 13. to be approoued in his edition of the canon law. nei­ther doe I thinke, that any papist will deny, that the popes decretales in matters of faith are to be receiued of all men. but ancient catholikes neuer had the decretals in this estimation, nor thought them to be canonicall scriptures, or grounds of faith, or infallible, as the papists call them. nay Thomas A­quinas, albeit no catholike 2. 2. q. 1. art. 1. confesseth, that the ground of Christian faith, is the first trueth, or God himselfe. and not onely Cyprian tooke exceptions against Cornelius, Ireney a­gainst Victor, the councell of Carthage against Sozimus, but also diuers catholikes against the decretales of diuers popes.

argument 7 The conuenticle of Sess. 4. Trent vnto the canon of scriptures of the olde testament, hath added not onely the books of Tobias, Iudith, Wisdome, Ecclesiasticus and of the Machabeies, but al­so such additions, as are found in the olde latine translation, albeit they be not found in the originall text. and these they place in equall ranke, and degrée with the books of the pro­phets, and apostles: which is contrary to the faith of the ca­tholicke church, as appeareth by the testimony of Hierome in his preface to the prouerbs of Salomon, in his epistle to Pau­linus, and in his generall prologue before the bible, which he calleth prologum galeatum, of Athanasius in synopsi, of Epi­phanius in his booke of waightes and measures, of Melito, of the councell of Laodicea, can 59. of the canons of the apostles. can. 84. and diuers others. neither is it materiall, that Au­gustine lib. 2. de doctr. christ. c. 8. and a certaine councell of Carthage doe reckon the books of Tobias, Iudith, Wisedome, Ecclesiasticus, and the Machabeies among the canonicall scrip­tures. for by canonicall scriptures they vnderstand such books, as by order of the church were read publickely, and commonly ioined together in one booke, and were rather for some part a canon and rule of maners, then of faith. for that may be ga­thered out of the words of Saint Augustine, and the councell, that speake rather of the books, as they were read, then as they were authenticall. Ruffine speaking of these books saith, legi voluerunt in ecclesiis; non tamen proferri ad authoritatem fi­dei ex his confirmandam. Augustine also lib. de ciuit. dei. 18. c. 36. speaking properly of canonicall scriptures excludeth the books of the Machabeies, though some churches receiue them for canonicall. Athanasius in Synopsi accounteth the 3. and 4. of Esdras as canonicall as these books. and Sixtus senensis doth not accounpt them equall to the rest of canonicall scrip­tures. finally no one catholicke writer can be produced, that alloweth the fragments and additions, that in the olde latine interpreter are added to the originall text, to be canonicall scripture. are the papists then catholicks that haue no catho­licke grounds of their faith?

argument 8 Papists allow no interpretations of scriptures against that sense, which the church of Rome holdeth, contra eum sensum, Concil. Trid. sess. 4. quem tenuit, & tenet sancta mater ecclesia. but true catholicks [Page 96] neuer allowed such senses and interpretations, as the church of Rome doth make. as for example the church of Rome be­léeueth, that Christ, when he said to Peter, pasce oues meas: gaue power to the pope to depose princes. Againe, where God saith to Hieremy, chap. 1. ecce constitui te hodie super gentes & regna: Boniface the 8. concludeth, that the pope hath power to iudge all earthly princes. and these words, ecce duo gladij hic: he C. vnam san­ctam. de maior. & obed. expoundeth so, as if the pope had two swords giuen to him. the words, deus fecit duo magna luminaria, the pope interpreteth so, as if the pope were meant by thy sonne and the emperor by the moone, and as if the pope did so farre excell the emperor, as the sonne is greater then the moone. bi­bite ex hoc omnes, they expound thus, drinke not all of this. and these words, scrutamini scripturas, they interpret, as if lay men might not search the scriptures without license of the in­quisitors. infinit such like interpretations the church of Rome hath deuised: but all contrary to the expositions of the fathers and the catholicke church.

argument 9 The conuenticle of Trent doth adiudge the old vulgar latin translation of the bible to be authenticall, and preferreth it before the originall text. but catholicks haue alwaies prefer­red the originall text before the latin translation. Saint In Epist. ad Suniam & Fretel. & ad Damasum. Hie­rome saith, that in the olde testament in matters of doubt con­cerning the translation, we must haue recourse to the Hebrew, as to the fountaine; and in the new to the Greeke. ad exempla­ria Hebrea & Graeca à latinis recurratur, saith Lib. 2. de doctr. Chr. c. 10. Augustine. Hi­lary also writing vpon the 118. psalme confesseth, that the latin translation cannot satisfie the reader.

argument 10 The Romanists C. ad abolen­dam. de haeret. adiudge all to be hereticks, which teach and hold otherwise of the sacraments, then the church of Rome determineth, and holdeth. and commonly they con­demne all, that receiue not the popes determinations concer­ning faith. but catholiks make the doctrine of Christ to be the squire of our faith. Our Matth. 28. Sauiour Christ gaue his apostles in charge, to teach what he had commanded them. the apostle likewise pronounceth him accursed, that should teach other­wise, than the Galatians had receiueth. So it appereth, that not those that taught other doctrine, than the bishops of Rome, but such as taught contrary to the apostles doctrine, yea albeit [Page 97] they were bishops of Rome, were condemned and accursed.

argument 11 The Romanists doe aswell build their faith vpon Conc [...]l. Trid. sess. 4. vnwrit­ten traditions, as the written word of God. so the papists must aswell receiue the traditions of the legends as the holie scriptures, & aswell must they beléeue the wounds of S. Fran­cis, as Christ his passion; and the miracles of S. Dominike, and other braue Romish saints, as the miracles of Christ and his apostles. for these as they holde, are traditions: and the wounds of S. Francis are confirmed by diuers decretales of popes. To this effect writeth C. sancta. dist. 15. Gelasius, and saith, Gesta san­ctorum martyrum recipimus. but true catholikes haue more certeine grounds of their faith, and would be much ashamed to beléeue such fables. nay, some of the papists haue much mis­liked these fabulous legends, as may appeare by the testimony of Dante an Italian poet, Cant. 29. and Laurence Valla in his treatise contra Donationem Constantini.

argument 12 The papists allow the legends of S. George, S. Christopher, S. Catherine, Abgarus, of the inuention of the crosse, of S. Iohn Baptists head, and diuers such like, as conteining olde traditi­ons. but true catholikes will not allow any such fables to be read in the church. nay, Gratian himselfe vnder the name of C. Sancta. dist. 15. Gelasius, doth condemne the legend of George, of Cyricus and Iulitta, Abgarus, of the inuention of the crosse, and such like.

argument 13 Alij nunc à Christo, saith In praefat. in relect. princip. doctrin. Stapleton, eorúmue doctrina, praedicatio, determinatio fundamenti apud me locum habe­bunt. that is, others beside Christ, together with their doctrine, preaching and determination, shall be accounted of me, as a foundation. The rest also beléeuing, that the popes can not erre in their determinations concerning faith, must néeds rest vpon them, as the foundation of their faith. but true catholiks build their saith onely vpon Christ, and his doctrine deliuered by the apostles and prophets.

argument 14 The church of God, and all true catholikes kéepe the doc­trine of the apostles, and holy fathers without addition and al­teration, and auoid all prophane nouelties. The Galat. 1. apostle pro­nounceth him accursed, that teacheth any other Gospel, than that which he had taught. Catholicorum hoc ferè proprium, saith Aduers. ha­res. c. 34. Vincentius, deposita sanctorum patrum & commissa ser­uare, damnare prophanas nouitates, & sicut dixit, & iterum dixit [Page 98] apostolus, si quis annunciauerit praeterquam quod acceptum est, anathematizare. If then the church of Rome and papists haue altered the apostolike and ancient fathers faith, and haue added diuers points of new doctrine vnto it, as I haue verified in the chapter going before; he doth greatly wrong the catholike faith, which calleth them catholikes.

argument 15 True catholikes beléeue in God onely. Faith, saith the Rom. 10. a­postle, is by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. De diuin. non. inib. c. 7. Dio­nyse saith, that faith hath for his obiect, the most pure, and euer being trueth. and euery catholike rehearsing his beliefe, saith, he beleeueth in God the Father, God the Sonne, and God the Holy Ghost. but the papists after a sort beléeue in the virgine Mary, in angels, and saints, and pray and confesse their sinnes vnto them. for if they beléeue not in them, how doe they call vpon them, séeing the Rom. 10. apostle saith, how shall they call on him, on whom they haue not beleeued? and why doe they confesse their sinnes vnto them, if they beléeue not, that they do vnder­stand the secrets of their hearts, and know that their confession is sincere and true? if they doe not beléeue in saints, yet I hope they will not denie, that they beléeue the determinations of the pope, and of the Romish church. In o [...]usc. con­tra errores Gracorum. Thomas Aquinas saith, it is a matter of faith to beleeue the determination of the pope. ad fidem pertinct, saith he, inhaerere determinationi pontificis fummi in his, quae sunt fidei, imò & in his, quae spectāt ad bonos mores. with him also concurreth Summa Sil­uest. in verb. fides. Siluester Prierius. He saith also further, that we are to beleeue whatsoeuer is taught by the church of Rome. Ad fidem pertinent omnia, saith he, quae sunt in doctrina ecclesiae.

argument 16 True catholiks beléeue, that Christ Iesus, as he was true God, so was he also true man, and had a body like to ours in height, bredth, and thickenesse, and that he filled the place, where his body was, as do our bodies. We must beleeue, saith S. De essentia diuinitatis. Augustine, that the Sonne of God according to his Deitie is inuisible, incorporeall, and incircumscriptible, but according to his humane nature, that he is visible, corporeall and locall. Contr. Euty­chem lib. 4. c. 4. Vigilius saith, that Christ is conteined in a place according to his humane nature, and that this is the catholike faith. Illud corpus, saith Dialog. 2. Theodoret, habet priorem formam, & figuram & circumscriptionem, & vt semel dicam, corporis substantiam. [Page 99] so likewise saith Ad Thrasy­mund. lib. 2. c. 5. Fulgentius, Si verum est corpus Christi, loco potest vti (que) contineri. If then the papists doe assigne to Christ such a body, as is neither visible, nor palpable, nor circum­scriptible in the sacrament, nor hath the dimensions of height, bredth, and depth, such as a mans body by nature hath; nor is continued to it selfe, as all bodies are, but wanteth all the pro­perties of a true bodie; then are the papists neither catholikes nor Christians. for how can they be either, that erre in things so materiall?

argument 17 Euery catholike Christian beléeueth, that our sauior Christs true body is ascended into heauen, and that he there remai­neth, and shall remaine, vntill his comming againe. he Iohn 16. told his disciples before his passion, that he must leaue the world, and goe to the father. he saith also in another Iohn 12. place, that they should not alwaies haue him with them. In the first of the Acts we reade, that his body was taken vp into heauen. the a­postle Peter also Act. 3. declareth, that the heauens must con­teine him, vntill the time, that all things be restored. and this the ancient fathers, which the aduersaries will not denie to haue béene good catholikes doe cléerely expresse. according to his diuine nature saith Tractat. 33. in Matth. Origen, he is not absent from vs, but he is absent according to the dispensation of his body, which he tooke. Saint Lib. 10. in Luc. 24. Ambrose saith, that we are not to seeke Christ either on the earth, or in the earth, or after the flesh, if we meane to finde him. Saint Tractat. 50. in Ioan. Augustine saith, he hath caried his body into heauē, although he hath not withdrawne his maiesty from the world. Homil. 21. in euangel. Gregory the first also doeth plainely affirme, that Christ is not heere on earth according to the presence of his flesh. the flesh of Christ saith Lib. 4. contr. Eutych. Vigilius writing against Eu­tyches, when it was on earth, surely was not in heauen, and now because it is in heauen, certeinly it is not on earth. neither did euer any catholike father teach otherwise. are the papists then catholikes, trow you, that contrary to the catholike fa­thers, and catholike faith, teach, that Christes true bodie is both in heauen, and in earth, and vpon euery altar at one time? and doe you call them catholikes, that affime that Christs true body properly may not onely be touched, and re­ceiued into mens mouthes, but also deuoured of dogges, and mise, and other beasts, that eate consecrated hostes?

argument 18 All true catholikes firmely beléeue, that their sinnes are forgiuen them for Christes sake, and that they shall obteine eternall life according to these two articles of the Créed, I beleeue the remission of sinnes, and life euerlasting. for as the apostle saith, Heb. 6. God hath promised and sworne, that we should haue firme comfort. and saint 1 Iohn 5. Iohn saith: these things I write vnto you, that beleeue, in the name of God, that you may know, that you haue eternall life. and whosoeuer belée­ueth not this, as Ibidem. he testified, maketh God a liar. The apostle Rom. 5. Paule saith, that he that is iustified by faith, hath peace with God. but what peace can we haue, vnlesse we beléeue that our sinnes are forgiuen, and that assuredly we shall obteine eternall life? the sacraments also, that are deliuered to euerie Christian are seales of remission of sinnes, and of the promise of eternall life. for by Baptisme we put on Christ, that is, we are made members of his body, and partakers of his merits. and in the Lords supper, our Sauiour teacheth vs, that the cup is the new Testament in his blood, and that Christs body was broken for euery one, that is a woorthy receiuer. this doctrine is also confirmed by the examples of Abraham and the apostle Paule. of Abraham we Rom. 4. reade, that he doubted not of the promise of God: and that the same was imputed to him for righteousnesse. the apostle Rom. 8. saith, that he was perswa­ded, that nothing should separate him from the loue of God. and this assurance of remission of sinnes and eternall life the catholike fathers teach vs. Si iustus es, & fide viuis, saith Serm. 4. de mortalit. Cy­prian, si verè in Christum credis; cur non cum Christo futurus, & de domini pollicitatione securus, amplecteris? Ibidem. againe he saith, that we are not to wauer, or doubt, for that God hath promised vs immortality. Saint Serm. 2 [...]. de verb. dom. Augustine writing vpon these words, thy sinnes are forgiuen thee: saith, it is faith, and not pride, to acknowledge what we haue receiued. Serm. 2. de anno [...]. Bernard saith, that we haue no promise, but by Gods fauour, and that the spirit of God worketh this in vs, that we beleeue remission of sinnes. and this doe all true catholikes beléeue. how then can the papists be catholikes, that will haue men onely to hope for remission of sinnes, and eternall life, and that not without doubting? or what are we to hope of the Sess. 6. doctors of Trent, that prouounce them accursed, that shall say, that a man must [Page 101] certeinly beleeue, that his sinnes are forgiuen him? finally how shall we beléeue, that those are true beléeuers, that teach Chri­stians not to beleeue remission of sinnes, or eternall life, but to doubt of both.

argument 19 All true catholikes beléeue, that the faithfull presently vpon their departure out of this life, are happy, and enter into ioies, that neuer shall haue end, as the wicked and vnbeléeuers are presently to enter into euerlasting fire, and begin to suffer end­lesse paines. these shall goe into euerlasting paine, and the righ­teous shall presently possesse the kingdome of heauen prepared for them, as may appeare by the sentence of our sauior Matth. 25. the Rom. 8. apostle doth also plainly testifie, that there is no con­demnation to those, that are in Christ Iesus. the spirit of God doth likewise Apocal. 14. pronounce them blessed, that die in the Lord. and the reason is added, for that they rest from their labours. and this likewise is the faith of the catholicke fathers. Ecclesiast. hi­erarch. c. 7. Dio­nyse saith, that the godly when they come to the end of their liues, shall rest in Abrahams bosome: and signifieth, that there shall be no griefe nor sadnesse nor sighing. Quaest. 75. Iustine Martyr holdeth, that the soules of good men shall presently be caried into paradise. both Lib. 1. aduers. haeres. c. 2. Irenaeus and Serm. de mor­talit. Cyprian likewise make onely two sorts of soules departed, whereof the first are in blisse, the second in paines and endlesse misery. and that is al­so confirmed by the confession of our aduersaries in the ca­non of the masse, where they pray for those, that sleepe in a sleepe of peace. but the papists teach, that all that haue not satisfied here for temporall punishments must be plonged in the vnspeakable paines of purgatory, and so after a time passe to heauen.

argument 20 All catholicks beléeue, that Christ hath reconciled vs to his father, and that he hath satisfied for our sinnes fully and per­fectly. the Isay. 53. prophet saith, that we are healed by his stripes. ipse volneratus est saith he, propter iniquitates nostras, attritus est propter scelera nostra, disciplina pacis nostrae super eum. we may therefore well accounpt them no catholicks, that Bellar. lib. 1. de purgat. teach, that Christians are to satisfie for the temporall punnishment of their owne sinnes either here or in purgatory: the which is no where deliuered by the fathers of the church.

argument 21 True catholicks neuer made the image of God the father [Page 102] or the holy ghost. nor did euer the godly fathers how downe to grauen images or worship them. the Exod. 20. commandement of God is direct against such images. thou shalt not make to thy selfe any grauen image, &c. thou shalt not bow downe vnto it, nor worship it. Lib. 2. insti­tut. c. 19. Lactantius saith, that there is no religion, where grauen images are. religio nulla est, vbîcunque simulachrum est. The papists therefore, that make the images of God, and worship them, are no catholicks, nor haue any good religion. neither can it auaile them, that they say, they worship not the matter of the image. for so did the gentils answere in ex­cuse of their idolatry, as testifieth Institut. lib. 2. c. 2. Lactantius.

argument 22 True catholicks beléeue, that by the law we know sinne, and that 1. Iohn 5. all vnrighteousnesse is sinne, and thirdly that Deut. 27. & Galat. 3. he is accursed, that abideth not in all things, that are written in the booke of the law to doe them. if then the papists teach, that all is not sinne, that is repugnant to Gods law, as the Iebusits doe in the censure of Coleine fol. 26. and as others doe, that it is not sinne in this world, not to loue God withall our heart, and all our soule, which is commanded by the law of God; then are they no catholicks.

argument 23 Catholicks holde, that we haue but one lawgiuer and iudge, that is able to destroy and to saue. vnus est legislator, & index saith Saint Iacob. 4. Iames, qui potest perdere & liberare. that the transgression of the popes lawes, is sufficient to condemn vs, and the obseruance of them to iustifie vs, as papists holde, was neuer generally taught or holden.

argument 24 Catholicks holde, that Gods law is perfect, and that no­thing is sinne, but that, which is repugnant to the law of God. but papists beléeue, that it is sinne, not onely to neglect the precepts of the church, as they are called, but also the lawes and decretales of popes, as appeareth by the enchiridion of Nauarrus, and other books of cases of conscience.

argument 25 The law of God Exod. 20. saith directly, Thou shalt not couet. and catholikes doe expound this law so, that it bindeth the regene­rat, aswel as ye vnregenerat; as appeareth by the words of the apostle, Rom. 7. I should not haue knowen sinne, saith he, but by the law. for I knew not concupiscence, but because the law said, Thou shalt not couet. and this sinne he confesseth to be mortall, Who, saith he, shall deliuer me from the body of this [Page 103] death? S. Lib. 2. contr. Faustum Ma­nich. c. 27. Augustine also teacheth, that whatsoeuer is desired or coueted against the law, is sinne. and very absurd it is, to surmise that baptisme should sanctifie concupiscence, and of sinne in the vnregenerate to make no sinne. The conuenticle of Trent therefore, that Sess. 5. determineth, that concupiscence in the regenerate is not sinne, and all adherents vnto it, are no ca­tholikes.

argument 26 The scriptures teach vs, that euen the iust man falleth se­uen times a day, and as the apostle saint Iames saith, that we offend all in many things. our Sauiour Christ taught his apo­stles to pray for remission of sinnes, and to confesse, when they had done all they could, that they were notwithstanding vnprofitable seruants. so likewise teach catholike fathers. Saint Lib. 1. aduers. Pelag. Hierome saith, that then we are iust, when we confesse our sinnes. and saint De spirit. & lit. Augustine signifieth, that in the frailtie of this life we can not perfectly performe Gods law. we shall then saith he, performe the law of God, with all our soule, and all our heart, and loue our neighbour as our selfe, when we shal see God face to face. the papists therefore that teach, first that the regenerate are able to performe the law of God perfectly, and secondly, that they are also able to performe more then is commanded, and to doe works of supererogation, are no ca­tholikes: nor shall they euer be able to prooue, that this doc­trine of theirs was generally holden by the fathers, and by all Christians, or by any man of note.

argument 27 The apostle teacheth vs, that the law is the minister of death, and Lib. 3. aduers. haeres. c. 20. Irenaeus affirmeth, that the law being spirituall doth one­ly manifest sinne, and not kill it. the papists therefore that hold, that all our life and saluation doeth consist in the law, as ap­peareth by the censure of Coleyn, are no catholikes.

argument 28 The councell of Sess. 6. c. 10. Trent condemneth those that say, they are iustified formally by Christes iustice: and their meaning is, that we are formally iustified by charity, and by the works of the law. but the catholike church teacheth vs farre otherwise. no flesh faith the Galat. 2. apostle, is iustified by the works of the law. he denieth also, that Rom. 4. Abraham was iustified by the works of the law. and saint Lib. 1. aduers. Pelag. Hierome saith, that our iustice doeth not con­sist in our merits, but in the mercy of God. this also is prooued by an inuincible reason, for that none are iustified by the law, [Page 104] but such as performe the law, and are not to be accused of sinne by the law. but if our aduersaries will say, that all that shall be saued are such, they will bring the number of them, into a small compasse. for as De inter pellat. Dauid. Ambrose saith, Dauid doeth acknow­ledge his sinne, and Paule doeth acknowledge himselfe guiltie. who is then innocent?

argument 29 The apostle Rom. 5. teacheth vs, that through the offence of one all men were subiect to condemnation. and that is the doctrine of all catholikes. but the Bellar. lib. 4. de amissi. grat. c. 15. papists exempt the holy virgine Mary from originall sinne, as appeareth by the determination of Sixtus 4. and conuenticles of Trent doctrine, sess. 5. some of them also hold, that the prophet Heremy, and saint Iohn Bap­tist were sanctified from this sinne, and so borne without origi­nall sinne, at the least.

argument 30 Catholikes hold, that original sinne is a great sinne, as infec­ting all by ordinary course descending from Adam, & excluding them out of the kingdome of heauen, and which could not be purged, but by Christes passion. but the papists hold, that it is the least of all sinnes, as hauing the least force of our frée­will, and that it deserueth not sensible paines in hell. which in effect is as much, as if they should deny, that all men sin­ned originally in Adam, or néeded to be saued from sensible paines by Christ.

argument 31 The Th. Aquin. & dd. in 2. sent. dist. 33. & Bel­lar. de amis. grat. lib. 6. c. 4. papists also teach, that children departing without baptisme, and with originall sinne onely, shall not be punished with hell fire, nor with sensible paines. as if at the last iudge­ment all that stand on the left hand, as it is written in the 25. chap. of saint Matth. shall not by the sentence of the iudge, be adiudged to euerlasting fire or as if that sinne, that brought condemnation vpon all, should not be punished with sensible paines: or as if there might be a place in hell without sensible paines; or finally, as if there were a middle state betwixt, heauen and hell fire. Saint Lib. 1. de orig. animae c. 9. Augustine certes saith, there is no middle place betweene the kingdome of heauen, and the place of the damned. Lib. de fide. c. 3. Fulgentius likewise doeth plainely af­firme, that children dying without baptisme shall susteine end­lesse punishments. and Lib. 8. moral. c. 16. Gregory the first holdeth, that such shall endure the perpetuall torments of hell.

argument 32 Martin ab Aspilcueta in his Enchiridion, writing vpon the [Page 105] first precept of the law, chap. 11. saith, that it is mortall sinne for a lay man to dispute of matters of faith. but catholikes doe not acknowledge any such matter to be mortall sinne.

argument 33 The papists teach, that men haue grace conferred on them by their owne acts, ex opere operato, and that they are iustified ex opere operato by the sacraments of the new law; whereup­on it followeth, that by the signe of the crosse in confirmation, by orders, matrimony, and extreme vnction men receiue cha­ritie (for that is the grace they speake of) and are iustified ex­opere operato. for this doeth Bellarmine dispute, lib. 2. de effectu sacrament. cap. 3. and 14. and other chapters follow­ing. which doctrine if they doe prooue; then ex opere operato, let him take the grace of the popedome. if he doe not prooue, he must néedes confesse, that the doctrine of papists is not catho­like.

argument 34 The Iebusites in the censure of Colein teach, that the rege­nerat after baptisme haue no sinne, and it followeth necessarily of their doctrine of iustification by the works of the law. for by them a man can not be both vniust and iust at one time. but the cathotike faith is otherwise. S. Iohn saith, that they de­ceiue themselues, that say they haue no sinne. and other scrip­tures signify, Prouerb. 20. that no man can say, his hart is cleane. neither is this to be vnderstood of veniall sinnes, which the papists say, may be done away without repentance. for S. Lib. 2. aduers. Pelagian. Hierome saith, that the most iust man, in some things standeth in need of Gods mercy. and it is apparent, for that euery man transgres­sing the law of God, which is the case of all men, maketh him­selfe subiect to the curse of the law, and to the wrath of God.

argument 35 Papists teach, that some sinnes are done away with holy wa­ter, and without repentance; and deserue not death. but no ca­tholike euer taught, or thought so. for the apostle teacheth vs, that by Christes blood we are purged, and that wée are made partakers of remission of sinnes by faith. In the sixt to the Rom. he declareth, that the wages of sinne is death. and Galat. 3. that such as transgresse Gods law, are accursed by the sentence of the law.

argument 36 They Censur. Colon. f. 204. teach also, that this is the proper doctrine of the Go­spel, if thou wilt enter into life, keepe the commandements. but catholikes know, that those that so teach, confound law and [Page 106] gospel, and ouerthrow the doctrine of the apostles. for he Rom. 1. tea­cheth, that the gospel is the power of God to saluation to euery one that beleeueth. their doctrine doth take from vs all hope of saluation. for how can we hope to be saued by the gospel, if that promise life to none, but such as perfectly fulfil Gods com­mandements?

argument 37 They doe also much derogate from the gospell of Christ Ie­sus, where they teach, that the rules of Benet of Nursia, Fran­cis, Dominike, Ignatius Loyola, and diuers other founders of monkish and frierlike orders, doe shew vs the way to perfecti­on; and holde not, that the gospel of Christ Iesus is sufficient of it selfe to do it. true catholikes certes neuer mainteined any such fantasies, nor allowed any such order. which may also ap­peare by this, that all these orders of monkes and friers haue their approbation and allowance from the popes of Rome.

argument 38 Of saith they speake, thinke, and write very basely. for they holde first, that faith is onely a bare assent, and requireth neither firme hope, nor holinesse of life, to make it truely Christian. secondly, that not onely wicked men, but also the diuels of hell may haue true faith. thirdly, that faith is not only grounded vp­on holy canonicall scriptures, but also vpon traditions and de­terminations of the pope. which if they firmly holde and vary not, then must they confesse, that we are no lesse to giue credit to lousie legends, and lying and erronious decretals of popes, than to the eternall word of God. But true catholikes haue alwaies beléeued otherwise. The apostle Rom. 1. saith, that the iust shall liue by faith. and the church beléeueth, that Iohn 3. whosoeuer beleeueth in Christ, shall not perish, but haue euerlasting life. and Rom. 5. that being iustified by faith, wee haue peace with God. further, the apostle Rom. 10. teacheth, that faith commeth by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. but there is great difference betwixt the word of God, and traditions of men; betwixt the infallible trueth of Gods word, and the deceiuable doctrine of popes decretals.

argument 39 They teach, that charity is the forme of faith. but catholiks haue alwaies taken this doctrine to be erronious. for how can one vertue be the forme of another? againe, séeing matter and forme be parts in natural bodies, is it not absurd to apply these words to qualities, that rather resemble forme than matter: [Page 107] thirdly, if iustifying faith were alwaies formed with charitie, then could not faith worke of it selfe. for it is the forme, from whence actions procéed, and not matter. but the apostle Rom. 1. saith, that the iust liue by faith. and Ephes. 2. that wee are saued by grace through faith. hereupon Lib. 2. epist. 3. Cyprian saith, that whosoeuer doth beleeue in God, and liue by faith, he is found to be iust.

argument 40 They Bellar. lib. 1. de fid. c. 13. attribute our first iustice to faith, and other prepara­tions, as for example, feare, hope, loue, repentance, a purpose of new life, and such like: but the principall forme and beauty of our iustice, they place in charitie, and works of the law. and that they call our second iustice. but true catholikes doe other­wise thinke and speake of iustice. The 1. Cor. 1. apostle saith, that our Sauiour Christ is made iustification vnto vs, and Rom. 3. & Gal. 2. & 3. that we are not iustified by the workes of the law. the prophet also doeth shew, that our righteousnesse is like a defiled cloth of an vn­cleane woman. neither can this distinction of first and second iustice, or that wicked doctrine, that followeth of it, be found in all the fathers.

argument 41 In the sacraments also most fouly they haue digressed from the catholicke saith Apolog. ad Antonin. Iustin Martyr where he hath occasion to describe the sacraments, and rites of the first church, doth onely mention two sacraments. this number also may be prooued by the testimony of Ireney, Dionysius, Tertullian lib. 1. & 4. contr. Marcionem, Ambroses books of sacraments, Cyrilles catechisticall instructions, and all the fathers, that in no place mention 7. sacraments, nor compare any rite or sacrament to baptisme and the Lords supper. Pauca pro multis saith Lib. 3. de doctr. Christ. c. 9. Augustine, eademque factu facillima, & intellectu augustis­sima, & conseruatione castissima ipse dominus, & apostolica tradidit disciplina, sicut est baptismi sacramentum, & celebratio corporis & sanguinis domini. and this may be proued also by the weake dispute of Bellarmine, for his 7. sacraments, who is not able to bring either good argument, or testimony for his opinion.

argument 42 The councell of Sess. 6. c. 1. Trent doth anathematize all that hold, that the 7. sacraments of the Romish church were not all in­stituted by Christ Iesus, or that there are either more or lesse, then iust 7 which doctrine, if Robert Parsons can proue to be catholicke, let him take a cardinals hat, which he hath so [Page 108] long desired, for his labour. his friends doe much doubt of his good successe in this matter. for they finde, that matrimony was instituted in paradise, and that repentance hath alwaies béene in the church. priesthood was either established by the law of Moyses, or else then by lawes and rites adorned. confirmation, and extreme vnction were neither instituted by Christ, nor déemed necessary or ordinany rites by the church: as the silence of fathers, that speake of the sacraments of the church may teach vs.

argument 43 In the sacrament of baptisme the papists vse exorcismes, blowings, salt, spitle, hallowed water, anointings, light, and diuers ceremonies, neither vsed by the apostles, nor practised by the ancient church. now in the C. Benedict. fontis. missales they pray, that the font may be sanctified, and made fruitfull with the oile of saluation, to those that shall be regenerate by it to life. then the priest powreth in oile and chrisme in forme of the crosse. they also sprincle all the assistants with holy water out of the font, and none of all these ceremonies, they Sess. 7. c. 13. concil. Trid. say, may be omitted without sinne. if then Robert Parsons cannot proue these ce­remonies to haue bene either ancient, or generally vsed; he cannot deny, but the papists are no catholicks.

argument 44 They denounce them acursed, that shall not hold baptisme to be necessary to saluation: which curse and doctrine cannot be sound in ancient catholicke fathers. nay we read in ancient writers, that not the want, but the contempt of baptisme con­demneth. and the Bellar. lib. 1. de baptis. c. 6. papists to mollifie this hard sentence, haue found diuers meanes to supply baptisme.

argument 45 They dissolue mariage contracted by entring into mon­kish religion, although both the parties consent not. and after mariage consummated, they holde, that maried couples may depart asunder, and that it shall not be lawfull for them after­ward, as man and wife, to company together. which doctrine is neither catholicke, nor true. for Matth. 19. what man can seperate them, whom God hath ioined together? againe what reason haue maried couples kéeping asunder for exercise of deuotion, not to come together againe, séeing the apostle commandeth such to returne and cohabite together, least Satan should tempt them? Iterum 1. Cor. 7. saith he, reuertimini in idipsum, ne ten­tet vos Satanas.

argument 46 They seperate also mariages for spirituall kinred, and force priests, monks and friers to forsweare mariage. yet can they not shew, that catholicke religion forbiddeth spirituall gossips to entermary, nor that monkish vowes and abiurations of mariages haue bene allowed in the ancient church, and by ca­tholicke doctors. nay where God Leuit. 18. appointeth limits and degrées, within which it is not lawfull to marry, there is no signification, that spirituall gossips are forbidden to entermar­ry. and the apostle signifieth, that mariage is honorable among all sorts of men, and the bed of maried folks vndefiled. happie were popish priests and votaries, if they were able to say, that their beds, and bodies were vndefiled.

argument 47 They beléeue, that penance standeth vpon contrition, con­fession, and satisfaction, and that these thrée are the parts of it. and yet themselues say, that absolution is the forme of pe­nance, and that confession is not alwaies necessary. the catho­licke church certes did neuer thinke either auricular confession, or publicke satisfaction inioined by priests to be required ne­cessarily in repentance.

argument 48 They Sess. 14. con­cil. Trid. pronounce him anathema, that beléeueth not, that penance is properly a sacrament of the new law; or that deni­eth auricular confession in the priests eares, to haue béene in­stituted by Christ in the new testament. and yet are they not able to shew, that any catholike father saith, that our Saui­our Christ in the new testament did institute the act of repen­tance; nor can they denie, that the people of God vnder the law vsed to repent themselues of their sinnes; nor can they shew any place, where Christians were commanded to con­fesse their sinnes to the priest, and were otherwise excluded from all hope of pardon. nay they cannot shew, that any was tied to confession in the Romish church before Innocents de­cretale beginning, omnis vtriusque sexus. de poenit. & remiss. and in the Gréeke church there was neuer any such course established. as for the power, which monkes and friers claim in hearing of confessions, that dependeth wholly vpon the popes grant, beneuolence, and authority.

argument 49 They Concil. Trid. sess. 13. c. 1. teach, that our Sauiour Christes body, that was borne of the virgine Mary, and crucified on the crosse, is pro­perly and substantially present vnder the accidents of bread, [Page 110] and likewise that his blood is conteined really and properly vnder the accidents of wine, as may be séene in the acts of the conuenticle of Trent. but true catholikes beléeue, that his bo­dy is M [...]. vlt. & act. 1. taken vp into heauen, and that concerning his bodily presence he hath left the earth, and that his blood is in the veines of his body, and not properly shedde foorth in the cha­lice further they know, that when we are commanded to eat Christes flesh, and to drinke his blood, we are to vn­derstand, it and to doe it spiritually, and not carnally, as doe the Canibales; and that Christ, when he said, this is my bo­dy, and this is my blood, gaue a sacrament of his bodie and blood, and not that body, that sat at the table, nor the blood, that was in the veines of his body. Lib. 4. contr. Marcion. Tertullian saith, that Christ made the bread, which was deliuered to his disciples his body, by saying this is my body, that is, the figure of my body. and likewise saint Contra Adi­mantum c. 12. Augustine affirmeth, that Christ doubted not to say, this is my body, when he gaue a signe of his bodie. and that this is the catholike faith concerning this sacrament, I haue at large declared in a treatise of the reall presence, of late published against Bellarmine: which Robert Parsons may doe well to take notice of.

argument 50 They anathematise all those, that shall affirme, that the substance of bread and wine remaineth in the sacrament af­ter consecration, Concil. Trid. sess. 13. and that shall dare to deny transubstantia­tion. which curse lighteth not on vs onely, but vpon the a­postle saint Paule, who after the words of consecration spea­king of the sacrament, saieth, let a man examine himselfe, and so eat of this bread, and drinke of this cup. it falleth also vpon all true catholikes, that according to our Sauiours wordes, shall call the cup being consecrate, genimen vitis. Aduers. Iudaeos. Tertullian saith, that Christ called bread his body. Saint Hierome in a certeine epistle to Hedibia saith, that the bread, which the Lord brake, and gaue to his disciples, is the Lords body. this is also saint Augustines iudgement. c. qui manducant. de conse­ctat. dist. 2. and Theodorets in his first dialogue, and diuers others, that affirme, that the pronoune, Hoc, in these words hoc est corpus meum, doth demonstrate the bread, finally vn­lesse the papists grant, that the bread remaineth in the sacra­ment after consecration, they must néedes grant, that Christ [Page 111] hath a body impalpable, inuisible, and that may be in all al­tars at once, and yet filleth no place, and such a body, as ne­uer man had before, nor euer shall haue héereafter.

argument 51 Sess. 13. con­cil. Trid. c. 5. They anathematise those, that shall affirme, that the prin­cipal fruite of the eucharist is remission of sinnes. which falleth vpon all catholikes, that shall beléeue these words of Matth. 26. Christ: this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for remission of sinnes.

argument 52 They do also bitterly curse all such, as shall say, that Christs body in the sacrament is not to be worshipped, Concil. Trid. sess. 13. c. 6. with diuine ho­nour, or that shall condemne the feast of corpus Christi, or the popish fashion in carying about the sacrament. and yet neuer true catholike did so worship, or cary about the sacrament, as papists doe. our Sauiour said, take eat; and not, fall downe, and worship, or cary about this sacrament, or put it in a pixe. the disciples they did also, as our Sauiour Christ comman­ded. and the ancient church, as appeareth by all the ancient liturgies, did communicate, and not worship the sacrament, as their Lord and God, according to the stile of the Roma­nists.

argument 53 Ibid. c. 8. They doe anathematize all them, that hold, that Christ is receiued in the sacrament spiritually, and not otherwise. which toucheth saint Augustine and all catholikes. he Tract. 25. in Ioan. saith, vt quid paras dentem? the rest say, that Christs flesh is meat of the soule, and not of the body; cibus mentis, & non ventris.

argument 54 They do also Sess. 22. anathematise such, as deny the body & blood of Christ to be really and properly offered vp in the masse, for an externall and propitiatory sacrifice for quicke and dead, and say, that the eucharist is a memoriall of Christes sacrifice on the crosse. but the apostle Heb. 7. & 10. teacheth vs, that Christ his sacrifice was to be offered vp but once, and that he left no successours behinde him to offer this sacrifice. De demonstr. euangel. lib. 1. Eusebius also saith, that our sacrifice is the memoriall of Christ his sacrifice. and this also Chrysostome vpon the epistle to the Hebrewes cléerely demonstrateth.

argument 55 They do offer sacrifice for the dead, and in honor of the vir­gine Mary and of saints. likewise do they offer Christs body, as they say, for faire weather, for peace, and what they please. but this shall not Robert Parsons be euer able to shew, to haue [Page 112] béene practised by catholikes. nay, of such deuices there is not any signe, or suspicion in ancient liturgies; but of the contrary rather.

argument 56 Ancient catholikes resorting to church, Can. apost. 9. & 10. departed not be­fore they receiued the communion. but now the priest eateth and drinketh all, and sendeth away Gods people emptie.

argument 57 Christ instituted the sacrament of the Lords supper in both kinds, and so Christians receiued it in ancient time, as the do­ctors assembled at Constance confesse; and yet they decrée, that beside the priest that doth minister, all the rest shall content themselues with one kinde.

argument 58 Catholikes do not beléeue, that priests administring the sa­crament worke woonders. but the papists beléeue that they worke diuers miracles, making one body to be in many pla­ces, and accidents to subsist without subiect, and an humane body to be in a place without filling the place of a body.

argument 59 The Hebr. 5. & 7. apostle telleth vs, that Christ onely is a priest accor­ding to the order of Melchisedech: and this all catholikes be­léeue. but papists beléeue, that euery greasie and polshorne priest is a priest after the order of Melchisedech; yea, although, as they suppose, he offereth neither bread nor wine, as did Melchisedech.

argument 60 Christ taught vs, to pray to the father in his name, and so did all true catholikes in ancient time, but now papists pray to Christ in the name of our Lady, and of saints, as if we were not to approch to our Mediatour without the mediation of o­thers. to the virgine Mary they pray thus, In breuiar. Aue maris stella, Dei mater alma, at (que) semper virgo, foelix coeli porta, solue vin­cla reis, profer lumen caecis. in the Romish breuiary they call her, dulcem amicam Dei. in the missal of Sarum: per te mater, say they, aboleri filiorum flagitamus crimina, nós (que) omnes in­troduci in sempiterna paradisi gaudia. as if the holy virgine had power to remit sinnes, and were the gate, by which we en­ter into heauen.

argument 61 Catholikes neuer vsed to bow themselues before stocks or stones, or to pray before them. are they then catholiks, which like to the Hierem. 2. idolatrous Iewes, say to a stocke, thou art my fa­ther, and to a stone, thou hast begotten me? which set light be­fore those that can not sée, and crie before those that can not [Page 113] heare, and say In offic. beat. Mariae. to a woodden crosse, increase in the godly, righ­teousnesse, and pardon sinners: and also, crux Christi protege me, crux Christi defende me ab omni malo? and which before the printed face, which they call Volto santo, pray thus, Salue sancta facies impresta panniculo, nos ab omni macula purga vi­tiorum, at (que) nos consortio iunge beatorum?

argument 62 Catholikes beléeue, that their sacrifices of praise are accep­ted through Christ. but papists beléeue, that Christes bodie is accepted through the mediation of the priest, and of saints. the priest in the canon beséecheth God, to looke fauourably vpon the body and blood of Christ. Supra quae, saith he, propitio ac sereno vultu respicere digneris. and in the missal of Sarum on Batildis day, they pray, that God would accept their sacrifice, viz. of Christes body and blood, through the merits of S. Batil­dis. vt haec munera tibi, Domine, accepta sint, say they, sanctae Batildis obtineant merita, quae seipsam tibi hostiam viuam, san­ctam, & bene placentem exhibuit.

argument 63 Catholikes beléeue, that the apostles, and their successours receiued the keyes of the kingdome of heauen, and power to binde and loose onely vpon earth. but the papists beléeue, that the pope hath receiued the keyes of the kingdome of hell, and purgatory. Damascen and other authors of Romish legends tell vs, that Gregory the first deliuered Traians soule out of hel; and euery pety pope thinketh he is abused, if any tell him, that he can not let out of purgatory as many as he pleaseth. Com­monly all papists pray for the dead, that they may haue a place of rest giuen them, and that their sinnes may be pardoned them; as if sinnes might be forgiuen after this life.

argument 64 Catholikes neither worshipped saints departed, nor their images, nor the crosse of Christ. Hierome in an epistle to Ri­patius denieth, that any creature is to be worshipped, or ado­red. Lib. 22. deci­uit. Dei. c. 10. Augustine sheweth, that Christians did not worship martyrs, nor erect temples in honor of them, and saith that they gaue thanks and praise vnto God onely at their monu­ments. ecclesia catholica mater Christianorum verissima saith De morib. ec­cles. lib. 1. c. 30. he, solum ipsum deum, cuius adeptio vita est beatissima puris­simè, atque castisimè colendum praedicat, nullam nobis adoran­dam creaturam inducens, cui seruire iubeamur. whereby plainly he excludeth the worship of Doulia. De obitu Theodosij. Ambrose decla­reth, [Page 114] that Helene finding the crosse, worshipped not the crosse, but Christ. but the papists worship not onely the saints, but dumbe images. they say masses in honor of S. Francis, and S. Dominicke, and diuers other saints. they knéele to ima­ges, and burne incense vnto them. finally they giue Latriam, that is due by their owne confession to God only, to the crosse, to the crucifix, and to the images of the Trinity.

argument 65 True catholicks neuer made the images of God the father, or the holy trinity, nor did thinke it lawfull to worship them with diuine. worship but the papists both make such images, and allow such worship to be giuen to them.

argument 66 True catholicks neuer had any psalter in honor of our bles­sed Lady, nor vsed to say a hundred and 50. Auemariaes, and after euery fifty Auemariaes one Creed, and after euery tenne Auemaries, one Pater Noster. nay our sauiour expressly forbad his desciples to vse battologies, and odious repetitions in their praiers. But papists put great religion in our Ladies psalter, and in their rosaries, and often repetitions of the name of Iesu, and of their Auemariaes.

argument 67 True catholicks neuer coniured salt, nor holy water, nor oile, nor chrisme, nor superstitiously sanctified candles, crosses and images, in such sort as the papists vse to doe. neither did they grease stone alters, or describe the Gréeke alphabet on the pauement of churches to be consecrated, or abuse the scrip­tures as the papists doe in that act, as may appeare by the for­mulary commonly vsed in such cases. that ancient catholicks neuer vsed any such ceremonies, it may appeare by the wri­tings of the fathers, and also in old rituall books. for in them such formes of consecrations, exorcizations, and such abuses are not to be found.

argument 68 True Iohn 4. catholicks worship God in spirit and trueth. but the papists place most of Gods worship in externall ceremo­nies, and vse in their worship a tong not vnderstood. so that their praiers cannot procéed from the spirit, nor be true nor ca­tholicke.

argument 69 True catholicks neuer worshipped angels. Coloss. 2. the apostle Paule doth expressly condemne the worship of them, as Chry­sostome, Theodoret, Oecumenius writing vpon the 2. and 3. chap. of the epistle to the Colossians do testifie. the councell of [Page 115] Laodicea doth also prohibit the worship of Angels, and Saint De hares. c. 39. Augustine numbreth the worshippers of Angels among he­reticks. Neither may we thinke, that they were therefore condemned, because they atrtibuted the creation of the world to angels, but because they worshipped angels, and as Chry­sostome homil. 7. in coloss. 2. affirmeth thought we were to come to God by the mediation of angels. and yet papists Horae ad v­sum sacrum. pray to angels, that they would protect them, and driue di­uils from them, and open their sight. they say also masses in their honor, set vp lights to them, make confession of their sinns to them: and all this contrary to the practise of the anci­ent catholicke church.

argument 70 Our Matth. 15. sauiour Christ teacheth, that those worship God in uaine, which worship him according to the doctrines and com­mandements of men. and therefore all true catholicks haue had principall respect herein to the commandements and lawes of God. but the Romish church doth wholy depend vp­pon the decretales of popes, and vaine fancies of men. their missals, breuiaries, offices and whole seruice procéedeth from no other fountaine.

argument 71 The Psal. 32. prophet declareth, that they are blessed whose iniqui­ties are forgiuen, and whose sinns are couered. and the apo­stle saith, that being instified by faith we haue peace with god. and this is the hope of all catholicks, that Christ hath reconci­led vs to his father, and washed away our sinnes, and paid a ransome for them on the crosse. but this comfort papists doe take from vs, that teach and holde, that after our sinnes forgiuen, we are to satisfie for temporall paines due for our sinnes either here, or in purgatory; and that such are there to sustaine great torments, in which paines and place none but mad men can place felicity.

argument 72 Catholicks beléeue, that through faith we are made parta­kers of Christs satisfaction. the papists beléeue, that the pope can apply them by his bulles, both in purgatory, and in this life, according to his lawes.

argument 73 Catholicks beléeue, that no man can satisfie for his owne sinnes, much lesse for the sinnes of others. Bellar. lib. 1. de indulgent. papists beléeue, that a mans sufferings may be so great, as they may serue for his own and other mens sinnes, and are laid vp in a treasury, [Page 116] whereof the pope hath the dispensation.

argument 74 Catholicks neuer beleeued, that there are 7. orders, and e­uery one of these a sacrament; and yet all but one sacrament. for that is as much as if a man should deny one, and one to make two. yet papists beléeue this, Sess. 23. con­cil. Trid. and accurse them that shall say contrary.

argument 75 Catholikes doe not beléeue, that Christ ordeined seuen or­ders in the church, or that exorcistes, doore-kéepers and sub­deacons were instituted by him, or that they are a holy sacra­ment. the papists notwithstanding doe hold contrary, or at the least, the contrary may be gathered out of their doc­trine.

argument 76 Catholikes doe not deny, but that second mariages are as well to be blessed, as first mariages. why then doe papists ob­serue and teach the contrary, if they will be accounted catho­likes?

argument 77 Catholikes doe not beléeue that by almes, and fasting they are either iustified, or able to satisfie for their sinnes. but papistes, as appeareth by Bellarmines disputes, holde con­trarie.

argument 78 Catholikes did neuer tie themselues to beléeue, whatsoeuer the church of Rome or the pope determined. for not onely the Asian churches dissented from Victor, and the African chur­ches from Sozimus, but long since all haue left the popes, that would not be oppressed by them. Saint Lib. de sacra­ment. Ambrose sheweth, that he was not bound to follow the church of Romes directi­on in all ceremonies. but papists are tied to Peters chaire, as they séeme to confesse, & by Pius 4. his constitution, are bound to beleeue all things conteined in the Creed, which the church of Rome vseth. seruilly also they submit themselues for the most part, to the decrées of the counsell of Trent.

argument 79 Catholikes doe not condemne all for heretikes, that either teach, or thinke otherwise of the sacrament of the altar, or of confession of sinnes, or other Romish sacraments, then the church of Rome. for concerning the Lords supper, I haue Lib. de missa papist. cont. Bellar. shewed, that al antiquity is against the Romanistes. and the rest shall be prooued as occasion serueth. but papists condemne all, that dissent from the church of Rome in the points aboue mentioned.

argument 80 Catholiks beléeue the catholike church. but the papists only beléeue the catholike Romane church, that is, so much of the Catholike church, as agréeth with the Romanists. for so the Iebusites of Bordeaux in their confession doe signifie. and the same is prooued by Bristowes 12. motiue, the 5. epistle of car­dinall Cusanus to the Bohemians, and Sanders in his fift booke of his visible monarchy. Lib. 2 de ec­cles. milit. Bellarmine also admitteth none to be of the church, but such as are subiect to the pope. and that is Boniface the eight, his determination, c. vnam sanctam. extr. de maior. & obedientia.

argument 81 Catholikes are the shéepe of Christ, and therefore kill none, especially none of Christs shéepe. but papists like woolues mur­der all, that like not of the popes gouernment and doctrine.

argument 82 Catholikes are a society of saints and true beléeuers, as S. Augustine sheweth, lib. de ver. relig. c. 6. & 7. but to be a true member of the popish church neither faith, nor holinesse, nor inward vertue is required, as saith Bellarmine lib. de eccles. milit. c. 2. but onely an outward profession and obedience.

argument 83 Catholikes neuer beléeued, that the pope of Rome was by Christ made his vicar generall, or the spouse, or the monarke, or head of the church. De pontif. Rom. lib. 2. c. 31. Bellarmine, albeit he searcheth all cor­ners, yet cannot finde, that any catholike writer had any such conceit. is it not then apparent, that the pope is a plaine intru­der into ecclesiasticall gouernment, and that the papists hol­ding with him haue forsaken the catholike doctrine of the church?

argument 84 In ancient time the bishops of Rome were subiect to coun­cels, and at their entrance into their bishopricks professed and acknowledged their canons, as appeareth by the chapters, sancta Romana ecclesia, and, sicut sancti. dist. 15. but now pa­pists will haue them to be aboue councels.

argument 85 In times past the bishops of Rome were subiect to empe­rors, as appeareth by the lawes of Iustinian, and diuers other emperors before him, which are to be séene in the code vnder the titles, de summa trinit. & fid. cath. de episc. audient. & au­thent. de ordinat. episcop. but now contrary to the old forme of gouernment of the church papists exclude the emperour, and giue all authority to the pope. Sic omne: dist. 19. Agatho determines, that all the decrees of the apostolike see are to be receiued, as if they [Page 118] had beene established by the voice of Peter.

argument 86 Saint Cyprian teacheth, that the apostles had all equall power. and that is prooued, for that they had like calling, and Luk. 9. & Matth. 28. & Iohn 20. like commission, and for that the church was equally foun­ded vpon them all. but papists beleeue, that Peter was head, and monarke of the church, Summa de ecclesia. and that the rest of the apostles were to him, as the cardinals are to the pope. for so Turrecre­mata a cardinall séemeth to holde.

argument 87 Among catholiks Christian emperors were alwaies wont to assemble generall councels, as appeareth by the first foure generall councels of Nice, Constantinople, Ephesus the 1. Chalcedon and diuers others. and that the cardinall of Cusa, and Anastasius the popes principall agent in his library con­fesse. ex superioribus habetur saith De Concord. Cath. li. 3. c. 13. Cusanus, imperatores san­ctos congregationes synodales vniuersalium conciliorum sem­per fecisse. ita ego perlustrans, gesta omnium vniuersalium con­ciliorum vsque ad octauum inclusiuè Basilij tempore celebra­tum, verum esse reperi. Ibid. Anastasius also affirmeth, vniuersa­les synodos de omni terra imperatores colligere solitos fuisse. but to the papists this catholike forme of assembling councels, is much displeasing.

argument 88 Our Sauiour Christ committed the gouernment of the church to his apostles, and Ephes. 4. ascending vp on hie, gaue some a­postles, some prophets, some euangelists, some pastors and teachers, and these he thought to be sufficient for the gouern­ment and building vp of the church, and gathering together the saints, and worke of the ministery, and he is no catho­like that thinketh contrary. the hierarchy therefore of the church of Rome, where we sée a triple crowned pope, a mul­titude of carnall cardinals, a heard of fat abbots and generals of orders of friers, and whole swarmes of monkes and friers, is not catholike. these friers a certeine popish Onus eccles. c. 22. bishop doeth compare to locustes issuing out of the bottomlesse pit of hell, for that they corrupt religion, as the other deuoured euery gréene thing. illi mendicantes peruersi saith he, designantur per locustas de puteo abyssi exeuntes, quia ipsi sunt scurriles leues, volatiles, rodentes sacras literas virides, paganicae philosophiae sequaces, quasi equi currentes, sic illi in vanam disputationem.

argument 89 True catholikes neuer thought, that the pope had two swords, knowing, that Peters successors had keyes, and not swords deliuered vnto them, and well vnderstanding, that their commission was to teach and administer sacraments, and not to cut Christian mens throats. but C. vnam de maior. & e­bed. Boniface the 8. vpon pretence of these words, ecce duo gladij hîc, imagineth, that the pope is to vse both the temporall, and spirituall sword, and the Iebusites stoutly defend his authoritie, and with their two handed swords, and gentle receits of their sophisticated drugs, kill more honest men, than honest men can easily con­uert from superstition and impietie to Christ Iesus.

argument 90 Among Gregory the seuenths Ioseph Vestan. de oscul. ped. pontif. dictates, the 12. is, that the pope hath power to depose the emperour. the 8. that he may lawfully vse the ensignes of the emperour. the 27. that he hath power to absolue subiects from their allegiance. but S. Peter, that was a farre better catholike, than this Gregory called o­therwise Hildebrand, or rather Helfirebrand, teacheth contra­ry doctrine, and 1. Petr. 2. willeth Christians to honor the king. so like­wise S. Paul exhorteth all sorts of men to be subiect to the high­er powers. finally, the law of God bindeth so fast, Rom. 13. that no de­uice of man can vntwist the bond of an oth taken to his prince, as true catholikes euer beléeued.

argument 91 Concil. Ni­cen. c. 5. Catholikes in time past did not permit one bishop to ab­solue him, that was excommunicate by another. but the pope of Rome absolueth now all at his pleasure, by whomsoeuer they be excommunicated.

argument 92 The councell of Can. 22. Mileuis in Afrike, excommunicated all priests, that appealed to Rome. Ad transmarina qui putauerit appellandum, say the fathers of that councel, a nullo intra Afri­cam in communionem suscipiatur. but the pope and his adhe­rents adiudge him worthy to be excommunicate, that shall de­nie, that it is lawfull to appeale to Rome. let it then be iudged, whether therein they deale as catholikes.

argument 93 Gregory the first doubted not to censure him as the forerun­ner of Antichrist, that should call himselfe vniuersall bishop. and this title he accounteth prophane and sacrilegious. yet doth not the pope refuse this title, neither doth Lib. 2. de pon­tif. Rom. c. 31. Bellarmine mislike it.

argument 94 In the catholike church no man might be ordeined without [Page 120] a charge, as appeareth by the acts of the councell of Chalce­don. but now the popes without charge ordeine infinite monks and friers, which are the moths that fret and consume Christian religion.

argument 95 Catholikes neuer. vsed to kisse the popes pantofle, nor to fall downe before him, and to crie, Miserere nostri. are then the papists catholikes, trow you, or flanes, and base fellowes, that kisse the slipper of Antichrist, and fall downe before him, crying out, Miserere, to a most miserable mortall man?

argument 96 Ancient catholikes were not acquainted with the popes prouisions, reseruations, expectatiue fauors, indulgencies, iubi­leyes, and such like tricks and hooks to ouerthrow order, and enrich the pope; neither would they haue liked any such Ba­bylonish traffike, if they had knowen it. shamelesse therefore are they, which take to themselues the titles of catholikes, and yet either commit, or allow these abuses.

argument 97 Ancient catholikes neuer knew the rates of the popes chan­cery for writs of iustice, of benefices, of pardons; nor did they beléeue, that the pope could pardon incests, murders, sacrilege, Sodomy, blasphemy, and such horrible crimes. those therefore that allow this sinfull traffike of popes, and their courts, they are neither good catholikes, nor ciuill honest men.

argument 98 No catholike euer adhered to Antichrist, or embraced his damnable doctrine. but we haue Lib. 5. de pontif. Rom. shewed, that the pope is Antichrist, and that popery is nothing els, but Antichristia­nisme, and that by such arguments, as for any thing yet an­swered, séeme inuincible. if then papists adhere to the pope, they must leaue the name of catholikes, which without all rea­son they haue vsurped, and taken to themselues.

argument 99 Finally, no catholike euer embraced any heresie, or false do­ctrine. for as S. De vera re­lig. c. 6. & 7. Augustine teacheth vs, catholikes are true Christians, and embrace the right faith. but the papists haue embraced, and yet holde many both olde and new heresies, and thereof popery séemeth to consist: the which to be very true, it shall appeare by the particulars discoursed in the chap­ter following.

CHAP. IIII. That papists doe mainteine many both olde and new heresies, and erroneous points of doctrine contrary to the catholike faith.

LIttle reason haue the papists to charge others with heresie, if they would narrowly looke into their owne opinions, and heresies which are so many, and so vgly. we may therefore well say vnto them, Pull out the beames out of your owne eies, you hypocrites, and then you shall more clearly see the motes that are in other mens eies. so grosse are your errors, and so foule, that beames in mens eies séeme not more deformed.

argument 1 For first as the Rom. 2. & 3. Iewes, and especially the scribes and Pha­rises rested in the law, and gloried in their works, Luc. 18. and as the apostle declareth Rom. 2. and Galat. 3. sought to be instified by their works, and by the law; so the papists rest, and relie much vpon the law, not doubting but by obseruance thereof to enter into life; and thereto they apply these words, hoc fac, & viues. they glory also in their works, and if they said true, that by the works of the law they were iustified, they had rea­son so to doe. for to him that worketh, the reward is imputed, not according to grace, but according to debt, as the Rom. 4. apostle saith. finally they séeke to be iustified formally by their works, and by the law, which they say is fulfilled by charity. for that is the end of Bellarmines dispute of iustice of works, and habitu­all iustice. and so much doe they rely vpon their owne iustice, that they Concil. Trid. sess. 6. can. 10. & 11. exclude the iustice of Christ out of our iustification.

argument 2 Secondly the sect of the pharises was condemned, for that they made void the law of God by there owne traditions. re­probastis mandatum dei per seniorum vestrorum traditionem, saith our Marc. 7. sauiour speaking to the pharises. they were like­wise reproued for their diligence in making proselytes, and drawing nouices, to like of their sect. circuitis mare & aridam saith our Matth. 23. sauiour, vt faciatis vnum proselytum, & cum factus fuerit, facitis illum filium gehennae duplo plus, qùam vos estis. [Page 122] the pharises also stood much vpon externall ceremonies, but se­tretly they deuoured widowes houses. Furthermore they are noted, for that they loued preheminence in meetings, and de­stred to be called Rabbi, affecting a strange kinde of singularity. Dicebantur pharisaei, saith Haeres. 16. ante Christum. Epiphanius, eo quod separati es­sent ab alijs propter spontaneam superfluam religionem apud ipsos receptam. Ibidem. finally they are taxed for their vowes of con­tinency, for their sléeping on thorns and boords, for their super­stitious fashions in praying, and for their allowing of fatum or destiny. In all which points the papists séeme much to re­semble this pharisaicall sect. for first by their traditions they frustrate the law of God. God, he forbiddeth vs to make gra­uen images, to worship them. but they say the making of ima­ges, and the worshipping of them is a tradition descended from the apostles; and is very profitable. Saint Paul he teacheth vs obedience to princes: but papists say, this holdeth no longer, then during the popes pleasure, or at the least vntill such times, as he shall excomunicate them. for then they say, it is lawfull to cutte their throtes. and so de facto they doe it, if they can, as appeareth by many precedents.

Our sauiour Christ in the institution of the Lords supper, commanded his desciples to take and eat, and deliuering the cuppe said, drinke ye all of this, yet by their traditions the pa­pists haue frustrated Christ his institution. for in lieu of ta­king and eating, they content themselues with gaping and fasting, and in the end they put vp the sacrament into a boxe, & worship it. and where Christ said, drinke yet all of this; their tradition is, drinke not all of this, nor looke for the cuppe. se­condly the Iebusites friers and priests trauell land and sea to reconcile men to the pope, and to make of good subiects obsti­nate recusants, and proselyts to the sinagogue of Rome. and when they haue inuegled simple people, they make them as vnnaturall and disloyall traitors as themselues. thirdly no sect euer stood more vpon externall ceremonies, then the pa­pists, whose whole religion standeth in ceremonies. fourthly the Iebusits haue deuoured many widowes houses, and haue empouerished many orphanes, intercepting by singular fraud that, which was due vnto them. as Arnold in his pleading, and the secular priests in their discourses doe particularly [Page 123] charge them. fiftly the priests and friers looke for great prehe­minence, and desire to be saluted by the name of fathers, beget­ting children to the pope and bastards to their hostes, as the Iesuits catechisme saith. sixtly these friers pretend, that they are in the state of perfection, and condemne other christians, as carnall and secular. They doe also weare hairecloth som­times, and lash themselues with whips, and in the maner of their superfluous religion they are very singular. finally both they and the Th. Aqu. 1. p q. 116. art. 2 3. & 4. schoolemen doe in some sort allow fatum, and subiect all second causes vnto it. and is not this trow you, pharisaisme?

argument 3 The scribes were reputed sectaries and hereticks, for that they brought in a superfluous, and sophisticall exposition of the law. Haeres. 15. an­te Christum. Ephphanius doeth call it supersophisticam exposi­tionem. they were likewise condemned, for their often wash­ings and purifyings, and for that they accounted themselues more holy then others. why then should not the popish schoole­men and the frapling friers be likewise accounted scribes, sec­taries and hereticks, séeing neuer any deuised more vaine and sophisticall expositions vpon the word of God, nor more con­trary to the meaning of the holy ghost then they? Further doe not the See the ru­bicks of the masse. priests often wash themselues at masse? and doe not all papists continuallie wash themselues and others with ho­ly water, thinking thereby to cleanse themselues from veniall sinnes, and to Missale Ro. in fine. driue the diuell from them? doe they not al­so purifie and hallow altars, churches, vestements, and other vtensiles of their prophane priesthood? finally who can account themselues more holy, then those, that will needs be intitled holy fathers, and professe themselues to liue in a holy and per­fect state of life?

argument 4 The Epiphan. in haeres. 17. ante Christum. Hemerobaptistes for their continuall washings, and for that they imagined, that they were thereby clensed from their sinnes, are numbred among Iewish heretikes, let it therefore be imagined, whether the papists doe not resemble them both in their washings and opinions, when they sprin­kle themselues continually with holy water, and imagine, that thereby they are clensed from veniall sinnes. yet as Ibidem. Epi­phanius saith, neither can drops, nor riuers, nor the whole ocean wash away sinnes.

argument 5 The Epiphan. haeres. 13. ante Christum. Dositheans were a sect of heretikes among the Iewes, and so reputed for their affect at virginity, and abstinence from the vse of mariage, although they were maried. they were al­so noted for their voluntary fastings, and for that diuersly, and voluntarily they afflicted their bodies. what then are wée to thinke of papists, that allow these voluntary whippings, and lashings of their bodies? and what may be thought of the Ie­busites chambers of meditations? papists also allow extraor­dinary fastings, and thinke thereby to satisfie for sinne, and to merit heauen. some of them also account it great holinesse for maried couples to liue a sunder, and to creepe into monaste­ries, and such dennes of superstition and idolatry. for which cause they deserue to créepe, if not to runne into the catalogue of heretikes. for the apostle doeth condemne those, which vp­on a superstitious conceit Colos. 2. spared not their bodies.

argument 6 Among the heretikes, that first shewed themselues vpon the first plantation of Christian religion, Simon Magus and his followers are commonly reputed the ringleaders. of him we reade, Act. 8. that he thought it no sinne, to buie the gifts of the holy Ghost. and thereupon those, that buie and sell orders, be­nefices, churches, and masses, and barter for spiritual things, and account such chaffaire sailable, are accounted Simonians, and this simonie, as Petitiones R. Vllerston. Vllerston, who wrote about the time of of the councell of Constance, affirmeth, is haeresis practica. but if men imagine it to be lawfull, it is truly an heresie according to rules of speculation. the papists in both these points are guiltie. for nothing can be more infamous, then the church of Rome, for buying and selling of palles, miters, churches, and such like chaffaire.

Venalia nobis, saith
Lib. Calam. 3.
Mantuan,
Templa, sacerdotes, altaria, sacra, coronae,
Ignis, thura, preces, coelum est venale, detisque.

Benedict the 9. sold his popedome for a great summe of mony. and al the world knoweth, that without simoniacall compacts no man can enter into that seat. they sell mens sinnes, and for money they offer to sell heauen. the priests sell masses, as deare as they can, albeit such marchandise be now decried and of lit­tle woorth. for which cause Brigit inueigheth bitterly against them, and saith they are woorse then Iudas. deteriores sunt [Page 125] Iuda, saith Brigit. 132. onus ecclesae. 23. Christ in Brigits reuelations, qui pro solis dena­riis me vendidit, illi autem pro omni mercimonio. so it séemeth, that these are the merchants, of which mention is made Apo­calyps. 18. which sell mens soules. beside that, the canonists di­spute, that it is lawfull for the pope to buy and sell benefices, palles, and mitres. and Bellarmine with all his skill main­teineth the sale of Iubileies, and other indulgences. of Simon Magus also De haeres. c. 1. Augustine affirmeth, quod docebat detestan­dam turpitudinem indifferenter vtendi foeminis: & quod ima­gines, & suam, & Helenes praebebat discipulis suis adorandas. that is, he taught it was no sinne, to vse women without ma­king difference betwixt wife, concubine, and whoore (for that is the signification of the word indifferenter) and gaue his owne image & the image of his leman Selena, to be worship­ped of his disciples. finally, he carried a concubine about with him called Selena. let it therefore be iudged with indifferency, whether the papists haue not some touch of these hereticall tricks, who in Rome and all great cities almost mainteine common bordels, and They put adultery and fornication in the ranke of lesser crimes. c. at siclerici. de iudicijs. account lechery a small sinne, & whose priests commonly kéepe concubines, and finally which wor­ship the images of diuers lecherous priests, and their whoores canonised by the pope for saints. as Dunstane and Alfgina, Bernac and his leman, and many others. and albeit we are not able to say much for the honesty of Francis and Clare, yet it is apparent, that the papists worship their images. so it ap­peareth that the first foundation of the worship of images was laied, either by Simon Magus, or by Carpocrates and Mar­cellina and other heretikes of Simon Magus also it may be, they borrow their exorcisations. for they are rather magicall, than Christian like, as appeareth by them as they are set downe in Hierome Menghus, a disciple as it séemeth of Si­mon Magus.

argument 7 The Basilidians were reputed heretikes, for that they wor­shipped images, and vsed enchantments, and superstitious ad­iurations. for that is prooued by the testimony of Lib. 1. aduers. haeres. c. 23. Irenaeus. how then can the papists wipe away the blot of heresie, that not onely priuately worship images, but also fill euery corner of their churches full of them, and like the statues of Mercury set them vp in high waies? they doe also coniure and enchant [Page 126] water, saying, exorcizo te creatura aquae: and salt, saying, ex­orcizo te creatura salis; as if the creatures were possessed, or corrupted by diuels. likewise they coniure and enchant can­dles, hearbes, and make exorcistes and coniurers a holie or­der, and that order a sacrament of the church.

argument 8 Iren [...]y lib. 1. c. 24. Carpocrates vsed to worship images; and Marcellina one of his followers adored the images of Iesu and Paule, and burnt incense vnto them. Colebat saith De bares. c. 7. Augustine, imagines Iesu & Pauli, & Homeri & Pythagorae, adorando, incensum­que ponendo if then this were heresie in them, why should it not be heresie in papists to worship the image of Iesu with diuine worship and to burne incense not onely before the ima­ges of Iesu and Paule, but also before other petie saints, and percase no saints? if the image of Christ Iesu and Paule might not be adored, how come the images of Christopher and saint Catherine, that neuer were in the world, of George that was an heretike, and Thomas Becket and Campian, that were traitors, to be adored and honored with light and incense?

argument 9 The Carpocratians and Basilidians did conceale and hide the mysteries of their religion, least holy things should be cast to dogges, as may appeare partly by the testimony of Ire­naeus aduersus haeres lib. 1. c. 23. and Epiphanius intreating of the 24. and 27. heresie. and what doe the papists? doe not they reherse the words of the canon so, that no man can heare? and doe they not keepe the mysteries of their religion secret, when they Nauarri enthirid & Alagona. teach, that it is mortall sinne for lay men to dis­pute of matters of faith, and reade scriptures and the publike liturgy in tongues not vnderstood of the hearers? finally, haue not diuers of them alledged, that the reason why scriptures are not translated into vulgar tongues, nor in that tongue read publikly is, because holy things are not to be cast to dogs?

argument 10 The Marcosians did baptise in an vnknowen language, and anoint those, whom they baptised with chrisme or opobal­samum, that is testified by Epiphanius haeres. 34. this by Irenae­us aduers. haeres lib. 1. c. 18. they did also anoint their dead, and giue them extreme vnction. Marcus their founder went about to make his followers beleeue, that he did transubstantiate wine into blood in the sacrament. In that which he calleth the eucharist, saith Haeres. 34. Epiphanius, they say that the rednesse (viz. of [Page 127] the wine) is changed straightwaies into blood. The followers of Marcus accounted themselues perfect but, as Lib. 1. aduers. haeres. c. 15. Irenaeus saith, perfectus nemo, nisi qui maxima mendacia apud eos fructifi­cauerit. Finally, they alledge a multitude of apocryphall wri­tings, forged by themselues, as Ireney testifieth of them, lib. 1. aduers. haeres. c. 18. all which points of heresie, the papists séeme to haue translated into their religion. for first, they bap­tize in a language not vnderstood of the multitude. next, they vse greasing and anointing in baptisme and confirmation. thirdly, they grease their disciples, when they lie on dying. fourthly, they beléeue, that wine in the Lords cup by certeine words of consecration is transubstantiate into blood. fitly, their orders of religion doe account themselues to be in state of per­fection. but the most perfect of them, which are emploied by the pope in defence of the popish faction and religion, do fructi­fie plenteously in telling of greatest lies, as we shall in his place exemplifie by Bellarmine a cardinall, and Robert Parsons in hope and desire a cardinall, and a most famous forger of lies. his putatiue father, father Coobucke, they say, could not with more art forge a horseshoo, than he can forge a lie. Fi­nally, for proofe of their traditions and doctrine, they haue for­ged diuers decretale epistles, and counterfeit canons, and haue written diuers lying legends. Parsons to trouble the state, vn­der the name of Dolman hath forged a booke of forged titles to the crowne, and Baronius for a cardinals hat hath béene hired with apocryphall trash raked out of euery blinde corner, and oft times most impudently forged, to corrupt the history of the church.

argument 11 The Nazarites were condemned for hereticks, first, for that they mingled Iewish ceremonies with Christian religion, and next, for that they boasted much of their reuelations and mi­racles, as is testified by Augustine de haeres. c. 9. and partly, by Epiphanius in haeres. 29. The like sentence therefore is to be pronounced against the papists, which Missal. Rom. consecrate euery yéere a Paschal lambe after a Iewish fashion, and obserue a cer­teine forme of Iubiley, and haue translated the priests apparel, and diuers ceremonies from the Iewes, as appeareth by Du­rand, and those that write of their ceremonies. Innocentius the third by a solemne decretale determineth, that what is con­teined [Page 128] in Deuteronomy, is now to be obserued in the new te­stament. cum Deuteronomium, saith C. per vene­rabilem. qui filij sint legitimi. he, secunda lex interpre­tetur, ex vi vocabuli comprobatur, vt quod ibi decernitur, in no­uo testamento debeat obseruari. but Deuteronomy conteineth an epitome of Moyses his law. finally, they bragge much of their reuelations, and miracles, and Bellar. de no­tis eccles. make them a marke of the church.

argument 12 The Heracleonites did anoint their followers departing out of this life, and gaue them a kinde of extreme vnction. Fe­runtur, saith S. De haeresib. c. 16. & Epiph. haeres. 36. Augustine, suos morientes nouo modo, quasi redimere, id est per oleum, balsamum, & aquam, & inuocatio­nes, quas Hebraicis verbis dicunt super capita eorum. and these their anointings and praiers, they thought to be groun­ded vpon the place out of the fift of S. Iames commonly alled­ged to this purpose, all which notwithstanding, they are num­bred among hereticks. it séemeth therefore, that the papists haue borowed their extreme vnction, their dirges and masses for the dead from hereticks. and I am the rather confirmed in this opinion, for that the praier for the dead, that is now in the canon, is not found in the olde ordinall of the church of Rome. neither did ancient Christians anoint those parts and senses, that the papists do. finally, they did anoint the sicke while the gifts of healing continued in the church, and to the intent, that the parties grieued might recouer their health: which circum­stances do now faile in our aduersaries cause.

argument 13 The followers of Helzai, and hereticks called Osseni, as Haeres. 19. an­te Christ. Epiphanius reporteth, did vse to swere by salt and bread, and other creatures. they worshipped also the spittle and reliques of two of their saints. Ibidem. thirdly, Helzai taught his disciples to pray in a tongue not vnderstood by them. nemo quaerat inter­pretationem, saith he, sed solùm haec dicat. then he added a praier in a strange tongue. Do we then thinke, that it is ca­tholike religion in papists, to sweare by bread and salt, and by creatures? and are they good Christians, that worship the re­liques of saints, and reserue their ashes and reliques in their altars, & pray in a tongue not vnderstood of them which pray, and say, it is not materiall although a man vnderstand not the interpretation of the words?

argument 14 Damascen. de haeresib. Marcion gaue women power to baptize, and albeit he [Page 129] had corrupted and abused a maiden, yet was he not ashamed to extoll virginitie. à Marcione, saith Epiphanius, Haeres. 42. virginitas praedicatur. Irenaeus lib. 1. aduers. haeres. c. 30. saith, that he and Saturninus began to teach abstinence from liuing crea­tures. he did also Epiphan. hae­res. 42. teach, that by Christes descending into hell diuers mens soules were thence deliuered, and separated ma­riages vnder pretence of religion, of which heresies, Tertull. ad­uers. Marcion. the pa­pists sauour very strongly. for first they authorize women to C. adijcimus. 16. q. 1. &c. mulier. de con­secrat. dist. 4. baptize, as did the Marcionistes. secondly they extoll virginitie and fasting highly, and make both a meanes of great merit, and yet obserue neither virginitie nor fasting. for their priests kéepe commonly harlots, if no woorse. the nunnes albeit mured vp, yet prooue oftentimes very frutefull. thirdly they imagine, that flesh is not so holy meat as fish, and beléeue that he that filleth himselfe with fish and other dainties doeth fast, where he that eateth a bit of flesh fasteth not. fourthly they separate mariages vpon pretence of monkish re­ligion, and hold that parties so separated may not againe co­habite together without sinne; and that contrary to the apo­stles commandement, 1. Cor. 7. lastly, they teach, that the pa­triarks before Christs time were deliuered by Christs descen­sion into hell out of that place, which they call limbum pa­trum, or receptacle of the fathers soules.

argument 15 The Messalians beléeued, that baptisme was onely auaile­able to cut away former sinnes so likewise the papists beléeue, that baptisme doeth onely purge and respect sinnes past, and that sinnes committed after baptisme are to be done away by penance. against them both Theodoret De diuin. de­cret. c. de bap­tism. teacheth, that bap­tisme is the earnest of future graces, and the communication of Christ his passion. againe he saith, non vt dicunt amentes Messaliani, baptismus nouaculam imitatur, quae praecesserunt peccata auferens. hoc enim ex superabundanti largitur. like­wise the Messalians did mumble ouer their praiers with their lips, hauing their heart otherwhere, and beléeued they were heard for their much babling. which custome blinde papists doe so well like, that they rehearse infinit auemariaes, pater nostres, and creedes, liking that babling religion, which mumbleth vp her praiers on a string of beades:

Mantuan Alph. lib. 4.
Quae filo insertis numerat sua murmura baccis.

[Page 130] and pattreth praiers, like an ape clattring with his chappes. the pope also giueth great indulgences to those, that say the ladies Rosary, and pray vpon their beads, albeit the poore soules vnderstande nothing of that they praie or rather pratle.

argument 16 The Caians were reputed heretikes for worshipping an­gels, and praying to them. vnusquisque eorum, saith Heres. 38. Epi­phanius, vniuscuiusque angeli nomen inuocat. for the same cause also the Epiphan. de angelicis. & Augustin. de haeres. c. 39. & Isid. lib. 8. orig. Angelickes were condemned both by the wri­tings of fathers, and acts of councels. non oportet Christianos say the C. 35. fathers assembled in the councell of Laodicea, dere­licta ecclesia abire, & ad angelos idololatriae abominandae congregationes facere. what then are we to thinke of papists, that pray to angels, and say masses in honour of them, and serue them deuoutly as their protectors? to auoid this blemish Carranza and others in the canon of Laodicea before recited, for angelos, write angulos, and so hope to hide their filthinesse in corners. But Theodoret doth plainly conuince them both of heresie, and falshood also. Synodus saith he, In epist. ad Coloss. c. 3. quae conuenit laodiceae lege prohibuit, ne precarentur angelos. that this worship of angels is superstitious, Chrysostome commenting vpon the epistle to the Colossians declareth, and especially in his ninth homily vpon that epistle.

argument 17 The Seuerians were noted as heretikes for their miracles either vainly forged, or by the diuels helpe effected. their pro­phetesse Augustin. de hares. c. 24. Philumena through a narrow mouthed glasse, would put in a prety bigge lofe, and draw it out againe with­out breaking the glasse. the Mirabiliaries were likewise con­demned, for that by miracles and prophecies they sought to confirme their opinions. and what doe the papists? doe not they likewise confirme all their superstition, false religion and idolatry with counterfect miracles? doe they not tell vs tales of Laurent. Vall. contra donat. Constanim. images speaking, of men headlesse walking, of dead men reuiuing? they will not deny it. nay Bellarmine maketh these miracles a marke of his church. but if they prooue false, their church must néeds prooue a false church by a very good conse­quent.

argument 18 The Tatians and other heretikes absteined from mariage, as a state of life impure and imperfect. The Romish priestes [Page 131] therefore, together with monks, friers and nunnes haue ab­iured mariage, as not compatible with their pretended mon­kish perfection. C. proposuisti. dist. 82. Syricius, or at least Gratian, or some other falsary vnder his name, calleth mariage fleshly pollutions. In Capgranes legends, the Romish saints no otherwise talke of mariage, then as if it were vncleannesse, sinne, and abomi­nation. diuers of our aduersaries haue written, that it is lesse sinne for priests to commit fornication, than to marry.

argument 19 The papists also agrée with the Manicheyes in diuers points sauoring of heresie. for as the Mancheyes condemned mariage in their priests, which for their excellency they called electos, so likewise doe the papists in their monks and greater orders of their clergie. secondly as the Manicheyes abstained from the cuppe in the Lords supper, and receiued one kinde onely, as appeareth by the testimony of Leo Serm. 4. de qua­drages. and of the chap. relatum, and c. comperimus. dist. 2. de consecrat. so likewise doe the papists diuiding, if Gelasius say true, one and the selfe same sacrament most sacrilegiously. thirdly both Manicheyes and papists destroy Christes huma­nity, the Manicheyes giuing him no true flesh, nor solide body, and the papists giuing him a body neither visible, nor palpa­ble, nor indued with the right dimensions and true properties of a body. both of them also say the body of Christ may be in many places at once. lastly the Manicheyes in their fasts, al­beit they abstained from flesh, yet vsed diuers other exquisite and dainty meates. and this is also the rigorous fast of most papists, which the rest will not deny to be a good fast after the popes law, and a good feast as Christians say.

argument 20 Montanus did first Apollonius apud Euseb. lib. 5. c. 17. establish lawes of fasting, as is recor­ded in the history of Eusebius, and appeareth also by the prac­tise of the church, that had no law concerning that matter in his time. the same also may be proued by the testimony of Augustine, who denieth, that any law concerning fasting was made by Christ or his apostles. quibus diebus Epist. 86. ad Casulan. saith he, non oporteat ieiunare, & quibus oporteat, praecepto domini, vel a­postolorum non inuenio definitum. Montanus also began first to Epiphan. in haeres. 48. dispute, that the scriptures were not perfect, and that they were to he supplied by his new paracletus, that as he said was to teach all things necessary. his Augustin. de haeres. c. 26. followers had the prophe­cies [Page 132] of Prisca, and Maximilla in great reuerence. both he and his disciples did beléeue Limbum Patrum, to be in hell Lib. de anima. in fi [...]t. Ter­tullian hauing learned of Montanus, taught, that small sinnes after this life were to be purged, and that his paracletus did of­ten recommend that doctrine. further by the testimony of vnwritten traditions, and his paracletus, he Lib. de coron. milit. proueth, that the suffering daies of martyrs were to be kept holy, and that sacrifi­ces should be offered for soules departed. the doctrine there­fore of the church of Rome concerning set fasts, the imperfecti­on of scriptures, vnwritten traditions, legendary prophecies of Brigit, and other Romish saints, and concerning Limbus Patrum in hell, and remission of sinnes after this life, and the oblations for soules departed, séemeth rather to procéed from Montanus, then from Christ or his apostles. finally the Mon­tanistes did not more'vant of their Prisca & Maximilla, then the papists of their Brigit, Hildegardis and Mechtildis. nor did Montanus offer for the soules departed otherwise, then the pa­pists.

argument 21 As the Pepuzians did honor their towne Pepuza, and call it Hierusalem, or the metropolis of their religion; so doe the pa­pists honor Rome. and both papists and Pepuzians suffer we­men to minister the sacrament or baptisme. should not then the papists haue great wrong, if they were not made equall in ranke with Pepuzians? herein they also surpasse them. for we doe not read, that any woman among the Pepuzians was made pope of Pepuza. but Martin Polonus, Marianus Scotus, Chronicon Chronicorum, Platina, and diuers authors of great credit report, that a woman was made pope of Rome, and her picture is to be séene in the dome of Siena among other popes, if it be not latele defaced. finally the Iebusites contending to shew the contrary, shew nothing but their owne impudency, and the hardnesse of their faces.

argument 22 The Catharistes boast much of their merits, purity and per­fection. Mundiores se ceteris praedicant, saith Lib. 8. orig. [...]. de haeres. Isidore. they doe also deny absolution in somes cases to the repentant, and rebaptize those that are already baptized. and is not this also the case of papists? they cannot well deny it. for they say that all monks and friers are in state of perfection, and deny that any iust man doth commit a mortall sinne. they deny also to [Page 133] hereticks relapsed as they call them all fauour, and absolue none in cases reserued to the pope. finally the histories of France and Flanders doe shew, that the popish priests haue there rebaptized many. and in England albeit they doe not rebaptize, yet they change the names and vse a number of greasie ceremonies frequented in the Romish church to supply our baptisme as they say.

argument 23 The Iacobites and Armenians were condemned for here­ticks, for that they made the images of God the father, and God the holy ghost. Imagines saith Lib hist. 18. c. 52. Nicephorus patris & spi­ritus sancti effigiant, quod est perquam absurdum. yet this ab­surdity is a high point of popish religion.

argument 24 The worshippers of the crosse, which were termed Chazin­zarij and Staurolatrae, were for that point estéemed hereticks. Nicephorus he woondreth at them, as strange fellowes. Cru­cem, saith he, adorare & colere dicuntur. Lib. hist. 18. c. 54. Is not then this a plaine conuiction of the papists, which worship the crosse, and say, aue sancta crux: and desire to be protected by it, and giue to it latriam, which I suppose the Staurolatrians were not so simple and stupid, as to giue to their crosses.

argument 25 The Collyridian heretikes were condemned for worship­ping the virgin Mary, and that worthily. for as Haeres. 78. Epiphanius saith, she was a virgin, and honorable, but not to be adored. and againe, non dominabitur nobis antiquus error, vt relinquamus viuentem, & adoremus ea, quae ab ipso facta sunt. all which not­withstanding the papists adore her, and worship her, and say many a masse in her honor, and pray vnto her; which I doubt whether the Collyridians did so grosly or no. Bonauenture to make her equall with God, as Dauid made Psalmes in the praise of God, so applied, or rather distorted Psalmes to the virgin Mary, turning God into the blessed virgine.

argument 26 The worshippers of images of saints by a certeine Hist. miscel. Paul. Diat. lib. 21. coun­cell of Constantinople, whose actes are recorded, and inserted in the sixt action of the second Nicene councell, were noten as idolaters, and condemned by the fathers as heretikes, or woorse. the synod of Francford did cōdemne the second Nicene councell, that allowed the worship of images. non nos ima­gines in basilicis positas, In lib. Carol. Magni contr. Synod, in par­tib. Graeciae pro imaginibus ad­orandis. say they, idola nuncupamus, sed ne idola nuncupentur, adorare & colere eas recusamus. which is [Page 134] nothing, but the iudgement of Gregory the first also, that would not haue images worshipped. Epiphanius haeres. 79. saith, that by worshipping of images, the minde is turned from one only God, to commit fornication with images. all which notwithstanding, the papists kisse them, bow to them, worship them, light candles, and burne incense vnto them, or at the least before them.

argument 27 The barefooted brethren were condemned for their hereti­call singularity in going barefoot. Est alia haeresis, saith Saint De hares. c. 68. Augustine, nudis pedibus semper ambulantium. yet this is accounted by the papists a part of their frierlike perfection, who haue orders of men and women that go barefoot, and be­léeue it is meritorious to goe barefoot in pilgrimages and pro­cessions.

argument 28 The apostolikes, notwithstanding their arrogant presump­tion in taking on them the name and profession of the apostles followers, were condemned as heretiks, for that they receiued none into their order, that had wiues, or possessed any thing in priuate. Apostolici, qui se isto nomine arrogantissimè vocaue­runt, saith Saint De hares. 40. Augustine, eo quod non receperunt in suam communionem vtentes coniugibus, & res proprias possidentes, quales habet ecclesia catholica, & monachos & clericos pluri­mos. where note, I pray you, how that Augustine saith, that monks and clergy men had wiues and goods in property: and how néere the papists come to this heresie condemning all monks and friers, that possesse any goods in property, and both monks and priests, that match themselues in mariage, though very honorable in the iudgement of the apostle.

argument 29 The Heraclites, as saith Isidore, were heretikes, that recei­ued only monks, and refused married folks to be of their com­pany. Monachos tantùm recipiunt, saith Orig. lib. 8. c. de hares. he, coniugia respu­unt. further, they beleeue not, that children dying yoong shall possesse the kingdome of heauen. and doe not monks and fri­ers, and other sects among the papists beléeue the like? do they not also exclude all infants dying before baptisme out of the kingdome of heauen, albeit the parents did by all meanes en­deuour to haue them baptized? and doe they not place such in limbo puerorum, which is either in hell, or els the papists know not where it is?

argument 30 The Priscillianistes disioine married folks for religion sake. Coniuges, saith S. Haeres. 70. Augustine, speaking of Priscillian, quibus hoc malum potuerit persuadere, disiungens: & viros à nolenti­bus foeminis, & foeminas à nolentibus viris. likewise, for hiding their wickednesse and filthinesse, they made no account to for­sweare themselues. Ibidem. propter occultandas contaminatioens & turpitudines suas habent in suis dogmatibus & haec verba: iura periura, secretum prodere noli. they doe also refuse to eat flesh, as vncleane meat, as S. Augustine testifieth. And what do pa­pists? doe not they likewise separate married folks, that vow monasticall religion? and do they not holde, that man or wife before marriage consummate, may enter into a monasterie, albeit the other party be most vnwilling? Of othes also they make no account. If thou be put to an oth, say the In annot. in act. 23. Rhemists, to accuse catholikes for seruing God (so they please to speake of papists worshipping idoles, and hearing the idolatrous masse) or to vtter any man to Gods enemies (thus they call her Maie­stie and the Iudges) thou ought first to refuse such vnlawfull othes. but if thou haue not constancy and courage so to doe: yet know thou, that such othes binde not in conscience and law of God: but may and must be broken vnder paine of damnati­on. where note, that they aduise men to forsweare themselues vnder paine of damnation: and that they call catholikes and Gods seruants such as are combined with the Pope and Spaniard, and come with an intention to murder their dread Souereigne, & to raise rebellion, or at least embrace the idola­trous religion of the pope. this is also the resolution of the two traitors, Allen and Parsons, in their wicked resolutions of ca­ses of conscience for the English nation, through which they haue brought diuers yong men to the destruction both of bodie and soule. Finally, if papists did not account flesh vncleane, why do the Carthusians forsweare flesh? and why doe papists account it more holy to eat fish, than flesh on fasting daies?

argument 31 The Helcesaits make Christ in heauen to differ from Christ on earth. Christum, saith Haeret. fab. lib. 2. c. de Helcesaeis. Theodoret speaking of them, non vnum dicunt, sed hunc quidem infernè, illum verò supernè: & eum olim in multis habitasse. so likewise the papists beléeue and teach, that Christ in heauen is visible and palpable, and hath the fulnesse, thicknesse and iust proportion of a body. but [Page 136] their Christ on the altar they beléeue to be neither visible nor palpable, neither that he filleth a place, or is conteined in one place. nay, they say he is substantially in euery one, that recei­ueth the sacrament, and not that onely, but also in euery pixe, and consecrated host.

argument 32 The Eutychianists deny, that Christ after the vnion of the two natures, had a true body, but as De ieiun. 7. mens. ser. 6. Leo signifieth, a bodie without shape, dimensions, or circumscription. they said also, that Christ was whole both in heauen, and earth: against whom Vigilius disputing, Lib 4. contr. Eutych. c. 4. saith, that the flesh of Christ when it was in in earth, was not in heauen, and now being in heauen, is not in earth. and their chiefe ground was, that Christes humane na­ture was abolished, euen as the mysticall signes are changed into another nature after the consecration of the sacrament. for this is plainly apparent in Theodorets second Dialogue. Who then vnderstandeth not, that the papists by their transubstan­tiation do bring in Eutychianisme, holding that Christes body in the sacrament is without all shape, and dimensions, that may be perceiued, and that his body is both in heauen and earth at one time, & also in as many altars and places, as the sacrament is? who doth not likewise perceiue that Christes humanitie is abolished, if the substance of bread and wine be abolished in the sacrament, especially if the vnion of the two natures in Christes person be fitly resembled by the fathers to the sacrament? This, certes, is a matter very euident, that both Theodoret dialog. 1. and Gelasius writing against Euty­ches, doth confute his heresie by this reason, for that the sub­stance of the bread remaineth in the sacrament. which being de­nied by papists, is it not very plaine, that they reduce and bring backe into the world the old decaied heresie of Eutyches?

argument 33 The papists also in many points conspire with the enemies of the grace of God the Pelagians. Augustin. de haeres. c. 88. Pelagius saith, that with­out grace a man may doe all Gods commandements. Voluit credi, saith Augustine, etiam si difficilius, tamen posse homines sine gratia diuina facere iussa. and De grat. & lib. arb. lib. 5. c. 5. &c. 9. Bellar. saith, Solis naturae viribus posse aliquem ad breuissimum tempus omnia seruare. scilicit, diuina mandata. he shifteth off the matter, with saying, quoad substantiam operis. but that, no question, but the Pela­gians would also admit. Pelagius said also, that grace is infused [Page 137] according to merit. The papists also teach, that men doing quantum in se est: God is present with his grace. and this they call meritum congrui, or preparations to iustification. they do not deny also, but after a man hath grace, he may me­rit a greater measure of grace. thirdly, both Pelagians and papists agrée in the definition of sinne. Propriè vocatur pecca­tum, saith Vid. August. contra Iulian. & de grat. Pelagius, quod libera voluntate, & à sciente com­mittitur. so also say the papists, as appeareth by the censure of Coleine. Againe, the Pelagians teach, that a iust man in this life may be without sinne. Hoc Pelagiani audent dicere, saith, S. De bono per­seuerant. lib. 2. c. 5. Augustine, hominem iustum in hac vita omnino nullum habere peccatum. and in his booke of heresies. c. 88. he shew­eth it is Pelagianisme to holde, that the life of iust men in this life hath no sinne. Lib. 4. de iustif. c. 11. Bellar. also holdeth, that a man is able to per­forme the law perfectly. of which it followeth, that a man may be without all sinne. for how can a man fulfill the law, but he must be without all sinne? All papists generally hold, that all iust men are without mortall sinnes.

The Pelagians doe Augustin. contra Iulian. lib. 6. c. 6. teach, that concupiscence by baptisme is sanctified, and being before euill, doth afterward begin not to be euill: which doctrine S. Augustine calleth very absurd. yet from this doctrine can not the papists cleare themselues, when they teach that concupiscence after baptisme, and in the rege­nerat, is no sinne.

The Pelagians would not grant, that the Gentiles sinned in all their actions, nor that their actions were sinne, as done with­out faith, as S. Contra Iuli­an. lib. 4. c. 3. Augustine sheweth. no more will the papists grant it, as appeareth by Bellarmines disputes lib. 5. de grat. & lib. arb. c. 5. & 9. nay, they sticke not to hold, that they may do all good works according to the substance of the worke.

The Contr. dua [...] epist. Pelag. c. 19. Pelagians were woont to say, in omni bono opere ho­minem semper adiuuari à gratia; and Ibid. lib. 4. c. 6. againe, gratiam adiuua­re bonum cuius (que) propositum. and Bellar. likewise lib. 2. de grat. & lib. arb. c. 5. disputeth, that God according to time and place giueth grace sufficient to all men.

The August. lib. 1. de grat. c. 28. Pelagians say, nos forte & firmum habere ad non peccandum liberum arbitrium. and S. Lib. 2. de bap­tismo. Augustine teacheth vs, that this doctrine is Pelagianisme▪ yet doe the papists hold, that sinne is subiect to our will, as the censurers of Coleyn doe [Page 138] speake. Bellarmine also lib. 5. de grat. & lib. arb. in diuers pla­ces alloweth this power to frée will, to be able to doe good, and to absteine from sinne.

The Pelagians deny orignall sinne, as saint Augustine lib. de haeres. c. 88. teacheth. and most papists now hold, that the virgine Mary was conceiued without originall sinne, as ap­pereth by the testimony of Bellarmine, lib. 4. de amissione grat. c. 15. now to deny originall sinne to be in any, is Pelagianisme, as Bellarmine lib. de notis ecclesiae c. 9. disputeth.

Saint Augustinne Contra. epist. Pelag. lib. 4. c. 6. & 8. de grat. lib, 1. c. 14. teacheth vs, that it is Pelagianisme to hold, that God is ready with his grace, if he see a mans soule ready and prepared to receiue it: and, that a naturall man may desire his owne conuersion. and yet the papists will not denie these propositions, nor seeme to dislike them.

S. In Hierem. 13. Hierome saith, that the Pelagians did interpret these sentences: our iustice is like a cloth of a menstruous woman. and, no man is good, no not one: in this sort, as if the holie Ghost, had ment, that man in comparison of God is not iust, or good. which is also the sleight and cunning interpretation of papists.

Both Pelagians and Papists vse the same reasons to prooue the strength of fréewill: as first, that we are commanded to choose, and next, that God would not command vs things im­possible. magnum aliquid se scire putant Pelagiani. saith saint Degrat. & lib. arb. c. 16. Augustine, quando dicunt non iuberet deus quod sciret ab homine non posse fieri. so likewise the papists say, if we had not fréewill; that then God would not command vs to doe things. but he confuteth both their reasons in the words fol­lowing. quis hoc nesciat? saith he. sed ideo iubet aliqua quae non possumus, vt nouerimus, quid ab illo petere debeamus. he saith not, that we haue frée will, to doe good works, because God commandeth vs to doe them; but rather sheweth that God commandeth vs to doe things, which we are not able of our selues to doe, that we may learne what to craue and begge at Gods hands. we may therefore well conclude, that the pa­pists are farre declined towards Pelagianisme. and that long before vs, did Lib. 1. de grat. aduers. Pelag. Thomas Brandwardine, perceiue & declare, and therefore doubteth not to call the popish schoolemen Pelagians. totus mundus saith he, post pelagium in errorem abiit. exurge [Page 139] deus & iudica causam tuam. this man wrote about 300. yeares agone. but now our aduersaries are growne woorse and woorse.

argument 34 The Donatists, as saint De haeres. c. 69. Augustine writeth, beléeued, that the church was onely conteined in Afrike, and consisted in the obedience or part of Donatus; quod ecclesia Christi saith hée, in Africa, & Donati parte remanserit. they did also rebaptize catholike Christians. if this then be heresie, the papists may not escape scot frée, that beleeue the catholike Romane church onely, and take none for Christians but such, Geronym [...] Campos, cate­techism. & Brist. motiut 12. as take the popes part, and liue vnder his obedience. they doe also presume sometimes to rebaptize, such as haue béene baptized in our churches.

argument 35 The Circumcellions shought it a matter meritorious to kil those, that were contrary to their sect, immania facinora perpe­trando, as S. De haeres. c. 69. Augustine saith. nay that holy man himselfe did hardly escape their ambuscadoes laid for him. like to them also doe papists teach, that it is lawfull and meritorious to kill princes excommunicate by the pope. both pope Pius the fift, and Sixtus the fift, vpon paine of excommunication, comman­ded her Maiesties subiects to take armes against her. Sixtus quintus that shamelesse frier, did La fulmi­nante. highly commend Iames Cle­ment the Dominican frier, that murdred his liege prince Hen­rie the third king of France. Iohn Ghineard a Iebusite did mainteine this doctrine of murdring princes, and was there­fore by arrest of the parliament of Paris condemned & execu­ted. by these desperate Assassines and hired murderers the pa­pists killed the prince of Orenge and Iames the regent of Scot­land, and poisoned diuers others. Alphonsus Diazius did most wickedly murder his owne brother, and yet was protec­ted by the pope. finally by diuers meanes they haue sought to murder the Queenes Maiestie, king Henry the 4. of France, Graue Maurice, and all that stand in their way: farre passing not onely the hereticall circumcellions, but also the Turkish assassins.

argument 36 The Audaeans or Anthropomorphites did imagine God to haue an humane shape, & parts like a mortall man. Cogitati­one carnali, saith De haeres. c. 50. Augustine, Deum fingebant in similitu dinem hominis corruptibilis. The papists likewise cannot imagine, [Page 140] but that God is like man, when they expresse God the father in likenesse of an olde man, or at the least imagine such images to be like God. they doe also make the image of the incom­prehensible trinity. let the people be taught say the men of S [...]ss. 25. Trent, that the Godhead is not therefore figured, as if it could be seene with corporeall eies, or expressed wirh colours or figures. it appeareth therefore they meant it should be re­presented, though it could not be well expressed by figures.

argument 37 Origen beléeued, that sinnes might be purged and done a­way after this life. and therefore Augustine de haeres. c. 43. imagined, that euen the damned after some long time might be saued. he delighted also to draw scriptures to serue allegoricall sences. if then it be heresie to say, that great sinnes are to be remitted after this life, why is it not heresie to holde, that small sinnes may be then remitted: seeing we haue but one meanes to obtaine remission of sinnes? againe why should allegoricall interpre­tations be more allowable in papists, then in Origen? finally why should not other damned soules be as well saued as Trai­ans soule and the soule of Falconilla an idolatresse, at the inter­cession of Gregory, as Damascen and the papists beléeue?

argument 38 Eunomius taught, that so a man were of his religion, it skilled not greatly what sinnes he committed. asseuerabat saith De haeres. [...]. 54. Augustine, quod nihil cuiquam obesset quorumlibet perpetratio, ac perseuerantia peccatorum, si huius, quae ab ipso docebatur, fidei particeps esset. vnto which heresie the pa­pists come very nere. for the pope to all his followers promi­seth heauen, if they beléeue as he doth, and will come to confession. his canonists teach that the pope, albeit he draw innu­merable soules to hell, and continue in all wickednesse, yet he is Christes true vicar, and the head of the church. Lib. de eccles. milit. c. 2. Bellarmi­ne requireth no inward vertue in the true members of the church, which he defineth, so they professe outwardly and communicate with the pope. let the world then iudge, what church the papists build, when they admitte Piers Lacy, Tiro­ne, the white knight, and such wicked rebels to be true parts and members of their society.

argument 39 The 1. Tim. 4. apostle condemned them as hereticks, that forbad men to marry, and to abstaine from certaine meates. where­upon saith In 1. Tim. 4. Theodoret: rectè posuit, prohibentium contra­here [Page 141] matrimonium. neque eum Caelibatum, aut continentiam vituperat, sed eos accusat, qui lege lata ea sequi compellunt. if then the papists by sharpe lawes forbid priests and monks to marry, and to eat certaine meates, are they not within the compasse of these false teachers?

argument 40 The hereticks called Anomi, were condemned as heretiks, for that they either contemned, or corrupted the law of God. is it not then some blemish to papists, that they make the law of God to be vnperfect, and Sess. 4. concil. Trid. make their owne traditions e­quall to Gods law? and is it not heresie, to make a new law­giuer, as the papists doe, c. translato. de constitutionibus: and to cut off the second commandement concerning the making of grauen images? finally doe they imagine that it is no error to Concil. Trid. sess. 5. say, that concupisence is no sinne, which is direct contrary to the apostles doctrine Rom. 7. and to the law of God?

argument 41 Ireneus and Tertullian doth range them among hereticks, which flie from scriptures, and when they are conuinced by them, fall to accuse them, affirming that the apostles did not commit all things necessary to saluation to writing. cum ex scripturis arguuntur, saith Aduers. ha­res. lib. 3. c. 2. Ireney, in accusationem conuer­tuntur scripturarum, quasi non rectè habeant, neque sint ex au­thoritate, & quia varie sunt dictae, & quia non possit ex his in­ueniri veritas ab his, qui nesciant traditionem. norrenim per li­teras traditam illam, sed per vinam vocem, ob quam causam & Paulum dixisse, sapientiam loquimur inter perfectos. Tertulli­an saith, it is a tricke of heretikes either to falsifie, or by false in­terpretations to peruert scriptures. alius manu scripturas, saith De praescript. aduers. haeres. he, alius sensu expositiones interuertit. he saith againe, that hereticks cannot stand, if they be brought to try their cause by scriptures. aufer haereticis saith De resurr. caernis. he, quae cumque ethnici sapi­unt, vt de scripturis solis quaestiones suas sistant, & stare non pos­sunt. in these points therefore these two fathers haue strick­en the papists, albeit generally they speake of hereticks. for first Bellar. de verb. Dei non scripto. they deny, that the scriptures containe doctrine suffici­ent to saluation, or that we can learne all trueth necessary out of them without their traditions. secondly they speake euill of scriptures, as before hath bene shewed. thirdly they say that scriptures receiue authority from the church. fourthly they accuse them of vncertenty. Turrian aduers. Sadeelem lib. 1. [Page 142] doth call them Delphicum gladium: and others call them a nose of waxe. fiftly they allow no sence, but such as the syna­gogue of Rome authorizeth. sixtly either Sixtus Quintus or Clement the 8. hath corrupted the scriptures. for both pre­tending to set our the olde latine translation the one is in di­uers places contrary to the other. finally they will not haue the scriptures to decide controuersies about matters of faith.

argument 42 Lib. 8. Orig. c de haeres. Isidore doth declare them to be heretikes, that doe other­wise vnde [...]stand the scriptures, then the meaning of the holie Ghost requireth. quicunque saith he, aliter scripturam sacram intelligit, quam sensus spiritus sancti flagitat, a quo conscripta est, licèt de ecclesia non recesserit, tamen haereticus potest ap­pellari. if then we list to reade the popes decretales, or the writings of the popish faction; we need not doubt, but they are tresgrand heretikes, hauing so notoriously peruerted the Scriptures, and turned them to sences neuer intended by the holy Ghost. as for example, these words of the Isai 1. prophet, à planta pedis vsque ad verticem non est in eo sanitas, which he spoke of the people of Israel being then most sinfull, Clement the sixt in the chap. vnigenitus extr. de poenit. & remiss. doeth turne to our Sauiour Christ, as if our Sauiour had béene vn­sound from the foot to the head: or that the prophet had ment, that our Sauiour had shed all his blood, that the pope might make sale of the frute of it at his pleasure.

God by his prophet Hierem. 1. saith, I haue appointed thee ouer na­tions and kingdomes. ergo saith C. vnam sanctam. ext. de maior. & obed. Boniface the 8. if earthly princes goe out of the way, they must be iudged by the pope. Againe, out of these words of the apostle: the spirituall man iudgeth all things: he Ibidem. Ibid. collecteth, that the pope hath no supe­rior iudge. thirdly because Christ saith to Peter, put vp thy sword into the sheath, he concludeth, that both Peter, and his successors ought to haue a temporall sword. fourthly of these words, ecce duo gladij hic: Ibid. he inferreth, that the pope is to command and exercise both the swords. The Isai. 8 & 28. prophets and Rom. 9. & 1. Pet. 2. apostles by the corner stone placed in the foundation of the church doe vnderstand Christ Iesus. but Bellarmine in his pre­face prefixed before his bookes de potifice Rom. draweth these words to the pope, and forceth them to serue to make him to be a corner stone, and a foundation also of the church. he will [Page 143] also haue these words, super hanc Petram aedificabo ecclesiam meam: to be ment of the pope. these words of our Sauiour, drinke yee all of this: the papists expound in such sort, as if Christ had said, drinke not all of this. the words of our Sa­uiour to Peter, when he said, pasce oues meas: they appro­priate to the pope, that féedeth not, as if none were to féed, but the pope.

The apostle saith, mariage is honorable among all men: yet will they not allow, that mariage is honourable among nunnes, and monks, and friers, and masse priests, and the rest of the Romish clergy. where our Sauiour Christ saith, scru­tamini scripturas; they say contrary, search not the scriptu­res. the apostle saith, they are profitable: they Index libror. prohibit. regul. 4 say, they are pernicious. our sauiour saith, that those doe in vaine worship him, that teach doctrines of men: these doe teach humane tra­ditions, and yet doubt not, but that God is well pleased with them. The spirit of God commandeth, that praiers be made for princes: and willeth euery Christian man, to submit him­selfe to the magistrate, and to higher powers. but the papists doe so expound these words, as if it were lawfull for the pope to curse Gods annointed, to excommunicate kings and empe­rors, to massacre them, if they can, & to raise rebellion against them. It were infinite to reherse all the false interpretations of Scriptures, deuised by papists. beside that, in this place it is not necessarie, séeing by these few which we haue alledged already, it may in part appeare, that neuer any heretikes al­ledged Scriptures more peruersly, nor more direct contrarie to the meaning of the holy Ghost, then they.

argument 43 As the Damascene. de haeres. Herodians gaue the name and honour of Christ to Herode; so the papists doe giue the names and honour of Christ to the pope, allowing these words of Bernard to Euge­nius, vnctione Christus es. they cal him the foundation & rocke of the church, the head and spouse of the church, the monarke of the church, and Christes vicar generall. In epist. dedic. ante princip. doctrin. Stapleton doth call him supremum numen in terris. some teach, that he and Christ haue but one consistory betwéene them. Lib. Caerem. others saie, that all power is giuen to the pope in heauen and earth: which words our Sauiour Matth. 28. speaketh of himselfe. if then the Herodians deserue for honouring Herod with Christs ti­tles, [Page 144] to be reputed heretikes, who can cleare the papists from the note of heresie, that farre more impudently and wickedly giue Christs honour to the pope?

argument 44 De haeres. c. beicetae. Damascene numbreth those monkes and nunnes among heretikes, that méeting together, vsed to skip and dance also together, as they thought, to the praise of God. yet doe not the popish sort leaue their piping and dancing processions, nor doe priests, monkes, and nunnes cease to celebrate their co­medicall dancing masses skipping and hopping about the al­ter like apes, that are taught to skippe, and to leape for their masters best aduantage.

argument 45 Gnosimachi were certaine heretiks, that held an opiniō, that vulgar Christians were not to study the scriptures. omni Chris­tianorum congnitioni ac scientiae ita aduersantur, Ibidem c. gnosimachi. saith Dama­scene, vt vanum, & minus necessarium laborem esse dicant eo­rum, qui in diuinis scripturis aliquam exquírunt scientiam. ne­que enim deum aliud à Christiano postulare, quam bonas, prae­clarasque actiones. Itaque aliquem simplici, rudique animo institutum suum persequi melius est, vt aiunt, quam multam cu­ram in cognoscendis decretis & sententijs ponere. and like to these hereticks are the papists, for they holde it to be mortall sinne for lay men to dispute vpon matters of faith, as Nauarrns in his enchiridion declareth. they suppose also, that the coli­ars faith is sufficient, albeit he knoweth nothing, but being demanded a reason of his faith answereth, that he beleeueth as the church beleeueth. De legit. iudi­cibus lib. 1. Hosius writing against Brentius doth greatly commend ignorance, and doth greatly allow this saying, thy faith hath saued thee, and not the exercise of scrip­tures. Lib. 3. de au­thorit. scripturae. he saith also, that nothing is more pernitious, then with scriptures to enter into a combat with Satan. generally they allow an implicit faith in the rude sort, and dehort them from knowledge of scriptures: which is the flat heresie of the Gnosimachians.

argument 46 The Damascene de haeres. 6. Ethnophronians were by the church condemned for obseruing diuers heathenish customes, & holidaies. which not­withstanding, pope Boniface the 8. instituted the Iubiley euery hundred yeares in imitation of certaine plaies, or games cal­led Ludi seculares. the papists also haue their expiations and lustrations with holy water, like to the gentles, they kéepe [Page 145] their carneual, as the Romans kept their lupercalia, running disguised vp and downe the stréets. they canonize saints, as the heathen did canonize their benefactors for gods. and like as they burned incense to their idols, so papists burne incense to their idols. neither doe they regard, that such as offered in­cense to dumbe idols in the primitiue church, were condemned as idolaters, as appeareth by diuers censures of Cyprian, and others contra thurificantes: that is against those that burned incense before idols. they doe likewise offer sacrifices, or infe­rias, for the soules of the departed, as did the Gentiles. finally they vse lots, and coniurations, and lash themselues before their images, and haue diuers other tricks of gentilisme,

argument 47 As the Montanists, so likewise doe papists mislike second mariages denying to blesse them, and not accounting those mariages so holy a sacrament, as the first. nay they séeme to goe yet farther, & to enioine pennance for 2. mariages 31. q. 1. de his qui. & con­cil. Neocaesar. they de­crée, presbyterū conuiuio secundarum nuptiarum interesse non debere, maximè, cum praecipiatur secundis nuptijs poenitentiam tribuere. quis ergo erit presbiter qui propter conuiuium illis consentiat nuptijs? it appeareth therefore, that they would not haue priests to allow second mariages, or to blesse them, or to be present at them.

argument 48 De haeres. c. Christiano-categori. Damascene also accounteth them hereticks, that worship­ped the images of our sauiour, of the blessed virgine, and the saints, as the gentiles did their gods: which is iust the case of papists. for both of them bow vnto them, pray before them, burne incense to them, offer sacrifice in honor of them: and yet both of them deny, that they worship stocks or stones, and say that they worship only the things represented by them, as Lib. 2. diuin. instit. c. 2. Lac­tantius testifieth of the Gentiles, and is very often repeated by papists.

argument 49 The papists doe likewise in diuers conditions and quali­ties, resemble the olde hereticks, and false teachers, of which the apostles, and ancient fathers make mention. the Rom. 16. apostle when he had warned the Romans to beware of those, that cau­sed diuisions and scandals, he addeth also, against that doctrine, which they had receiued. In the first epistle to Timothy chap. 6. he sheweth, that hereticks had a fashion, to teach other doc­trine, and not to rest in the wholsome words of our Lord Iesus [Page 146] Christ. The apostle 2. Pet. 2. Peter saith, that there shall rise vp false teachers, which shall priuily bring in heresies, and damnable sects. De praescript. aduers. haeret. Tertullian doth oppose hereticks to the apostles, and their doctrine to apostolicall doctrine. vnde extranei, & inimici apostolis haeretici, saith he, nisi ex diuersitate doctrinae, quam v­nusquisque de suo arbitrio aduersus apostolos, aut protulit aut recepit? If then the schoolemen and doctors of the popish syna­gogue haue caused a great diuision from the apostolicke and ancient church, and haue taught doctrine diuers from that of Iesus Christ; and if they rest not in the holsome words of Christ Iesus, but make humane traditions equall to the word of God; if they haue troubled, and corrupted the déepest, and highest mysteries of Christian religion by their late inuentions, and haue digressed from the doctrine of the apostles, and refuse to be tried by the writings of the prophets and apostles; then are they cléerely prooued to be false teachers and heretikes. that they are departed from the doctrine of the apostles, and haue brought in diuers heresies, and sects, and new doctrines, which by no meanes are to be reputed catholike, it may be pro­ued by this whole discourse. It is made euident also by the grounds of popish religion, by the popes decretales, by the schoole diuinitie, by the lying and fabulous legends of the Ro­mish church, by the doctrine of the conuenticle of Trent, by the manifold corruptions of the masse, by the idolatrous worship, not onely of saints, but also of stocks, stones, rotten bones, and ragges, by their rebellion against princes, and by the tyranny of the pope, and finally, by the Iebusites new doctrine concer­ning these points. nay, if they teach doctrine contrary to scrip­tures, and to the apostles; by their owne confession they will be proued heretikes. Haeresis, saith Lib. 2. part. 1. Occham, est dogma fal­sum fidei contrarium orthodoxae. Apud Matt. Paris in Hen­ric. 3. Robert Grosthed saith, that heresie is an opinion chosen of humane vnderstanding contrary to scripture, and either openly taught, or defended. Apud Dio­nys. Carthus. in 3. sent. dist. 31. Durand signifieth, that heresie is onely an opinion contrary to canonicall scripture. Opinio ista, saith he, non est haeretica, quia non est contra canonicam scripturam. finally, the councell of Aen. Sylu. de gist. concil. Ba­sil. lib. 1. Basil doth determine him to be an heretike, thatdoth reiect the ca­tholike faith deduced out of canonicall scriptures, and proued by fathers.

argument 56 They holde also, that our sauiour Christ did passe out of his mothers wombe, as the raies of the sunne do pierce thorow the substance of the glasse. quomodo solis radij concretam vitri sub­stantiam penetrant. for these are the words of the Romane Part. 1. in exposit. 3. art. fid. ca­techisme. but this sheweth, that they giue no true flesh to our Sauior, and that they ouerthrow the article of Christes nati­uitie, and a principall mystery of Christian religion.

argument 51 Peter Lib. 1. sent. dist. 14. Lombard teacheth, that there is a two fold procee­ding of the holy Ghost, the one temporal, the other eternal. but this point his own scholers do mislike, as erronious. non debet concedi, saith Occham, writing vpon this place, quod spiritus sancti sit duplex processio, ne duae spiritus sancti processiones videantur (vt sunt duae filij generationes) vna aeterna ex patre, altera temporalis ex filio. they also dislike his doctrine, sentent. lib. 1. dist. 18. §. 4. where he doth teach, that the Holy Ghost is as properly said, to be a gift, as to proceed. his words are, aequè donum esse, ac procedere.

argument 52 Lib. 3. p. 290. Andradius saith, that philosophers by naturall knowledge, and by the works of the creation, did after a sort know Christ crucified, which I hope Robert Parsons will not denie to be er­roneous.

argument 53 The conuenticle of Sess. 6. c. 9. Trent teacheth vs, alwaies in this life to doubt of Gods fauour towards vs, and of our owne saluation. which is nothing els, but a plaine demonstratiō, that the same teacheth not true faith, but rather a superstitious distrust, and oppugneth these two articles of our Créed, I beleeue remission of sinnes, and aeternall life.

argument 54 Finally, all those points of doctrine, which before I haue de­clared to be neither ancient, nor catholike, and which do plain­ly declare, that the papists are not the true church, are also ap­parently erroneous. which in part hath béene proued, and shall further be declared at all times, if either Robert Parsons, or any man of note among the papists, leauing off his vaine bangling about quo­tations, dare vndertake particularly to answer my challenge, or will aduenture hand to hand to encounter me.

CHAP. V. That all papists, if they mainteine the doctrine of the pope and Romish church, are plaine idolaters.

HOw odious and hainous a sinne idolatrie is, the scriptures doe in many places declare. Al­mighty God hauing published his law against idolatrie, addeth a very seuere threatning a­gainst those, that should transgresse it. I am the Lord thy God, saith Exod. 20. he, strong and jelous, and visit the sinnes of the fathers vpon the children vnto the third and fourth generation of those that hate mee. and when the children of Israel departed from their God, to worship a mol­ten image: Suffer me, saith Exod. 32. he to Moyses, that my wrath may waxe hot against them, and that I may consume them. Idolatry in scriptures is called spirituall fornication. but nothing can more displease a man, than that his spouse shall forsake him, and breaking the couenant of marriage, run after strangers. In this case therefore, Deuter. 13. God forbiddeth a brother to spare his brother, or a father his sonne, or a husband his wife, if any of them arise and say, come and let vs serue other gods. Sit pri­mum manus tua super eum, saith Moyses. neither are idolaters onely punished in this life, but also in the life to come. With­out, saith Apocal. 22. Iohn, shall be dogges, coniurers, vncleane persons, murderers, and such as serue idoles. and in the 21. chapter of the Reuelation he saith, that idolaters shall haue their part in the lake, that burneth with fire and brimstone. If then popish re­ligion do plainly mainteine most grosse idolatry, as not onely by their practise is prooued, but also by diuers godly mens wri­tings verified; not onely the magistrates are diligently and seriously to represse the priests of Baal, and the mainteiners of idolatry, but also all Christians are carefully to take héed of their damnable doctrine. if not, let them assure themselues, that they shall neither auoid Gods iudgements in this life, nor the lake of fire and brimstone prepared for idolaters in the life to come. And lest any papist should complaine, that I doe greatly wrong the Romanists, and their religion, charging [Page 149] them with idolatry; I do now, God willing, purpose to make my charge good in this chapter. What papists are not, I decla­red in the thrée first chapters, and, I hope, I haue made it plaine, that they are neither true Christians, nor catholikes. it followed, that I should shew what they are. and that in part is performed. for I haue declared them to be heretikes. it re­steth therefore now for a fuller description of their nature, that I declare them to be idolaters. in the last part we shall, God willing, examine the loialtie of Rob. Parsons and all the popes agents and adherents.

That the papists therefore are idolaters, it shall be prooued by arguments first drawen out of scriptures. secondly, out of fathers. thirdly, out of the confession of some learned papists, and lastly, out of their owne common doctrine and practise.

argument 1 That papists are idolaters arg. 1. The first law of the decalogue doeth expresly forbid the hauing of other Gods. non habebis deos alienos saith God, coram me. that is, thou shalt haue no strange Gods before me, or els thou shalt haue no other Gods, but me. out of these words I frame this argument. whosoeuer doeth worship or serue any other God, beside the Lord God, that created hea­uen and earth, is an idolater. but the papists doe worship, and serue other Gods beside the God of heauen and earth. ergo. the proposition is prooued first by the intention of the law, that séemeth principally to be made against idolatry; and not onely against worship of idols subiect to our sences, but also against idoles, which men frame to themselues in their owne imagi­nations and fancies. secondly by the textes of Scriptures, that account them idolaters, not onely that worship idoles of colour, or mettall, or other matter, but also that honor with religious honor such things, as themselues fancie to haue di­uine power. so couetousnesse is called worshipping of idoles, Eph. 5. and those are idolaters, that serue Matth. 6. Mammon, or call a wedge of gold their god, or that put trust or confidence in any creature, visible, or inuisible, or that serue or worship any thing for God, but onely the euerliuing and true God. finally whatsoeuer a man doeth out of his owne fancy set vp for God, that may by good construction well be termed an idole, or a false God.

The assumption is prooued by diuers particulars. for first it [Page 150] is plaine, that the papists make the sacrament of the Lordes body and blood their Lord and God, both in that they call it so, and in that they Rubric. can. Missae. fall downe and worship it. secondly they call vpon angels, saints, and specially vpon the virgine Marie. thirdly they put their trust in them fourthly they make vowes vnto them. fiftly they confesse their sinnes vnto them. finally they bow downe their bodies before them, and publikely worship them, as is prooued by their common practise. the Rubrickes also of their missals, and breuiaries, and ladies offices, together with their blasphemous praiers made to angels, saints, and other creatures doe shew the same to bée most true. but the scriptures doe Hierem. 17. testifie first, that we are to put our trust in God onely: secondly, that we are to call on him Psal. 50. Ioel. 2. Rom. 10. faithfully: thirdly, that we are to make our Isai. 19. vowes to him onely: fourthly, that we are religiously to serue him onely: and finally, that we are to confesse our sinnes to God onely, Matth. 4. and to giue religious worship to none, but to him a­lone. And this the practise of the ancient church most euident­ly confirmeth, which neuer allowed, receiued, nor vsed to yéeld any such profane worship to angels, saints, or other crea­tures, as the papists giue vnto them; as in the first chapter of this discourse hath at large béene prooued. superstitiosi sunt, qui multos ac falsos deos colunt, saith Lib. 4. instit. c. 28. Lactantius, nos religi­osi, qui vni & vero deo supplicamus. those are superstitious, which worship many and false gods, we are religious which call vpon one true God. the papists percase will answer, that they worship not either false gods, or many gods. but séeing they giue the worship of God to many; and call vpon creatures and make vowes vnto them, and build churches, and altars, in their honour, and doe ascribe to them that, which is pro­per to God; they cannot by any meanes auoid the charge of plurality of gods. for euen the Macrob. Sa­ [...]tnal. Gentiles can answer, that they draw all to one God. yet because they attributed di­uine power to creatures and inferiour persons, therefore no man will deny, but that they worshipped many gods. there­fore Libr. 3. de cultu sanct. c. 9. Bellarmine saith plainly, quod votum non conuenit san­ctis, nisi quatenus sunt dij per participationem. that is, that vowes are not to be made to saints, but as they are gods by participation. may it not then be truely said, that papists wor­ship [Page 151] strange gods? yes certes. and if they deny it, they are strange felowes.

argument 2 Argu. 2. Almighty God doth also forbid his people to make any grauen image, or likenesse of anything, either in heauen aboue or in the earth below, or in the water vnder the earth, Exod. 20. to the in­tent to bow downe to it, and to worship it. non facies tibi sculp­tile, neque omnem similitudinem, quae est in coelo desuper, & quae in terra deorsum, nec eorum, quae sunt in aquis sub terra; non adorabis ea, neque coles. if then it be not lawfull to make sculptile, or a grauen image, to the end to worship it; and if those, that doe worship such grauen images be idolaters, no question is to be made, but that papists are grosse idolaters. for they make the images of God in heauen, of men that som­time liued on the earth, and of some that percase now may be in hell. they make also grauen and molten images of angels and other creatures, and fall downe and worship them. to the crosse they pray, and Breuiar. Rom. [...] say, auge pijs iustitiam, reisque dona veniam. that is, increase righteousnesse in the godly, and grant pardon to sinners. the schoolemen holde, that what worship is due to the originall, is due also to the picture, or image. so saith Alexander Hales part. 3. q. 30. art. vlt. Thomas Aquinas 3. p. q. 25. art. 3. and Caietan in his commentaries vpon him. so then by these mens doctrines the Crucifixe is to be worshipped with like worship, as we doe worship Christ Iesus: and the image of God is to be worshipped with the worship due to God himselfe. and this is so plaine idolatry, that Lib. 2. de ima­ginib. c. 22. Bellarmine is constrained to deny, that Latria or diuine worship is due to i­mages properly. so albeit he would excuse himselfe, yet in effect he maketh himselfe to be an idolater improperly, & all the anci­ent schoolemen, and synagogue of Rome for this 2. or 3. hun­dred yeares properly. for Hierome condemneth them for ido­laters, that worshipped the statues, or images of Emperors, albeit the same may séeme a ciuill ceremony. iudices & princi­pes seculi saith In cap. 3 Daniel he, qui imperatorum statuas adorant & imagi­nes, hoc se facere intelligāt, quod tres pueri facere nolentes pla­cuerunt deo. how then can they escape his censure, that fall downe before the statues and images of saints, and there pray before them, and offer incense to them?

argument 3 Argu. 3. We are also forbidden expresly to make any similitude, or [Page 152] likenesse of God. and a reason is Deut. 4. added. for that God spea­king to his people out of the fire in Mount Horeb, yet they saw no likenesse of any thing. and this God did, least his people being deceiued should make an image of male or female, or o­ther thing, and so adore and worship it. if then it be against the commandement of God, to represent him in any shape, and to adore any creature whether male or female, spirituall or corporall; then are papists grosse idolaters, that make images of God, and worship both male and female saints, as appea­reth both by the canon of the masse, and also by their doctrine and practise. nay they doe not onely bow their bodies to them, but also set vp lightes, and offer vp spirituall sacrifices of prai­ers vnto them.

argument 4 In Argu. 4. most plaine termes also Leuit. 26. God prohibiteth the mak­ing of idols, or grauen images, and the erecting of monuments, or titles, or stones for signals to be worshipped. non facietis vo­bis idolum & sculptile, saith the Lord, nec titulos erigetis, nec insignem lapidem ponetis in terra vestra, vt adoretis eum. nei­ther was there any thing intended in this law, then that the people of Israel should be restrained from idolatry. is it not then plaine, that such as make idols, and grauen images, and erect crosses, and stocks and stones to be worshipped, are ido­laters? it cannot well be denied. but percase our aduersaries will say. they neither erect, nor make any idols. as if euery i­mage worshipped with religious worship were not an idole, as it is said in the booke of Charles the great set forth against the second councell of Nice, and the worship of images.

Beside that, to preuent this simple shift of idolaters, that distinguish images, yea though worshipped with diuine wor­ship, from idols, the scripture saith, non facietis vobis idolum & sculptile, taking all grauen images worshipped with religi­ous worship for idols. but our aduersaries doe procéed fur­ther. for as the gentils did fall downe before their idols, and pray before them, and burne incense to them; so doe they to their images. they doe also relie much in their idole of the al­tar, and put no small trust in the crosse, and their images. to the crosse they [...]rcu [...]ar. Rom. ô crux aue spes vnica. that is, ô crosse all haile, our onely hope. are not then these wooden felowes, that thus say to a wooden crosse? in the Romish breuiary, they pray [Page 153] to our lady, as to their anchor hold, and say; Sumens illud aue Gabrielis ore, funda nos in pace. that is, receiuing, an aue, from Gabriels mouth establish and found vs in peace. which how­soeuer they obtaine, they found our opinion most firmely, that say, they are idolaters.

argument 5 Argu. 5. In the 81. psalme God by his prophet forbiddeth his peo­ple to worship new gods, or strange gods▪ non erit in te, saith he, Deus recens, neque adorabis deum alienum. and no questi­on, but that such, as doe either inuent new gods, or strange gods, are idolaters. let vs then see, whether the papists doe not worship both new gods and strange gods, and such as the apo­stles and prophets neuer knew. first they will not deny, that the eucharist is their lord and god. for that I haue shewed be­fore. next they confesse, that the images of the trinity are to be worshipped with the worship that is dew to God. further they doe daily canonize new saints. and make new masses and praiers in their honor. but these are new gods neuer knowen in ancient time, and gods by participation, as Bellar­mine calleth them, and very strange gods. nay euery day they conscerate new hosts, and make new images, and new crosses and new saints. finally the newest saints and gods with them haue best credit. doe they not then worship new gods? and doe they not frame vs a new religion.

argument 6 Argu. 6. The Israelits Exod. 32. were cōdemned for their idolatry, although they pretended to worship the true God in a golden calfe. and this is apparent by the words of Aaron, and the text following. to morrow said Aaron, is a solemne feast of the Lord. and when that day came, it is said, that the people of­fered burnt sacrifices, and peace offrings. which if they had bene offered to the calfe, what reason had Aaron to talke of the feast day of the Lord? or why should the people say, that those were the gods, that brought Israel out of Aegypt, but that they imagined, that they did worship ye inuisible God, that brought them out of Aegypt in that visible calfe? The mother also of Micha Iudges 17. affirmeth, that she had sanctified certaine siluer (whereof a molten image was made) to the lord, to make a grauen image of it. It is apparent also, that 3. Reg. 12. Ierobo­am did consecrate his two idols, which he erected in Bethel & Dan to the Lord, yet were all those that worshipped either [Page 154] the calfe, or Michas or Ieroboams idols, grosse idolaters. nei­ther was it any excuse for them, that they did not worship the matter, or any thing corporeal; or that, as they thought, they did worship the true god in these images. if then the papists worship either God, or saints in images; it is first contrary to Gods commandement, and next it is plaine idolatry, albeit they pretend, that they neither worship siluer, nor golde, nor the images themselues materially, or grosly. but much more is it so to be estéemed, if any of them, as the fashion is, worship and kisse stocks and stones, and offer light, and other commo­dities vnto the very statues and images them selues.

argument 7 Argu. 7. It is also a property of idolaters, to reioice in the works of their owne hands, as may be proued by the words of Ste­phen act. 7. laetabantur, saith he, in operibus manuum suarum. further it is their wont, to worship those very images, which themselues made. Act. 7. figuras quas fecistis saith the scripture, ado­rare eas. and this is also apparent by the practise of the papists. for they celebrate solemne feasts on the day of the dedication of their images, and vant much of the miracles of the lady of Walsingham, of Monserrat, of Loreto. Horatius Tursellinus a Iebusite, and a panegyricall declamer hath in a vanting vaine set out the story of the acts, miracles, offrings, and festiuities of the lady of Loreto. they likewise were wont to talke much of Thomas of Canterbury, and yet talke of the images of Saint Sebastian, and Saint Rocke, and of the Cocle shells of Saint Michael, which in liew of the substance of religion, they giue to their followers. finally they fall downe, and adore the ima­ges, which themselues haue made; and which the heathen scarce did, they creepe to them on their knées, touch them with their fingers, set vp light before them, pray to them, and say, sancte Christophore, sancte Hermingilde, sancti coronati qua­tuor, audite nos, intercedite pro nobis. They doe offer also, which the priests like best of all, rich presents to them, as is e­uident by the rich shrine of Thomas Becket in time past, and now by the great treasure of the idole of Loreto, set out by Histor. Lauret. Tursellinus.

argument 8 Scriptures doe account them idolaters, that serue the hoast of heauen, as is testified by the prophet Amos, chap. 5. and saint Stephen, Act. 7. where it is said, that God gaue ouer his [Page 155] people to serue the hoast of heauen: seruite militiae coeli. are not then those simple papists giuen ouer to a strange dulnesse, and as it were to a reprobate sence, that worship angels, and archangels, he saints, and she saints, In missal. Rom. & breuiar. & Hortulo animae. and all the hoast and court of heauen? and is it not strange to heare them pray in their litanies, Sancta virgo vriginum, sancte Michael, sancte Gabriel, sancte Raphael, omnes angeli & archangeli, omnes sancti beatorum spirituum ordines orate pro nobis: omnes sancti, & sanctae dei intercedite pro nobis.

argument 9 Argu. 9. Amos doth account them idolaters, that erected taberna­cles to their gods, and caried about with them, the images or pourtraits of their false gods. portastis tabernaculum Moloch vestro, Amos 5. saith he, imaginem idolorum vestrorum, sidus dei ve­stri, quae fecistis vobis. you haue caried about the tabernacle erected to Moloch, the image of your idole gods, the starre of your god, which you made to your selues. what then may we thinke of papists, if we scanne their false worship of God ac­cording to this rule? doe not they also place their corpus do­mini, which they call their lord and god in a pixe or taberna­cle? doe they not carie him also about in procession, and with him for company other idoles of wood and mettall? doe they not also worship the holy virgin Marie, and salute her, and call her a starre, and say, aue Maris stella: haile thou starre of the sea, alluding, percase, to Venus, whom poets faine to haue her beginning of the sea? and doe not the Spaniards call on her at sea, as if God had made her a commander there?

argument 10 The prophets words of the heathen mens idoles, do most excellently fit the popish images. the Simulachra. images of the Gentiles saith Psal. 114. he, are siluer and gold, the worke of mens hands. they haue mouthes and speake not, they haue eies and see not, they haue eares and heare not, they haue noses and smell not, hands they haue, and handle not, feet haue they, and walke not, nei­ther doeth any voice passe through their throat. apply then this to the great image of great saint Christopher, as you enter our ladies church at Paris. for albeit the same be great and large; yet he neither séeth, nor féeleth, nor smelleth, nor spea­keth, nor walketh. onely the priests are sory, that he is not of siluer and gold, that they might cut him in pieces and make money of him. our lady of Loret also, albeit women be more [Page 156] talkatiue then men, speaketh not a word. diuers images also they haue of siluer and gold, and other mettals; but all with­out sence and motion, vnlesse by engins the false masse priests be able to make them mooue. the Chap. 15. author of the booke of Wis­dome sheweth, that the sight of such images and pictures well shadowed out in colours doeth delight sencelesse and brutish folke; which doe also loue the shape of dead images without soule, but that the godly are not abused with such idolatrous inuentions and pictures, or labour without frute. non in erro­rem induxit nos saith he in the person of godly men, hominum malae artis exogitati, nec vmbra picturae, labor sine fructu, ef­figies sculpta per varios colores, cuius aspectus insensato dat concupiscentiam, & diligit mortuae imaginis effigiem sine ani­ma. are not then the papists more blockish, then the old idola­ters, that take such delight in their painted tables, and in their images without soule, yea oftentimes without good or decent shape? and are not our masse priests madde, that runne to the pope, and for loue of his idolatrous religion, are content to breake their necks in England, practising for his seruice?

argument 11 Argu. 11. The offrings of the Gentiles, are immolated and offred to diuels, and not to God, as the 1. Cor. 10. apostle teacheth vs, quae im­molant Gentes saith he, daemoniis immolant, & non deo. it can­not therefore serue the papists turne, that they say, they wor­ship God, in his image, improperly. secundum rei veritatem saith De imagin. lib. 2. c. 22. Bellarmine, non potest dici adorari latria imaginem, nisi per accidens vel improprie; per se autem, & propriè, nullo modo. this, I say, albeit contrary to all the best schoolemens doctrine, can not excuse the papists from idolatry. for albeit the Gentiles did not per se, and properly immolate sacrifices to idoles and diuels; yet because they sacrificed before idoles, and in other sort, than God had commanded, the apostle calleth this the diuels sacrifice. I would therefore exhort all simple pa­pists to beware, how they come at the idolatrous masse. for albeit their priests tell them, that they offer vp the bodie and blood of the sonne of God; yet in trueth they offer the diuels sa­crifice, and say masse in honor of their idoles, and before ima­ges; and can no better excuse themselues, than heathen idola­ters, that might aswell as they, say, they worshipped not their images with latria per se, and properly, but in a certeine sort, & [Page 157] improperly. the apostle doth plainly declare, that both heathen men, & they sacrificing in this sort, offer to diuels, & not to god.

argument 12 Arg. 12. God signifieth them to be idolaters, that built high pla­ces, which he neuer commanded them, nor thought of any such matter. Quae non praecepi, nec cogitaui in corde meo, saith Hierem. 7. he. and this because they thought, that God was to be serued ac­cording to their owne inuentions, and humors. he doth also directly charge them with idolatrie, that made vowes to the Queene of heauen, that sacrificed vnto her, and serued her, say­ing, faciamus vota nostra quae vouimus, vt sacrificemus reginae coeli. And do not papists build their altars in high places, & ascend vnto them by steps? doe they not also worship God in images, and formes which God neuer commaunded, nor thought vpon? doe they not further, call the holy virgine regi­nam coeli, and poli reginam, that is the Queene of heauen? doe they not finally, say masses in honor of her, and offer consecra­ted hosts for her swéet seruice euery Saturday?

argument 13 Arg. 13. The papists also giue the honor due to God vnto grauen images, teaching, that the same worship is due vnto the image, and to the originall; and that, as Thomas and the olde schoole­wen holde, absolutely and without distinction, and as Bellar­mine beléeueth, improperly, and as he termeth it, by an acci­dent. but this is contrary to scriptures, and can not be déemed lesse, than plaine idolatry. I am the Lord, saith Isai. 42. God by his prophet, and my glory I will not giue to another, nor my praise to grauen images. Ego Dominus, saith he, gloriam meam alteri non dabo, & laudem meam sculptilibus. gladly I would there­fore haue Rob. Parsons to shew, how grauen images may be worshipped with diuine honor, & yet without repugnance to scripture, or derogation to Gods honor, or touch of idolatrie.

argument 14 Arg. 14. Like to the Babylonians the papists deale with their ima­ges. the images also of papists are not much vnlike to the idoles of the Babylonians. the Babylonians carried their gol­den, siluer, wooden and stone gods on their shoulders. Videbi­tis, saith Baruch. 6. Baruch, in Babylonia deos aureos, & argenteos, & la­pideos, & ligneos in humeris portari. The papists likewise, they haue images, which they worship as God, some of golde, some of siluer, some parcell gilt, some of wood, some of stone, and in processions they carry them about triumphantly on mens [Page 158] shoulders. Inaurata, & inargentata falsa sunt, & non possunt lo­qui, saith Baruch of the idoles of the Babylonians. so likewise, there is no trueth in the gilt images of the papists; neither can they speake, or mooue, whatsoeuer you doe to them. The Ba­bylonians put golden crownes on the heads of their images, and the priests stole from them their golde and siluer, and bestowed it on themselues, and sometime on baggages and whores. Co­ronas aureas habent, saith Baruch, super capita sua dij illorum, vnde subtrahunt ab eis aurum & argentum, & erogant illud in semetipsos. dant autem ex ipso prostitutis, & meretrices ornant. and do not popish priests likewise set coronets on the heads of their images, and steale away the offerings which blinde and superstitious people giue to images, and bestow part on them­selues, and part on their whores and baggages? The Baby­lonians clad their idoles with purple; and yet could not the idoles keepe their faces cleane from dust. Opertis illis veste purpurea extergunt faciem ipsorū propter puluerem, saith Ba­ruch. and what doth experience teach vs? doe we not sée, how the masse priests set out their images with purple and scarlet, and wipe their faces with foxe tailes to keepe them from the dust? and yet the simple ideot papists see not, that these impo­stors and charlatains pay them for all their deuotions with the flap of a foxe taile. neither the idoles of the Babylonians, nor the images of papists can kéepe themselues from rust, cor­ruption and théeues. who then can otherwise thinke, but that the papists are idolaters as the Babylonians were, and that they haue learned this abomination from the whore of Baby­lon, that hath a cup in her hand full of spirituall fornications, and abominations?

argument 15 Arg. 15. As the idolatrous Hierem. 2. Iewes said to a stocke, thou art my fa­ther, and to a stone, thou hast begotten me: so the idolatrous papists before stocks and stones say Pater noster, and the bab­ling friers in their chaires say to a crucifixe of wood or mettall standing by them, thou hast redeemed vs, thou hast reconciled vs to thy father. concionatores saith Lib. 2. de i­maginib. c. 23. Bellar. alloquuntur ima­ginem crucifixi, eique dicunt, tu nos redemisti, tu nos patri re­conciliasti: men more blockish and sencelesse, then stocks and stones. and yet Christians suffer themselues still to be abused by them, and are not ashamed of it, when they are tolde of it, [Page 159] as the Iewes were being reproued by the prophet.

argument 17 Arg. 17. As the Hierem. 2. Iewes according to the number of their cities, had the number of their gods; so the deceiued papists according to the number of nations, and cities haue their saints, and idols. some call on Saint Ieames, others on Saint Patricke, others on Saint Denys, and euery towne, nay euery parish hath their seuerall patrons. priuate persons also serue diuers saints ac­cording to their seuerall humors. and therefore we may say to the blinde papists, secundum numerum ciuitatum vestrarum, & dij vestri, ô miseri & Caeci idololatrae. nay we may say thus further, according to your families, and diuers occasions, you haue diuers saints and diuers gods, vpon whom you call for healp and remedy. to Saint Antony they flie for their piggs, to Saint Loy or Lewes for their horses, to Saint Sebastian in time of sicknesse and plague, to saint Apollonia for their téeth. they flie also to other saints and implore their help, as gods for other seuerall matters, and vpon seuerall occasions.

argument 18 Arg. 18. The apostle forbiddeth the humble seruice, and seduce­ment of religious worship of angels. nemo vos seducat volens, saith Coloss. 2. he, in humilitate & religione angelorum. neither were these noted for other respect as idolaters and hereticks, but be­cause vnder pretence of a certaine counterfect humility, and basenesse, they vsed the mediation of angels, as may be pro­ued by the commentaries of Theodoret, and Chrysostomes homilies vpon the 2. and 3. chap. of Saint Paules epistle to the Colossians. if then the papists will néeds worship angels, and vse their mediation, they must not maruell, if they be noted as idolaters. which is also proued more plainly by the record of Iohn apocalypse 22. who when he fell downe before the féete of the angell, and would haue adored and worshipped him, receiued his checke, see thou do it not, I am thy fellow ser­uant. postquam audissem & vidissem saith he, cecidi vt adorarem ante pedes angeli, qui mihi haec ostendebat, & dixit mihi: vide ne feceris. conseruus enim tuus sum, & fratrum tuorum prophe­tarum &c. if then papists shame not to adore angels, and to implore their help; these words of Saint Iohn shall alwaies conuince them to be idolaters.

argument 19 Arg. 19. Saint Iohn doth expresly forbid the worship of statues and images, where Iohn 5. he saith, custodite vos à simulachris, that [Page 160] is, keepe your selues from images, or idols. for in effect both words signifie one thing; albeit the abuse of images, hath gi­uen the title of idols onely to images abused. if then papists doe recalcitrate, and repugne against the prohibition of the apostle, that directeth his spéech agianst idolatry; their consci­ence must néeds accuse them, that they are guilty of idolatry, which he forbiddeth, as often as they worship them.

argument 20 Arg. 20. To serue creatures, and to call vpon them publickely, and with an opinion of their diuine power to honor them, is plaine idolatry, as appeareth by the words of the confession of the people of Israell who returning from their idolatry, Iudges 10. said, de­reliquimus dominum deum nostrum, & seruiuimus Baalim. that is, we haue forsaken the Lord and serued Baalim. and by Gods answere to them: coluistis deos alienos. &c. ite, & inuo­cate deos, quos elegistis. that is, you haue worshipped strange gods, goe therefore and call vpon the gods, which you haue chosen. but the papists confesse, that they worship angels, and saints with Dulia or seruice, and it was wont to be a common doctrine among papists, that the image and originall were to be worshipped with one kinde of worship. they doe also set vp strange gods, and call vpon the angels and saints in their publicke litanies, and in diuers collects. who then cannot col­lect out of these litanies, and collects, that papists are plaine idolaters? if they will not beléeue our collection; yet I hope they will not deny our sauiour Christes doctrine, that teacheth, that God alone is to be adored, and serued. dominum deum tuum adorabis saith Matth. 4. he, & illi soli seruies.

argument 21 Arg. 21. It is also plaine idolatry, to offer incense vnto creatures, to erect altars vnto them, and with a publicke forme of liturgy to worship them, as appeareth in part by the example of 2 Paralip. 30. Hezechias and his people, that ouerthrew the altars, where­in incense was burnt vnto strange gods. destruxerunt altaria saith the text, quae erant in Hierusalem, atque vniuersa, in qui­bus idolis adolebatur incensum subuertentes proiecerunt in torrentem cedron. would not then such masse priests, as burne incense to their idols, and cense their idolatrous altars, be repressed, and their altars ouerthrowne, and their strange fire be throwen out of the church?

argument 22 Arg. 22. The apostle act. 17. doth plainely declare, that God nei­ther [Page 161] dwelleth in temples made with hands, nor is worshipped with mens hands. non habitat in templis manufactis, nec ma­nibus humanis colitur. those therefore, that worship God in images, and images with their owne deuises, as the papists doe, doe decline to gentilisme, and idolatry.

argument 23 Arg. 23. Finally the scriptures doe signifie, that it is idolatry to ex­presse God by any similitude, or figure, and to worship the same. for that is expresly forbidden in the commandement a­gainst idolatry, and the holy scriptures to recall Gods people from this idolatrous humor, doth diuersly declare, that he can­not be expressed or figured by any likenesse. cui similem feci­stis deum? saith the Isai. 40. prophet, aut quam imaginem ponetis ei? numquid sculptile conflauit faber, aut aurifex auro figurauit il­lud, & laminis argenteis argentarius? he doth plainely expresse, that no image can be made like to God, and that neither the grauer, nor smith can resemble him with their grauen images. and againe, non debemus existimate saith Act. 17. Saint Paule, auro aut argento, aut lapidi sculpturae artis & cogitationis hominis diuinum numen esse simile. we ought not to imagine, that God is like to gold, or siluer, or stone grauen by art or deuise of man. those therefore that by grauing and painting resemble God the father to an old man, or the holy ghost to a doue, and make shapes of the holy Trinity repugne manifestly against scrip­ture, and worshipping those images shew themselues to be grosse idolaters. neither is it any excuse, that they say, they doe not goe about to expresse the diuine nature. for if they doe not that, then doe they expresse nothing but a fancy, and wor­ship a fancy, and so proue themselues to worship idols, that is as Bellarmine confesseth false images or resemblances. idolum saith he, est falsa similiiudo, id est representat id, Lib. 2. de ima­ginib. c. 5. quod reuera non est. but God is not like to these resemblances. therefore they must néeds be false, and they that worship them true ido­laters by the confession of Bellarmine.

argument 24 Arg. 24. The fathers also minister vs good arguments, not onely to reproue the papists false worship, but also to proue them ido­laters. Quis tam amens erit, saith Praeparat. euangel. lib. 3. Eusebius, vt dei formam & imaginem statua viro simili referri perhibeat? that is, who will be so mad as to auow, that God may be expressed and re­sembled by an image like to a man? Athanasius in orat. contra [Page 162] Sabellij gregales, calleth them fools and mad men, that made God like to things, that haue bodies. quam imaginem ponetis ei, saith Hierome in Isaiae c. 40. qui spiritus est, & in omnibus est? what image will you erect for him, which is a spirit, and is in all things?

Stromat. lib. 1. & 5. Clement of Alexandria saith, that Moyses taught vs, that neither in the shape of man, nor any other thing God is to be re­presented. and Origen likewise in his 7. booke against Celsus, denieth that Christians are to make any resemblance, or like­nesse of God.

Tale simulachrum saith saint De file & symbolo. Augustine, speaking of God made in shape like a man, deo nefas est Christiano in templo collocare. It is a wicked thing saith he, to make the image of God and to place it in the church.

In deuter. q 1. Theodoret teacheth vs, that the law of Moyses forbiddeth vs so much as once to attempt to frame an image, or similitude of God: Ne tentemus vnquam saith he, diuinam imaginem effingere.

Damascene lib. 4. de fide c 17. saith, it is a point of great folly and impietie, by figures and similitudes to represent God.

The Audeans were condemned, for that they taught, that God had a shape like to man. Haeres. 70. Epiphanius disputing against them: quomodopossibile est saith he, visibile simile esse inui­sibili, quomodo corporale incorporali? Lib. hist. 18. c. 53. Nicephorus recko­neth those among heretickes, that made the images of God the Father and God the holy Ghost. imagines patris & spiri­tus sancti effigiant, saith he, quod perquam absurdum est.

Finally it appeareth by the testimony of Agrippa in a cer­teine epistle to Caligula, of which In legat. ad Caium. Philo maketh mention, that it was accounted a thing impious amongst the Iewes either in picture, or grauen or embossed worke to represent God, that is inuisible. inuisibilem deum pingere aut fingere, saith he, ne­fas duxerunt maiores nostri.

If then the papists make the images of God the father, and the holy Ghost, and of the holy Trinitie, and worship them with diuine worship, according to the schoole doctrine; then doe they by the iudgement of the fathers not onely transgresse Gods law, and offend most foolishly and wickedly, but also [Page 163] commit most grosse idolatrie. but it cannot be denied, either that they make such pictures, and images, or that they wor­ship them. that they make them, the common practise of the Romish church, and the front of Sixtus quintus his bible, and diuers popish monuments doe teach vs, that they doe worship them, the decrée of the Sess. 25. councell of Trent concerning images, the common schoole doctrine, and practise of papists doth teach vs. Suares in 3. p. Thomae Aquin. tom. 1. disput. 54. sect. 4. & 5. doeth affirme it: and Bellarmine in his disputes doeth not deny it. how then are they able to excuse themselues from pal­pable and grosse idolatry? Lib. 2. de cult [...] imag. c. 8. Bellarmine where he disputeth, that it is lawfull to make the images of God, and namely, the image of the holy Ghost, saith, that the images of God may be made or painted, if not to expresse the perfect likenesse of God, yet to expresse histories, and to expresse the nature of God by a certeine analogie, and by metaphoricall and mysticall signifi­cations. afterwards he saith, Ibid. c. 25. that images are to be worshipped with the same worship, that is due to the original imperfectly, & analogically. but the first is sufficent to shew, and that most perfectly, that he speaketh impudently against the law of God, and all the fathers, that vtterly denied all vse of pic­tures of God, either in stories, or in mysticall significations. the second declareth him and his consorts to be idolaters, and that perfectly, albeit be surmise it to be imperfectly and analo­gically.

argument 25 Saint Ambrose teacheth vs, that to worship the crosse or crucifix is plaine idolatry, and paganisme. Inuenit Helena crucem domini saith De qbitu Theodosi [...]. he, regem adorauit, non lignum vtique, quia hic Gentilis est error, sed adorauit illum, qui pependit in cruce. he saith, that Helene finding the crosse, did adore her king (that is Christ Iesus) and not the wood, because this is the error of the heathen (idolaters) he addeth also, that she worshipped him, that hung on the crosse.

In epist. ad Ioan. Hieroso­lym. apud Hie­ron. Epiphanius also sheweth, that the image of Christ is not to be worshipped, nor hung vp in churches, for that he tore a vaile, wherein such an image was figured, and that contrary to scriptures, as he saith. inueni velum pendens in foribus e­iusdem ecclesiae tinctum atque depictum, & habens imagi­nem, quasi Christi, saith Epiphanius. and afterward, cum hoc [Page 164] vidissem in ecclesia Christi contra authoritatem scripturarum hominis pendere imaginem, scidi illud. the papists therefore by the iudgement of Epiphanius place Christ his image in the church, contrary to scriptures, and like to the heathen idola­ters worship the crosse, giuing to it latria, as to Christ Iesus himselfe.

argument 26 The worship also of angels, which the papists practise, is idolatrous. for they pray vnto them In litanijc. saying, sancte Micha­el, sancte Gabriel, sancte, Raphael, omnes angeli & archan­geli, orate pro nobis. they In itinerario ad finem Bre­uiarij. pray likewise to vnknowen an­gels. they confesse their sinnes to them saying, confite or bea­to Michaeli archangelo. they set them out in imagery, and bow to them, and burne incense to them, and kisse them. finally they erect churches and altars, and say masses in honour of angels. all which to be idolatrous, not onely the scriptures, but also the fathers teach vs. non oportet Christianos say the fathers of the Can. 35. councell of Laodicea, derelicta ecclesia abi­re, & adangelos idolatriae abominandae congregationes facere. Christians say they, ought not to leaue the church of God, and to assemble themselues idolatrously, to worship angels they do also excommunicate such, as worship angels, as idolaters. In summa concil. Laod. c. 35. [...] Carranza to wipe away this blot from the papists, turneth angelos, into angulos. but Chrysostome and Theodoret in their commentaries and homilies vpon the epistle to the Col­loss. c. 2. & 3. doe plainly shew, that the councell condemned the worship of angels, which they also condemne. synodus quae conuenit Laodiceae, saith Theodoret in epist. ad Coloss. c. 3. lege prohibuit, ne precarentur angelos.

Nos non dico martyrum reliquias saith In epist. ad Riparium. Hierome, sed ne solem quidem & Iunam, non angelos non archangelos, non cherubim, non seraphim, & omne nomen, quod nominatur, & in praesenti seculo & in futuro colimus & adoramus, ne ser­uiamus creaturae potius quam creatori, qui est benedictus in se­cula. he saith, Haeres. 79. that Christians do not worship, or adore angels; and signifieth, that such worship is idolatrous, as sauoring of seruice of creatures, honoramus eos charitate saith saint Augu­stine lib. de ver. relig. c. 55. speaking of angels, non seruitute: nec eis templa construimus. angelos adorari non vult, that is, God will not haue vs, saith l Epiphanius, to adore angels. and [Page 165] againe, angeli non capiunt talem glorificationem. Augustine doeth therefore condemne the Angelikes, as heretikes, for that they worshipped angels. Angelici saith he de haeres. c. 39. in an­gelorum cultu inclinati.

argument 27 The papists worship the sacrament of the altar. in the ru­brike of the Romish misial, after the words of consecration, the priest is enioined, to worship the sacrament. hostiam conse­cratam genu flexo adorat. likewise, calicem genu flexo adorat. the people also knocke their brests, and adore it. neither doe the papists deny, but that the sacrament is to be adored latriae cultu, that is, with such worship as is due to God. but the sa­crament is a creature. therefore they are plaine idolaters, that worship it. and this is prooued by the testimony of Epi­phanius. stultum est saith Haeres. 69. Epiphanius, creaturam deificare. reprobat autem primum praeceptum, quod dicit, dominum deum tuum adorabis, & ipsi soli cultum praestabis. he saith it is a foolish thing to worship a creature as God. and therefore proo­ueth, that Christ is God and no creature, because he is wor­shipped, and for that the church doeth not worship a creature. vnlesse therefore Christ be hypostatically and personally vni­ted to the sacrament; those that worship the sacrament, are idolaters. as for those that worship vnconsecrated hostes, the papists themselues deny not to be idolaters.

argument 28 They are also idolaters, that worship the images and pic­tures of the virgine Mary, of angels, and saints departed this life. the councell of Eliberis to auoid this idolatry Can. 36. decréed, picturas in ecclesijs esse non debere, ne quod colitur, aut ado­ratur in parietibus depingatur. that is, that pictures should not be in the church, least any thing, that is worshipped, or ado­red, should be painted on walles.

Non est dubium saith Lib. 2. instit. diuin. c. 18. Lactantius, quin religio nulla sit, vbicunque simulachrum est. nam si religio ex diuinis rebus est, diuini autem nihil est, nisi in caelestibus rebus: carent ergo re­ligione simulachra, quia nihil potest esse coeleste in ea re, quae fit ex terra. he teacheth vs, that there is no religion, where ima­ges are worshipped, as being earth, and not sauoring of any heauenly, or diuine quality, or substance.

Inueni velum pendens in foribus eiusdem ecclesiae tinctum, at (que) depictum, saith Ad Ioan. Hie­rosolym. apud Hieronymous. Epiphanius, & habens imaginem quasi [Page 166] Christi, vel sancti. non enim satis memini, cuius imago fuerit. cum ergo hoc vidissem in ecclesia Christi contra authoritatem scripturarum hominis pendere imaginem, scidi illud. and after­ward, Precor, vt iubeas presbyteros eiusdem loci suscipere ve­lum à latore, quod à nobis missum est, & deinceps praecipere, in ecclesia Christi istiusmodi vela, quae contra religionem nostram veniunt, non appendi. he doth plainly shew, that to place pic­tures & images in churches, is contrary to scriptures & religi­on. neither doth he only condemne heathen idoles, but images in churches also. Vnto this place our aduersaries answer, that these words were not written by Epiphanius, but soisted in by some other. but in his booke against heresies he sheweth him­selfe to be of the same opinion, and doth strongly confirme that, which is héere said. Writing against the Collyridians, haeres. 79. he sheweth, that the inuention of images, and their worship came of the diuell. Vnde non est, saith he, simulacrificum hoc studium, & diabolicus conatus? praetextu enim iustitiae semper subiens hominum mentem diabolus mortalem naturam in ho­minum oculis deificans, statuas humanas imagines prae se feren­tes per artium varietatem expressit. & mortui quidem sunt, qui adorantur, ipsorum verò imagines, quae nunquam vixerunt ado­randas introducunt adulterante mente ab vno & solo Deo, velut commune scortum ad multam multiplicis coitus absurditatem irritatum, & quod temperantiam legitimi coniugij vnius viri detriuit. he doth cléerely shew, that the diabolicall inuention of images hath adulterated the seruice of God, and brought in ab­surd spirituall fornications. S. De haeres. in cap. 6. Augustine sheweth, that one Marcellina was noted as an heretike and a follower of Carpo­crates, because she worshipped the images of Iesu and Paul. Colebat, saith he, imagines Iesu, & Pauli, & Homeri, & Pytha­gorae, adorando & incensum ponendo. and yet in burning of incense, and adoring the images of Iesu and Paul our aduersa­ries the papists nothing dissent from her. He doth also con­demne those, that worship sepulchres, and pictures, as those which doe that, which belongeth not to the religion of Christi­ans. Noui, saith De morib. eccles. c. 34. he, multos esse sepulchrorum, & picturarum adoratores.

Likewise S. Hierome in Danielis c. 3. doth condemne the worship of images. Siue statuam, vt Symachus, siue imaginem [Page 167] auream vt alij transtulerunt, voluerimus legere, cultores Dei cam adorare non debent.

Gregory also the first, albeit he would not haue images bro­ken downe, yet did he teach, that they ought not to be worship­ped, as may be gathered by his words, lib. 7. epist. 109. and lib. 9. epist. 9.

Finally, the worship of images is condemned, as idolatrous by a certeine councell of Constantinople, whose acts are inser­ted in the reports of things passed in the second councell of Nice; in the councell of Francfort vnder Charles the great, & a certeine councel of Paris about the yere of our Lord 824. in the time of Lewes Charles the great his sonne. Non nos imagines in Basilicis positas, saith the In lib. Caroli Magni c [...]ntr. imagin. councell of Francfort, idola nun­cupamus, sed ne idola nuncupentur, adorare & colere eas recu­samus. the councell signifieth, that images being worshipped in churches are idoles. neither doth any thing more confirme the Christian faith touching the false worship of images, and sta­tues, than Bellarmine his wretched and wicked answeres to these obiections in his treatise concerning the worship of ima­ges. as shall shortly God willing appeare by our answere, and hath sufficiently beene declared by M. D. Rainolds already in his learned booke De Romanae ecclesiae idolatria against Bellar­mine.

argument 29 Arg. 29. The papists also shew themselues idolaters in calling vpon saints departed, in deuising masses in their honor, in setting vp light before their dead bones, and praying before their ima­ges, as the holy fathers teach vs, that haue shewed themselues alwaies ready and forward to suppresse such abuses.

S. In epistol. ad Ripar. Hierome saith, that the reliques of martyrs are not to be adored. his words I haue before related. answering in de­fence of such women, as light candles at noone day, Contra Vigi­lant. he confes­seth plainly, that they had zeale, but not according to know­ledge. Zelum habent, saith he, sed non secundum scientiam.

Sed ne (que) Helias adorandus est, saith Haeres. 79. Epiphanius, etiamsi in viuis sit, ne (que) Ioannes adorandus, quamuis per preces suas pro­prias dormitionem suam admirandam effecerit, imò potius ex Deo gratiam acceperit. sed ne (que) Tecla, ne (que) quisquam sanctus adoratur. non enim dominabitur nobis antiquus error, vt relin­quamus viuentem, & adoremus ea, quae ab ipso facta sunt. hée [Page 168] saith, that neither Helias, nor Iohn, nor Tecla, nor any saint is to be adored, forasmuch as this sauoreth of the olde idolatry of the Gentiles, and in so doing we should abandon the liuing God, and adore creatures made by him. and againe, Sit in honore Maria, saith he, pater, & filius, & spiritus sanctus adoretur. Ma­riam nemo adoret, non dico mulierum, sed ne (que) virûm. that is, let the virgine Mary be had in reuerence, but the Father, the Sonne, and Holy Ghost is only to be adored. but as for the vir­gine Mary, let neither man, nor woman adore her. Likewise S. Augustine sheweth, that the worship of Christian religion consisted not in the seruice or worship of dead men, or their re­liques. Non sit nobis religio, saith De vera re­ligione. c. 55. he, cultus hominum mor­tuorum, quia si piè vixerunt non sic habentur, vt tales quaerant honores, sed illum à nobis coli volunt, quo illuminante laetantur meriti sui nos esse consortes. honorandi sunt ergo propter imi­tationem, non autem adorandi propter religionem. He saieth, that saints are to be reuerenced in regard, they are examples to be followed, and not to be adored for religion sake. In his booke also De moribus ecclesiae cathol. c. 34. he reprooueth those, that worship the tombes of men departed. Bellarm. lib. 2. De cultu imaginum. lib. 11. alledgeth the 36. chapter of this booke, where there are not so many in the whole▪ in his 44. epistle ad Ma­ximum, he sheweth, that in his time dead men were not yet wor­shipped. Scias à Christianis catholicis, saith he, quorum in ve­stro oppido etiam ecclesia constituta est, nullum coli mortuo­rum, nihil deni (que) vt numen adorari, quod sit factum, & condi­tum à Deo. he signifieth, that religious worship is not due to any creature.

argument 30 Arg. 30. Neither doe the fathers onely testifie against the idolatry of papists, but diuers also of themselues doe confesse to the shame of the rest, that diuers points of popish doctrine sauour of idolatry, The second Nicene councell doth not allow any image to be made of the Godhead, nor that Christians should giue the worship of Latria to images. Christiani adorationem in spiritu & veritate saith that Act. 6. councell, imaginibus non exhi­buerunt, nec etiam diuinae crucis effigiei, nec etiam vnquam inuisibilis & incomprehensibilis naturae imaginem appararunt.

Diuers are of opinion, that not the image is to be worship­ped, but that which is represented by the image, as Durand. [Page 169] lib. 3. sent. dist. 9. q. 2. and Alphonsus à Castro in verb. ima­go. and that is also signified by these two verses Sabellici lib. 8. Aenead. 8.

Nam deus est, quod Imago docet, sed non deus ipsa.
Hanc videas, sed mente colas, quod cernis in ipsa.

The meaning of these verses is, that not the image it selfe, but that which is represented by it, is to be worshipped: which argueth the Romanists, that worship images, as well as things represented by images to be idolaters.

Durandus writing vpon the 3. booke of Lombardes senten­ces condemneth the images made in resemblance of God. with him consenteth also Abulensis in chap. 4. Deuteronomij, Martin Perez de tradit. part. 3. c. de imaginibus.

Lib. 4. hist. belli Gallici. Diuers doctors of Sorbona, as Salignac, Boutelier, Claude Espence, Picherel, together with Monluc bishop of valence doe wish the images of the Trinity taken out of all places. with them also doth Hessels agrée in explicat. 1. praecept. c. 65. and Ambrose Catharine in his commentary on the 10. commande­ments, and diuers others. Bellarmine himselfe finally, asha­med percase of their ouerlashing, that taught, that the image was to be worshipped with the same honor, that is due to the thing represented, will not yeld, that images are to be worship­ped with Latria properly. non est dicendum saith he, imagi­nes vllas adorari debere Latria, sed è contrario non debere sic adorari. and he proueth his assertion by diuers reasons lib. 2. de imaginibus. c. 22. of which it followeth, that Thomas Aquinas, and all his followers, and infinit papists, that teach contrary and doe worship images with Latria, are idolaters, and that by the confession of a Cardinall idolater.

They are also conuinced to be idolaters by diuers reasons drawen from the nature of idolatry, from the excellencie of Gods diuine nature, and termes of his law. and argument 31 Arg. 31. first for that they giue to creatures the worship, that is due vnto God. neither will the papists deny this argument to follow. but they percase will deny, that they giue diuine worship to crea­tures. Let vs therefore see whether they giue diuine honor to creatures, and examine also what their doctrine is in that point. first then it is apparent, that they call vpon the crosse and say, auge pijs iustitiam. and to the virgine Mary, funda [Page 170] nos in pace, solue vincla reis. but to increase iustice in vs, and to pacify our consciences, terrified with the horror of our sinnes, and to forgiue sinnes, belongeth to God onely. Bonauenture in his blasphemous psalter applieth that to the virgine Mary, which the spirit of God meaneth of God onely. Secondly the friers in their sermons say to the crucifixe, tu nos redemisti, tu nos patri tuo reconciliasti: that is, thou hast redeemed vs, thou hast reconciled vs to thy father. and this Bellarmine Lib. 2. de ima­ginibus. c. 23. confesseth. but this is the office of Christ Iesus. thirdly they make vowes to saints, and angels, and confesse their sinnes to them, and put their trust in them. but vowes are to be made to none, but to God only: and he it is, and none else that knoweth the inward of our hart. on him also we are to call in all our distresses, and to trust in him. fourthly they honour the sacrament, as their lord and god. finally they burne in­cense and offer their praiers to saints. they say masses also and build churches in honor of creatures. Their doctrine is also consonant to this their practise. for first they teach, that the same honor, that is due to the originall is to be giuen also to images, and by good consequent, that we are to worship the images of God the Father, the Sonne and the Holy Ghost, yea and wooden crosses also with Latria and like worship, as we giue to God himselfe. and this is proued by the testimo­ny of Alexander Ales 3. p. q. 3. art. vlt. by Thomas Aquinas 3. part. q. 25. art 3. Caietan writing vpon that question and ar­ticle, Bonauenture, Marsilius, Almayn, and others writing vp­on the third booke of sentences dist. 9. and this Bellarmine him­selfe lib. 2. de imaginibus c. 20. confesseth to be so. they doe al­so in their rubricks of the masse teach their priests to adore the consecrate host & chalice, and to burne incense before their images. but it cannot be denied, but that images are crea­tures. for they are made by the hands of smiths, carpenters and other workemen the sacrament also is a creature. for they say in their missal, qui haec omnia semper bona creas, spea­king of the sacrament. Neither doe I thinke, that Robert Parsons will deny, that a crosse is a creature, séeing his puta­tiue father the blacke smith was able to make crosses, as ma­ny as he would. are they not then idolaters, which worship creatures with diuine worships.

argument 32 Arg. 32. Secondly those are idolaters, that worship grauen ima­ges contrarie to Gods commandement. and that appeareth by the saying of better catholikes then the papists. let them be confounded, that worship grauen images, said Ruffin. hist. lib. 1. c. 35. Christians in times past. but papists worship grauen images, and it cannot be denied, that they doe it contrary to Gods commandement, bowing downe to them, and giuing latriam to diuers ima­ges, as before is shewed, and putting confidence in angels and saints, and seruing them with religious honor: matters plainly idolatrous and impious.

argument 33 Argu. 33. Thirdly whosoeuer worshippeth false images is a wor­shipper of idoles. for as Homil. 8. in Exod. Origen saith, idolum est quod reprae­sentat speciem, quam oculus nō vidit, sed ipse sibi animus fingit, that is, that representeth things, which the eie hath not seene, but which our owne imagination hath deuised. Quaest. 38. in Exod. Theodoret likewise saith, that an idole representeth nothing, that subsi­steth. and Bellarmine confesseth, quod idolum est falsa simili­tudo, id est, quod repraesentat id, quod reuera non est. that is, Lib. 2. de ima­ginib. c. 5. that an idole is a false resemblance, and that, which represen­teth a thing, that indeed is not. how truely, we will not héere dispute but if it be true; then must the papists necessarily con­fesse themselues to be idolaters. for they worship the image of the Trinity, which, séeing the Godhead cannot be represented, must needs be a false resemblance. they worship also the image of the crosse, in different formes, so that all of them cannot re­semble the true crosse. they worship angels in bodily shapes with wings, such as no papists euer saw with their eie. they worship saint Catharine, and saint Christopher in the forme of a giant. but they are not able to prooue, that euer there was such a man, or such a woman. finally the shapes of their saints are one vnlike to another, some being of one colour, some of another, some being of one proportion, some of another. and Christ Iesus they worship in the forme somtime of a man, som­time of a childe, sometime of a lambe: which figure is nothing like to Christ.

argument 34 Arg. 34. It is also idolatry, to worship a mans owne conceits and fancies, and not to yéeld to trueth, albeit neuer so manifest­ly shewed. sculptile & conflatile reor saith In Abacus. 2. Hierome, dog­mata esse peruersa, quae ab his, quibus facta sunt adorantur. [Page 172] but neuer did any sect more stifly defend their errors, then pa­pists. for they holde the popes sentence to be infallible. neither will they abandone any of his errors, though neuer so plainly demonstrated.

argument 35 Arg. 35. Neither can they excuse themselues, that C. satis dist. 96. call the pope their god, and worship him, with more strange worship, then that which Peter refused Act. 10. the canonists woonder at his excellency, In proaem. Clement. saying, papa stupor mundi, non deus, non homo, sed vtrunque. that is, the pope is the wonderment of the world, not god, not man, but both. for so saith Mosconius in his booke de maiestate ecclesiae lib. 1. part. 1. c. 1. in the councell of Late­ran one called Leo the tenth his sauiour. But Hierome in his Commentaries vpon the third of Daniel estéemeth them to be idolaters, that giue such worship to earthly princes.

argument 36 Arg. 36. Furthermore God is a spirit; and therefore he will bée worshipped, not in externall images, but in spirit. he is a iea­lous God: and therefore admitteth no copartners in his wor­ship. he is so one God, that he will admit no other creature to haue any part of his worship giuen to him, according to the law of God: thou shalt haue no other gods but me. and al this is signified to teach vs, how much God detesteth idolatrie. but the papists worship God, as they say, in his image. they giue diuine worship to stockes, stones, and to the sacrament. they make vowes to saints, and angels, and call vpon them. they put their trust as much in saints, as euer the Gentiles did in Hercules, Aesculapius, Apollo, and other idoles. they haue transformed the Psalmes vttered in praise of God, to the praise of our lady. how then can they excuse themselues from idolatry?

argument 37 Arg. 37. Finally, the law of God condemneth all images, and si­militudes of things both in heauen aboue, and in the earth beneath, and in the waters vnder the earth, that are worship­ped. the same also Rom. 1. reprooueth those, that change the glory of the incorruptible God, into the likenesse of an image of a cor­ruptible man: and that offer incense, or spirituall sacrifices vnto any but God. and all this tendeth to the abolishing of idolatry. but the papists worship the likenesses, and images of God, and change his glory into the shape of a corruptible man. they offer also to creatures their praiers, and vowes. [Page 173] manifest therefore it is, that in diuers points they are guiltie of grosse idolatry.

Neither can they by any meanes excuse themselues. if they say they doe not worship the image Per se & pro­priè. for it selfe, and properly with that worship, that is due to the originall, as Lib. 2. de ima­ginib. c. 24. Bellarmine teacheth; the heathen could alledge so much for themselues. for they did not worship the image, as they worshipped their gods themselues, nor did they sacrifice to the wood and stone, but to the things represented.

If they alledge, that they doe not worship images, as gods, as Ibid. c. 5. & de eccles. triumph. lib. 2. c. 24. Bellarmine and Gregory de Valentia doe oftentimes, thinking by that meanes to shift off the blot of idolatrie from themselues, and the church of Rome; yet will not that serue. for the very heathen could say, that they tooke not their idoles for gods. non ipsa inquiunt, timemus, saith Instit. diuin. lib. 2. c. 2. Lactantius, spea­king of the excuse of idolaters, sed eos, ad quorum imaginem ficta, & quorum nominibus consecrata sunt. that is, we doe not feare or worship images, say the heathen idolaters, but those after whose likenesse they were made, and to whose names they were consecrated. likewise saint Augustine in Psal. 113. shew­eth, that the heathen were woont to say, that they did not wor­ship that, which was visible, but onely the inuisible diuinitie, that was represented and manifested in the image. non hoc vi­sibile colo, sed numen, quod illic inuisibiliter habitat. and a­gaine, they said, nec simulachrum, nec daemonium colo, sed per effigiem corporalem eius rei signum intueor, quam colere debeo. doe you not then plainly see, that the idolaters spoke like the papists? for they say also, we worship not images with latria properly, nor doe we worship diuels, but by bo­dily shapes we are brought to sée, and remember the things, which we ought to worship.

If they deny that they worship creatures, and change the trueth of God into a lie, saint Augustine will tell them, In Psal. 113. conc. 2. that while they call their images by the names of the things repre­sented (as for example, when they say to the crucifixe, thou hast redeemed me, and call the images or pictures our lady, or S. Peter, or Paule) they change the trueth of God into a lie. effi­gies à fabro factas, saith saint Augustine, appellando nomini­bus earum rerum, quas fabricauit deus, transmutant verita­tem [Page 174] dei in mendacium.

If Lib. 2. de ima­ginib. c. 10. Bellarmine alledge, that images are not only profitable, as reporting matter of story, but also effectuall to enflame vs to the loue of God, and imitation of holy men, and diuers o­ther vses; he must be told, that Augustine teacheth vs farre otherwise. ducit & affectu quodam infirmo rapit infirma cor­da mortalium formae similitudo saith In Psal. 113. conc. 2. Augustine, & mem­brorum imitata compago: he saith againe, that the outward forme of things doth bring foorth, sordidissimum erroris af­fectum, a most filthy affection to error. he saith also, that images doe effectually peruert vnhappy soules. plus valent simula­chra saith he, ad curuandam infaelicem animam, quod os ha­bent, &c.

If they say, that their images are no idoles, because they are representations of true things, and not false representations, as doeth Bellarmine, lib. 2. de imaginib. c. 5. saying, quod ido­lum est falsa similitudo; it may be answered, that the Gen­tiles might answer so likewise: and yet say nothing to pur­pose. for the image of Romulus, of the sonne, of Hercules, and Aesculapius were true representations; and yet idoles, for that they were worshipped by idolaters. why then should we not iudge the like of the images, of Peter, and of our ladie?

If they say, that idolaters are condemned, because they put their trust in their idoles and images, as the conuenticle of Trent Sess. 25. saith, and hopeth thereby to put away the infamie of idolatry from the Romish church, it may be replied, that the Gentiles did neuer trust more in their god Iupiter, and Iuno, and Fortuna, or in their idoles, then the papists doe in our lady, in saint Denis, saint Iames, and in the images of our lady of Loreto, of the crosse, and such like.

If they say, that the image of Christ is to be worshipped with the honour due to Christ improperly, as Bellarmine teacheth, lib. 2. de imaginib. c. 23. It may be replied, that the Gentiles were neuer so stupid, as to say, that properly as much honor is due to the image, as to the originall. Finally, if you méet with any of Bellarmines opinion, lib. de imaginibus, c. 6. that thought Xenaias to be the first, that found fault with the worship of ima­ges; you may boldely reproue him by the testimony of Lactan­tius, [Page 175] Hierome, Epiphanius, Augustine and other fathers before cited.

Vnlesse therefore Robert Parsons and his consorts can well answere our arguments, and fortifie their owne simple excu­ses, shifts and distinctions; it will appeare both by testimony of scriptures and fathers, and also by diuers good arguments, that the papists are idolaters. nay it will appeare they can no better answere for themselues, then the heathen idolaters in ancient time. is it not then maruell, that such grosse idola­try should créepe in among Christians? it is so certes. but much more is it to be maruelled that so grosse an abuse being detected, should either be defended, or tolerated.

CHAP. VI. That such papists, as within the compasse of her maiesties reigne, haue bene executed to death, haue died for treason, and other capitall crimes, and not for religion. and there­fore are to be detested as malefactors, and not honored as martyrs.

HItherto we haue discoursed of matters of reli­gion. and I hope so, as it may appeare to eue­ry man, not altogether either irreligious, or possessed with preiudice, that the papists are neither true catholicks, nor good Christians. I haue therein also discouered not only the va­nity of Parsons his pleading in his Ward-word, that taketh that as granted, which is the principall question, but also the simplicity of this wooden Oulyglasses dealing, that not daring to answere our arguments, doth notwithstanding still in his exceptions vsurpe the name of Catholicks & Catholicke religi­on, as due to himselfe and his consorts, being nothing lesse, then either catholicke, or Christian. now therefore, to fill vp this discourse, it followeth, that we consider a litle the ou [...]ward ciuill cariage of this faction, and what we are to thinke either of those, that heretofore haue broken their necks in the Popes seruice, or else yet continue well affected toward his cause. and generally, what all true subiects are to looke for either at their hands, or the hands of their partakers, and adherents, and [Page 176] this, for that Robert Parsons in the first chapter, or incounter of his Ward-word doubteth not most impudently to affirme, that many honorable and worshipfull gentlemen haue indured con­tinuall, and intolerable affliction for perseuering in their fa­thers faith, and that aboue a hundred priests haue bene tortu­red, hanged, and quartered for the same cause. the same man also in the conclusion of his encounters doth insinuat, that albe­it they were charged with treason, yet they died as martyrs. Allen likewise that perfidious traitor to his prince and coun­try in his Ad p [...]rsequu­tores Anglos. treatise against the execution of iustice, doone vpon diuers priests and friers, and their adherents, taken in noto­rious treasons, doth exclaime against the state, and charge our gouernors with persecution, iniustice, tyranny and extreme cruelty. as for his clients, he beareth vs in hand, that they were cleare of treason, and without all iust cause died for matter of religion and conscience onely, and not for treason or practi­ses against the state: and concludeth, that therefore they are to be esteemed as holy martyrs, and not as leud traitors. the de­tector also in his disiointed exceptions is talking of crosses and persecutions, where he and most of his consorts liue at ease, and in all security in good houses, and haue laisure to write, and opportunity to print such pamphlets and idle toies, as that, which he hath of late published.

argument 1 First then I say, that albeit late lawes gaue occasion to de­tect the Popes agents, that of late haue bene executed to death in England; yet they deserued death as offending in cases of treason both so adiudged by the ancient lawes of this land, and also for the most part by the lawes of all nations. for first it is treason to stirre vp forrain enemies against the prince, or state. the statute of 25. Edward the 3. c. 2. doth so account it, condemning all of treason, that shall goe about to leuy warre a­gainst the kings and queenes of this land. Likewise it was ad­iudged by the Romane lawes. Maiestatis crimine tenetur, saith Vlpian ad legem Iuliam maiest. l. 1. cujus opera, consilio, dolo malo consilium initum fuerit &c. quo quis contra remp. arma ferat. The same course is now taken in Spaine with such as attempt to leuie warre against the king, either within or without the realme, as is apparent by the booke called El fuero real. Tit. de la guarda del rey. those also that counsell, or abet [Page 177] such as attempt any such matter, are by that law condemned as traitors. Neither is the practise of France diuers from o­ther nations in this point. Finally, no Romane may so much as once attempt to raise warre against the pope, albeit he hold nothing, but by vsurpation, but the popes sergeants and offi­cers seize vpon him, as a traitor. neither will any pretence or allegation of conscience serue to excuse his treason, or to exempt him from punishment. But such agents of the pope as haue beene executed hitherto in England for his cause, either haue themselues béene persuaders of the pope, and Spanish king, and others, to make warre vpon her Maiesty, and their coun­trey, or els haue ioined with Englefield, Allen, Parsons, Holt, Owen, Morgan and other principall moouers and stirrers for an inuasion, and were directed by them, and sent into England and other places for that purpose. and this may be proued first by the Bull of Pius Quintus procured at the instance of diuers English fugitiues, and by them sent abroad into England, and sent into the king of Spaines countrey, as a motiue for him to inuade England, and as it were a trumpet, that sounded fire and sword against vs. secondly, all the practises and exercises of the seditious seminaries in the Low-countreys, Spaine, and Rome, haue tended to the stirring vp of forren nations against vs, as is confessed by diuers priests, and testified by scholars, and may be prooued by some notes of their exercises, which we haue to shew. Thirdly, Sixtus Quintus, anno 1588. in his sen­tence declaratory, or rather declamatory, against the Quéene, doeth say, that at the earnest solicitation of certeine principall English men, which he calleth catholikes, he had proceeded a­gainst her Maiesty, and had enioyned the Spanish king to exe­cute his Bull of excommunication and deposition against her, and to come with great forces against England. fourthly, Allen in his traitorous letters to the nobility and people of England and Ireland, doeth confesse, that the pope and Spaniard were solicited by himselfe and diuers other English men, to inuade this land. and this is also knowen by the negotiation of Engle­field, Parsons, and other English, both with the Spanish king, and also with other princes to this purpose. fiftly, Parsons to draw on the king of Spaine to enterprise this warre, told him, that his name being Philip Norway, he could not chuse but [Page 178] haue good successe. his reason was, for that our countrey had a prophecie, that betwixt Bostons Bay, and the pile of Foudray should be seene the blacke nauy of Norway. which, as he per­swaded the king, should returne victorious. The same man also in a letter to a certeine noble man of Scotland declareth, that he had béene with most princes in Europe, to moue inua­sions and warres against vs. sixtly, the emperor that now is, vpon their informations hath professed himselfe our enemie; and set out diuers prolamations against our nation, by means whereof our merchants in his dominions haue susteined great losses. seuenthly, Allen and diuers fugitiue English, were bu­sie anno Domini 1586. and 1587. with the duke of Guise, and other Frenchmen, to induce them to concurre with the Pope and Spaniards in the warre against England. The English papists at that time in a certeine treatise called, Vn aduertisse­ment des catholiques Anglois aux catholiques Francois; doe endeuor to stirre them vp against vs, charging them with this slacknesse, and imputing their euill successe thereunto.

Le crime d'endurer Iesabel ta voisine, say they;
Plonger an sang Chrestien, te destruit peu a peu.

They confesse also, that themselues are scorned of all nations for suffering an hereticall Queene (as these hereticall traitors call her) to reigne. An eight argument to prooue this point, may be drawen from the infamous libels, set out against our nation, partly by Parsons, and Creswell, and partly by Wor­thington, Gifford, & other fugitiues, tending to no other end, than to stirre the whole world to take armes vp against vs. finally, the practise of D. Story with the duke of Alua, the orati­on of Allen made to Gregory the 13. Sanders his negotiation with the same pope, Parsons his running vp and downe these twentie yeeres and vpward, from nation to nation, the agen­cies of Holt and other Iesuites and priests with the duke of Parma, the plots taken about Crighton a Iesuite concerning the inuasion of England, and the clamours of English fugitiues from time to time in the eares of all Christian princes, and now lately the attempt of D. Juan d' Aquila in Ireland, onely set forward by English and Irish priests and fugitiues against her Maiesty, doe all plainly declare, that these fugitiues from time to time haue bene the firebrands, to set their owne natiue [Page 179] countrey on a flame, if any would haue hearkened to their pro­mises. and this point, albeit the same touch not all that haue béene executed, or are yet aliue in England of the popes facti­on, principally; yet it toucheth either all, or most of them, as being a betters, counsellers, scholars, slaues, or companions of these principall stirrers, all of them comming from Allen and Parsons, and other principall agents in this businesse. and so cléere it is that English fugitiues were the principall motiues of the inuasion anno 1588. and of D. Juan d' Aquila his at­tempt, that the Spaniards impute most of their euill successe to their lies, and false informations of our weaknesse; and it is said, that diuers of them begin to be hatefull to most Spani­ards for this cause.

argument 2 Secondly, it is treason to stirre vp sedition or rebellion a­gainst the prince or state, or to concurre with those, that goe a­bout to mooue rebellion, or stir vp sedition. The words of the Romane lawes are cleere. Maiestatis crimine, L. 1. ff. ad l. Iulian maie­statis. saith Vlpian, tenetur is, cuius consilio doloue malo, factum est, vt armati ho­mines cum telis, lapidibusue in vrbe sint, conueniántue, aduer­sus remp. locá (que) occupantur vel templa, quóue coetus, conuen­túsue fiant, hominés (que); ad seditionem connocentur. He is guilty of treason, saith Vlpian, by whose counsell, or cunning procure­ment, armed men with weapons come together against the state, and sease places of aduantage, or that causeth metings and and assemblies to raise vp sedition. By this law those are also condemned, qui milites solicitauerint, concitaueríntue, quo seditio tumultúsue aduersus rempub. fiat. that is, which shall solicite, or cause souldiers to mutine or reuolt, or stirre a­gainst the state; as for example the traitour Allen did with Sir W. Stanley and the souldiers of Deuenter. Likewise, by the statute of the 25. Edward the 3. c. 2. those are adiuged traitors, that shall take armes against their prince or countrey, either within the realme or without. in which case also are all rebels and seditions persons, that shall rebell against their go­uernors, or that shall be aiding or consenting thereunto. And in the Spanish lawes del fuero real, tit. de la guarda del rey, it is enacted, that none be so hardy by word, deed, or aduice, to oppose himselfe against the king, or his state, or to make an in­surrection or practise of rebellion against him, or his kingdom, [Page 180] either within the realme or without. Que ninguno no sea osado por fecho, ni per dicho, ni por conseio de yr contra el rey, ni contra su sennorio, ni hazer alleuamiento, ni bollicio contra el, ni contra seu reyno en su tierra, ni fuera su tierra. This is also law both in France, Germany, and all countreys. neither will the pope suffer any of his dominions, notwithstanding that hée holdeth them by vsurpation, and without lawfull title, to con­sult against him, or mutinously to stirre vp such, as liue vnder him to rebellion, but he presently chastiseth them as traitours. Innocent the seuenth who succéeded Boniface the ninth, that not yet three hundred yéeres agone first vsurped the temporall gouernment of Rome, as In lib. de schism. Theodoricke a Niem and other Paulus Lan­gius in Chronic. Citizensi. stories testifie, caused diuers citizens most cruelly to be mur­dered, albeit they did but againe redemand the authority, that was committed to the popes in trust. Platina he maketh men­tion of this murder writing of Innocent the seuenth, though concealing the true cause, he saieth, they were executed for se­dition. Vndecim ciues, saith Platina, reip. suae labenti in neg­ligentia pontificis consulturi, statim necantur, è fenestrísque deijciuntur, quod diceret eo modo tolli seditiones. If then a pretence of sedition be cause sufficient for the Pope to pro­céed against his subiects, with what face can he, or his adhe­rents blame her Maiestie, if shee doe chastice her mutinous, seditions and rebellious subiects? shall it not be lawfull for her, and for this state to doe that which all princes and states doe practise, and take to be most lawfull? Theodorick. Niem lib. 2. de schismae. 36. Vrbane the sixth vpon pretence of a conspiracy against himselfe, put diuers of his cardinals to death, and proceeded with all rigour against such, as were but a little suspected of practising against him. neither did his aduersarie Clement vse a milder course a­gainst such, as were taken practising against his faction. Iouio in vita de Leon. 10. Leo the tenth spared not Cardinall Petrucci, but put him to death most cruelly for vttering some words tending to the al­teration of the state of Siena, although that city was no part of his dominions, but onely recommended vnto him. finally Clement the fift by the aide of the French king abolished the whole order of the Templars. and of late the whole order of the Humiliati was suppressed and dissolued, and diuers of them executed to death for a practise against the state of the [Page 181] Romish church. and shall the Romish church and her agents be suffered without punnishment to practise against this state? or can any reasonable or indifferent man iustly finde fault with the execution of such persons, as haue bene taken practi­sing? the very aduersaries, I thinke, albeit very bold, yet will not be so impudent to affirme it. for hetherto their pleading hath bene, that the massepriests and other Romanists are cleare from such practises. Let vs sée therefore, whether they speake truly, or no. and albeit we should greatly wrong the state, if we should dispute this point, as a matter doubtfull; yet let vs, I say briefely touch it for satisfaction of the ignorant, especially such as are strangers, and vnacquainted with the triall of such priests, friers and other the popes agents, as haue bene executed in England, as offending in cases of treason.

I say then, that no one priest, Iesuit, or other papist in En­gland hath beene executed for treason, but he hath bene found guilty of practising against her Maiestie and the state, or at the least aiding, and assisting, and intertaining of such practisers, and seditious persons: and that diuers of them haue either stood armed against the state in open rebellion, or else ioined with the rebells, and assisted them to their vttermost power, and meanes. and this appeareth first by faculties granted to Thomas Harding about the yeere 1567. for the reconcilia­tion of the people to the pope, and for the disturning of them from their obedience to the Prince. for whatsoeuer the pre­tence was, the end was sedition and rebellion, he being ap­pointed for nothing else, but to be a forerunner of that fil­thy friers Impius Quintus his excommunication against the Queene. secondly it is proued by the rebellion in the north anno 1569. which was stirred vp by one Nicholas Morton, and other seditious priests. thirdly by the rebellion and trea­son of the duke of Norfolke stirred vp by the pope as appea­reth by the report of Hierome Catena, in the life of Pius Quin­tus. fourthly by the erection of two seminaries of treason, the one erected at Doway anno 1569. and another at Rome anno 1579. or thereabout which were receptacles of such scattered and lost priests, as had bene in rebellion, and open schooles to teach treason to malcontent papists. fiftly by the rebellion of the earle of Desmond in Ireland raised by the solicitation of [Page 182] Sanders the popes legat, and set forward by diuers seditious priests, and friers, and other malcontents. sixthly by the fa­culties of Parsons and Campian and their companions, which came to make a way for the execution of the Popes bull. seuenthly by the iudgement of Sanders and Bristow, who com­mend these rebels, and put them into the catalogue of mar­tyrs. Sanders in his 7. booke of his visible monarchy saith, that the purpose of the earles of Westmerland and Northum­berland and their followers in the northren rebellion was to bee praised, albeit they had no succcesse. nobilium illorum laudanda erant consilia. he doth also call the rebellion pium institutum, & fidei confessionem, that is, a godly and deuout resolution, and a plaine confession of the Romish faith. nei­ther doeth hée esteeme of them, that were executed for that rebellion otherwise, then of holy martyrs. Bristow likewise in his fiftéenth motiue, putteth the earle of Northumber­land, the two Nortons, and two massing priestes called Woodhouse and Plomptree, and others, that were execu­ted, as principall actors in that rebellion, in the catalogue of martyrs. for now the pope doeth account rebellion for his cause good religion, and celebrateth the memory of traitors for martyrs. an eight argument is ministred vnto vs by the most scandalous and traitorous libell set out by Allen, and printed not without the helpe of Parsons, they say, and other English traitors; wherein they by all the meanes, they can deuise, doe exhort her Maiesties subiects in England and Ireland to take armes against her, to seaze vpon her person, and to deliuer her into the hands of her enemies. they endeuour also to per­swade them to forsake their allegeance, and to ioine with for­reine enemies. The 9. argument may be drawne from the practise of Charles Paget with the earle of Northumberland, anno domini 1583. that by all meanes solicited him to reuolt, and to ioine with the French against the State. The 10. is ministred vnto vs by the treacherous plot of Parsons and Hes­ket, to draw in Ferdinand the late earle of Darby, into action. The 11. is grounded vpon the insurrection of Tyrone, and the rest of that rascall rout stirred vp by Monford a priest yet lur­king in England, and diuers other seditious agents of the pope. The last is that dangerous attempt of the late earle of [Page 183] Essexe, which maketh my heart to bléed in respect of some pri­uate causes, as oft as I remember it, and moueth many to woonder, that he should be made an instrument by these fire­brands of sedition, to set vp that religion, which I thinke he neuer loued. and my arguments are prooued good, for that no one of those, that haue béene executed for the popes cause, can be named, but either he was an agent in some of these practi­ses, or allowed them, or were priuy vnto them. nay, I doe be­léeue, that if the question were asked of any Iesuit, or Iesuited priest, or any of their adherents, he would not disallow the popes act, or the acts of his agents in stirring vp rebellion in England, and Ireland, especially for matter of religion. what others would doe I know not. but hitherto we finde, that they speake honorably of Card. Allen, as of their foster father. yet was he the most notorious and seditious traitor, that euer this land bred, Robert Parsons onely excepted. that Parsons and Campian knew of a rebellion, or change intended, it is apparent by their petition to the pope, wherein they doe onely prouide for their consorts, rebus sic stantibus, that is, so long as the state of things did continue in termes, as then it stood. a certeine Quod lib. 9. art. 10. secular priest affirmeth, that no papist, (which he falsly calleth catholike) ought to send his children into seminaries abroad. and his reason is good. for that their heads be filled with trecheries, and aequiuocations, dissimula­tion, hypocrisie, and all falshood. sufficient witnesses and con­fessions of diuers, that haue forsaken those nestes of treason, declare, that the youthes there are mainteined for no other end, then to mooue sedition in England; and we may well thinke, that neither the pope, nor Spaniard would be at the cost they are for their maintenance, vnlesse they hoped by their agencie to be recompenced againe ten fold. whatsoeuer their intent was; certeine it is, that in the seminaries nothing is more commonly talked of, then how to set vp a partie against the state, how to trouble her Maiestie, or some such like mat­ter. and albeit the gouernours doe not acquaint the schollars with particulars; yet when any mischiefe is intended against vs, then the schollars are willed to say Pater noster, or aue Maria, for furthering of some good intention, as they call it, of the Rector of the colledge, finally whatsoeuer the priests say, [Page 184] or sweare concerning practises of rebellion; yet vnlesse they will forsweare the pope, they must néeds be rebels, and stirre vp rebellion, as oft as he listeth. for the Pius the fift his Bull. pope doth excom­municate al those, that will not rise vp in armes against her Ma­iestie. and who knoweth not, that they will rather venture to breake their necks, then loose their soules, that they suppose to depend on the popes curses. this argument therfore followeth necessarily. if a true papist, then is he a false hearted subiect. for otherwise the pope by his bull hath excommunicated him, as well as all other subiects: and the same shall vndoubtedly be in force ere it belong, if these good fellowes be not tied shor­ter, or if the calues of such bulles be not surely kept vp.

argument 3 Thirdly it is treason to attempt against the life and person of the prince, and euer hath béene so accounted by lawes of all nations. among the Romanes it was so hainous, that the of­fender being dead, yet the offence was enquired of, and puni­shed by confiscation of his goods. meminisse oportebit, saith Cod. ad legem. Iuliā maiesta­tis. l. meminisse. Paulus the lawier, si quid contra imperatoris maiestatem commissum dicatur, etiam post rei mortem id crimen instau­rari solere. by the ancient lawes of England it hath alwaies béene adiudged high treason, to compasse, or imagine the death of the kings or Queenes of this realme, as appeareth by the old statute of the 25. of Edward the third, c. 2. it is likewise so iudged by the lawes of Spaine, reported in a booke called Fuero real. tit. de la guarda del rey. in France it is déemed the highest and chiefest point of high treason, to attempt against the life of the prince. Bodin in his second booke de la republi­que c. 5. reporteth, how a certeine gentleman in his confes­sion to a priest declaring, that once he had an intention to kill the king, albeit he neuer did attempt to doe it, and was then most sorie, that euer he did thinke vpon such a matter, was notwithstanding executed to death for his very imagina­tion. Peter Barriere was likewise executed at Melun, for that being perswaded by one Varade a Iesuite and others, that it was an act meritorious to kill the king that now reigneth, he did conceiue in his minde a resolution to doe it. neither did a­ny papist thinke, that he had any wrong in it. Ghineard like­wise a Iesuite was hanged in Paris for declaring by writing that it was lawfull to kill kings excommunicate by the pope, and [Page 185] for oppugning their title. for the same cause also, and for that they sauored of this trecherous doctrine, and were not vnac­quainted with the assassinate of Chastell, that ment to haue murdred k. Henry the fourth, that now reigneth in France, all the Iesuits were expulsed by an arrest of parliament out of France, albeit the same is not so throughly executed, as were to be wished. Vrbane the 6. with exquisite torments killed all, that were any way to be suspected for conspiring a­gainst him. Iohn the 22. caused the bishop of Cahors to be skinned aliue, and to be slaine with great torments vpon su­spicion of a conspiracy made against him. omnibus cruciati­bus, saith In Iohn 23. Platina, coegit vitam cum morte commutare, quod in Pontificem coniurasset. In Alexan­dro 6. Alexander the sixth vsed to put men to death most cruelly for euery word spoken a­gainst him, as Onuphrius testifieth. and this is the resolution of all lawiers. they commit treason saith Socinus the yoonger, lib. 3. consil. 105. which make a practise against the person of their lord and prince. and with him agréeth Alciat consil. 456. they are also guilty of the same crime, which doe consult or practise against the state of the prince or common-wealth, as saith Baldus consil. 58. & seq. lib. 1. and Alexander consil. 13. lib. 6. and Iason consil. 86. lib. 3.

Let vs then sée whether those Iesuits and priests, that ei­ther haue béene executed for treason; or else are yet aliue, and to be executed, if they repent not, and flie to the Quéenes mer­cy, be not guilty of this point of treason also and whether their adherents and supporters may not iustly be touched for supporting them. first it is apparent, that Pius the fift in his execrable bull against her Maiestie, doeth excommunicate all such, as will not take armes for the execution of his sentence, and the actuall deposing of the Quéene. but neither can any such thing be executed without violence offered to her person, nor may we imagine, that the masse priests and their consorts were sent for any other purpose into England, then for the ex­ecution of the bull. Lib. de schism. Theodorike a Niem speaking of a like sentence of a pope denounced against a king of his time doeth signifie, that such sentences are not executed without many calamities, and great troubles▪ secondly the earles of Westmer­land and Northumberland and their adherents the rebels [Page 186] anno 1569. did not entend other matter, than the destruction of her Maiesties person. as many therefore as either were actors in that rebellion, or els approoued the same, as did Sanders in his booke of his pretended visible monarchy, and all Iesuits and Iesuited papists doe very boldely, are guilty in this point of treason. Bristow in his Motiues doth no other­wise account of those, that were executed for this rebellion, then of holy martyrs. neither can any priest or papist not­withstanding all their pretenses mislike that rebellion, vnlesse in opinion they contradict Bellarmine and other Romish doc­tors, and absolutely condemne the popes sentence, that hath so oftentimes bene published: which I doubt whether any will doe or no. In Ireland certes we doe not finde any priest, that is not consorted with the rebells, and that publickely doth not defend their cause. how is it then possible, that either they should draw their swords against her Maiestie, or allow them that do it, and not be guilty of attempting against her person? Thirdly Holt the Iesuit, Worthington, and other priests per­swaded first a certeine Irish man called Patricke Collen, & af­terward one Yorke & Williams to murder her Maiestie. and this the secular priests in Holt & his consorts in a certeine trea­tise intitled important considerations, Pag. 33. doe confesse to be true. they do also Ibidem. cōfesse, that Edmund Squire was drawen by the perswasion of Walpoole a Iesuite to a like vilanous attempt against her Maiesties owne person. Parsons in his Ward­word likewise confesseth, that he was acquainted with the re­solution of a certaine gentelman, as he calleth him, that came ouer to kill the Queene. neither néed we to make any questi­on, but that diuers priests, and Iesuits, and others either One Bifley a priest con­fessed, that it was lawfull to kill the Queene, be­ing excom­municate by the pope, and denied not, that he him­selfe would doe the act, if he could. his confessi­on is extant to be seene. al­lowed or were acquainted with the most execrable treasons of Parry, Sauage, Lopez, Squire, Babington, and such like vnna­turall monsters, that attempted and intended most cruelly to murder, empoison, and destroy their liege Souereigne. the rest they are scholars and agents of the pope, and his wicked con­sistory, and of Parsons and other Iesuits and traitorous priests, and combined with them, and therefore guiltie as farre, as the others in this point of treason.

Allen in his wicked letters, to the nobilitie and people of England and Ireland, declareth, that there were diuers English [Page 197] priests in the Spanish army, ready to serue euery mans spirituall necessitie by confession, counsell, and all consolation in Christ Iesus, and the same is confessed also in diuers treatises set out by secular priests. but how could they be in the army of pub­like enemies, and not attempt against her Maiesties person, if occasion serued? or how can any allow or like of such fellowes or such attempts, that wish not the destruction of her Maiesty? fourthly, cardinall Allen in his most slandrous libel directed to the nobility and people of England and Ireland, doth by all his best retoricke endeuour to perswade all papists, to take armes against her Maiesty, to lay hands on her, and to deliuer her into the hands of her enemies. but what priest or papist in Eng­land did not much depend on him while he liued? nay, most of them were his scholars, and the rest conuersed with him, and receiued diuers letters and instructions from him. fiftly, it is confessed, that diuers priests now in England were either in the Spanish army, or in their ships, or appointed to follow the army anno 1588. and that diuers others were put aboord the Adelantadoes ships, that came for Falmouth anno 1597. and 1598. If then they came with forren enemies, and were in their troupes, it is no question, but they meant to attempt a­gainst her Maiesties person. it is also apparent, that all their receiters and abetters, and such also, as allow their act, and this opinion, are likewise guiltie of this point of treason. Fi­nally, in a certeine house, where Dauid Engleby a traitourous priest was taken, these They are to be seene in the memorials of the councell of Yorke. resolutions were also found, that it is lawfull for papists to take armes against the Queene. and fur­ther, that they might doe with her person, whatsoeuer pleased them. they also resolue in flat termes, that it is lawfull to kill the Queene. but say the priests, as matters now stand, it is best not so much, as once to speake of that matter. so then all, that are not blinde, may sée the malice of this generation. and no question, but their followers in their superstitious opinions would not be farre behinde them in their leud and trecherous actions, if occasion were offered. neither can they otherwise do, when the pope, vpon whom they build their faith, doth Bulla Pij 5. aduersus Eli­zabetham. ex­communicate all, that will not fight against the Queene.

argument 4 Fourthly, it is treason, in danger of forren inuasion, or el [...] in the midst of the battell, to forsake the prince, or not to defend [Page 188] or mainteine his right. Li [...]ij lib. 1. decad. 1. Metius Suffetius standing aloofe, when Romulus encountred the enemy, was seased vpon as a traitor, and drawen in pieces with horses. By the lawes of fees, hée that forsaketh his lord in the battell, Lib 2. de feu­dis. de caufis be­nefic. amit­tendi. as a traitor, is depriued of his lands. qui dominum suum, saith the law, cum quo ad prae­lium iuerit, in acie periclitantem dimiserit, beneficio se indig­num indicauit. Likewise, it is adiudged treason, not to declare any harme intended against our lord. By the common lawes of England also, and lawes of nations, it hath béene alwaies ac­counted treason, not only to oppugne the right of the king, but also being required, not to acknowledge it. Suppose then all priests and papists were not actors either in op [...]n rebellions, or in attempts made by forren enemies; yet all of them deny­ing the Quéenes authority, being excommunicat by the pope, and that refuse to acknowledge her lawfull title, or to take her part against the pope, who is now become an enemy, and an inuader consorted with the Spaniard, are notorious traitors. But this is the case of the best of those, that haue died for the popes cause. Campian and his consorts being demanded, whe­ther they tooke the Queene to be lawfull Queene, notwithstan­ding the popes sentence of excommunication: and likewise, whether Sanders and Bristow, that mainteined the popes au­thoritie, and the Queenes deposition to be lawfull, was sound or not, refused to answere directly, and neither would they ac­knowledge her Maiesty to be their lawfull Queene, nor pro­mise to take her part if occasion serued, nor would they con­demne the popes fact, nor disallow the traitorous doctrine of Sanders and Bristow. and I do beléeue, if our recusants in Eng­land were put to the question, they would either accord with the priests, or make very doubtfull answeres. for, the Queenes authority in ecclesiasticall causes, they vtterly condemne, and from the pope, that is our enemy, and hath displaied his ban­ner i [...] open field against her Maiesty, they will not be drawen. Sherwin, and some others did so answere, as euery man might iudge, that they meane to the vttermost of their power, to de­fend the popes cause, and to oppugne her Maiesties authority. In Ireland we finde, that papists are the men, that vphold the rebellion, and that serue her Maiesty very coldly, though some­time enterteined in her seruice. Were it then nothing els but [Page 189] this, that the masse priests and their adherents refuse to ac­knowledge her Maiesties title, and to serue her against forren enemies; yet is that sufficient, to shew them to be traitors, & most vnwoorthy to possesse land and office, that will not serue her Maiestie, by whose fauour and clemency, they enioy their lands and offices, against the Spaniard, or other forren ene­my, that séeketh to depriue both vs, and them percase of lands, liuing and life. It may be, that some papists will not beléeue this to be true of the masse priests, and their adherents. but if they list to read and sée, what the secular priests confesse in their treatise of important considerations, they will change their opinions.

argument 5 Howsoeuer they iudge of this point, yet they will not deny, that it is treason to adhere to forren enemies. In the statute of 25. of Edward the third, chap. 2. those that adhere to the kings enemies, are adiudged traitors. By the El fuero real. tit. de la guar­da del rey. lawes of Spaine likewise it is made treason, to ioine with the enemie, and to yeeld him succour, or helpe by any meanes. and the like we may gather out of the Roman lawes ad legem Iuliam maiesta­tis. l. 1. Finally, reason may teach vs, that they can not be our friends, that adhere to our enemies, and ioine with them. but the masse priests, and all, that haue dealt hitherto in the popes, and Spaniards cause, haue adhered to forren foes, and to the publike and professed enemies of her Maiesty and this state. for first it is apparent, that the Pope and Spaniard are pub­like enemies of the prince & state. Hostes ij sunt, saith ff. de verbo­rum signific. l. hostes. Pom­ponius, qui nobis, aut quibus nos publicè bellum decreuimus. that is, they are publike enemies, either which make warres on vs, or vpon whom we make warres. The Gréeks, of the word [...], that signifieth warre, doe call enemies [...]. which sheweth them to be enemies properly, that make warres vp­on vs. But the Pope and Spaniard, from the yéere 1569. haue not ceased to make warres against the English nation. Pope Pius the fift hauing a determination to recouer his au­thority in England, and that rather by the sword, than as Pe­ter did gaine men, by the word, stirred vp Philip king of Spaine to ioine with him against our nation. both of them sent money to aide the Northren rebels, anno 1569. and were determined to haue sent an army into England, vnder the conduct of the [Page 190] duke of Alua, had not the practise of the rebels béene discouered, and had not the rebellion béene suppressed before the succors came to them. Manolessa. The Pope also afterward set vp the duke of Norfolke, and sent him mony, and encouraged him with great promises to execute his sentence. and both these points are prooued, not onely by the testimony of the letters of Pius Quin­tus, as they are recorded by him, that set out the report of his life, but also by the testimony of the secular priests in their trea­tise called important considerations. About the yeere 1578. Stukelcy was by the Pope furnished with money and souldi­ers to make some enterprise in Ireland, and had done some­what, if Gods iudgements had not turned him into Barbarie, where he made his end correspondent to his life. That string being broken, Sanders was sent, as agent for the Pope to raise a rebellion in Ireland. and not long after, the Pope sent cer­teine forces into the same countrey, that openly Let Parsons shew that euer S. Peter did the like. displaied his banners against her Maiestie, and the English nation. Anno 1588. both the Spaniards and Popes fléet came with fire and sword against England. The duke of Parma likewise prouided great land forces against vs in the Low-countreys. An. 1597. & 1598. the Adelantado of Spaine set foorth twise or thrise from Corona, with an intention to descend in the port of Fal­mouth, and to take that countrey. And lately Don Juan d'A­quila was sent with diuers regiments for the conquest of Ire­land. Likewise we for our defence haue since made some at­tempts against the Spaniard in Spaine, in the Indiaes, and in the Low-countreys. And most of these matters are publikely knowen, and can not be denied by the aduersarses themselues. The secular priests confesse most of these things in their trea­tise of important considerations. It can not therefore be deni­ed, but that both the Pope, and the Spaniard are publike ene­mies of her Maiestie and the state. The like may be said of Henry the 2. the French king, during the warres in Scotland, in the beginning of her Maiesties reigne, and of the duke of Guise, the duke of Alua, the prince of Parma, and others, that at seuerall times haue done hostile acts against her Maiesty, and the English nation.

Likewise it is a thing very manifest, that all our masse-priests, and their partakers and consorts haue adhered to the [Page 191] king of Spaine, to the pope, and to other forren enemies. Vpon the first comming of the Quéene to the crowne, diuers fled to the French king, who pretending a right to the crowne of England for his daughter in law the Quéene of Scots, pro­claimed her in Paris Queene of England, and Ireland, not without the consent of some traitorous English, as it séemeth. Mortua Maria, saith De schi [...]. li. 3. Sanders, Henricus Galliarum rex &c. nurum suam Scotorum reginam Henrici octaui proneptim pa­risijs pro concione Angliae & Hiberniae reginam declarandam curauit. he sent also forces into Scotland to second his claime. which no man may surmise he would haue done, but that he was promised a party in England. that the seminaries of Doway and Rome, adhere to the pope and Spaniard, it can­not be denied. for of them they haue their maintenance, and when the priests of the seminaries are déepely rooted in the grounds of vnnaturall disloialty and treason abroad, they come with commission and meanes from them two, home in­to England. thirdly, Sanders was sent by the pope as his le­gat into Ireland, and both he and his consorts, that were sent vpon that businesse, were furnished with meanes from the pope, and did wholly depend vpon him, and on the king of Spaine. fourthly it appeareth, that the priests held the pope for the chiefe lord, and did not so much as vouchsafe to call Elizabeth the Queene of England their Quéene. petatur à summo domino nostro, say Parsons and Campian in their fa­culties, explicatio bullae declaratoriae contra Elizabetham, & ei adhaerentes. let vs beseech say they, our most high lord the pope, to make an exposition of the bull against Elizaberh, and all that adhere vnto her. so it appeareth, that they declare themselues opposite to the Quéene, and all her true subiects, and that they adhere to the pope. it may out of that facultie al­so be gathered, that all papists adhere to the pope, for that these two prouide for them onely, and exclude all the Quéenes subiects. for the papists, whom those two traitors call catho­likes, desire, that the popes bull may binde the Queene and her subiects alwaies, but not the papists, while matters stand in termes as now they doe, but then onely when the bull may be put in execution. so it appeareth by the facultie granted to Par­sons and Campian, that papists are a faction adhering to the [Page 192] pope, & resoluing to execute his bull assoone, as they shalbe able. fiftly it cannot be denied, but that such priests as came with the Spanish forces by sea or land, either ann. 1588. or ann. 1597. or at any other time, or that came with the popes or spanish for­ces into Ireland, doe adhere to forrein enemies. but of this sort there are diuers, as may be prooued by the secular priests confessions, in seuerall treatises, and by the libell of cardinall Allen, that Italienated traitor, and alienated fugitiue, that signifieth so much. Parsons also is charged to haue thrust di­uers English priests aboord the Adelantadoes ships, being more then halfe forced to come against their country. neither doe the rest of the priests and their adherents cease to conuerse with these secret traitors, and to interteine them, and to hide them. sixtly Deschism. l. 3. Sanders doeth testifie, that the schollars of the seminary at Doway are protected and maintained by king Phi­lip. the same king also caused other seminaries of English schollars to be erected in Spaine: which no man doubteth, but they adhere to the Spanish king. so likewise the Romish se­minaries and their schollars adhere to the pope. for they take an oth and sweare to the pope, and those of Spaine to the Spa­niard, as is testified by Nauarrus consil. lib. 3. de regular. con­sil. 1. and Ribadineira de schism. part. 3. c. 21. seuenthly those that sweare to mainteine the Infantaes title to the crowne of England set downe by Robart Parsons a notorious traitor to the crowne of England, must néeds adhere to the Spaniard. but that is the case of all the English priests, that are now vnder the Iesuits gouernment, as appeareth by the testimonie of di­uers treatises set out by the secular priests against the Ie­suites, and by Charles Pagets booke against Parsons. the mat­ter also is very euident and notorious to all that know the or­ders of the English seminaries of traitors fostered in Spaine. 8. the Iesuits and their schollars are linked to the pope and spaniard; to the pope swearing to goe, whether he will send them; to the Spaniard for his liberality toward them, and for that he is ready alwaies to execute their trecherous deui­ses. 9. diuers fugitiue English are the Spaniards, and popes pentioners and sworne seruants. 10. the archpriest and his adherents, as they are enemies of the state, and therefore hide their heads: so are they dependents on the pope and Spani­ard, [Page 123] and professe themselues their clients. finally you shall hardly finde either masse-priest, or sound papist, that will re­nounce the pope, and take an oth to serue the Quéene either against the pope or Spaniard. and if any do so, they performe their seruice very slackly. which if any doe endeuour to excuse, because they take the pope to be Peters successor, and the Spa­niard to séeke nothing but to establish popish religion in Eng­land; they shew themselues to be ignorant both of religion, and matters of state. for Peters successors (of which number the pope is none) haue a commission onely to féed Christes shéepe, and not to cut their throtes. Important considerati­ons. p. 25. and the Spanish generall anno 1588. said openly, that if he once came into England both catholikes and heretikes should be one to him; so he might make way for his master. and his reason was, for that his sword could not discerne betweene them. wherefore as the pope and Spaniard are professed enemies to her Maiestie and this state, so all that adhere vnto them, or fauour them, and de­pend vpon them, are traitors to their prince and coun­trey.

argument 6 It is also treason to send letters to enemies or rebells, or to helpe them with aduise, counsell, or intelligence. Maiesta­tis crimine tenetur saith L. 1. ff. ad l. Iuliam maic­statis. Vlpian, qui hostibus populi Rom. nuntium literásue miserit, signúmue dederit, feceritúe dolo ma­lo, quo hostes populi Rom. consilio inuentur aduersus remp. the same is also adiudged treason both by Spanish, French, and the Popes lawes, as English traitors, if they should be taken writing, or aduising the enemies to the Pope, or Spa­niard, or french king, should well know. but the archpriest and his adherents both send letters, and giue aduise to the Pope and Spaniard, the best they can. they doe also write to Irish and English rebels. neither is there any almost of the Iesuited faction, but he writeth to Parsons a notorious traitor; and Allen, while he liued, was made acquainted by these fel­lowes, of whatsoeuer passed in England either publickely or priuatly.

argument 7 Neither can any subiect cleare himselfe of treason, that shall receiue letters or directions from forrain enemies, as both lawes ciuill and martiall doe teach vs. in what case then is the archpriest Blackewell and his assistants, and whole faction, [Page 194] that continually receiue letters, directions, briefs and other instructions from forrain enemies? and if these fellowes be so farre engaged in treason; then are they not cleare, that shall hide them, and conceale them, and maintaine them.

argument 8 By the common lawes of England it is treason, not onely to take the crowne from the king or Quéene, but also to séeke to dispossesse the right heire, of his right, or to translate the crowne to such, as haue no right. it is also a great wrong offe­red to the lawes and state, to endeuour by supposed titles to defeat the intent of the law, and to ouerthrow the fundamen­tall lawes of states. is it not then to be wondred, that no grea­ter poursuit is made after Robert Parsons, and the priests, that come out of the seminaries of Rome and Spaine, who either by oth, or promise stand ingaged to promote, I know not, whe­ther I should call it, a title or a dreame of Parsons concerning a title by him cast vpon the Infanta of Spaine to the crowne of England? The Prooued by the treatises of secular priests. same man also not long since offered the crowne to the duke of Parma, and others. neither wanteth he a number to consort with him; especially of those, that fauour the spaniard.

argument 9 Neither is it lesse then treason, to forsake a mans country, and contrary to the princes lawes, and commaundement to runne to forrein enemies. Paulus the lawyer doth ac­count of such no otherwise, then as of enemies. Qui malo consilio saith L. post limini­um. §. transfu­gae. ff. de Captiu. & postli [...]. he, & proditoris animo patriam dereliquit, hosti­um numero habendus est. neither do I suppose, that either the Pope, or Spaniard, or any prince in the world doth otherwise account of their rinegued fugitiues, thē of traitors: which may in part also appeare by the seuerity of the punnishment by law inflicted vpon such persons. transfugae ad hostes, saith the L. si quis. §. transfugae. ff. de paenis. law, aut viui exurantur, aut furca suspendantur. by this law it appea­reth, that our rinegued english Iesuits, and priests haue great fauour, that hitherto haue escaped the penalty of the law, that adiudgeth men in their cases woorthy of such grieuous pun­nishment. and certes, séeing our aduersaries thinke it lawfull to burne men for transgressing the vaine traditions of men, as for example for reading of an english testament, for eating flesh in lent and such like; they cannot say, but such as seeke the destruction of their country, and runne to forrain enemies [Page 195] deserue with all seuerity to be punnished. that our masse-priests haue forsaken their countrey to flie to the enemies, it cannot be denied. nay in the cases of conscience resolued by Allen and Parsons cap. 1. cas. 1. & cap. 3. they are taught by prety equiuocations, to deny their country.

argument 10 The Roman lawes adiudge him a traitor. which fraudu­lently enforceth a man to to take an oth, to doe an act against the state. L. cuiusque ff. ad l. Iuliam maiest. cuius dolo malo saith Sceuola, iureiurando quis ad­actus est, quo aduersus remp. faciat. likewise L. quisquis. c. ad legem Iuli­am maiestatis. Arcadius and Honorius pronounce him a traitor, qui scelestam cum militibus vel priuatis, vel barbaris inierit factionem, aut factionis eius sa­cramentum susceperit, vel dederit. that is, which shall enter into a wicked faction with soldiers, with priuate men, or barba­rous nations or shall either giue or take an othe to maintaine that faction. the Romans did therefore call conspirators, Con­iuratos, because those, that entended treason against the state, did binde themselues one to another by an oth not onely to kéepe matters secret, but also to prosecute the intended treason with effect. If then the Iebusits, and seminary men take an oth to their superior of blinde obedience, as they call it; to the Pope, that they shall goe whether he will send them; to the Spaniard to serue him faithfully, to Robert Parsons to maintaine the title of the Infanta of Spaine; how can they ex­cuse themselues from treason in this point? if they deny, that they take such othe, not onely their owne conscience, but also the testimony of Nauarrus consil. lib. 3. de regularib. cons. 1. and Ribadineira lib. 3. de schism. c. 21. and the confession of diuers seculer priests, in diuers treatises published against the Iesuits, and their faction, will plainly conuince them.

argument 11 Likewise as in warre enemies are discerned from friends by the word, and some priuy note; so traitors in ciuill dissenti­on are knowen from true subiects by this, that those haue their words, and notes of faction, whereby one of them know­eth another. and as in warres those are taken for enemies, that cary the enemies signal; so in ciuill gouernment those are vndoubtedly traitors and enemies, that are marked with the priuy signes of traitors, and enemies. the papists there­fore, that carie about with them their agnus dei, their graines, their consecrated beades, and such other trash, and are shorne [Page 196] and greased for the popes shéepe, and Spanish seruants, are vndoubtedly by all reason to be taken for traitors. And if a­ny reply, that it is a ridiculous and strange law, that men should be reputed traitors for bringing in, or hauing the popes bulles, and an agnus dei, and blessed graines, medalles, and such toies; it may be answered, that not to haue these things simply is treason, but to haue them as markes of faction, and signes to discerne the heard of anthichrist from others. and that doe the papists well know. Allen also and Parsons in their hellish resolutions of cases of conscience, affirme, that such medalles, and graines binde men in deuotion to the popes see, which they call apostolike. haec grana & metalla benedicta say Resolut. c. 1. cas. 2. they, multum conferre possunt, ad afficiendos populos erga apostolicam sedem. againe to be shorne a priest, and grea­sed after the popish maner in it selfe is not so much treason, as superstition and false religion. but when it is knowen, that such greased goates are signed for the popes and Spaniards agents in England, to set forward the Spanish inuasion, or the Popes cause; he is very simple, that doeth not vn­derstand him to be a traitor, whose pole is shorne by the pope and his faction; and who carieth with him the marks of the Spanish faction.

argument 12 It is treason also to conspire the death and destruction of principall men about the prince, that are his principall agents in the gouernment of the state. and this is not only according to the lawes of England, but also according to the Romane lawes. L. quisquis, Cod. ad l. Iuliam maiestatis. Arcadius and Honorius pronounce them guiltie of treason, which shal by faction attempt to murder their principal counsellors or officers, and the reason is, for that they in do­ing iustice are but the princes lieutenants, and doe nothing but his commandement. in this point therefore the Iesuites and priests are no lesse guilty then in the rest. the pope he ex­communicateth not onely the Quéene, but all that doe adhere vnto her, and doe her seruice. being therefore to execute the popes bull, as calues begotten by the bull of Bashan the pope, the priests and Iesuites must néeds séeke first the destruction of these principall men, & then of the rest. furthermore we are giuen to vnderstand, that one principall point of Parsons and other Iesuites consultations is, how to procure certeine prin­cipall [Page 197] men to be either made away or disgraced. in the meane while being not able to doe worse, Parsons and Creswell vnder the title of Andreas Philopater, and others haue set out most vilanous libels against her Maiesties principall counsellers, officers, and agents.

argument 13 It is also treason to betray her Maiesties armie, or any part of her forces into her enemies hands, or for a captaine or soldier to yéeld vp any towne deliuered vnto him to kéepe. héerein therefore Stanley and Yorke and their followers shew­ed themselues to be notable traitors to deliuer vp Deuenter, and their soldiers into the Quéenes enemies hands. Allen al­so, and all his schollars and followers, that allowed that fact, shewed themselues to be traitors, in applauding to their dis­loialty and wickednesse.

argument 14 The latter Romane Extr. feud. c. qui sunt re­baelles. emperors doe declare them to be re­bels, and disloiall traitors, which either openly, or conuertly doe the works of rebels, or practise against the prosperity of the state. in this case therefore are they, that either oppugne, or deny the princes right, and title; or else aduance the right of forrain potentates, to dispose of the crowne: or els which prac­tise against the person of their soueraigne lord, as saith Socinus the yonger, lib. 3. consil. 105. and Alciat consil. 456. or that shall conspire against the state of the prince, or common welth, as may be proued by the testimony of Baldus consil. 58. & se­quent. and Alexander consil. 13. lib. 6. and Iason consil. 86. lib. 3. or that shall make peace, or contract friendship with the princes enemies, as saith Decius consil. 604. & 605. or final­ly that shall doe any act preiudiciall to the prince or state. es­pecially if they be subiects, and bound by their naturall allege­ance to the prince and state. all which points doe nearely touch Robert Parsons, Creswel, Walpoole, and other rectors and scholars of the english seminaries a broad, the archpriest Blackewell, his adherents and al massepriests, and pensioners of the Pope and Spaniard both abroad and at home, all that intertaine intelligence with traitors, and any way releiue them, and finally all factious malcontents, that are offended with the present state, or present gouernors, and practise or en­deuour to worke innouation in the gouernment. and as for Parsons, Creswel, Garnet, and other Iebusits, and cananites [Page 198] that are archplotters of treasons against the prince and state, there is no question to be made, but they are traitors. the In the epi­stle before the treatise of im­portant con­siderations. se­cular priests charge Parsons, Creswel, Garnet and Blackwell to be wicked members, and shew, that they haue sought to bring in forrain enemies into England, to the ouerthrow not onely of many noble families, but also of the whole state. The au­thor of the Quodlibets, quodlib. 8. art. 10. confesseth, that the English seminaries beyond the seas are greatly degenerated from their primitiue foundation, and that now the heads of the scholars are filled with treacheries, aequiuocations, dissimulati­on, hypocrisie and all kinde of falshood. and that now priests in their missions are bound to take an oth for the setting foorth the Spanish Infantaes title. but if he had said nothing thereof, yet we vnderstand, that the seminaries beyond the sea are nothing els, but dennes, wherein yoong traitors are fostered vp for the restoring of the popes tyranny, and the furthering of the Spa­nish inuasion. therein also for many yéeres no other consulta­tions haue béene more rife, than how to bring her Maiestie to destruction, or to raise a rebellion, or to worke some hurt to the state, or to some principall gouernors thereof. As for the arch­priest and his faction, wherein I comprehend the prouinciall Garnet and other viperous Iesuites, it is méere simplicitie, not to vnderstand, that they are still working against the prince and state, and haue wholly deuoted themselues bodie and soule to serue the Pope and Spaniard. To the pope they complaine, and from him they receiue not only authoritie and direction, but commissions also and faculties, & grants to sell li­cences for eating white meat, dispensations in diuers cases, and to traffike for beads, graines, and other such like merchan­dise of Babylon. O simple papists, that suffer your selues to be abused with these montebanks, charlatanes, impostors, and cousening merchants! O vnwise people, that prefer these toies and this most vaine trash, and other tricks of popish su­perstition, before true religion, before your allegiance to your prince, and your loue to your countrey, and, as if you were be­witched, run your selues headlong into danger for loue of those vaine toies to ioine with enemies, that hate your countrey, and care not a straw for you, if they may obteine their owne wicked purposes. All those likewise, that enterteine intelli­gence [Page 199] with Parsons and such like traitors, or with rebels, or ioine in any practise to further forren enemies, or to hurt the state, which are many abroad and at home, both priests and others, can not cleere themselues of treason. Finally, whosoe­uer is a true papist, and according to Bellarmines Lib. de eccle­sia militant. c. 2. definition liueth in subiection to the pope, must needs be a false traitor to her Maiestie, and this countrey, as the case now standeth. for if euery papist be bound to obey the popes sentence, and to hold them excommunicate, and deposed, whom the pope shall ex­communicate, and depose; as most papists teach, and none dare deny, that beléeueth the popes power and authoritie: then if the Pope haue excommunicated and deposed her Ma­iestie, they are bound to hold her excommunicate, and deposed, and to concurre with him and his wicked agents, as oft as he will command and charge them to make ready for the execu­tion of his sentence. Againe, if, as Allen a notorious traitor in the iustification of Stanley teacheth, euery papist in all warres, which may happen for religion, is bound in conscience to em­ploy his pe [...]son and forces by the popes direction, viz. how far, when, and where, either at home, or abroad he shalbe directed: then is euery papist bound to be a rebell, and traitor as oft as the pope pleaseth and commandeth. and this sequele the secu­lar priests also confesse in their Pag. 24. treatise of important conside­rations, to be good, and acknowledge, that this is Allens doc­trine. contrariwise, if so be a man do not regard the popes sen­tence, excommunication, and direction; then he is no papist, neither may he euer looke for the popes blessing.

argument 15 Finally, it is treason, not onely to practise against the prince and state, but also to abet, to mainteine, to aide, to relieue, or conceale such practisers and traitors. By the common lawes of England, all that are accessaries in cases of treason, are pu­nished as principals. likewise, the Romane lawes punished not only the principall actors in treason, and rebellion, but also their abetters, counsellers, and aiders, as lawyers teach in their commentaries in l. proximum. l. cuius (que). and l. maiesta­tis. ad l. Iuliam maiestatis. the same also may be gathered out of the text of the law. Finally, this is vsuall in all crimes, as both the L. 16. qui e­pem ff. de furto. & ibid. dd. ciuill, and 11. q 3. c. qui consentit. & extr. de homi­cidio. c. ficut dignum. canon lawes doe teach vs. but few pa­pists of any note can be found in England, but they haue either [Page 200] consulted with traitorous priests and Iesuites, or relieued them, or receited them, or had intelligence with them. let them therefore thanke God for the fauor, which this state bestoweth on them without all desert of theirs, and beware hereafter, that they send no reliefe to seminaries abroad, nor receit such trai­tors at home, nor haue any dealing with such, as are knowen to depend vpon forren enemies. The state hath had excéeding patience in their behalfe hitherto. but euen most patient per­sons by continuall prouocations may be vrged to change their course. Cicero de le­gibus lib. 3. Salus populi suprema lex est. the safetie of the state is a matter aboue all others to be regarded. L. lex. ff. de legibus. the law also with­out punishment of offenders is dead. Lex, saith Papinian, est delictorum quae sponte, vel ignorantia contrahuntur, coercitio. Ibidem. l. le­gis virtus. Modestinus teacheth vs, that the life, and efficacy of the law consisteth in commanding, forbidding, permitting, and puni­shing. take away execution and punishment; and you not only ouerthrow the law, but the state also.

Now if any offence deserue punishment; then sure, traitors may not thinke to escape, that séeke to dissolue both lawes, and state. Treason, saith Rerum Graec. lib. 2. Xenophon, is so much more dangerous, by how much it is more difficult, to take heed of traitors, than of enemies. with our enemies we may be reconciled. but trai­tors are neuer to be trusted. the offence being so great, many extraordinary courses are taken in the repressing of treasons. In hoc atrocissimo delicto, saith a certeine Clarus sen­tentiar. lib. 5. §. laesae maiest. lawyer, lex non­nulla specialia introduxit. and commonly such persons are most hatefull. I haue learned, saith In prometheo. Aeschylus, to hate traitors, neither is any villany more hatefull than treason. Traitors are common enemies to all men, that loue the state, or their liege Souereigne. Omnium communis est hostis, saith Lib. 1. accu­sat. in Verrem. Tully, qui hostis est suorum. Who then would not hate them, that wic­kedly consort themselues with the Pope and Spaniard a­gainst the state?

The prince hath principall reason to represse this faction. for she carieth not the sword for nothing. and if she should neg­lect the danger in regard of her owne particular, yet will shée not neglect their safetie, whose estate dependeth so much vpon the saftie of her person. further, she hath little cause giuen her to extend her clemency to this viperous generation and their [Page 201] adherents, that shew extreme malice in séeking the destruction of her kingdome by bringing in forren enemies. they haue al­so slandered her Maiesties noble father, herselfe, her friends, her seruants and the whole state, as appeareth by Sanders his booke of schisme, by Andreas Philopater, Didimus Veridicus, and diuers other infamous libels set out by Parsons, and other wicked Iesuites. Finally, no prince can endure such to haue the benefit of subiects, that will neither acknowledge his soue­reignty, nor submit themselues to lawes.

The ecclesiasticall state may not endure either Baals priests to set vp idolatry, or false teachers to broch false doctrine, and priuily to bring in superstition and heresie.

Her Maiesties councell assuredly will not winke at any practise or complot against their prince and country; but with all seuerity will procéede against the authors of them, and all their factious partakers.

The chiefe officers and nobility of the relme haue no reason to beare with them, which by alteration of state, séeke to de­priue them of their honors, and to dispose of their lands and goods at their pleasure. neither is it the part of a generous and noble english minde, to suffer themselues to be disgraced and ouerruled, if not tirannized by Parsons his councell of re­formation, by Italians and Spaniards, and the very scumme of all villany.

The reuerend iudges will neuer suffer such to escape vnpu­nished, as séeke the subuersion of iustice. neither may lawiers endure those, that goe about to ouerthrow their countrey lawes, and to bring in strange lawes, and to rule all by force and violence, as may appeare by Parsons trecherous plots, and his most infamous councell of reformation.

All true subiects, I suppose, will rather die, then suffer the tyranny of strangers. and therefore I néed not animate either her Maiestie, or the ecclesiasticall state, or her councell, or her chiefe agents, or her nobility or iudges, or the lawiers, or the rest of her subiects, to encounter and to resist the plots of these Iebusits and traiterous massepriests, that séeke for the esta­blishment of their massing ceremonies, and most wicked reli­gion, to bring in strangers, to cut their owne countrymens throtes, to abuse their wiues, and daughters, and finally to de­stroy [Page 202] this flourishing kingdome, and their owne most deare country. the safety of the common welth as all politicks know, and Arist. polit. lib. 3. c. 3. teach, is the common worke of all true citizens, and well minded subiects: and I doubt not, but as all men de­test such, as oppugne the state, so they will all ioine together and haue a vigilant eie to looke to their execrable plots enten­ded against the state.

Finally, reason and experience may teach the papists, that howsoeuer some of them hope to win by shuffling of matters of state; yet that most of them shall rather loose then winne. they may also see, that many haue lost their liues and liuings, that haue bene practisers in rebellion and treason. and for­rain aides doe commonly first oppresse those, that vse them: and finally forsake them. examples hereof they may sée in the rebellion of the north and of Ireland, if they be not blinde: and consider them they may, if they will be led with reason.

Wherefore I doubt not, but as all men may sée the treasons of priests, and Iesuits, and their adherents to be made mani­fest; so they shall shortly sée the execution of lawes against them. that such as haue bene executed for practising in the popes cause, are no martyrs, as papists giue out, it may easily be proued. for euen the aduersaries themselues will confesse, that traitors against the prince and state are no martyrs. vn­lesse therefore Parsons can cleare his consorts of those points of treason, which I haue declared and obiected, and shew, that they adhered not to forrain enemies, nor had intelligence with traitors, that sought the destructoon of the prince and state, nor offended in any other points of treason, before rehearsed; he must néeds confesse himselfe, and his consorts to be rather in state of treason, then martyrdome.

2 Secondly martyrs died in time past for the testimony of Christ Iesus. but such papists as haue bene executed in En­gland of late yeares, haue died for the maintenance of anti­christs tyranny, and packing with forren enemies, and matter of treason against the prince and state, and for other offences deseruing death. and this is manifestly proued by the endite­ments framed against them, by the depositions of witnesses, confessions of the parties, and the whole forme of their triall iudgement and execution. neither is it materiall, that some [Page 203] were accused for bringing in, or hauing of medalles, or graines, others for being made priests by the popes faction, others for reconciling men to the pope; which are points, as the papists say, of their popish religion. for albeit medalles and graines are not simply of themselues notes of treason; yet seeing the pope doeth vse them, as marks of his faction; it were simpli­city not to vnderstand, that such as vse them are of his adhe­rents. Againe, to be a priest simply in it selfe is no treason. but if priests, that are ordred by the popes faction take an oth of obedience to him, that is our enimie, and are bound to set foorth his cause for the regaining of England to his obedience; then to be made priest by the popes agents, is argument suf­ficient to prooue a man to be a traitor. likewise it is no treason simply to be addicted to the superstitions of the Romish church, no more then it is to be Sarracen or Turke; yet to bée reconciled to the Pope, and to receiue absolution from his a­gents, is treason, he being a professed enemie of the state, and vsing this reconciliation and colour of religion for a meanes to ouerthrow her Maiestie, and this kingdome, and to réesta­blish yet once againe his tiranny in England. finally to obey good bishops cannot be euill interpreted but to submit a mans selfe to the pope, that pretendeth to haue right to depose prin­ces, and to translate kingdomes from one to another at plea­sure (a matter repugnant to scriptures, to the practise of the apostles, and primitiue church, and as Sigebertus Gemblacen­sis testifieth speaking of Gregory the seuenth his time, a nota­rious and plaine condemned heresie) cannot but preiudice the right of a prince in enmity with the pope, & prooue flat treason.

3 Thirdly the true martyrs of Christ suffered for defence of the trueth wronfully; and therefore deserued the honour and title of martyrs, and very high commendation. that is thankes­woorthy saith saint 1. Pet. 2. Peter, if a man for conscience toward God endure griefe, suffring wrongfully. such were the martyrs of times past, who suffred death, because they would not deny the Lord Christ Iesus, nor sacrifice to idoles. but the popes martyrs suffer for practising with forren enemies, and die for the Popes pleasure, and desire nothing more then to set vp idolatry. for conscience they cannot say, they suffer, vnlesse the make treason against their prince and countrey a matter [Page 204] of conscience, and rule their conscience by the Popes will, and make no conscience of idolatry or blasphemie. neither can they say, they are punished wrongfully, being punished for their treasons, rebellions and packings against the state with forren enemies. whosoeuer therefore shall entitle and call these fellowes martyrs, he shall greatly wrong religion, and the state of martyrs, and much resemble the Donatistes, and other old heretikes. Saint Epist. 68. Augustine saith of the Dona­tists, viuebant vt latrones, honorabantur, vt martyres. Alex­ander also an heretike, of whom Lib. 5. eccles. Iust. c. 17. Eusebius maketh mention, liued as a thiefe, and died for his deserts, and yet by those of his sect was honored as a martyr. such martyrs also are those of the popish sect. for whatsoeuer reckoning their consorts make of them, they were punished iustly for their offences, and died for treason, rebellion, practising and packing with forren e­nemies.

4 Fourthly true martyrs are charitable, and die in charitie. for without charitie, furious and Iesuiticall zeale to promote the Popes cause auaileth nothing. if I giue my body to be bur­ned saith the 1. Cor. 13. apostle, and haue not loue, it profiteth me no­thing. now what charity, thinke you, had they, that were em­ploied by publike enemies to the hurt and destruction of their liege Lady, and most deare countrey? Charity saith the Ibid. apo­stle, is patient, gentle, humble. but these by force of armes sought to returne into their countrey, and like fierce lions en­deuor by conquest to subdue men to their opinions. anno 1588 their common talke was of sharing of lands and liuings. In Wisbich also all the stirres among the papists grew about su­periority, the Iesuits seeking to rule, the rest refusing to be ru­led by them. Parsons they say hath an old prophecy how Eng­land must be ruled by certeine men in long blacke gownes, and square caps, that is by Iesuites. and long he hath béene dreaming of a cardinals hat. yet none falleth to his share. in all the English colledges and seminaries the Iesuits by great stirres haue sought the gouernment. A discouery of Campian and his con­sorts. Cottam an English Iesuite being condemned to die, praid God, that he would send downe fire from heauen to consume all the people, that stood round about him to gaze on him. and this is the gentle­nesse and charitie of Iesuiticall martyrs. when Sixtus quintus [Page 205] told the Iesuites, that he wondred, that none of their order were canonized for saints; some of them answered, that they sought honors in the church triumphant, and not in the church militant. such triumphant martyrs are these of the popes and Iesuits calender.

5 Fiftly, true martyrs are men of a peaceable disposition, and no way desirous of tumults and troubles. Lib. 3. contr. parmen. si supra memoratos saith Optatus, videri martyres vultis, probate illos amasse pa­cem, in qua prima sunt fundamenta martyrij; aut dilexisse deo placitam vnitatem; aut habuisse cum fratribus vnitatem, sine qua nullum vel nomine potest, vel re esse martyrium. his words in effect amount to this, that none can be martyrs, vnlesse they they be studious of peace, and vnity. if then the papists neither agrée with vs, nor with themselues, and are giuen much to contention, and continually haue stirred vp warres, and hur­liburlies, in diuers countries, and haue like firebrands set most parts of Christendome on a flame, as appeareth by their actions in England, Scotland, France, Germany, Flanders, Suethland, and other places; why should such men dying ra­ther be accounted martyrs, then the contentious Donatists?

6 Sixtly the true martyrs of Christ Iesus died in time past for the true faith of Christ deliuered vnto vs in the apostles wri­tings. but the popish mastifs died for the popes excommunica­tions, & for defence of his most vniust and tirannicall vsurpati­ons, according to such doctrine, as they had receiued out of the popes decretales, & their masters dictates. who then doth not maruell, that any should be so bold, as to call such obstinat fel­lowes, that died out of the church, & for no point of faith were so much as once called in question, martyrs? cum deo manere non possunt saith Cyprian, qui esse in ecclesia dei vnanimes no­luerūt. ardeant licet flammis, & ignibus traditi, & obiecti bestiis animas suas ponant, nō erit illa fidei corona, sed poena perfidiae: occidi talis potest, coronari non potest. if then these good fel­lowes haue forsaken the church, and linked themselues with enemies and traitors, die they may for their treasons, but crowned they shall not be as martyrs. neither is it death, but ye cause, that maketh christians dying to be estéemed martyrs.

7 Seuently, no true martyr euer séemed more desirous of the applause and praise of men, then of the glory of God, & good of [Page 206] Christes people. fi ita martyrium fecerimus saith In epist. ad Galat. lib. 3. c. 5. Hierome, vt nostras velimus ab hominibus reliquias venerari, si opinionem vulgi sectantes intrepidi sanguinem fuderimus, & substantiam nostram vs (que) ad mendicitatem propriam dederimus; huic operi non tam praemium, quàm paena debetur, & perfidiae magis tor­menta sunt, quàm corona victoriae. his meaning is, that they cannot be martyrs that séeke the applause of the multitude, & for vain-glory die obstinate in their opinions. if then the popes agents in England sought nothing more, then their owne glo­ry & praise, and the applause of the pope, and cardinals, and the simple people adhering vnto them, it were but a simple imagi­nation, to suppose them to be martyrs. Christian martyrs cer­tes sought not their owne glory, nor the applause of men. nor did they solicite the inuasion of their countrey, and domesticall tumults, that they might reigne like yoong lords.

8 Eightly, it was not the fashion of martyrs, in ancient time, to renounce their kings and soueraigne princes, & to refuse to acknowledge their authority. for wel they knew, that the apo­stle had taught them obedience, & not rebellion, nor contuma­cious resisting against the princes power. omnis anima saith Rom. 13. he, potestatibus sublimioribus subdita sit. neither did the holie martyrs of Christs church set out most slanderous libels a­gainst men in authority, or allow any such course. finally we doe not read, that euer any godly martyr, did beare armes a­gainst lawfull princes, or go about to depose them, or murder them vpon bishops, or other mens commandement whatsoe­uer. Hieremy he had more authority then hath the pope. con­stitui te hodie super gentes, saith Hierem. 1. God vnto him, that is, I haue appointed thee ouer nations, and he had power to pull vp & to destroy. yet we read not, that he commanded any prince to be deposed or murdred. but Campian and his consorts, whom the papists notwithstanding celebrate & repute martyrs, did dis­claime her Maiesties authority, and adhered to the popes de­claration, as appeareth by their answers yet to be séene. all priests also, that come from Rome in their cases of conscience, which they will not deny, are taught to deny her Maiestie to bee their lawfull Queene. Robert Parsons Campians fel­low hath since his execution prooued a notorious libeller. both the pretended martyrs themselues haue set out slan­derous [Page 207] libels against their prince, and the state, and haue well liked of the slandrous and lying writings of Sanders, Harps­field, Ribadineira, Rishton, Parsons, Bristow, Creswell, & others. When the army of the Pope & Spaniard was ready to come for England anno 1588. then was Parsons, they say, very busie in printing pope Sixtus his scandalous declaration against her Maiestie, and Allens railing and scurrilous letters to the no­bility and people of England and Ireland. A In an an­swere to a li­bell set out by Parsons. friend of his also doth charge him, that his finger was both in the making, and dispersing that infamous libell. and yet the pretended popish martyrs would neither mislike the authors, nor these wicked libels, nor any thing els, that might worke disgrace either to her maiesty or the state. Finally, the earle of Northumberland, and the two Nortons, and diuers priests, whom Bristow in his Motiues, and Sanders in his books De visibili Monarchia, and diuers others do celebrate for martyrs, are in the Crowne of­fice and publike records registred for men of a far diuers qua­litie. Among these certes the earle of Northumberland and the Nortons were principall actors in the rebellion anno 1569. and diuers of the rest were spotted with other treasons. But per­case, it is a matter not vnusuall for the pope to put those in the Calender of martyrs, whom publike executioners register in their books for rebels and traitors. in which ranke, it may be, that Iames Clement, that murdered king Henry the third of France, and Ghineard the Iesuite, that allowed that murder, and was therefore executed, and Chastell, that assaulted Henry the fourth of France now reigning, shall sometime or other be entred, and be reputed as good saints, as the best.

9 No martyrs of Christ Iesus did euer suppose it a thing law­full, to breake their others of allegeame to their princes vpon a­ny excommunication, or other warrant of popes or bishops. In Chronic. & Auentin. annal. 7. Sigebertus Gemblacensis saith, it is a pernitious heresie to be­leeue, that the pope can discharge subiects from the bond of an oth, and from their allegeance. but the popes martyrs, or rather vnnaturall, and churlish mas [...]ifs, did not only take themselues to be discharged from their allegeance, and ioyned with forren enemies, but also perswaded as many as they could, to take armes against their prince and countrey.

10 In ancient records of ecclesiasticall stories we do not reade, [Page 208] that any martyr of Christ Iesus did euer denie his name, qua­litie, kindred, and prince, all together; nor that they vsed equi­uocations, and dissembled their faith; nor finally, that they went apparelled like spadassins, and ruffians. but these pre­tended popish martyrs doe not only all this, but also are resol­ued by Allen and Parsons, that it is lawfull so to do. The Resolut. quo­rundam casuum nationis Ang­licanae. c. 1. case being put, vtrum sacerdos possit habitum mutare, comam nu­trire, nomen, & patriam, & parentes negare; they answer thus: potest. nec videtur in ea re dubium. potest enim quis veritatem tacere, vel dissimulare. The same good fellowes determine also, quod dissimulatio est licita. that is, that dissimulation is law­full. and afterwards they say, it is pious to vse dissimulation, for that it is lawfull to lay ambuscadoes for enemies. so it appea­reth they take all their countreymen, that fauor the state, for enemies, and would take them in ambuscadoes, if they could. and this, if we looke not to it, they haue fully purposed, and re­solued, as may appeare by their resolued cases. Concerning the Queene, they say, shee is not lawfull. the more they to blame, that holde them for lawfull subiects. Regina haeretica, say Ibidem. they, non est legitimè regina. and againe, non gerit se vt reginam, sed exercet tyrannidem. Finally, the disciples of these traitors are taught to renounce their countrey, and to giue no respect to their parents, if they be not of the Romish religion.

11 It was not the fashion of Christian martyrs in times past to vse machiauelian tricks; nor to equiuocate in places of iudg­ment; nor to forswere themselues, being examined, and inter­rogated by their superiors. but the schoolemasters of our po­pish priests, and the popes calues, and designed popish mastifs doe enforme them, that they may doe both without any scru­ple of conscience. sciant say Ibidem. c. 3. cas. 3. they, se vti posse aequiuocationi­bus, & iurare sine peccato. Now by aequiuocations, they meane promises and othes made, not according to common and literall meaning, nor according to the vnderstanding of the iudge, but according to a certaine hidden meaning of the party. and by swearing they vnderstand false forswearing, ac­cording to our common vnderstanding. they Ibidem. teach also, that a priest is no more to regard an oth to the Queenes officers, then if he should sweare to pirates and robbers. are not these gallant fellowes then, trow you that suppose the Queenes [Page 209] iustices to be like pirates and robbers, and that pirates and robbers may as well spoile men by the high way, as they deale with priests according to her Maiesties lawes?

12 Finally no hereticks, nor miscreants can iustly be reputed martyrs, albeit they die for their false conceites, and opinions. the Donatists died desperatly; & so likewise did the hereticks called Euphemitae, which for the multitude of their supposed martyrs, would needs be called Epiphan. haeres. 80. Martyriani. yet did the church of god no otherwise account of them, then as of leud hereticks, and not as of martyrs, as appeareth by the testimony of Euse­bius, Epiphanius, Augustine, and other fathers. We read also in histories, that Turks, Tartares, & Mores oftentimes die most resolutely or rather desperatly for the blasphemous opinions of Mahomet, & that the Matth. Pa­ris. Assassins, that were a sect of desperate cutthrotes like to the Iebusits, that desperately would aduen­ture to dispatch whomsoeuer their generall commanded them to murder, suffered death most willingly and constantly. and this they accounted a speciall point of their bloody religion. yet it were mere madnesse to repute such fellowes martyrs. why then should the papists that haue broken their necks and died for the popes cause, & whom we haue clearely proued, to be hereticks, be accounted martyrs? nay why should rebels, traitors, and Assassins, such as Parrye, who by the Cardinall of Comoes letters, & the popes promises, was enduced to lay vio­lent hands on her Maiestie, & such like wicked men be named martyrs? if because they are put in the popes calender, it may be easily replied, that as at Rome they are put in the popes ca­lender, so at Newgate, & such places, they are put in the hang­mans calender. further it is Christs trueth, and not the popes faction, that maketh martyrs.

Those therefore, that died in the popes quarrell, are traitors, and not martyrs. and that will be the case also of all their consorts, if they passe that way, which I would haue not one­ly all Iesuits and massepriests to consider, but also all those, that like their humors, and opinions. neither is it materiall, that grace hath bene offered to some, that haue bene executed for treason, if they would haue renounced the pope, & his tre­cherous doctrine and faction. for that sheweth not, that the parties, to whom this grace was offered, were no traitors, [Page 210] but rather her Maiesties great clemency, that was willing to pardon all, of whom any hope might be conceiued, that they would become good subiects. so likewise if a man should offer pardon to an Assassin, it doth not proue that such as murder men vpon a leud conceit of wrong religion died as martyrs.

If then the papists be not the true church; I trust all true Christians will avoid them. if their doctrine be neither anci­ent, nor catholicke, I hope true catholicks will no longer suffer themselues to be abused by them. if they be hereticks; they will, I trust, for very shame forbeare to impute heresies to true Christians. if massepriests be idolaters; I hope religi­ous Christians will take order with them, as godly kings did with Baals priests. finally if massepriests and the popes a­gents haue so farre engaged themselues in treason; I hope all true subiects will learne to detest popery, not onely in regard, that it is a false religion, but also, because it is a packe of leud opinions borne out with all fraud, vileny and treason. which because it floweth from the forge of Antichristes authority and inuention; let vs beséech God, to reueale dayly more and more the man of sinne, that such as now are abused by him, may forsake him, and serue God in spirit and trueth ac­cording to his holy word. And thus much may serue for the declaration and iustification of my challenge. it resteth now, that I answere my aduer­saries exceptions and cauils.

An answere first vnto such excep­tions, as by a certaine namelesse, and worthlesse fellow are taken to the Challenge prece­dent: and next vnto the same parties most idle obseruations. Thereto also is added a briefe of certaine notorious falsifications and vntruthes of the Papists.

Chap. 1. An answere to Owlyglasses exceptions concerning thir­teene vntruthes, supposed to be contained in M. Sut­cliffes Cha [...]lenge.

Sect. 1.

The first supposed vn­truth cleared. IN 19. pages of my challenge, and all direct contrary to the doctrine of Papists, Owliglasse cannot find so much, as any occasion of cauill. In the 20. pag [...]rapi [...] numb. 10. in my former, and in the latter, cap. 4 numb. 43. bee taketh holde of this, that I say, That the Papists vse exorcismes, blowings, salt, spittle, halowed water, annoyntings, light, and diuers ceremo­nies, neither vsed by the Apostles, nor practised by the ancient Church. And this, sayth he, is an vntruth so ma­nifest, [Page 2] that Caluin doth confesse it. Owlyglasse talking of vn­truths in o­thers, himselfe vttereth two grosse vntruths in the first charge. But what if it be true? and what if Master Caluin do not confesse that, which I say, to bee vntruth? Is not Owlyglasse, where he goeth about to detect me of one vntruth, manifestly takē in a tray, and detected to haue vttered two vntruthes in one breath? he cannot, though he would, denie it. Well then, let vs see first, whether my wordes containe vntruth, and next, whether Caluin confesseth so much, or no.

Of my proposition there are two partes. First, I denie, that the Apostles vsed these ceremonies now in question: and secondly, I denie, that they were practised by the auncient Church of Christ Iesus. Now against the first part of my wordes, Owliglasse can obiect nothing, neither doth hee so much as touch it. But wēt he about to alledge any thing, yet the Hystorie of the Actes of the Apostles, and Christ his in­stitution would refute his allegations. For in neither of the two, are any such ceremonies to be found.

Agaynst the second part, he alledgeth Caluins wordes, Instit. lib. 4. ca. 15. art. 19, for exufflations, halowing of water, annoynting, and light: and for exorcismes in bap­tisme, he produceth Nazianzen. For salt hee quoteth the words of Origen. For spittle he citeth the wordes of Am­brose, and the name of Petrus Chrysologus. But neither doth Caluin, nor any of these fathers mention either the vse of the Apostles, or practise of the ancient Church, nor doth a­ny father speake of all these ceremonies together, nor can the practise of the Romish Church in the signes, and formes of these ceremonies be iustified by fathers, either to haue béene in the whole Church, or in any one singular Church, nor to come nearer to our aduersaries, can any one concludent ar­gument be drawne out of any of the Fathers agaynst that which I teach. Caluin sayth, He knoweth how an­cient the ceremonies of exufflation, Lib. 4. instit. ca. 15 num. 19 halowing of water, of annoynting, and lights is. Which if I should confesse, yet could not Owlyglasse conclude, that such ceremonies were vsed in the time of the fathers of the Church, nor that they [Page 3] were vsed in the forme, the Romanists vse them. Let him conclude if he list, and then he shall see his error. Further if he be obstinate, let him proue, that the fathers prayed in con­secrating light, In Missali in Sabbato sācto that diuelish fraud might be expulsed by it: and while they halowed water, that it might be effec­tuall to purge mens mindes: and that they coniured wa­ter, and salt, as the Romanists doe, praying ouer halowed water, Vt fiat aqua exorcizata ad effugandam omnem potestatem inimici: All which, I trust, he doth not beleeue that Caluin said, or thought to be ancient.

Nazianzen sayth onely, ne contemnas, De sancto baptism. or as our ad­uersaries translation hath: ne despuas exorcismi curatio­nem: that is, Despise not the helpe of exorcisme. But that is nothing to other ceremonies, about which wee con­tend: neither out of these wordes can it be proued, that exor­cismes were vsed in the act of baptisme, but rather other­wise, when by extraordinarie grace diuels were driuen out of the possessed.

Rehearsing the wordes of Origen, he doth curtall them. He reporteth them thus. Qui renascitur, debet sale sa­liri. Origens wordes stand thus: Oportet eum ergo, qui renascitur vtique in Christo renascentem rationabile, & sincerū lac desiderare, & prius quam rationabile. & sine dolo lac desideret, debet sale saliri, & pannorum inuo­lucris colligari, ne dicatur ad eum, sale non es salitus, & pannis non es inuolutus, Where I would pray the Arch­priest Blackwell to put on his spectacles, & see whether Ow­lyglasse hath not with his glasse eyes corrupted the place. Against me this place of Origē maketh nothing, for neither doth hee mention all the ceremonies which are in question, nor doth he speake one worde of the popish formes of exor­cismes, nor doth he speake, as it seemeth literally, of salting, but allegorically vnderstāding true beleeuing: Si credidero spiritui, qui in Apostolo loquutus est, sayth he, Sale con­dior. And if our aduersarie will needs vrge the litterall sense, then must he needes confesse, that men being baptized are to [Page 4] be lapped in clouts, and to dr [...]ke milke. For Origen spea­keth of all these things alike. Finally, it is a very ridiculous poynt to thinke, that euerie ceremonie spoken of by Origen, was vse [...] throughout the vniuersall Church.

De sacra­ment. lib. 1. cap. 1. Saint Ambrose sheweth, that the priest vsed to touch the eares, and nostrils of those that were baptized. At the least, he sayth so, vnder whose name the bookes of sa­craments, that are among S. Ambroses workes, do passe. But that is nothing to the purpose, vnlesse Owlyglasse will confesse, that whosoeuer doth touch his nose, doth spit in his face also: which were a wonderfull and archpresbyterall in­terpretation.

He sendeth vs also to Petrus Chrysologus. But if the man had saide any thing to the purpose, I doubt not, but hee would haue taken paines out of this golden fellow, to fetch golde him selfe: whereas now he deliuereth to his rea­der nothing but drosse.

Lib. 1. de Baptism. ca. 25 Neither is Bellarmine able to affoord Owliglasse any helpe in this case. For albeit he raketh into all authours good and bad: yet can he alledge no sufficient testimonie out of antiquitie for the formes and ceremonies vsed by the Popish Priests. Furthermore he cannot iustifie, that the rites of baptisme, that any one father speaketh of, were generally re­ceyued in all the Churches. Finally, the formes of celebra­ting baptisme described by Clemēt, Dionysius, Iustin Mar­tyr, Tertullian, Cyprian, Basil, and other fathers do declare that no such formes were in ancient [...]me vsed, as the rituall bookes now in practise in the Romish Church do prescribe. I haue therefore sufficiently discharged my selfe of the accusa­tion he would fasten vpon me.

Secondly, Caluin doth not affirme any thing contrarie to my wordes. For albeit he knew how ancient some of the ceremonies are, which I denie to be vsed in the first Chur­ches: yet doth he not expresse howe ancient they are, nor speake any thing of their seuerall formes, nor confesse any other thing contrarie to my assertion. To cōclude this point, [Page 5] the conuenticle of Trent affirmeth, Sess. 7, cap 13. that none of these Ce­remonies which wee speake of, can bee omitted without sinne. Which doctrine I hope Owlyglasse will not con­firme either out of the fathers, or out of Caluin. It is hee therefore, and not I, that hath committed this fault of lying, vnlesse he haue somewhat else to alledge for himselfe.

Cap. 1. Sect. 2. That it is not vntruth to say, that the doctrine of the Councell of Trent, that denounceth men accursed, that shall not hold baptisme to be necessarie to sal­uation, is not Catholike.

MY aduersarie doth also challenge me, Cap 2. pag. 12 because I affirme that the doctrine of the Councell of Trent, that denounceth men accursed, that shall not hold baptisme to bee necessarie to saluation, is not Catholike. And to iustifie his challenge, he alledgeth for himselfe, first S. Augustine, lib. 3. de Orig. a­nimae. c. 9. Secondly the wordes of our booke of Common prayer. And thirdly mine owne testimonie, where I speake of the paines of originall sin. And in the end he concludeth, that if the want of baptisme sendeth infants into hel fire, that it is necessary to saluatiō. But al this tedious discourse is farre from the purpose. For neither doth any father af­firme, that such are accursed, that hold not baptisme to be necessarie to saluation, which is the doctrine that I con­demne, as not Catholike, nor can any such thing be gathe­red out of the wordes of the Common prayer booke, or of any thing deliuered by mee. How then durst this vaine fellowe charge me with vntruth, being not able to alledge one argument to conuince mee, or any Catholike Fa­ther to speake agaynst mee, had hee not steeled his face, and dulled his vnderstanding, so that hee neyther sha­meth at any thing, nor well vnderstandeth what he wri­teth? Further this is contrarie to promise made in [Page 6] the beginning▪ for there hee promised, that he would put the Reader to no more labour, then to open the bookes and view the places that should bee alledged. And here hee argueth to his vttermost skill, and yet proueth no­thing.

But suppose I had indeede said, that all that die without baptisme are not damned, and had sayd that only, and not a [...]ded any thing concerning the curse of the conuenticle of Trent, as I did: yet I hope this will not be proued to bee any vntruth. For if Circumcision did resemble baptisme, why should all infants, especially borne of godly parents, ra­ther be damned dying before Baptisme, then such as dyed before Circumcision? Secondly I hope our aduersarie will not say, that the theefe which confessed Christ on the crosse, was damned, albeit he died without Baptisme. Nor is hée able to shew, that he was baptized, for that troubled Saint Augustine, Lib. 3. de Orig. animae. cap. 9. a man farre more learned then himselfe, and yet that could not resolue himselfe in this poynt. Thirdly Ambrose doubted not▪ but Valentinian was saued, albeit he dyed without Baptisme. De obitu Theodos [...]. Fourthly our aduersaries say, that there are three sortes of Baptismes, viz. Of water, of the holy Ghost, and of bloud: and Bellarmine confesseth that without Baptisme men may be saued, Lib. 1. de bap­tismo, cap. 6. marty [...]dome and the conuersion of the hart to God supplying the de­fect of Baptisme: and it is a common saying, that not the want, but the contempt of Baptisme doth damne those that depart this life without Baptisme. Finally the groūd of that opinion, that condemneth al dying without baptisme, is laid vpon these words: Nisi quis renatus fuerit ex aqua, & spiritu sancto, Iohn. 3. non potest int [...]oire in regnum Dei. And yet our Sauiour doth speake these wordes of Baptisme, no otherwise then he vttereth these wordes in the sixt of Iohn: Vnlesse ye eate the flesh of the Sonne of man, and d [...]inke his bloud, ye shall haue no life in you. If then no inter­preter, that expoundeth these wordes of the Lordes Sup­per, will thereupon conclude, that no man can bee saued [Page 7] vnlesse he receiue the Lordes Supper, then doe not the other words inferre necessitie of Baptisme. Vnto S. Augustines wordes, lib. 3. de anima, cap. 9. I answere, that hee spea­keth of such as die in originall sinne, and seeme to con­temne Baptisme. But diuerse may die without baptisme, and yet not contemne it. We say also in the administration of Baptisme, that none is saued, that is not regenerate. But it is impious to tie Gods grace vnto Sacraments We doe also speake of the ordinarie externall meanes, by which saluation is obtained. But we exclude not extraordinarie courses. I doe also confesse, that infants dying in originall sinne are damned to hell fire. But I hope no man will say, that all that die before Baptisme, albeit they much de­sired it, and beleeued in Christ Iesus, dyed in originall sinne. But sayth Owlyglasse, You say that children by Bap­tisme are receyued into the Arke of Christes Church. psal. 1 [...]. But he was simple to conclude thereof, that none is recey­ued into the Arke without Baptisme. He sayth also, that Lay men and women by the booke are permitted to Baptise: but he should remember that it is shame for him to speake vntruth, who taketh on him to controll others in that behalfe. He concludeth finally. Seeing the want of Baptisme doth send Infants to hell, that Baptisme is ne­cessarie to saluation. But his consequent is weake, and of no value. For many die for want of knowledge, and for want of small matters, and not onely of Baptisme. And yet God is not necessarily tyed to saue none, but such as are baptized. Sicke men also die for want of Physicke: and yet is not phy­sicke absolutely necessary. In this place therfore the detector wandreth out of the way, and yet effecteth nothing.

Sect. 3. That Catholikes vse not after the Popish maner to sepa­rate man & wife vpon occasion of monastical vowes.

HIs third accusation is grounded vpō these words: They holde, that by mutuall consent the ma­ried couple may depart asunder, and that it [Page 8] shall not be lawfull afterward to company together. A matter not onely strange in the catholike church, during the Apostles and their successors times, for many hun­dred yeares, but also contrary to Christes doctrine. For what man can separate them, whom God hath conioi­ned? but séeking to fasten an vntruth vpon me, he commit­teth a grosse falsification himselfe. for hee cutteth off my words in the beginning, See the chal­lenge, pag. 20. and midst of the sentence, [...]umbling the rest together very ill fauoredly, and marring the grace of my sentence with his lewde handling. To helpe out the matter, he alleadgeth other wordes of mine, out of the 35. page, where I say, that this proceedeth from the newe forge of popish inuention. But as before, so in this place he maketh mee speake of one thing in the singular number, where I speake of prohibition and dissoluing of marri­ages for spirituall kinred, and dissoluing of marriages contracted, and other matters in the plurall. And hauing framed my wordes after his owne lewd fashion, and cur­talled them at his pleasure, he chargeth me with a notable vntruth (as he calleth it) For (sayth he) there be testimo­nies and examples in the Primitiue Church of married folkes, pag. 15. that with mutuall consent vowed perpetual, chastity. And to that purpose he alleadgeth Epiphanius, Hierom, ye 2. councel of Arles, & S. Augustine. But first he minceth the matter, & dare not say any thing directly con­trary to that, which I haue written. For I say that marri­ed folks might not be so separated, but that they might come together againe. And he talketh of separation for a time. Now that which I say is most true, & is proued first by our sauiours words, Mat. 19. for as our sauior saith, that which God hath ioined, let not man separate. Therefore marri­age being instituted by God is not to be broken by the tra­dition of man. Secondly, the words of the Apostle, 1. Cor. 7. are direct for me. To those that are cōioyned in matrimo­ny saith he, not I command, but the Lord, that the wife depart not from her husband. And if man and wife for a [Page 9] time depart, he willeth thē to come together againe, least the diuell tempt them. Thirdly, the practise of the church proueth, that I haue said true, Scelus est, saith Chrysostome homil. 63. in Math. 19. in duo diuidere vnam carnē, sic et mulierē a suo viro diripere iniquissimum est. So likewise saith Theophylact. Si [...]ut impiū est suā carnem diuidere, ita et coniuges diuellere. He sayth, It is a wicked thing to separate married folks. Fourthly, reason sheweth, that if mariage be a knot indiuisible, that maried folks cannot be vpon pleasure sundered, & that it is a presūption intollerable for the Pope to dissolue mariage, whose institution is from God. Finally, it appeareth by Bellarmines dispute, de Mo­nachis c. 37. who handling this point with more cunning then this poore swad, yet is not able to proue that maried couples were separated for religion in auncient time, or that this practise was conformable to Christes, or his Apostles doctrine, as I haue verified against Bellarmine in my trea­tise de Monachis. As for the exāples & testimonies alledged by Owliglasse, they eyther are from the purpose, or make a­gainst him Neither Epiphanius nor Hierome saith, that maried folks vsed not to be admitted vnto holy orders, except they did promise perpetual continency frō their wiues, as Owliglasse with his glassy conscience affirmeth, (for neyther of them hath one word of promise or vow) but the contrary rather. Haeres. 59. Ad huc viuentē et liberos gignentem vnius vxoris virū saith Epiphanius, non suscipit (ecclesi­a), sed eum, qui se ab vna continuit. He hath not one word of any promise, nor doth he deny, that priests may re­turne backe againe to company with their wiues. Nay, hee sayth in the same place, that priestes and deacons haue wiues, and keep children, albeit against the outwarde rule of the church. So it appeareth, that this abstinence frō wiues, was but an humane ordinance, and not obserued in all places: which is that which I say.

Hierome likewise saith, that in certain churches they chose clerkes of bachilars, widdowes, Contra vigi­lant. in princip. or such as desisted to be husbands. But the question is, whether the church v­niuersally had any such order. And secōdly whether maried [Page 10] priests did promise or vow continency, and thirdly, whether they might not returne to their wiues: in all which points Hierome faileth Owliglasse. Nay Hierome saith, that cer­taine bishops ordained none, but maried priests, seeing the lubricity of others. Indeed I cōfesse he disliked it, but the que­stion betwixt Owlyglasse and me is concerning the practise of the Church.

The 2. Councell of Arles, is sayd to be celebrated in Sil­uester and Constantines time. But the acts of that supposed Councell describe a forme of the Church farre disagreeing from those times. Besides that the copies of it differing much one from another, as Surius testifieth, do shew the acts not to be authentical. But suppose they were, yet nothing is contai­ned in the 2. Canon of that Councell quoted by Owlyglasse, but that no maried man shall be made priest, nisi fuerit pro­missa conuersio. Which if our aduersary do translate, vnles he promise continencie from his wife, as he doth, then must he condemne mariage to be sinfull. Which if he do, then doth Owlyglasse teach doctrine of Diuels. If conuersion sig­nifie turning from wicked life, the Canon maketh nothing agaynst me. That the 199. Epistle to Ecdicia in the works of Saint Augustine was written by him, wee, are not bound to beleeue, seeing many Epistles dayly foysted in a­mong his, that are clearely knowne to be misbegotten. But were it his, and did he write, that Ecdicia, & her husband promising continencie, were to perseuere in that pur­pose: yet that proueth not, that if they were not able to per­forme their vow, that therefore they might not come togi­ther. For they liued in one house togither, & tooke no solemne vow. Ei obsequi sayth the author of that Epistle, in dome­stica conuersatione debuisti. Beside that, they had house and goods, and the womā was reprehended, for that she gaue them away: which is contrary to the course of Monkery in our times. Finally albeit this were the opiniō of one man, is it not ridiculous, to thinke, that all the Church in externall matters was led, and gouerned by one mans opinion?

To that place which I alledged out of the 19. of Math. hee answereth, that the band of matrimony doth cōtinue stil [Page 11] after the vow of continency. But if he speake of the vow of continencie after mariage solemnized, and not consummate, he doth shew himselfe to be ignorant what his own side doth hold. For the Councell of Trent, Ses. 24. cap. 6. doth decree, that such mariages by vowes of monasticall religion are quite dissolued. The same also doth Bellar. lib. de Monach. 2. cap. 38. by arguments endeuour to proue. If he deny that mariage consummate is dissolued by vowes, yet Cassian collat. 21. c. 10. and the last law Cod. de episc. & Cleric. is against him. Likewise seemeth Peter Lomb. to hold lib. 4 sent. dist. 31. §. 2. Angelus in authent. de episc. & cleric. & Baldus in authen [...], sed hodie. C. de adulter. The same also albeit by the Canonists denied C. ex publico. & C. ex parte tua. de conuersione coniugat. Yet in effect by the Popish practise is granted. For seeing the maried couples may no more cōpany togither, nor liue togither, nor yeeld mutuall of­fices of mariage loue one to another: who doth not acknow­ledge that in effect the Pope doth breake the hands of mari­age, & repugneth against his opiniō, that writeth to Ec dicia? for he would haue her to serue her husband in all things. Inter August. Epist. 199.

Sect. 4. That Masses and praiers for soules departed, and spe­ciall offices for the dead were neuer frequented by true Catholikes.

WHere I affirme, that the Papists say Masses and praiers for soules departed, & for the dead haue appointed special offices, & that my aduersarie shal neuer be able to proue, that such Masses, praiers, and offices haue bin frequented by true Catho­likes, there Owlyglas stormeth & sheweth great impacience. Belike he perceiueth that I touch his freehold, & wound him mortally. For in the Masse the very soule of popery cōsisteth. And rather wold the priests loose all the rest of their trinkets, then Masses and Dirges, which to Masse priests is prora & puppis, & the foundation of all their hope. Therfore he saith, that this which I say, is an vntruth in grain. But if he were not a dizard in graine, he would not so rashly haue aduentu­red vppon this point. For the first part of my proposition he [Page 12] cannot deny, vnlesse he will forsweare the Masse, as he hath forsworne his liege soueraigne. The second also cannot be denied, vnlesse Rob. Parsons, or he can proue the contra­rie. Let vs therefore see, if he can proue, that Masses, and Dirges, and set offices for soules departed, haue beene frequented of true Catholikes.

Homil. 69. ad populum. First he alledgeth the testimony of Chrysostome, yt saith, that not without cause it was ordained by the Apostles, that in the dreadful mysteries cōmemoration should be made of the dead, knowing therby, that much gaine and profit doth come vnto them. Secōdly he alledgeth Epiph. and August. that seem to say, that Aerius was condemned for denying, that sacrifices & oblations were to be offred for the dead, or that praiers were to bee made for them. Thirdly he alledgeth, Caluins confession, that saith, it was a receiued custom 1300. yeres agone to pray for the dead, and reproueth S. August. & Monica for it. Finally he calleth out my brother Willet for a witnesse against me, in that he saith, that diuers ancient writers inclined to maintain & commend praier for the dead. And yet all this commeth short of yt, which he would proue. For first in all these proofes there is no mention of speciall offices for the dead. Secondly there cannot any Masse bee shewed like vnto the Masses of Requiem aeternā. Thirdly the Masses set out vnder Chry­sostoms, Basils, & other fathers names, are of one sort onely. Neither shall you find, that beside the ordinary forme, they had speciales Missas votiuas, or Masses proper for the dead. Fourthly the commemoration made of the dead in times past was at the first a recitall of the names of the dead without any praier added for remission of sinnes. Fiftly in the Canon of the Masse in the old ordinall of Rome, the praier for the dead is left out. Sixtly Chrysost. neuer belee­ued Purgatory. For in the 3. Hom. vpon the Epistle to the Philip he saith, that iust men whether liuing or dead are with Christ. He would also haue praiers made for sinners, and for those, that die entangled in loue of riches, and per consequent great sinners. Likewise in the 69 Homilie, Ad populum Antioch. hee saieth, that iust men dying [Page 13] see God face to face, & would haue Christians he mourne for those that are dead in sinnes. Excogite [...] eis [...]uid solatii, sayth hee, modicum quidem, [...]lamemus tamen. These he would haue also to be remembred in the celebratiō of the holy mysteries, and would haue almes distributed for them. And this is that oblation, that the fathers speak of. Fi­nally, neuer shall Owlyg [...]asse proue, that Chrysostome, or Augustine, or any father beléeued, that Christs body and bloud was offered for the dead, as the Papists vse to offer it, or that wee are to pray, as they prayed in the memento for the dead, in the Canon.

To the place of Chrysostome I doe therefore answere, that he meant only, that the dead should be remembred in the celebration of the mysteries and was vncertaine what good it did to them, saying sometimes it did them much good, some time but litle. Vnto the places of Epiphanius, haere. 75. And Augustine de haeres. ca. 53. that Aerius was condemned for disallowing the order of the Church in this commemoration of the dead, and giuing thanks for their blessed [...]nd. And this is that prayer, which Caluin and we confesse to haue beene in the Church along time. But this maketh nothing for Ow­lyglasses purpose. For first the fathers neither knew, nor al­lowed Masses without Cōmunion. Quisquis mysteriorū consors non est, sayth Chrysostome, impudens, & im­probus astat. He condemneth him as a wicked fellow, that was present at the celebration of the Eucharist, and did not communicate. The which I haue confirmed by diuerse te­stimonies in my Latine booke, de Missa, agaynst Bellar­mine. There also I haue shewed, that the fathers did neuer teach, that the body and bloud of Christ were offered in the sacrament for quicke and dead. Lastly, in auncient time they made a commemoration of the Patriarks, of the blessed vir­gin, of the Apostles, Mar [...]yrs, and others. Now they pray to them, and not for them, as in time past. Wherefore to proue Masses, and prayers, and speciall offices for the dead, such as the Romish Church vseth, to be Catholike, Owl [...]glasse must bring vs other testimonies, and other fathers. In the meane [Page 14] while he hath proued himselfe a lyar and not me, and hath vtterly ouerthrowne the Masses of Requiem and Dirges for the dead, and not proued them in any sort to be Catholike or ancient. So that if he can say no more for Masses, he may go sing a Requiem for the soule of the Masse.

Sect. 5. Of the Idolatrous worship of Papists, which they giue to Images, to Saints, to the Crosse.

pag. 20. HIs fift accusation falleth vpon my words in the 1. chapter of my challenge, num. 16. where I say, that the Papists haue deuised Masses in the honor of the crosse, of the virgin Mary, Saint Francis, Dominicke, and other saints: and that vnto the Images of these Saints they burne incense, & offer their praiers and deuotions. But he to make his obiection the stronger, doth leaue out the first part of my sentence, know­ing himselfe to be guiltie of the crime, wherewith his con­sorts are charged. And in the latter part he leaueth out that which I say, of the Crosse and Incense, vpon which the ground of the worke is laide. Wherefore if he knew what hee wrote, he coulde not but well vnderstande, that hee had falsifyed my wordes. And yet fearing hee had not holde inough, he goeth to the 64. page, and where I say, that Damascene accounteth them Heretikes, De haeresib. C. Christiano-categori. that wor­ship the Images of our Sauiour, of the blessed Virgin, and the Saintes, as the Gentiles did their Gods: and that this is iust the cast of the Papists: hee leaueth out that, which I say of the Images of our Sauiour, and of the blessed Virgin, wherevpon dependeth the substance of my charge, which aryseth of this principally, that the Papists doe giue the worship of Latria to the Crucifixe, and to the Image of our Sauiour, and Hyperdouliam, to the Image of our Ladie. And finally hee reporteth my [Page 15] wordes thus, as if I had sayde, that the Papistes wor­ship the Images of Saints, as the Gentiles did their Gods, and pray vnto them: where that which I say of prayer followeth after, & standeth otherwise then hee repor­teth. Of which maner of dealing, if he could haue conuinced me: he would haue gone beside himselfe with bragging, as now he passeth all his companions, not onely in foolerie, but also in falsifying, and cogging.

Hauing thus mangled my wordes, and left out in the first place, the Crosse, in the second, the Image of our Saui­our, and turned both to his pleasure: hee had no reason to charge mee, with a shamelesse vntruth desperately auou­ched. For that which I say is true, neither did I thinke that Owliglasse, or any of his consorts would haue denyed a matter so plaine. Which because it proceedeth from his ignoraunce, I will direct him to his masters, that will teach him, that the same honour is due to the Image, that is due to the originall, and that therefore, the Image of Christ is to bee worshipped, as wee worship Christ, and the Image of our Ladie with Hyperdulia, and the Images of Saintes with the worship of Doulia: as appeareth by the testimonie of Alexander Hales, 3. p. quaest. 3. art. vlt. Thomas Aquinas, 3. part. quaest. 25, art, 3. and Caietans Commentarie vpon him. Bo­nauenture and Capreolus in 3. dist. 9. Bellarmine also confesseth so much in his Treatise de Imaginibus, cap. 20. And that this is as grosse Idolatrie, as euer the Gentiles practised, it may appeare, for that I doe not reade, that euer the Gentiles gaue the same honour to Iupiters or Apolloes Images, that they gaue to Iupiter and Apollo themselues.

I say also, that as the Gentiles did worship their Ima­ges, so likewise the Papists doe worship the Images of the Crucifixe, the Crosse, the Images also of our Ladie, and the Saints. For first as the Gentiles called on their Idols, so the Papistes say to the Crosse, O Crux aue [Page 16] spes vnica, auge piis iustitiam: and to the picture called Veronica, salue sancta facies. Secondly, as the Genttles to their Images gaue the tytles of Iupiter, Apollo, Mer­curie: so doe Papists call their Images, Saint Peter, Saint Dominicke, Saint Frideswide. Thirdly, as the Gentiles did burne incense to their Images, so doe the Papists before theirs. Finally, as the Gentiles did bowe downe to their Images and kisse them, and pray before them, so doe the Papists fall downe before stockes and stones, kisse their Images, and pray before them, as both the practise of Po­perie, and the doctrine of the Schoolemen doth shew. The Images of our Ladie of Loreto, of Monferrat, and in England the Image of our Ladie of Walsingham, and diuerse Saints shrines, doe shewe my wordes to bee most true. But sayth Owlyglasse, the Councell of Trent de­creeth, that due honour is to be giuen to Images, but not so, as that wee are to put trust in them, as the Gen­tiles did sometimes. But what if the Papists regarde not the decree of this absurd conuenticle? And what if the Papists doe more trust in the Image of the Ladie of Lo­reto, then the Gentiles did in the Images of Aesculapius or Mercurie? Wist not Owliglasse then confesse, that his consortes doe put some trust in these Images? But that is apparent, for they beleeue shee is able to doe more, then euer the Gentiles beleeued, that Aesculapsus or Mer­curie was able to doe. Furthermore, the Gentiles did ex­cuse themselues, that they did not worship their Images mate [...]ially, but rather the persons represented by their Ima­ges, as appeareth by Lactantius, li. 2. ca. 2. and Augustine in Psal. 11 [...]. and doth not this selfe same excuse serue the Pa­pists likewise? It is apparent by all their writings, and Bellarmine, and Gregorie de Valentia haue no better defence for this their Idolatrie in their treatises of the wor­ship of Images.

That the Papists do pray vnto Saints, and offer their praiers before their Images, it cannot be denied▪ Bellarmine [Page 17] calleth Saints Deos per participationem. Lib. 3. de cult. sanct. c. 9. Votum (saith he) non conuenit sanctis, nisi quatenus sunt dij per participatio­nem. That is, vowes are not conueniently made to Saints, but as they are gods by participation.

I trust therefore hereafter Owlyglasse will not charge me with desperate vntruth in this point, nor vrge me to exhibit proofes▪ for the more I bring, the more shame will fall vpon his face. In the meane while, I would haue the Papists to obserue for their learning, that Owlyglasses metaphores are drawne either from gamesters, as here, Page, 20. & 21. where he talketh of playing at barestake, and laying downe sufficient pawnes; or from women, Page, 6. as where hee talketh of more towe to our Rockes. Which sheweth, that he is a better gamester, then a disputer; and is as much conuersant in womens closets, as in his study. Wherefore, if Recusants be wise, they will take better heede hereafter, howe such compagnions come neare their houses, that are so well acquainted with their wiues rockes and frockes, to say no more.

Sect. VI. That the Popes decretales before Gregorie the 7. his time, had no force of lawe.

THe sixt exception which Owlyglasse taketh against me p. 22. is, for that I say, that before Hildebrands time, which otherwise is called Gregorie the se­uenth, the Popes decretales had no force of lawe. This saith Owlyglasse, is vntruth. And he prooueth it by a cer­taine decree of Pope Hilarie, that liued long before Grego­rie the seuenth, who threatned all with danger of their state, that should violate either diuine lawes, or the decrees of the A­postolike see: and by a constitution of Gelasius c. sancta Ro­mana. dist. 15. where he determineth, that the Popes decre­tales are with reuerence to be receiued. But his proofes are too weake to conuince me of vntruth. For first, neither of these authorities are authenticall, seeing it is not likely, that Hilarie would match the Popes decretales with Gods lawes, nor the Church of Rome neglect Gelasius his decree [Page 18] concerning apocryphal writings, if his authoritie were so great, as is pretended. Secondly, albeit Hilarie threaten, yet it appeareth not, that his threats were regarded. Thirdly, it is one thing to accept mens letters with reuerence, and an­other thing to accept them as lawes. Fourthly, it is a ridicu­lous thing to require men to beleeue the Popes in their own cause. Fiftly, lawes are not enacted by letters, nor recorded in scrowes; but solemnly established by publike seales and monuments, that giue them credite: which Owlyglasse can­not shew to haue beene practised in Hilaries, or Gelasius his decretales. Finally, the state of the Church was not such then, as that the Popes could command, or binde all Chur­ches by their letters. That therefore which he saith, is no­thing. But I doe alleadge the testimonie of the Records of the church of Rome, which containe no ancienter decretales then those of Gregorie the seuenth, as appeareth by the book of Bulles called Bullarium, Secondly Bellarmine, that is a man of greater knowledge, then Owlyglasse, doth faile, where hee goeth about to prooue, that the Popes had power al­waies to make lawes. For his records lib. 2. de pontif. Rom. c. 19. are weake, and all of them refuted in my answere to him. Cod de sum. Trin. & fid. Cath. & de e­pisc. audient. & acta concil. Finally it is euident, that for diuers hundred yeares Emperors and councels made lawes, and not the Popes; and that this course continued vntill such time, as Popes by suppressing the authoritie of both preuailed; and vntill the power of Antichrist began to shew it selfe in Gregorie the se­uenth. In this point therefore Owlyglasse sheweth himselfe ignorant of the storie of the Church; and not onely vagrant from his purpose.

Sect. VII. That the fasts of the synagogue of Rome, & their vsual formes were not established by the ancient Church.

IN the seuenth article of his supposed vntruthes, because Owlyglasse could not otherwise fasten the lie vpon me conueniently, hee doth curtall my words with an &c. and mangleth my sentence, applying that to one particular, which I direct to diuers [Page 19] matters. I say, that if we seeke all antiquitie, we shall not finde where the church of Christ hath commanded vs to keepe this Popes day, and that Popes day, and to abstaine frō worke on S. Francis, and S. Dominicks, and other canonized Friers daies, or where the same hath enioyned Christians to heare masse, or to fast lent, and embre daies, & vigils of Saints, & other tides according to the fashion of the Church of Rome. But our aduersarie doth vnhandsomely place my wordes thus, as if I had said, that if we seeke all antiquitie, we shall not finde, where the church of Christ hath enioyned Christians to fast lent, and embre daies, and vigils of Saints, &c. But if he had done me right, he should haue added these wordes, and other tides according to the fashion of the Church of Rome. Which if he had done, my wordes would haue giuen him no occasion of cauill. For then neither out of the 50. canon of the councell of Laodicea, nor out of the 63. canon of the fourth councell of Carthage, nor Hieroms epistle to Marcella, nor S. Augustines sermon de tempore, nor Leo, nor Epipha­nius his wordes, nor any other authoritie by him alleadged, could he haue brought any thing to contradict my assertion▪ neither doth master Willets confession any whit relieue him. The Councell of Laodicea doth not establish the fast of lent, nor saith any thing of choyce of meates, or the manner of fa­sting, but would, that men should fast vpon thursday before Easter. Which argueth, that before that time, that day was not necessarily fasted. Besides that, the Councell hath no­thing concerning embre daies, or fasts on vigils of Saints, and therefore short of my aduersaries purpose. Finally, the Synagogue of Rome doth not obserue the canon of this coun­cel, that would haue men to eate drie meate: for massepriests eate delicate fish, and licour the same well with wine. Ther­fore Carranza falsifieth this canon of the councel, In summa con­cil. Laodic. and for drie meates, putteth conuenient meates, fearing, as it should seeme, least he should lose his good fish, and good Spanish secke.

The Councel of Carthage can. 63. speaketh nothing of fasts established by lawe, but rather signifieth, that fasts were then vpon especiall occasion proclaimed. Qui tempore indicti [Page 20] ieiunij, saith that councel. Beside that, in this canon there is no mention of any set forme of fast, nor doth the councel speake of other then clerkes, which notwithstanding are not the onely men, that should fast in Lent. Finally, this ma­keth nothing for formes of fastes on embre daies and vigils of Saints.

Saint Hieroms order of fasting, which he speaketh of in his Epistle to Marcella against Montanus, the Romanists re­gard not▪ for they fast betweene Easter and Whitsontide, which he did not like. Besides that, he speaketh of no forme of fasting, nor alloweth the fasting, or rather Lenten feasting of the Romanists. Thirdly, that which he speake [...]h of Apo­stolical tradition is contrarie to S. Augustines wordes in his Epistle 86. ad Casulanum, where he sheweth, that the Apo­stles set downe no daies, nor formes of fasting.

The sermons de tempore set out vnder Saint Augustines name, are found to belong to diuers others. In the 62. ser­mon it is said, to be sinne, not to fast Lent. But the Roma­nists obserue not the order of fasting by that author prescri­bed. for he fasted without dining, and obserued not Sun­daies, and abstained from wine. The Romanists doe all o­therwise. Serm. 62. In isto legitimo, ac sacratissimo tempore, saith he, exceptis dominicis diebus nullus prandere praesumat. And a­gaine, Serm. 64. de tempore. speaking of Lenten fasting, quid prodest, saith he, vi­num non bibere, & iracundiae veneno inebriari? If then the Papists will not abstaine from wine, why doe they vrge vs to obserue, or beleeue his formes of fasts [...] That these Ser­mons of fasting are not S. Augustines, it is apparant; for that they contradict his Epistle ad Casulanum.

Leo ser. 2. de pentecoste c. 9. talketh of certaine fasts; but that they were the Romish embre fasts, Owlyglasse will not proue. Neither must he thinke, that we are bound to beleeue all Leoes epistles and sermons to be either written by him, or authenticall. If Owlyglasse vnderstand not so much, I will teach him, and shewe him reasons of my saying in my next.

Maister Willet saith Calixtus instituted the foure embre fasts. But he speaketh according to the opinion of the Roma­nists, [Page 21] and well knew, that the Epistles that go vnder his name, were counterfeit.

Aerius was condemned of heresie by Epiphanius haeres. 75. and S. Augustine haeres. 53. for that he held, [...]hat fails appoin­ted by the Church were not to be obserued. His error was, that he held, quod i [...]iunium non esset ordinatum, as Epipha­nius saith. But this toucheth vs nothing. for we know, that the Romish synagogue is not the true Church, and that the ancient Church neuer approued either the Romish doctrine, or the Romish order concerning fasting.

Seeing then Owlyglasse was neither able to prooue the Romish orders of Lenten fastes, or of embre daies, nor brought any one author to iustifie the fasts vpon vigils of Saints, what an impudent fellow was he to affirme, Page, 26. that in ancient times the Church of Christ enioyned Christians to fast Lent, embre daies, and vigils of Saints, shuffling in vigils of Saints into his conclusion, of which he had not brought any proofe in his premisses? Secondly, if he would contradict me, why did he not speake of the maner of the Romish fasts? Lastly, what reason hath he to charge me, as hauing dealt without conscience, where I denied their manner of fastes to be Catholike and christian; when he sheweth neither con­science, witte, learning, nor modestie in holding the con­trarie?

That I haue deliuered my opinion with good conscience, and that he with a cauterized conscience pinned to the Popes sléeue hath contradicted my assertion, it may also further ap­peare by the forme of Romish fasts. For first, the Romanistes place their fasts in abstinence from flesh, and not in abstay­ning from meate, or eating drie meats, or abstinence from wine, as the Easterne Churches did. Secondly they eate large dinners, and refraine not from them, as the author of the 62. ser. de tempore, among S. Augustines workes thin­keth they should. Thirdly, they beléeue that by eating flesh, and redd herring, and such like meate, they are able to satis­fie for their sinnes, and to inherit the kingdome of heauen: which is not only erronious but also most ridiculous Fourth­ly, they teach that fasting in Lent was instituted by Christ, [Page 22] and that the other fasts are apostolicall traditions. Finally, they burne true christians for eating of a péece of flesh vpon a fasting day. The which doctrine and practise is not only contrary to the doctrine of Christ, and his Apostles, and the fathers of the Church, but also to the practise of the ancient apostolike Churches, whose fashions we are farre to prefer before the practise of the late apostatical synagogue of Roome. Our Sauiour he teacheth vs, that we are not defiled by any meate, that entreth into a mans body. Quod intrat in os saith hée, Matth. 15. non coinquinat hominem. We may also thereout gather, that it is not meate, that doth satisfie vs. Secondly, the Apo­stle doth signifie, that this difference of meates procéedeth from the ceremoniall law, and therefore ought now to cease. If ye be dead with Christ, Coloss. 2. saith the Apostle, from the Elements of this world, why doe you yet decree, saying, touch not, tast not, handle not, which all goe into destruction in vse, according to the preceptes and doctrine of man. Thirdly, the Apostle doth also prophesie, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, forbidding to marry, & enioyning abstinence frō meats, which God hath created. Neither can this be vnder­stood of auncient heretickes, that thought flesh vncleane▪ for he speaketh of the latter times and saith in nouissimis tempo­ribus. The Papistes also would not so seuerely forbid eating of flesh, vnlesse they thought it a more holy matter to eate fish. Fourthly, Tertullian sheweth that Christians fasted vpon oc­casion of their owne accord, and not by constrainte of lawes. Indifferenter ex arbitrio, non ex imperio nouae disciplinae, saith he, Aduers. Psy­chicos. pro temporibus et causis vniuscuiusque ieiunabant. And this he speaketh of Christians, he being then teinted with the heresie of Montanus. Augustine in his 86. Epistle to Casulanus testifieth, that he findeth no set fasts enioyned by Christ, or his A­postles. Quibus diebus nō oporteat ieiunare, & quibus oporteat, saith he, praecepto domini, vel apostolorū non video definitum. Sixtly, lent was diuersly obserued in times past, as may be ga­thered by ye testimony of Irenaeus, as Eusebius writeth Ecc. hist. lib. 5. c. 26. the same may be proued also out of Socrates l. 2. hist. 43. & Sozomenus lib. 3. c. 13. Spiridion did not thinke it vnlaw­full to eate flesh in Lent, as Sozomenus testifieth lib. 1. c. 11. [Page 23] of eating drie meates, and abstinence from wine, and dinners I haue spoken before. Finally, if Owlyglasse had Lynceus his eyes, yet in all ancient stories he shall not find, where any was condemned by the Church to death for eating flesh vpon friday. And why? forsooth because this is the practise of the synagogue of Antichrist, and the whore of Babylon. Let it then be iudged, whether I, or the ecstatical Owlyglasse haue vsed better conscience in discussing this controuersie concer­ning Romish fasts, and who hath lyed, he or I.

Sect. VIII. That the auncient Church of Christ hath not forbidden Chri­stians to solemnize marriage vpon daies forbidden by the Church of Rome.

THe 8. article of Owlyglasses exceptions is drawn out of [...]he 32. page of my challenge. for where I say, that if we seeke all antiquitie, we shall not find, where the Church of Christ hath comman­ded christians to keepe this popes day, or that Popes dayes. &c. Or where the same hath enioyned christians to heare Masse, or to fast lente and imbre dayes, and Vigiles of Saints, and other tides according to the fashion of the Church of Rome, or to confesse our sins to Romish Friers and Priests, or not to solemnize mariage on dayes forbidden: hée is some­what offended at my words. but to make his obiection the stronger, he placeth them thus. If wee seeke all antiquitie, we shall not finde where the Church of Christ hath enioyned chri­stians, not to solemnize mariage on dayes forbidden: cutting out a multitude of my wordes out of the middest of my sen­tence; & making me to speake of one point, where I speake of diuers, and disioyning that which I coupled together, so that I may say, that if a man rake al the colledge of Iebusites. he shal not lightly find a more impudent, or witlesse falsary, then this. But to let that passe (albeit I maruel hée was not ashamed speaking against falsifications to falsifie euery place almost wich he toucheth) I say it is no vntruth to affirme, that the auncient Church of Christ did not prohibit Christians [Page 24] to solemnize mariage on dayes forbidden by the Church of Rome. And my reasons are▪ First, for that I finde not any such prohibition to haue béene vsed in the histories or monu­ments of the Church. Secondly, for that I doe not sée, that the aunciente fathers do mention in their writings any such matter. Thirdly, for that the first decretale concerning these prohibitons, that hath force of law, [...]s in the chapter capel­lanum. [...]xtr. de ferijs. Gratian doth insert a certa ne coun­terfect canon. 33. q. 4. Non oportet. But euery canonist can tell O [...]lyg [...]ass [...], that Gratians sentences are no law. Fourth­ly, I doe finde that Bellarmine de matrimonio. lib. 1. 2. 31. can­not proue this practise of prohibition of mariage to bée anci­ent. Bellar. de ma­tr [...]m. lib. 1. c 31 Fiftly, the aduersaries confesse, it is lawfull to contract mariage at any time. Wherefore then should it not be law­full to publish and solemnize the contract, seeing solemnizati­on is nothing, but a declaration of an act doone? Finally the poore proofes of Owlyglass [...] doe much confirme mée in my o­pinion. For he alledgeth nothing for his opinion, but a con­terfect Canon of the councell of Laodicea, that forbiddeth so­lemnization of mariages in Lent. That this Canon is coun­terfeit, it is apparent, for that there is no apparēce of such ac­tes in any authenticall record. Secondly, this Canon by Ow­lyglasse is numbred the 52. so doth also C [...]rranz [...] number it, from whence he had it. But Bellarmine lib. 1. de M [...]trim. c. 31. maketh it 25 the Canon. Thirdly, these Canons were written in Greeke, if any such were made in L [...]odicea▪ but these are meerely latine, and verie barbarous. In the 53. canon it is decreed non oportere Ch [...]istianos ad nuptias eun [...]es balare, aut saltare. But were this Canon truely made by the councell of L [...]odicea, yet maketh it nothing for Owly [...]lasse his pur­pose. For those canons are not obserued, and the Roma­nists cease not to da [...]nce at mariages. Againe, were this Canon obserued, yet it [...]aketh nothing for prohibitions out of Lent. So that Owlyglasse will come farre short of his rec­kening, when he commeth to conclude, that all proh [...]bitions of times of mariage practised in the Romish church, were al­so practised in the auncient church of Christ Iesus.

Page, 26. Our aduersarie doth further tell vs, that other testimonies [Page 25] might be brought for this purpose, but he will content him­selfe with the practise of the Church of England. And that he proueth out of our Almanacks and faculties for mariages in time prohibited. But this argument effecteth nothing, but onely the disgrace of him that made it▪ for it sheweth, that our aduersarie is better studied in the Almanacke, then in Saint Augustine. Further, the Almanackes set downe the feasts and Saints of the Romish Church, and that for the benefite of Merchants, that trade with other nations, al­though we obserue not these Popish Saints feasts. Thirdly if he were acquainted with our faculties as perfectly, as he pretendeth, he might know, that these prohibitions are not much regarded. Finally, if for a ciuil decencie the same were by some obserued; yet al ye ceremonies & orders of euery par­ticular church, are not auncient; nor is that any thing to the Romish church, whose superstitious and wicked decrees I wonder, that so many do blindly receiue without all ground of reason If then Owlyglasse haue any more testimonies in store, his friends would be glad to heare of them, for his own credit and promise sake. Otherwise they will wish, that he had been also prohibited to marie, and to beget children, least they be troubled with a race of such dizards.

Sect. IX. That the regenerat cannot liue without sinne.

IN this ninth article, Owlyglasse doth bewray his great ignorance, neither well vnderstanding, what we hold, nor what his owne consorts hold. If he did, he would not imagine, that we did distinguish sinnes into mortall and veniall, nor would he denie, that Papists hold, that the regenerat may liue without sinne. Sess. 6. c. 5. For first the conuenticle of Trent anathematizeth, whosoeuer shall say, that freewill is lost since Adams fall. Secondly, Ibidem, c. 18. the same ana­thematizeth all that shall affirme, that a man regenerar cannot performe all the lawe and commandements of God. If then a man after Adams fall haue freewill, hee may as well doe all things well, and so liue without sinne, as all things euil. [Page 26] Againe, if he be able to performe all the commandements of God, then may he liue without sinne: sinne being nothing els, but the transgression of the lawe.

Lib. de liber. arb. c. 3. Anselme defineth freewill to be a power to keepe the will right, in respect of righteousnesse it selfe. Bellar. lib. 3. de grat. & lib. arb. c. 3. saith, that free will is a free power, of things tending to an end to choose one before another. He saith al­so, Lib. 5. de lib. arbit. c. 13. that by force of freewill man without grace hath power to choose that is good, and to auoide that is euill, to obserue pre­cepts of manners, or to transgresse them. He holdeth further, that the regenerat is able to fulfill all the lawe of God: Ibidem. & conse­quently not to sinne. And that he prooueth by the words of S. Iohn, qui natus est ex deo non peccat: which he expoun­deth so, as if no regenerat man did sin, or transgresse Gods lawe. If then man hath such a power, as they say, and may fulfill all the lawe, and abstaine from all sinne, then I trust I doe the Papists no wrong, to say, that they hold, that the regenerat may liue without sinne. And although they denie not, that a iust man hath veniall sinnes, yet of their doctrine it followeth, that he may liue without veniall sinnes▪ for if he be able to performe the lawe of God perfectly, and to loue God with all his heart and all his soule, and hath free will to doe whatsoeuer is good, and to eschew whatsoeuer is euil; then may the regenerat liue also without venial sinnes. The Tridentine conuenticle granteth, Sess. 6. c. 23. that a man by speciall pri­uiledge may be without all veniall sinnes. Whether we speake then of great, or small sinnes, true it is, that the Papistes hold, that the regenerat may be without all sinne, and our ad­uersarie denying this point, neither vnderstandeth the doc­trine of his consorts, nor the sequele of it.

But saith he, this is not contrarie to al antiquitie, that the re­generate may liue without mortall sinnes. And his reasons are, because Gods commandements may be kept, and are not heauy. Our Sauiour Christ saith also, that his yoake is sweete, and his burthen light, and S. Luke affirmeth, that Zachary and Elizabeth were iust before God walking in all the commande­ments and iustifications of our Lord without blame. The se­cond councell of Arausica C. Vlt. teacheth, that by grace recei­ued [Page 27] in baptisme, Christ helping and working with them, all that are baptized may, and ought to fulfill such thinges, as per­taine to saluation, if they will labour faithfully. Saint Basill saith it is a wicked thing to say, that the commandements of Gods spirit are impossible. Saint Hierome maketh no doubt, but God hath commanded thinges possible. Finally Saint Augustine Ser. 191. de tempore detesteth the blasphemy of them, that say, that God hath commanded any impossible thing to man. Let vs therefore sée what antiquity saith, and what is the meaning of the fathers in this point. Luk. 11. Our Sauiour Christ taught his Disciples, and the most holy men to pray, forgiue vs our tres­passes. But that néeded not, if they did not commit any sinne. And S. Iames saith, we offend all in many things. Iames 3. The Apo­stle Peter signifieth, that neither the Disciples of Christ, nor the fathers were able to beare the yoke of the law. Act. 15. that which was impossible to the law, saith the Apostle Rom. 8. He saith also, that the flesh is not subiect to the law, nor can be. We know also that the flesh euermore lusteth against the spirit▪ the scriptures teach vs, that no mans heart is so cleane, that he can say, that he hath loued God with all his soule, and with all his heart. Saint Ierome epist. 62. affirmeth that chari­ty, which cannot be increased, as longe as a man liueth heere, is in no man. tanta mandata sunt, saith Saint Ambrose, In Galat. 3. vt im­possibile sit seruare ea. Hierome likewise writing vpon the 3. to the Galathians, saith the Apostle teacheth vs, that noe man can fulfill the law, and doe all that is commanded. nullus legem impleuit saith Saint Chrysostome in Gal. 2. Bernard vp­on the Canticles Serm, 50. saith, that in this life the law can­not be fulfilled of any. And experience teacheth vs as much. For the blessed virgine called Christ her Sauiour. But what néeded shée a Sauiour, if shee had not sinned? Neither can any be found, that can say, he is without sinne. The aduer­saries also confesse it sometimes. Implere totam legem, saith Thomas Aquinas in galat. 3. lect. 4. est impossibile.

As for the reasons of our aduersary, they are trifling. Gods commandements may be keept, as S. Iohn signifieth 1. Epist. 2. but in part, and in some imperfect sort. Secondly, our Sa­uiour also saith, that his yoake is not heauy. But Christs [Page 28] yoake is not the law, but his mercy and grace. Thirdly, his commandements are not greeuous, because euery one that is borne of God ouercummeth the world. 1. Iohn, 5. And this is the v [...]ctory that ouercummeth the world, euen our faith. To the councell of Arausica, Orat. in haec verba. attende tibi. and the testimonies of Hierome, S. Basill, and S. Austine Ser. 191. de tempore: one answere will serue▪ for we doe not say absolutely, That the law in it selfe is imposs ble, but that man in this life cannot performe it, by reason of his infirmity▪ neither doe we say, it is impossible to performe the law in part and imperfectly, or that ye law is impossible to be performed, because man, if hee had continued in grace might haue performed it▪ Lib. 3. ad Bo­nifac. c. 1. and now as S. Austine saith, Omnia man­data dei facta deputantur, quando quicquid non fit ignoscitur. and as he saith lib. 1. retract. c. 19. If now we cannot, yet some­time we shall performe the law of God. But none of these say, that wee can performe the whole law, and that perfectly, or that we can be without sinne. posse omne vitare peccatum, S. Hierome doth signifie to be the opinion of the Pelagians. Lib. 3. aduers. pelag. If then Owlyglasse will auoyde Pelagianisme, let him forbeare to charge mée with vntruth for saying, that the auncient fa­thers beleeued not, that a man regenerat might liue without sinne. Againe if he deny, that Papists teach, that a regenerat man may be without venial sins, the councel of Trent Sess. 6. c. 23. wil giue him the lye. He also in the latter end of the chap­ter doth contradict himselfe, where hée saith, That whether we speake of veniall, or mortall sinnes we abuse the reader, where we say, the fathers hould not, that a regenerate man may be without sinne▪ for he himselfe confesseth regenerat men haue veniall sins. But if he dispute no better of mortall and ve­niall sinnes, hée will giue a mortall wounde to his owne cause.

Sect. X. That the forme of confirmation now vsed by the Romanistes is newe.

LIkewise in the cause of the sacrament of confirma­tion, as he calleth it, he talketh very idlely and weakely, and is not able to confirme any thing which he saith, nor to disproue that, which I haue [Page 29] written, although after his wonted fashion he scoreth vp vn­truths. I say, that the forme of confirmation nowe vsed by the Romanists is new, & not receiued before the councell of Florēce about the yeare of our Lord. 1423. And that I say true, it may be confirmed, First by the writinges of the Apostles, wherein we cannot finde either institutiō, forme or matter of that new sacrament. Secondly by the practise of the auncient Church, wherein albeit wée finde the formes of other sacraments, yet we finde nothing of the forme, or matter, or manner of ad­ministration of popish confirmation. The old ordinall of Rome hath nothing concerning it. Isidore, Amalarius, and all ancient ritualistes omit it. Apud antiquiores authores, Lib. de confir­mat. c. 10. saith Bellar: speaking of the forme of confirmation, haec omnia ver­ba non habentur, nec hoc ordine. Thirdly the auncient fa­thers doe neither mention the institution, nor the proper matter, nor the forme vsed in this action by the Romanistes. Bellar. albeit he searched all corners, yet found he nothing to purpose. He citeth Iustine, Tertullian, Cyprian, Ierome, & others, Ibid. c. 5. & 6. but they speake only of a ceremony of vnction and imposition of handes, and that vsed in Baptisme most commonly. Fur­ther more they haue not any part of that doctrine which the synagogue of Rome teacheth concerning confirmation. Fourthly the schoolemen differ about the institution of confir­mation, some of them holding, that it was instituted in a cer­taine counsell at Meldis. concerning the formes also and mat­ter, or minister of this sacrament they are not resolued. Fiftly, we doe not find, that confirmation was receiued by any au­thoritie before the counsell of Trent; vnlesse we take the par­ticular instruction of the Armenians for a generall establish­ment. Finally the weake and absurd dispute of Bellarmine, that is not able to produce any institution of this pretended sacrament, nor to confirme, either the forme, or the matter, or the doctrine of it, may resolue a man, that the whole, as it is practised by the Romish Church, is a new inuention. Page, 31. All this notwithanding our aduersary saith, that it is a palpable vn­truth. viz. to affirme the forme of Popish confirmation, to be a new inuention. For to omit saith he, how the forme of this Sacrament is as auncient, as the Apostles. But if he had [Page 30] omitted this indeede; he should haue omitted a bold and im­pudent vntruth. For how is it to be presumed, that this forme of confirmation came from the Apostles, when the ad­uersaries themselues, before the conuenticles of Florence and Trent, could neuer agree about the forme? And what likelyhood is there, that the Apostles did practise this forme, when we finde no record or memoriall of it in auncient, and authenticall histories? Is it likely that the auncient church would not mention all the formes of their sacraments?

He saith also, that we cannot shew any later beginning of confirmation. as if we did not note the time of the instructi­on of the Armenians, and conuenticle of Trent; before which the schoolemen babled their pleasure, but they had no cer­taine resolution on which they depended.

Lib. 4. contra Donatist. He telleth vs also, that, as S. Augustine saith, we are to be­leeue that to be descended from the Apostles, which the vni­uersall Church holdeth, and hath alwaies beene obserued, and is not instituted by councels. But where he saith, that this is the case of confirmation; he sheweth himselfe to be past shame in auouching so grosse vntruthes. For first we shewe, that the forme of confirmation was talked of in the conuenticle of Florence, and established in the conuenticle of Trent. Se­condly, Owlyglasse shall neuer be able to proue, that the vni­uersall Church receiued, beleeued or taught the Popish doc­trine, and forme of confirmation. Would he shew the same out of the Greeke Fathers, and S. Augustine, and other do­ctors of Africke, Italy, and other countries, he might winne himselfe some good credit. Finally, he cannot shew by any good record, that the Church of Rome hath alwaies recei­ued the doctrine, and forme of confirmation, that now is.

This done, he proceedeth on, and saith: To omit this, and many notable things els, that it is sufficient to conuince master Sutcliffe of vntruth, that Thomas of Aquine almost two hun­dred yeares before the councell of Florence, setteth downe the verie same forme, affirming it to be the vsuall and common forme practised in the church, and Bellarmine, noteth this place of Thomas. But he sheweth himselfe a simple fellow, to omit notable things, and to say nothing worthy to be noted. But [Page 31] his simplicitie is farre greater, to thinke that either Thom. Aquinas is an authenticall witnesse, or that his testimonie doth conuince me. For albeit Thomas doe speake of such a forme, of which he must not thinke me ignorant, yet it is a ridiculous conceit to beleeue, that all the vaine conceits of schoolemen were receiued generally in the Church, & great simplicitie, not to vnderstand, that the church of Rome estée­meth but a little the disputes of schooles, vntill their schoole opinions be receiued by the pope, or established by councels. Further, he is not able to shew, that Thomas Aquinas saith, that the forme of confirmation by him mentioned, was the v­suall and common forme generally receiued in the Church. Our aduersarie therefore sheweth himselfe first to be a vaine fellow to take exception against me in this point, rather be­wraying his owne ignorance, then conuincing me of vn­truth: and next, a lying compagnion, in belying his owne maister Thomas Aquinas.

Sect. XI. That in auncient time the sacrament was not vsually kept in pixes, after the fashion of the Romish Church.

IN my former Challenge I say, that the idolatrous adoration of the sacrament, and the carying of it a­bout in procession, and keeping of it in pixes, sauou­reth of noueltie. Owlyglasse not daring to denie all, onely excepteth against that, which I say of pixes▪ but if he had remembred the matter of his Pamphlet, he would not haue mangled my wordes, and accusing others of falsifica­tion, haue at euerie turne runne into it headlong himselfe. Accusing me also of vntruth, himselfe most vntruely and im­pudently affirmeth, that testimonies of antiquitie are plentiful for keeping the sacrament in pixes. for he is not able to bring one authenticall testimonie for this point.

The councell of Nice can. 14. decreeth, that if there be in presence no Bishop or Priest (viz. beside him that admini­streth the sacrament) that then the Deacons shall, proferre & edere, that is, minister the sacrament, and receiue it themselues. [Page 32] But this is nothing to the keeping of the sacrament, the wordes concerning the time of ministration or communion onely, and the canon intending to restraine the insolencie of deacons, that at the communion presumed to receiue before eyther byshops, or elders, not that serued at the altar, but that were present at the communion, as appeareth by the olde Romish ordinall.

Can. 12. The same councell also would haue the excommunicat re­conciled before they depart this life, and to haue the commu­nion deliuered to them▪ but he is a simple fellow, that could not see, that the communion might bee administred to the sicke, although the sacrament was not hung ouer the altar in a boxe.

Ambros. de O­ [...]it. Theodos. Satyrus kept the sacrament about him in shipwracke; and a certaine woman, of whom Cyprian maketh mention, kept sanctum domini in her chest. but our aduersarie is a simple disputer, that would haue the abuses of simple women, and men vnchristened, such as Satyrus then was, obserued for lawe. Beside that, it is one thing to hang the sacrament o­uer the altar, and another thing to put it in a womans chest, or to lappe it vp in a clout▪ for this the Romanistes them­selues allow not.

Caluin 4. institut. 17. sect. 39. confesseth, that the sacra­ment was in olde time reserued. But he doth not say, as our aduersarie insinuateth, that this was the order of the church. Finally, our aduersary himselfe purposing to proue, that the sacrament was kept in pixes ouer the altar, conclu­deth only, that the sacrament was kept, abandoning the pixes to be defended by some other▪ his dealing therefore sauou­reth of great simplicitie, if not of fraud and malice, and vanitie.

But that which I said, is most true, and is at large iusti­fied in my discourse of the masse against Bellarmine, and is prooued first by the wordes of our Sauiour, who instituting this holy sacrament tooke bread, blessed it, and broke it, and gaue it to his Disciples saying, take, eate▪ where I would wish that simple Papists would consider, that he said, take, and eate, and not depart without eating, or els keepe the sacra­ment [Page 33] in boxes, or hang it ouer the altar.

Secondly, the Apostle 1. cor. 11. declareth, that the disci­ples of our Sauiour at his last supper did take, and eate, and drinke. How then happeneth it, that the massepriests doe not deliuer the sacrament to the people, but hang it ouer the altar? Will they prooue themselues to be not onely sacrifi­cers, and killers of Christ, but also hangmen of Christ, and the very famishers of Gods people?

Thirdly, the fathers giue cleare testimonie against our aduersaries, that keepe the sacrament in pixes. Apolog. 2. ad Antonin. De ijs quae cum gratiarum actione consecrata sunt, saith Iustine Martyr, vnusquis (que) participat, eademque ad eos, qui absunt, diaconis dantur perferenda. Dominus panem saith Origen. hom. 5. in Leuit. c. 7. quem discipulis dabat, & dixit, accipite & mandu­cate, non distulit, nec seruari iussit in crastinum. they both sig­nifie, that the sacraments presently vpon consecration were receiued. Hesychius also writing vpon Leuit. lib. 2. cap. 8. sheweth, that what remained of the sacrament, the same was forthwith consumed.

Fourthly, councels haue repressed the lewde customes of such, as in auncient time began to reserue the sacrament. The first councell of Toledo c. 14. decreeth, that he ought to be thrust out of the Church, as a sacrilegious person, which ea­teth not the sacrament, which he receiueth from the Priest. the like decree is found in the councell of Saragossa c. 3.

Fiftly, we doe finde the practise of Christ his church to be repugnant to this reseruation of the sacrament in pixes, as appeareth by the testimonie of Dionysius eccles. hierarch. c. 3. of Ambrose de sacramentis lib. 4. & 5. of Euagrius lib. 4. c. 35. of Nicephorus lib. 17. c. 25. and all auncient formularies of administring the sacraments.

Finally, the aduersaries themselues in this point ouer­throw their owne practise, as appeareth by the chapter Tri­bus gradibus, and the chapter Triforme. de consecrat. dist. 2. and the chapter s [...]ne cum olim. de celebrat. miss. that decla­reth Honorius to be the first bringer in of pixes▪ if then Ow­lyglasse haue no more to say in this point, he will rather ca­rie pixes out, then bring them into the church. He will also [Page 34] ouerthrow the worthie decrée of Honorius the principall pa­tron of the idolatrous worship of the sacrament in the Ro­mish Church; and disgrace himselfe, whose words are like painted boxes full of empty words.

Sect. XII. That the prayers of the Romish Church to our Ladie, to Saints, and to Angels, were not in vse in the auncient Church.

IN most of his obiections Owlyglasse doth not only giue the lye vnto me, but to the whole Church. for that which I say concerning diuers pointes of po­pish religion, is also mantained by the consent of Christs Church, as may appeare by that which already is aunswered concerning the abuse of the sacrament, prohibiti­ons of mariage, and such like. In this place I touch an abuse of Popish prayers, and say, that auncient Christians had noe mediators, but Christ Iesus, and that they did not pray to our Lady, or to Saints, or to Angels, but to God onely, in the name of Christ Iesus. Of which assertion the first parte is proued by the words of the Apostle. 1. Tim. 2. Vnus deus saith he, Vnus & mediator dei & hominum homo christus Iesus. Likewise by the words of the Apostle Hebr. 7. Whereby we vnderstand, that our mediator must be pure, and impolluted, and offer vp himselfe. and Hebr. 9. where Christ is called, the mediator of a new testament, and hath that office ascribed vn­to him only to intercede and mediate for vs with God. Se­condly, by the testimony of S. Austine lib. 2. contra Parmen. c 8. Si Ioannes ita diceret, saith he, haec scripsi vobis, vt non pec­cetis, & si quis peccauerit, nos mediatorē habebitis apud patrē, ego exoro pro peccatis vestris, sicut Parmenianus quodam lo­co mediatorem posuit episcopum inter populum & deum; quis eum ferret bonorum, & fidelium christianorum? Albeit the Bishop doth intercede and pray for the people, yet Austine will not haue him called a mediator. Thirdly, the same is proued by diuers arguments drawne frō the nature of a me­diator. He must be pure and impolluted, and able to recon­cile vs to God by his death and merites, he must offer sacri­fice [Page 35] for vs▪ he must mediate our peace with God the Father: as may be gathered out of the 7. and 9. chapter of the Epis­tle to the Hebrews, he must also be able to make a propitiati­on for our sinnes, as it is to be gatherered out of the 1. Iohn. 2. and finally he must be such a one, as can heare vs, and pro­cure our requestes to be granted. But neither are Saints departed so pure and impolluted, that they can oppose their holinesse to Gods iustice, nor are they able to reconcile vs vnto God by their merites. Nay themselues néede Christs mediation, and therefore cannot mediate for others▪ further it is derogatory to Christs priesthood, to make them priests able to reconcile vs to God, and then appoynt them media­tors to make God propitious vnto vs. Finally, Saints can­not be in all places to heare the prayers of those that call vpon them; nor are they able to giue vs that, we aske, nor doe they allow those, that leauing Christ Iesus come to thē. Owlyglasse aunswereth to this point and saith, that Saints are mediators not of redemption, but of intercession▪ and that Saint Paule. 2. Thess. 3. Desired the Thessalonians to pray for him, making them mediators of intercession. But first the scrip­tures and fathers allow none for mediators but Christ Ie­sus, that hath redéemed vs and mediated our peace▪ they are also vtterly vnacquainted with this Popish distinction. Se­condly, it is a ridiculous thing, because the Apostle desireth the Thessalonians to pray for him, to whome he might come, and which did vnderstand his prayer, to conclude after Ow­lyglasse his fa [...]hion that therefore either they were to be tear­med his mediators, or that wee may pray to those, which neither can heare vs in all places, nor grant our pray­ers.

The Second part of my assertion is proued First, by the doctrine of our Sauiour, that taught vs to pray to the Fa­ther in his name. Which is also confirmed by the practise of the Church testified in the 3 counsell of Carthage. c. 23. Se­condly the words of the Apostle are direct for vs. How shall they call saith he, on him, on whome they haue not beleeued? Rom. 10. Thirdly, the fathers condemne the practise of the Romish Church in praying to Saints. Mariam saith Epiphanius ne­mo [Page 36] adoret, neque muli [...]rum, neque virum. And againe, neque Tecla, neque quisquam sanctu; adoretur. non enim dominabi­tur nobis antiquus error, vt relinquamus viuentem, & adore­mus ea, Rom. 1. quae ab ipso f [...]cta sunt. S. Ambrose saith, that wee haue accesse to kings by mediation of tribunes, and noble men, because they are men, but to come to God, that we neede noe spokeseman, but a d [...]uout minde. Fourthly, both councels and fathers condemne worship of Angels. non oportet christianos say the fathers of the councell of Laodicea, Can. 35. derelicta ecclesia a­bire, & ad angelos idololatriae abominandae congregationes fa­cere. They say christians are not to relinquish the Church, and to runne into corners to worship Angels▪ for that they signifie▪ to be Idolatrie. Chrysostome in his 7. homily vpon the Epistle to the Colossians, refuteth the opinion of those, that vsed the mediation of Angels. Sunt nonnulli saith hée, qui dicunt, non oportere per Christum reconciliari, & ad pa­trem accedere, sed per angelos. propterea sursum ac deorsum, quae de Christo sunt versat. Epiphanius and S. Augustine, where they talke of the heresie of the Angelikes, condemne the worshippers of Angels for heretickes. Fiftly, the prac­tise of the auncient Church doth vtterly repugne against the forme of prayer vsed by the Pop [...]sh Church▪ for if we séeke all the rituall bookes of auncient Churches, we shall not finde, where christians prayed thus, Sancta maria Mater dei ora pro nobis, & nunc & in hora mortis. Neither was this prayer vsed,

Maria mater gratiae, mater misericordiae,
Tu nos ab hoste protege, & hora mortis suscipe.

Neither do I beléeue shall Owlyglasse find, where christi­ans prayed thus, Sancta Maria succurre mis [...]ris, iuua pusilla­nimes, Mens. febr. retoue f [...]ebiles, and so forth. Or as in the missall of Sa­rum, Vt haec munera tibi accepta sint, sanctae Batildis obtineant merita. Neither can any formes of litanyes to Angels, and Romish Saints in auncient bookes be found. Finally, these formes of prayers to Saints and Angels are most absurde. for what reason haue christians, not to pray to God through Christ as they are commanded, but to run to Saints, who neither vnderstand mens thoughts, nor are present in all [Page 37] places, nor can helpe vs. Nay it is a thing very vncertaine, whether many of those, yt the Romish Church doth worship, are Saints or no. the lye therefore, that Owlyglasse would fasten on me, doth touch the Apostles & holy fathers, whose doctrine I follow, and not me only. and may well be retur­ned backe on him.

But saith he, of prayers to Saints, and Angels, Page, 34 there are such plentifull proofes, that nothing can excuse him from ashame­lesse vnttuth. And there vpon he both bringeth forth Basill, the Councell of Chalcedon, Chrysostome, Saint Ambrose, and Ruffinus. But no one of these hath one such prayer, as the Romish missals and breuiaries haue many. Further the twentith homily in honor of 40. Marti [...]es, is not authenticall, nor was euer written by Basill. Neither is euery rude voyce that passed in councell to be ascribed to ye councell, as autho­rized vy solemne act. besides that, many Epistles and wri­tings are set out among the actes of counsels, that deserue no credit. so we say of the 66 homily of Saint Chrysostome, and Ambroses booke de viduis, that they haue passed the handes of idolaters, and falsaries. Ruffin telleth vs onely, Lib. 2. hist. c. 33. what some did, not what they ought to do. but suppose some of these fathers should either by an apostrophe name Saints or Angels, or else desire in a generality, that God will heare the prayers, which the triumphant Church offereth to God for the militant Church; or admit also that any one man should pray to Saintes: yet that is nothing to iustifie the blasphemous prayers of the Church of Rome made to An­gels and Saints; nor doth it appeare, that in auncient time there were any publike prayers to the Virgin Mary, to An­gels, and Saints. Finally the fathers did rather praye to God at the tombes of martyrs, then praye to martyrs as God. And we are rather to follow the most authenticall fathers, and best learned, and their authenticall writings, then either such ragges, as are falsesly countenanced by the names of fathers: or some hard speaches of fathers.

Further Owlyglasse signifieth that Hierome against Vigi­lantius defended prayers to Saints. But he must alleadge good proofe or els his reader, and euery one that readeth [Page 38] Hierome will tell him he lieth. Finally he alleadgeth M. Bell against mee, and adioyneth M. Gough in a treatise a­gainst M. Fecknam vnto him. But wee all agree against him, and his erroneous and superstitious doctrine concer­ning prayer to Saints. For albeit some one or two long since called vpon Saints; yet we all agrée, that auncient christi­ans had no such formes allowed, or publikely vsed and fre­quented in the church.

So it appeareth, that for prayers to Angels and our La­dy, our aduersarie can alleadge nothing, but the custome of Collyridians and Angelikes. Neither can he alleadge any thing for prayers to Romish Saints, nor to Martyres, but certaine counterfeit writings, and priuat practises of one or two Fathers, which against the rest, and against authenti­call writings of the same authors are of no validitie.

Sect. XIII. That auriculer confession after the Romish fashion was not e­stablished, nor receiued into the Church before Innocentius the third his time.

THe last exception which concerning matter of vn­truth Owlyglasse taketh against me, is, for that I denie the Romish auriculer confession to be aunci­ent. A matter that seemeth much to pinch my ad­uersarie, and his consorts. for that vpon this point, for the most part, dependeth the gaine of their faculties, the credit of massepriests with their clients, the accesse they haue into womens closets, and the ground of their trecherous practi­ses. Take away confession, the faculties of Priestes, togi­ther with their dispensations and absolutions fal, and masse­priests will be put to their beades. Their credit also will de­cay with their clients, if they cannot bring them on their knees before the priest sitting iudicially in his chaire. Nei­ther shall they be admitted further into womens closets, nor haue such opportunitie to corrupt them. Et sic perierunt illae cōfabulationes amatoriae, labellorū molles mors [...]unculae, carna­les contrectatiūculae, & multae ad rem gerendā opportunitates. [Page 39] Finally, they shal not be able any more to draw subiects frō their alleageance, nor to instill rebellion into mens mindes vnder colour of religion. Owlyglasse therefore is longer in this point, then in any of the rest, and would gladly prooue his auriculer confession, if by any meanes he could. but his testimonies are all weake and counterfeit. He alleadgeth first the testimony of the 2. councell of Chalon. but first that councell had no confirmation, but from Charles the great; by whose authoritie it was, as is said, assembled. Secondly, Surius Tom. concil. 3. that councell doth neither excommunicate those, that con­fesse not their sinnes, nor exclude them from christian buri­all, as doth Innocentius. Thirdly, C. omnis de poenit. & re­miss. the canons purpose was rather to instruct them how to confesse, when they did it, then to force men to doe it. Fourthly, the 33. canon seemeth to allow confession to God onely in those, that are instructed, and sheweth, how that diuers thought that to be sufficient. Finally, it were a hard law for the Romanists, if they should be bound to stand to all canons of councels. Why then doe they vrge vs to that, which they will not performe them­selues? Owlyglasse his conclusions out of this canon con­cerning the distinction of publike and priuat confession might well haue been spared.

Secondly, he produceth Leoes testimonie Epist. 80. ad episc. Campaniae, who séemeth, to say, that it is sufficient in secret confession to declare the guiltinesse of mens consciences to the Priest. But neither doth he commaund men to doe it, nor exclude from buriall, those that refuse it, nor writeth to o­thers, but his suffragan bishops of Campania, nor is his word a law, nor finally must Owlyglasse thinke, that we are bound to beleeue this their domesticall witnesse, or whatsoeuer fal­saries haue published vnder the name of Leo.

His third witnesse is Rabanus Maurus lib. 2. de instit. cle­ric. c. 3. who saith, that the penance must be secret for such mat­ters, as by voluntarie confession are reuealed to the priest or bi­shop. But this doth not shew, that euerie man was bound to confesse, or punished for not confessing, but rather that it was voluntarie, and of such sins as grieued mens consciences, against which we dispute not.

His fourth witnesse is S. Bernard. but he deposeth no­thing for him, nor against vs, blaming onely those, which for shame did hide their secret sinnes. De interiori domo c. 37. Which sheweth that men at that time were not bound to open their sinnes by any lawe, nor punished for not confessing, as is now the practise of the Romish synagogue.

His fift witnesse is M. Caluin instit. lib. 3. c. 4. numb. 7. but he saith nothing, which may seeme to make for the ad­uersaries, but onely, that the vse of confession was auncient. For vs he saith, confession was free, and that there was no law binding men to confession, before Innocent the third: which is that, which I holde. And that which Owlyglasse layeth hold of, [...]aketh nothing for his purpose. For albeit in aun­cient time christians grieued in conscience were wont to con­sult with such, as had charge of their soules, and some doe yet take that course among vs; yet that doth not prooue, that Romish auriculer confession was auncient, or that christians must necessarily confesse all sinnes, and be excluded from ab­solution, yea from christian buriall, if they doe not confesse in the priests eare.

His sixt witnesse is M. Bell in his suruey p. 536. who ac­knowledgeth, as it seemeth, auriculer confession to haue been established the yeare 254. But he speaketh according to the conceit of the aduersaries recordes, that deriue it no higher; and percase vnderstandeth a voluntarie frée confession, and in cases of publike penance enioyned. But all our dispute, is, whether before Innocentius the thirds decretal, men were bound to confesse all their sinnes in the Priests eares, and were excluded out of the church, and from buriall, if they did it not. To which point M. Bell saith nothing, that will re­lieue O [...]lyg [...]asse, in this point of confession, but that euerie indifferent man will confesse, he was an idle fellow to tri­umph vpon such poore aduantages.

His last testimonie is deriued out of our communion booke, where a forme of conf [...]ssion is prescribed for the com­fort of the sicke. And this he enforceth because as he saith, our communion booke was framed after the imitation of the Romish portesse and masse-booke, and thereupon imagineth, [Page 41] that the booke speaketh of auriculer confession vsuall in the Ro­mish Church. But first he wrongeth vs, to compare our cō ­munion booke to their filthy and abominable masse book [...]s & portesses full of abominable and idolatrous prayers, and most wicked and superstitious ceremonies, as I haue decla­red in my refutation of Bellarmines bookes de Eucharistia & missa. Secondly, he doth wilfully and maliciously vtter vn­truthes. For neither is there any affinitie, betwixt our bookes and the Romish missals and portesses, nor tooke wée any patterne from them, but rather from the old formularyes of the primitiue Church, which prescribed reading & singing of Psalmes, reading of scriptures, prayers and formes of mi­nistratiō of baptisme and the Lords supper, and preaching, as may appeare by the testimony of Iustin Martyr Apolog. 2. ad Antoninum of Dionysius the Areopagite, and others that men­tion the formes of auncient liturgies. Further, not this matter of auricular confession is enioyned by the missals, or breuiaries, but rather publike confession and absolution before the face of the whole Church. Finally the forme of confession, which the booke requireth, is neither of all particu­ler sinnes, nor enforced vpon any, nor required but of such, as are troubled in conscience. And therefore if Papists were not blind, and obstinat, they would confesse, that Owlyglasse had little reason or honesty, when he went about to proue au­ricular confession out of our communion booke. & Owlyglasse himselfe, if he had not béene past shame, would neuer haue af­firmed, that auricular confession had beene ordeined of Christ. and he meaneth no doubt, the Romish auricular confession, Viz. Vt omnis vtriusque sexus postquā ad ānos discretionis per­uenerit, omnia sua peccata solus cōfiteatur proprio sacerdoti, & infunctam sibi poenitentiam proprijs viribus studeat adimplere. That is, that euery man and woman of yeares of discretion con­fesse all their sinnes to their owne Priest secretly, and fulfill pennance that is inioyned them. Otherwise in his life time he is shut out of the Church, and after his death prohibited christi­an buriall. The councell of Trent Sess. 14. c. 6. saith, that au­ricular confession is necessary vnto saluation by the law of God Francis à victoria lib. de sacrament. c. de confessione, saith that [Page 42] a man being at the point of death is bounde by Gods law to confesse to a Priest. If, I say, he had but one sparke of hones­tie, or graine of modestie; he would not haue affirmed, that this maner of auriculer confession had béene ordayned by Christ, hauing neither testimony of scriptures, nor standing with the doctrine of the fathers. Delicta sua quis intelligit? saith the Prophet Psalm. 18. How then can a man confesse all his sins, which no mā is wel able to conceiue, nor the papists in their multiforme cases of consciences able to e [...]presse? Se­condly, the Prophet saith, that at what time soeuer a sinner doth repent him of his sinne, God will put all his wicked­nesse out of his remembrance. If a sinner therefore repent, he may haue remission of sinnes without auriculer confessi­on. Thirdly, the fathers doe refell this confessionall doctrine. nondico, vt confitearis (peccata) conseruo tuo, saith Chrysostome Homil. 2. in Psalm. 50. qui exprobret; dicito deo, qui curet ea. I say not, confesse thy sinnes, to thy fellow seruant, which may reproch it to thee, but speake to God, which careth for such matters. Ambrose vpon the 10. of Luke. c. 96. saith, hee readeth of Peters teares, but not of his satisfaction. And againe, let teares saith he, wash your sinnes, that by word you are asha­med to confesse. Lib. 10. con­fess. c. 3. what haue I to doe saith Saint Augustine, with men, that they should heare my cōfessions, as if they were to heale my griefes? Cassian also collat. 20. c. 9. teacheth men to confesse to God such thinges, as they blush to confesse to men. Fourthly, it is an absurd thing to say, Christ ordained cōfessiō, & not to be able to proue it out of the scriptures. Fiftly, if confes­on of all sinnes were necessarie; then who should escape dam­nation? Sixtly, Papistes themselues bring diuers cases, wherin they say cōfession is not necessary, & the Pope dispen­seth in case of omisssion of confession, which sheweth that confession is not iuris diuini, nor necessary to saluation. Final­ly, Nectarius Bishop of Constantinople tooke a way a kind of auriculer confession for publike sinnes which was vsed in that Church, as Sozomenus testifieth.

And this is sufficient to cleare me of all vntruth obiected against me by Owlyglasse. If he thinke otherwise, or if any man will not be perswaded, let him orderly answere this [Page 43] and other latin treatises, which I haue written concerning diuers of these seuerall causes. If they cannot, let them leaue for shame to belche out their wicked slaunders against vs, that shall alway be able to iustifie our allegations, and writings better then the aduersaries, that care not much, how falsely they speake or write.

CHAP. II. An answere to Owlyglasses excepti­ons concerning thirteene falsifications pretended to be committed in M. Sutcliffes late Challenge.

Sect. I. Of two allegations of Epiphanius and Augustine pretended to be falsified.

SICVT canis qui reuertitur ad vomi­tum suum, saith Salomon, Prouerb. 26. sic stultus qui iterat stultitiam suam. for if a foole haue a toye, or fancie in his head, you shall hardly bring him from it. This appeareth plaine by the foolish and fond deuises of our aduersaries, who hauing a conceit to worke vs some disgrace vnder pretence of vntruths and falsifications, are still talking and prating of falsificati­ons; wherein notwithstanding the cause being examined, all the disgrace will fall vpon themselues. Robert Parsons being at Rome, and hearing of the conference, that had pas­sed betwixt M. Plessis, and M. d' Eureux, would needes for­sooth [Page 44] send a pamphlet concerning that matter into England, with a request, that a triall might also be made concerning allegations by men of our side with vs, as it had passed be­fore in France. The which pamphlet albeit he might sée to haue beene answered two yeares agone, and his challenge concerning matters of falsification, to be accepted by me, and that I haue begone to obiect against him diuers notori­ous and most materiall falsifications, whereupon Romish religion séemeth to depend; yet is Owlyglasse our aduersa­rie still returning to his vomit, and still babling of falsifica­tions, himselfe being not able either to answere one word in defence of those falsifications, which I shewed to haue beene committed by the Romish church, and principall men actors in the Popes cause, or well able to declare, what falsification is, albeit by practise he be most cunning in it. And that ap­peareth by the first section of his third chapter page, 47. for albeit I doe not set downe any words either of Saint Augu­stine or Epiphanius, yet he pretendeth, that I haue falsified both. A strange matter, that a man should commit a forge­rie in writing, and yet neither make, nor preduce any wri­tings at all. But I quote them in the margent. for that hée may alleadge in excuse of his dizardrie▪ as if euery man that quoted an author in the margent, either vnfitly, or errone­ously, were to be charged with the crime of falsification. The worst therefore that he is able to say against me, is error, and mistaking, but if I haue not erred or mistakene, ither Saint Augustine or Epiphanius, I hope, some cacolike massepriest will tell Owlyglasse, that himselfe was much ouerseene in the verie first setting out of the harbour, which is a verie euill presage, and a most certaine signe, that he will make no good voyage, as long as he dealeth with me in this cause. That I haue said truely, it will appeare, by comparing S. Augu­stines, and Epiphanius his words with mine. I say, the He­racleonites did annoint their followers departing out of this life, and gaue them a certaine kinde of extreme vnction. And I quote Augustine de haeres. c. 16. and Epiphanius de haeres. 36. Let vs then sée, whether S. Augustine and Epiphanius doe not prooue my words true.

Heracleonitae saith he, feruntur suos morientes nouo modo quasi redimere, id est, per oleum, balsamum & aquam. Like­wise saith Epiphanius: H quando (que) aliqui ex ipsis oleum aqua mixtum capiti defuncti immittunt. I say further, that those heretikes said prayers for the dead. and that is prooued both out of Augustine and Epiphanius. Augustine said they vsed certaine inuocations. inuocationes saith he, quas Hebraicis verbis dicebant super capita, scilicet morientium. Hoc faciunt saith Epiphanius, vt hi qui has inuocationes in vitae exitu acci­piunt, cum aqua & oleo, aut vnguento permixtis incompre­hensibiles siant. So it appeareth, that these heretikes did an­noint their Disciples with oyle, hoping thereby to redéeme them and saue them. It appeareth also, that they said praiers ouer the dead, in a tongue not vnderstood. Do not then the papists resemble them, greasing their disciples that are dy­ing, and teaching them, that by this sacrament they are iu­stified, and mumbling prayers ouer them in a tongue not vnderstood of the assistants?

But saith Owlyglasse, the matter of our extreme vnction is onely h [...]llowed oyle▪ theirs was oyle, water, and balme▪ Page, 49. the forme of ours is a short prayer; theirs a strange inuocation in Hebrew words▪ the reason of ours is for the sauing of the sicke, the lifting of him vp, and if he be in sinnes, that they may bee forgiuen him; theirs to make themselues inuisible▪ ours is mi­nistred on the fiue sences; theirs vpon their head▪ ours before death, theirs after death. And this he prooueth by alleadging the words of Augustine and Epiphanius at large, to the wea­rying of his reader to no purpose. For we deny not any thing concerning this matter, which either Epiphanius or S. Augustine affirmeth. But all his allegation notwithstanding will not serue to cleare the Papists from the blot of Heracle­onisme. for admit they did not approue all their errors, and in all points, shall they therefore be discharged? Againe, it is false, that the Heracleonites did annoint only the dead▪ for S. Augustine saith, quod suos morientes vngunt. so it may be they annointed them both before death and after. Againe it is false, that the Heracleonites did not vse a short prayer, and in a strange tongue. If then they borrow greasing and pray­ing [Page 46] in a strange tongue ouer the dead from the Heracleonites, and hope to iustifie their disciples by these fond ceremonies; then I hope I haue said true in comparing the Papists to Heracleonites. Nay I did them fauour, that I said they were no worse then Heracleonites. for the massepriests oftentimes vexe poore soules, that lie vpon dying and are tormented o­therwise with sicknesse, and tumble them sometime vp and downe in their beds, and percase kill them, that otherwise might according to morall coniectures haue escaped. Be­side that, they touch women verie indecently, and very ab­surdly they put oyle in mens eyes, noses, and eares. Finally, our aduersarie speaketh foolishly where he saith, extreme vn­ction is ministred on the fiue sences. For that is a sencelesse thing to say, that the sences may be greased, and the Papists that speake orderly, say the instruments of the sences, & not the sences are annointed.

He saith also further, that S. Iames Chap. 5. maketh men­tion of extreme vnction. And that S. Augustine and Epi­phanius number Aerius among Heretikes for denying prayer for the dead▪ and that the Heracleonites did not say prayers for reliefe of mens soules in purgatorie. But if it would doe Owlyglasse any good, his fellowes had néede to say masses and dirges for him, albeit he be not yet in purgatorie▪ so sim­ply doth he handle his matters. For it is false, that S. Iames maketh mention of popish extreme vnction, or that hée thought that vnction, which hee speaketh of, to be a sacra­ment of the church; or that men were iustified by that vnc­tion. Nay he doth not speake so much as one word of the institution or forme of extreme vnction. Secondly, albeit Aerius was condemned for denying the orders of the church, and not allowing the commemoration of the names of the dead, at the time of the celebration of the Lords supper, as then was vsed; yet that toucheth vs nothing. For our Church hath taken away the superstitious abuses of the pa­pists; and we doe not willingly oppugne any order of the auncient church by lawes established among vs. Finally, al­beit Epiphanius, and Augustine talke of prayers for the dead; yet did they not thinke, that onely those were to be prayed [Page 47] for, or remembred in the holy ministration of the sacrament, that were in purgatorie▪ for they rehearsed the names of good and bad. And it may be, the Heracleonites did also be­leeue a certaine purgatorie▪ for els why should they pray for the dead, especially, if our aduersaries argue well?

Finally he asketh, Pag. 50. with what conscience I could so intreat the fathers in concealing their words. As if Owlyglasse him­selfe did not conceale Epiphanius his words concerning Aeri­us, whom he chargeth with Arianisme, and other heresies, and not onely for denying prayer for the dead. I answere then his fond question, that I had no reason to rehearse Au­gustines or Epiphanius his words, otherwise then I did, al­leadging them only to one point, which I entended to proue: and that I did iustly and truely. Neither can any man ex­cept against my doing therein, vnlesse Owlyglasse woulde haue men to cite whole chapters. And as for Owlyglasse, he may hold his peace with shame enough, vnles he can speake better for his clients.

Sect. II. That Epiphanius was fitly alleadged page 49. of my former Challenge.

THe like vanitie doth Owlyglasse shew in taxing me for alleadging the testimonie of Epiphanius. for the wordes that I cite, are truely described. The other testimonies I do not describe, but only quote them. Wherein then consisteth this high point of falsifica­tion? Forsooth saith he, because he doth most vntruely charge vs, as comming neare to Marcions heresie▪ but this is not fal­sification, as he might haue knowne, if he had knowne any thing. Nay it is not vntruth neither▪ for as Marcion suffe­red women to baptize, and extolled virginitie although he was a false lecher, and taught abstinence from liuing crea­tures, and separated mariage for religion, as is before de­clared in the 4. chapter of my challenge, so doe Papists suf­fer women to baptize, and their lecherous priests, albeit they extoll virginitie and abiure mariage, yet liue most dissolute­ly. [Page 48] Their Monkes abstaine from flesh, and they vse to sepa­rate mariages for religion, and all this Owlyglasse was con­tented to passe ouer in silence, as if it had been deliuered vn­to him vnder the seale of confession, although the same was plainly and publikely obiected in my former challenge, and was easie to be found, being set downe in the same place, where he supposeth, that I haue committed this foresaide falsification.

But saith he, he doth falsifie Epiphanius, wresting him con­trarie to his meaning▪ as if Bellarmine were to bee charged with falsification as oft, as he doth wrest places contrarie to the meaning of the authors. He saith also, that I conceale his words▪ but he must be a miraculous fellow, that will make him a falsifier, that doth not so much as alleadge any wri­ting. Such a simple fellow is Owlyglasse, with whom I doe contend, that the poore fellow cannot tell what he would say. I will therefore helpe to tell his tale, and shew that he is the falsifier, and not I.

In my challenge I doe charge the Papists, as sauouring of diuers points of heresie maintained by Marcion, and his followers. Among other things I say, that Marcion taught that by Christs descending into hell diuers mens soules were thence deliuered, and that he separated mariages for religion. And afterwards I adde, that the Papists sauour strongly of these heresies, and namely, in that they separate mariages con­tracted after vowes, & by vowes breake mariages before con­tracted, and also in that they defend that diuers mens soules were deliuered out of limbus patrum, which is a place in hel, as they confesse. All this Owlyglasse iumbleth togither con­cealing two or thrée sentences, and setting downe what hée pleaseth▪ he is therefore without colour taken in the act of falsification. As for me, he cannot charge with any such tricke; nor iustly say, that I either set downe Epiphanius his words falsely, or speake vntruely. But saith he, Marcion held, that Iewes and Infidels were deliuered out of hell, which wee beleeue not, and therefore wee are not to bee charged with Marcionisme. neither doe I charge them otherwise, then sauouring of that heresie. And this is most true▪ for al­beit [Page 49] they agrée not in particulars; yet both Marcionistes and Papists beléeue, that soules may be deliuered out of hell. Nay they are not ashamed to teach, that by the prayers of Grego­rie, Traians soule and the soule of an idolater called Falconilla were deliuered out of hell, which Owlyglasse confesseth to be Marcions opinion. And if soules may be deliuered out of hell (which is the place of the damned, as appeareth by di­uers testimonies of scriptures) why may not wicked mens soules be deliuered out of hell?

Finally he quoteth the fourth councell of Toledo c. 1. Ig­natius his Epistle ad Trallianos. Cyrilles Catech. 4. Epipha­nius haeres. 46. Hierome vpon the 4. to the Ephes. Grego­ries morals lib. 13. c. 20. But the silly fellow had dronke too much, when he calculated his distempered exceptions▪ for els I beléeue, that he would haue remembred, that we doe not dispute here, what the fathers hold concerning limbus patrum, but whether Epiphanius were truely alleadged, or not. He tolde vs in the beginning, that he would make his readers sée and féele falsifications, and that by opening the bookes, as it were, with a wet finger▪ and yet here he is not able to shew any such matter with all the skill he hath. Nay if falsification be committed, when fathers are falsely allead­ged, then is this Owlyglasse a notorious falsificator. For not one of them once speaketh or mentioneth limbus patrum. Nor is Bellar. albeit farther traueiled in the fathers then Owlygl. able to finde limbus patrum in the fathers writings, or that they distinguish hell into parts, or prouinces, or speake of Abrahams bosome, as the Papists doe. And that may plain­ly appeare by Bellarmines dispute de anima Christi cap. 14. from whence our aduersarie borrowed all his broken quota­tions, and allegations touching this point; if any man list to read the place.

Sect. III. Of Epiphanius his words concerning the worship of Angels.

TO prooue that the Caians were reputed here­tikes for the worshipping of Angels and pray­ing bnto them, I alleadge the words of Epi­phanius Haeres. 38. vnusquisque eorum vnius­cuiusque angeli nomen inuocat. Here my ad­uersary saith, that I haue chopt of some wordes in the midst of the sentence▪ but if I had said thus, that Epiphanius speaking of the Caians, saith, they call vpon seuerall Angels: then this accusation of Owlyglasse had fallen to the ground, for all the chopping, that I vsed was to ioyne the nominatiue case with the verbe▪ such heynous matters are they, that Owlyglasse obiecteth against me▪ he saith also, that I curtold the latter end of the sentence. As if it were not absurd, when a man citeth a father to a point, to alledge that which maketh nothing to the point. Besides that, the wordes which I omitted, doe rather make against the Papistes, then for them▪ for as the Caians do call somtime on true Angels, sometime on those which they suppose to be Angels; so do Papists in their pray­ers pray to Vriell, and other supposed Angels. They also pray to the Angell, which they suppose to be their kéeper, as grosly as the Caians, saying, obsecro te Angelice spiritus, cui ego indignus peccator ad prouidendum commissus sum, In hortulo a­nimae paris. ex­cus. anno. 1565. desi­nenter protegas, defendas, mundes, munies me. they pray to Angels to be cleansed from their sinnes▪ and afterward, no­tum mihi facias finem meum, diemque obitus mei. That is, make me know my ende, and the day of my death: as if An­gels did knowe such thinges. But saith Owlyglasse, hée hath perfidiously peruerted the whole sence of that father. But if he and his consortes did vse no more perfidious dealing a­gainst their prince and contry, then I haue doone in this case they would not so perfidiously combine themselues with for­raine enemies. As for this charge of perfidiousnesse, it falleth not vpon me▪ for I doe alleadge Epiphanius to proue only, that the Caians did worship and inuocat Angels. And this I haue [Page 51] proued out of his words most iustly & truely. But had I mis­taken his meaning, yet is not that falsification, but an er­ror: where as commonly the detector both falsifieth and erreth.

Being therefore not able to say much concerning the point in question, Owlyglasse asketh me, with conscience I could charge his consorts the Papistes with the abominable heresie of the Caians. But this is another accusation farre from the purpose. Beside that, I shewed him the point of the charge, & told him as plaine as I could, that both Papists and Caians worship Angels. But saith he, do we teach that ech An­gell hath doone some horrible sinne vpon earth? or do we in­uocat false Angels, or any Angell at all in that sorte, that the Caians did? And in the ende, he cryeth out, what is lying, what is falsification, if this be not? But his reader hath reason to crie out rather, what is foolery, what is dizardry, if this bee not? For I doe not charge the Papistes in all points to agrée with the Caians. Neither can the Papistes discharge them­selues of the note of heresie, if in any sort they agrée with the Caians. but yt did I declare plainly, & Owliglasse cannot deny, that both Caians, and Papistes worship and call vpon An­gels. Againe it apeareth, that the Caians were condemned not for calling vpon false Angels only, as Owlyglasse doth in­sinuate, but vpon true Angels. Vniuscuiusque Angeli nomen inuocat, tum eorum qui sunt Angeli, saith Epiphanius, tum eo­rum qui ficte dicuntur Angeli. It appeareth therefore, that Epiphanius accompted thē heretickes that worshipped true angels, and not only false angels as Owlyglasse falsely sup­poseth. But if the Papistes could auoyd that charge; yet if they worship newe orders of angels, and their angelicall kéepers, it should séeme, they cannot auoyde the charge of calling vpon false Angels. Finally as the Caians called vpon angels hauing committed great sinnes, so the adulte­rous and sodomitciall Priests confesse their great sins to an­gels, and desire their helpe. In the old ordinall of Rome printed at Rome anno. 159. and dedicated to Sixtus quintus, euery preist in this common forme of confession beginning confiteor deo omnipotenti, saith, peccaui in Sodomia. Owly­glasse [Page 52] therefore may do well to trie his skill, if he can cleare his consorts of this blot also. But he must beware, that he blurre them not as well with sodomy, as he hath blotted them with the worship of angels, being not able to touch a­ny of the rest of my arguments, which are diuers. So braue a patron is Owlyglasse of the Popish cause.

Sect. IIII. Of the heresie of Manicheyes in condemning mariage of their Priestes.

HAuing shifted his handes after a poore sort of the heresie of the Cai [...]ns, Owlyglasse in his iades pace passeth forth to treat of the heresie of Manicheyes, But I feare he wil yéeld his consorts no better sa­tisfaction in this place, thē in the other. He saith according to his wonted vaine of railing, that I make no scruple to falsifie Saint Augustine, and to conceale his true report, to infame the Papists with the heresie of the Manicheyes. But sée I pray you the simplicitie of Owlyglasse. I doe not so much as alleadge S. Augustines wordes▪ how then can he say, that I doe fal­sifie him? Secondly, I do not conceale any part of his mea­ning, that belongeth to the matter in question▪ other points that were farre from the purpose I had no reason to report, séeing I doe not say, that the Papists are in all points Mani­cheyes. My words therefore will easily cleare me of both my aduersaries his imputations. The Papists say I, agree with the Manicheyes in diuers points of heresies▪ for as the Manicheyes condemned mariage in their Priests, which for their excellencie they called electos, so likewise doe the Papists in their Monkes, and greater orders of their cleargie. It ap­peareth therefore, that I doe not falsifie Saint Augustine, as this false and foolish fellow saith. For you sée, and he must néeds confesse, I set not downe his words▪ neither doe I con­ceale his true report. For that which I say of the electi, or priests of the Manicheyes, is most true, and to be prooued by S. Augustine, which is the reason, that I quote that father in the margent. auditores qui appellantur apud eos saith S. [Page 53] Augustine speaking of the Manicheyes, Epist. 74. & carnibus vescuntur & agros colunt, & si voluerint, vxores habent, quorum nihil faci­unt qui vocantur el [...]cti. He saith, the lay people or auditours of the Manicheyes haue wiues, if they will, but the Priestes a­mong them h [...]ue none. In this therefore the Papists sauor of Manicheisme. Further, their Monkes abstaine from flesh, as did the electi of the Manicheyes. Thirdly, they hold, that Christs body may be in many places at once, which S. Au­gustine disputing against Faustus sheweth, to be a conceit of the Manicheyes. They do also grate vpon diuers other points of Manicheisme, as I doe obiect in my Challenge, and Owly­glasse séemeth to confesse by his silence: especially if silence be a kind of confession, as it is in cases that lawe and reason doth binde vs to answere. But saith Owlyglasse, why doth he not t [...]ll vs out of S. Augustine de haeresibus, Page, 58. what the here­sie of the Manicheyes was? as if it were not sufficient to de­clare, what their heresie was out of other bookes of S. Augu­stine, and other authors. Doth he beléeue, that because S. Augustine doth not note downe all points, that they are no heresies? But saith he, it appeereth by S. Augustine de haere­sis. c. 46. that the Manicheyes forbad mariage to all. He saith also, that Papists maintaine no such damnable doctrine▪ but that of the generall prohibition is reproued by S. Augu­stines wordes before alleadged. Neither is t [...] materiall, that they forbad generation▪ for it is one thing to forbid mariage, and an other to forbid generation, the Popes and popish priests forswearing mariage, and not generation, as appea­reth plainly by the multitude of their bastards. Beside that, in some things the Papists seeme also with the Manicheyes to condemne generation, allowing publike stewes, and not remedying more vnnaturall abuses, of which no generati­on ensueth. I hope therefore hereafter Owlyglasse will not charge me, either with falsification, or vniust dealing in this point, the filthinesse of popish priests, and their abstinence from honourable mariage approaching so neare to the filthy errors of the Manicheyes.

Sect. V. Of the heresie of the Pepuzians.

HEere our aduersarie spendeth some idle talke about the heresie of the Pepuzians. But if he had but cast his broad eyes on the title of his chapter; hée might haue well perceiued and remembred, that he tooke vpon him to conuince me of some notorius falsification; and how that was the subiect of his chapter, and that all the rest of his dis­course was idle and impertinent. He sheweth himselfe also to be a notable ideot, to charge me with falsifiyng S. Augus­tine, when I do neither cite S. Augustines words, nor name him. He was also some what to hasty to charge me, with belying the Papistes, in that I make them like to the Pepuzians. For my words do cleare mee of the first, and the practise of Papists doth iustifie my words in the second. I say, that both Papistes and Pepuzians suffer women to administer baptis­me. But Saint Augustines words to this point I doe not quote, but only to a former matter concerning the honor by the Pepuzians giuen to Pepuza, as my booke will shewe, and Owliglasse, if he were not owlesighted, might haue seene.

That the Papists are like to Pepuzians (albeit this should not haue béene disputed in this place) it appeareth First, for that as the Pepuzians did honor the towne of Pepuza, as Hie­rusalē, and the mother Church of all christendome, so doe the Papists honor Rome, and beléeue that sée, to be a Rocke, and a diuine thing. Hanc isti (scilicet Pepuzam) saith Saint Augus­tine, De haeres. c. 27. diuinum aliquid esse arbitrantes, Hierusalem vocant. The Papists thinke noe lesse of Rome. Secondly both Papistes and Pepuzians suffer wemen to minister baptisme. Thirdly, the Pepuzians had wemen prophetesses. mulieres apud istos saith Epiphanius, Haeres. 49. vocantur prophetissae. So likewise the Pa­pists haue their wemen prophetesses, Hortul animae. excus. paris. 1565. as appeareth by Hildi­gardis, Mechtildis, Brigit, and others. They also call the bles­sed Virgin Oraculum Prophetarum, and the teacher of the A­postles. Fourthly, the Pepuzians had wemen Préests. Epis­copi [Page 55] apud ipsos, saith Epiphanius, sunt mulieres. The Papists in this point passe them. For among them a woman was Pope, as is testified by Martin Polonus, Marianus Scotus, Pla­tina, and diuers others.

Now what saith the falsificator, and grand excoriatour of mens writings to all this? First, he confesseth, that it is most true, that his consorts permit women to baptize. But our Sa­uiour sent his disciples to baptize, and not any wemen. Nei­ther did he giue to wemen that power. Further we may not thinke, that wemen may with better right Baptize, then preach. Yet the Apostle, permitteth not a woman to speake in the congregation, Haeres. 49. and Epiphanius alleadgeth that place of the Apostle against the Pepuzians. Why then should not Pepuzians and Papists in this case be like? Secondly, he go­eth about to shew, that the Pepuzians, and Papists are vnlike, and namely for that the Papistes doe permit wemen to baptize only in time of necessitie. And for that the Pepuzians did giue priesthood to wemen. In which two points he would inferre, that there is a mayne difference betwixt Papists & Pepuzi­ans. But his conclusion is so simple, that it can abide noe touch. For he is an hereticke, that holdeth any pointe con­demned for heresie, & not those only which do iumpe with he­retickes in all points, and circumstances. If then the Papists should differ in two, or thrée points from Pepuzians; yet must they néedes sauour of that heresie, in permitting wemen to baptize, and deriuing the succession of Popes from Pope Ioa­ne, and other particulers before rehersed. Finally he would willingly proue the vnlawfulnes of wemēs baptisme by the practise of our Church. For saith he, the same doctrine is found in the communion booke in the treatise of priuat baptisme: where albeit wemen are nor mentioned, yet for that wemē are then present only, they are expressed. He affirmeth also, that M. Hooker doth defend womens baptisme, & that I must defend it, vnlesse I will change my opinion. But while he goeth a­bout to excuse his consorts, he runneth himselfe into danger, and like a shamelesse fellow bouldly auoucheth diuers vn­truthes. For first the practise of the Church of England is against wemens baptisme, and diuers Popish callats haue [Page 56] béene punished for attempting to administer that holy sacra­ment. Secondly, the booke doth expresse no such matter, as Owlyglasse pretendeth, but onely would haue children in ex­tremitie baptized priuatly, which may be done by the mini­ster, if the parents and friends of the childe be diligent. Third­ly, M. Hooker neuer was of that opinion, that the commu­nion booke allowed priuat baptisme, as Owlygl. impudently affirmeth. Nay, albeit he will not denie such baptisme to be of validitie▪ yet he saith, that such persons as doe baptize in­fants, being no ministers, doe vnlawfully vsurpe the ministers office. But Owlyglasse alleadging M. Hookers first booke p. 62. for the fift booke sect. 62. seemeth not to haue read the booke, which he quoteth. Finally for my selfe I answere that hee cannot with any deuise make it appeare, that in this point, or any other, I do oppugne, or digresse from the com­munion booke. Owlyglasse therefore may doe well to bring better stuffe, if he will conuince me of falsification, and to cease to talke of tippets and caps, himselfe hauing as much learning almost in his cap as in his head, and so well deser­uing a Tiburne tippet for his treacherous Diuinitie.

In the meane while let him put on a paire of spectacles, and he shall sée, that he was much deceiued, where he saith, I doe guilefully quote S. Augustine. For to this point of we­mens baptisme I quote him not at all.

Sect. VI. Of the heresie of barefooted brethren.

OF Heretikes, that went barefoote, Owlyglasse spea­keth very nakedly, poorely and barely. If the men he speaketh of, had been like to his discourse, they should not onely haue béen called Nudipedales for their going barefoote, but Adamitae for going naked. He pro­mised to conuince me of falsification. but here forgetting his argument, he chargeth me for not setting downe S. Augu­stines words. As if it were a crime, not to set downe imper­tinent words; or as if all lawyers and diuines, that referre themselues to places not set downe, were to be accused in so [Page 57] doing. For the matter it selfe, Owlyglasse cannot take any iust exception vnto my spéech, vnlesse he will deny, that bare­footed brethren were numbred among heretikes, or that the Franciscanes, and Excalceatae and Capuchins go barefoot. Nei­ther is it materiall that Augustine c. 64. de haeres. doth ac­compt these fellowes heretikes, for that they went barefoote vpon a misunderstanding of scriptures, and not for penance. For it is not the misconstruing of places onely, but the verie euill opinion, that heretikes holde, that maketh them here­tikes. Admit then, that Capuchins, Franciscans and their deare sisters the Excalceatae go barefoote vpon other reasons, then the olde barefooted heretikes; yet in the substance of their opinion, that is in the singularitie of going barefoote, both of them doe well agrée. Vnlesse therefore this masked brother of the Capuchins Owlyglasse can bring better ground of his accusation, he hath no reason on the behalfe of his barefooted brethren and sisters, to complaine of iniurious slander. But contrarywise we haue reason to wish, that sée­ing he will néeds go masked, he would take a shooe laid aside by some one of his holy barefooted sisters, and make a maske of it to couer his false visage, that no honest man may euer know so impudent and foolish a wrangler.

Sect. VII. Of S. Augustines relation concerning the Priscillianists.

SAint Augustine speaking of the Priscillianists saith, Haeres. 70. they disioyned maried folkes for religion sake. And these wordes I quote most truely. why then am I charged by Owlyglasse with falsification? Forsooth saith he, because ye leaue out the wordes following. But if this were a rule to prooue falsification, then would it be pro­ued, that Bellarmine hath falsified almost al the places, he quo­teth. for he in most places leaueth out wordes following; yea and sometimes wordes going before, and comming in the middest. To shewe the agréement of Papists and Pris­cillianists in one point, I leaue out nothing. that they agrée in all points, I doe not affirme. Yet in making sleight ac­compt [Page 58] of othes, they both doe well agrée. And in this point also, wherein our aduersarie pretendeth disagréement, yet they agrée better, then Owlyglasse thinketh. For albeit Pa­pists in open termes doe not say, mariage is vnlawfull; yet if those, that are maried, liue in the flesh, as is said in a decre­tale vnder the name of Syricius, and if maried folkes be a state imperfect, and cannot please God, as diuers stifly holde; then by a consequent the Papists condemne mariage. Finally, if that was a propertie of Priscillianists to separate maried folks one from another against the will of either party, then in se­parating mariages not consummate, the Papists are Priscil­lianists by the confession of Owlyglasse. They are also in this Priscillianists, that they kéepe maried couples a sunder being once separated by [...]nsent, and will not let them come togi­ther againe, although they much desire it. Of which point I haue discoursed more at large in the chapter going before▪ which may abate his rage in crying out of falsifications and lies, if he be not altogether furious, and beside himselfe.

Sect. VIII. That Infidels sinne in all their morall actions.

OF the Pelagian heresie now lately reuiued by the Papists, I haue spoken already sufficiently in my former treatise chap. 4. I did also deliuer diuers arguments and testimonies in my late Challenge to prooue Papists to be Pelagians, which if Owlyglasse had béene the man he taketh himselte to be, he would haue en­countred and answered. but he poore ideot had no such stuffe in him. Therefore denying not that Papists and Pelagians agrée well in the definition of sinne, and that they ioyntly holde, that a man may be without sinne, and that both main­taine that concupiscence is sanctified after baptisme, after a sort, and diuers other points of Pelagianisme, he onely snat­cheth at thrée or foure places of S. Augustine, and so with a maske on his broade face passeth on to play the Zanni in o­ther matters. Where I say, that Saint Augustine holdeth a­gainst the Pelagians, that the Gentiles sinned in all their acti­ons: [Page 59] he saith, I belie S. Augustine, and maliciously peruert the sence and scope of his writing. Afterward he denyeth, that it is Pelagianisme, to holde that Infidels sinne in all their acti­ons. Againe he saith, that this point is forged by me, and false­ly fathered vpon S. Augustine. And so he runneth on in a vaine of rayling, led on as it séemeth by his dictates, and not reading the place alleadged. for otherwise he would neuer so impudently haue faced out an vntruth, nor ignorantly de­nyed that, which is to plainly, and in diuers places of the chapter quoted, by S. Augustine affirmed. And of this I wil make any indifferent man iudge. Lib. 4. contr. Iulian. c. 3. Cum non ad suum finem saith S. Augustine, referuntur dona dei, hoc ipso mali his v­tentes efficiuntur iniusti. He saith, that wicked men vsing Gods gifts, are made sinners and vniust, for that they referre them not to the right ende. And afterward, si gentilis, qui non viuit ex fide, nudum operuerit, periclitantem liberauerit, aegri vulnera fouerit, diuitias honestae amicitiae impenderlt, ad testimonium falsum nec tormentis potuerit impelli, quaero abs te, saith Augustine to Iulian the Pelagian, vtrum haec opera bo­na bene faciat an male? Si enim quamuis bona, malè tamen fa­cit, negare non potes eum peccare, qui malè quodlibet facit. He saith plainly, that Gentiles sinne in all their actions, though the act be good. Againe, bonum malè facit, qui infideliter fa­cit, qui autem malè facit, profectò peccat. Againe he saith, that Infidels sinne in doing that, which of it selfe is good. Hée doth also prooue it out of the Apostles wordes, because, that whatsoeuer is not of faith, is sinne. If then the Archpriest haue any power ouer this rayling fellow; he may doe well to giue him some discipline, that hath maintained Iulian the Pel [...]gians opinion, and denyed S. Augustines doctrine, and like an ignorant dolt crieth out, that I haue forged these words and fathered them vpon S. Augustine.

But saith he, S. Augustine doth not note this error in the Pelagians, viz. that Infidels sinne in all their actions, but repro­ueth the heretike for a different matter, to wit, for maintaining that Infidels had true vertues. and to this point he reporteth a sentence out of S. Augustin. But therin he doth also bewray his ignorance. for as S. Augustine disputeth this point in [Page 60] the beginning of the chapter, so he disputeth the other in the latter ende of the same chapter. But either our aduersarie had not so much learning, as to vnderstand latin, or els he tooke this quotation out of Bellarmine, or out of his dictates. Againe, our aduersarie sheweth himselfe to be blinde, not séeing, that, what I say, doth follow of that, which himselfe alleadgeth. For if Infidels haue no true vertues; then doe they sinne in all their actions, vnlesse our aduersary wil haue their morall actions neither to be good, nor bad. Further­more, if the will of Infidels be like an euill trée; then can it bring foorth nothing, but euill fruit. And if whatsoeuer is not of faith, is sinne; then if the actions of Infidels doe not proceede of faith; it followeth that Infidels sinne in all their morall actions. and this is the conclusion of S. Augustine. Was not Owlyglasse then a wise fellow trow you, to auouch an vntruth so impudently? and doe you not take him to be a simple disputer, that alleadgeth words, that conuince him of folly, ignorance, and pelagianisme?

Sect. IX. That man is not able now in this frailtie of nature to performe the lawe of God perfectly.

THis point hath also heretofore béen debated. it re­steth therefore now, that we examine onely Saint Augustines opinion herein. I say, that this is the Pelagians argument to prooue, that man is able to performe the lawe of God, because that God would not, say they, commaund things impossible. And this I prooue by Saint Augustines wordes lib. de gratia. c. 16. Magnum ali­quid se scire putant Pelagiani, quando dicunt, non iuberet de­us, quod sciret ab homine non posse perfici. His words are cleare, that the Pelagians vsed so to say, and argue, as I haue set downe. What is then the reason, that moued my aduer­sarie to charge me with falsification? Forsooth saith he, be­cause he leaueth out these wordes following of S. Augustine, quis haec nesciat? As if euery one, that leaueth out wordes following, were to be charged with falsification. Beside [Page 61] that, albeit words following were to be rehearsed; yet pur­posing only to rehearse the argument of the Pelagians, I had no reason to ioyne Saint Augustines words with theirs. But saith Owlyglasse, S. Augustine [...]eprehendeth not the Pelagi­ans for bringing this reason. But therein he sheweth his ig­norance, if not malice. For what reasonable man cold euer haue imagined, that S. Augustine disputing against the Pe­lagians did either allow their opinions, or their grounds? But if a man cold haue imagined so, yet S. Augustines wordes that follow, would haue taught him, that he disputeth against the Pelagians argument. For saith he, God doth command vs thinges, that wee cannot doe, that we may learne, what to aske of him. For faith by prayer obtaineth that, which the law com­mandeth. His words are: ideo iubet aliqua, quae non possu­mus, vt nouerimus quid ab eo petere debeamus. Lib. de grat. & lib. arb. c. 16. ipsa est enim fides, quae orando impetrat, quod lex postulat. Now what can be more contrary then that, which the Pelagians say Viz. That God would not commande, if man were not able to per­forme; And that which S. Augustine teacheth, Viz. That God commandeth vs some thinges, that we cannot doe?

Furthermore if man were able to performe the whole law, because God would not els commande it; then were it possi­ble, for iust men to liue without all sinne; which Saint Augu­stine in his bookes against Pelagius, and where he setteth downe the Pelagians heresies, doth note to be flatte Pelagia­nisme. with Saint Augustine also doth Herome accorde. Fate­beris saith Critobulus, Lib. 3. contra Pelag. that susteineth the part of the Pelagi­ans, eos qui Christi baptisma consecuti sunt, non habere pecca­tum, &, si absque peccato sunt, iustos esse. That is thou wilt, I trow, acknowlege, that such as are baptized haue noe sinne, and if they haue noe sinne, that they be iust. But if man be able to kéepe Gods commandements; then may he also be perfect­ly iust, and without sinne▪ our aduersarie therefore hath no reason in this place to call me, a notable falsifier. But euery indifferent man may sée, that it standeth him vpon to cleare himselfe of Pelagianisme▪ he must also vnderstand Saint Au­gustine better, before he dispute of his doctrine of freewill, which is, so repugnant to schoole diuinity, as nothing more. [Page 62] Thomas Brandwardine doubted not to charge the schoolemen with flat Pelagianisme. In lib. de gratia & libero arbi­trio.

Sect. X. Of the subiection of sinne to our will.

IN my challenge pag. 59 I alleadge these words of the Pelagians, that we haue freewill strong, and firme, not to sinne. And this I confirme by Saint Augus­tine, who ascribeth these words to the Pelagians. But my aduersarie being but a nouice in Saint Augus­tines writings was not able to find them, and finding them not, or not well discerning them, sée I pray you, how rudely hée commeth vpon me. False it is, saith he, that Saint Augus­tine holdeth it to be Pelagianisme to say, that we haue freewill: or that sinne is subiect to our will. He addeth of his owne these words, that we haue freewill, as if I had simply denied all frée­dome of will, or as if that were here the question betwixte vs. And afterward he saith, the place which he quoteth, find I cannot, and therefore doe confidently challenge him of play­ing false vnder borde. But sée, I pray you, the blindnesse and impudence of this paltrie companion▪ the words, which I cite, are found in Saint Augustines first booke de gratia christi contra Pelagium & Celestium. c. 28. Cum tam forte, in­quit (scilicet Pelagius) tam firmum ad non peccandum liberum in nobis habeamus arbitrium, quod generaliter naturae huma­nae creator inseruit, rursus pro eius inaestimabili benignitate quotidiano munimur auxilio. Seeing wee haue so strong and firme freewill in vs, not to sinne, which God the creatour gene­rally hath inserted into mans nature, againe of his inestimable bounty we are strengthened by his dayly helpe. Hereby it appeareth, that Pelagius taught, that sinne was so subiect to our will, as that thereby we were able to auoyde sinne. And that this is oppugned by Saint Augustine, it appeareth in the words following. quid opus est saith he, hoc auxilio, si tam forte ac firmum est ad non peccandum liberum arbitrium? I hope therefore the Papists will be ashamed of their champi­on, the ground of whose bragges is ignorance.

But saith Owlyglasse, Saint Augustine neuer denied free­will. As if I had sayd, that he did, or else because wée haue fréewill after a sort, that therefore we haue fréewil and pow­er not to sinne. This the poore ideot imagineth: and there­fore he produceth diuers places out of S. Augustine. But I do not speake one word against fréewill, but of the strength of fréewill, to hold sinne in subiection, and to abstaine from sinne and that this is playne Pelagianisme, it appeareth both by Saint Augustine in the place already quoted, and by S. Iero­me lib. 3. contra Pelagianos. Nay our aduersary denying, that my words are to be found in Saint Augustine, himselfe afterward vnawares pag. 73. doth cite them out of S. Augu­gustine: shewing himselfe therein a vaine, and ignorant brabler.

Finally Owlyglasse by producing diuers places out of S. Augustine, where freewill is mentioned, imagineth that in the controuersie of fréewill, he ioyneth with the Papists, and is contrary to vs. But that he shall neuer be able to proue. nay he denieth, that man hath such a strength of fréewill, that he is able to abstaine from sin▪ which notwithstanding both Pelagians and Papists hold▪ we also deny not, but God by his grace is able of vnwilling to make vs willing, and willingly to walke in the wayes of his commādements; and that by his owne fréewill, man doth commit sinne, which is the sum of S. Augustines doctrine of fréewill, of which I may say fréely, that Owlyglasse is ignorant. But what néede I to stand longer vpon this point, séeing the question is not here of fréewill, or the power thereof, but whether I alledged Saint Augustine truely or not? what néede I, then to make any longe discourse of that which I haue already sufficien­ly cleared?

Sect. XI. Of the representing of God by images.

IN this section Owlyglasse doth charge me with no lesse fault, then iniurious slaunder, Pag. 75. &. 76. & malicious falsification And why? forsooth because I say, that the men of Trent do permit the diuinitie to be figured and af­firme, [Page 64] that this doth sauor of the heresie of the Anthropomor­phites. Let vs therefore consider the words of the assembly of Trent, and the practise of papists in this point. If it shall happen sometime, Sess. 25. con­cil Trident. say the men of Trent, that the histories of scripture for the profit of the people, be expressed in imagery or pictures, let the people bee taught, that the diuinitie is not therefore figured, as if it might be seene with the eyes of the body, or expressed with figures▪ the words in latin are, quod si aliquando historias & na [...]rationes sacrae scripturae, cum id in­doctae plebi expediet, figurari contigerit, doceatur populus, non propterea diuinitatem figurari, quasi oculis conspici, aut fi­guris exprimi possit. So it is apparent, that they forbid not God the father, and the holy ghost also to be expressed in ima­gery, or painted, when any history or narration of scripture requireth the same, but the people must be taught, what to vnderstand by these images and pictures. In exp [...]icat. 1. praecepti. The Romane ca­techisme likewise teacheth, that the diuine maiestie is iniu­ried, if any shall endeuour by art to expresse the forme of the diuinitie, as if that might with eyes be seene, or colours and i­mages expressed. Which sheweth, that the papists forbid not men to make the image of God the Father in the forme of an olde man, or the holy Ghost in the similitude of a doue, but to beléeue, that the diuinitie it selfe may be figured with colours, or séene. Likewise, the cōmon practise of the church of Rome is, to figure the person of the Father in the image of an olde man, and the holy Ghost in the likenesse of a doue. If then God the Father be like an olde man, or the holy ghost like a doue; then doe the Papists sauour of the heresie of the Anthropomorphites. If these images doe not resemble God the Father, and God the holy Ghost; why are they permit­ted? Finally, why doe papists paint and graue the holy tri­nitie, and to the image thereof set vp lightes, and giue the worship, that is due to God himselfe? The rehearsall there­fore of the act of the assembly of Trent, and the doctrine of the Romish Catechisme, doth rather intricate Owlyglasse, then acquit him. The same certes doth clearly discharge me from my aduersaries clamorous accusation.

Sect. XII. Of the definition of a Romish Catholike.

THat the Romish religion, as it differeth from that religion, which we professe in England, is nothing but a packe of impostures, lies, fables, and super­stitious toyes, I shall haue occasion to declare at full in some other treatise. But least any might thinke, that I wronged the sée of Rome, from whom all these abuses are deriued; I would pray euerie man, that hath skill and ley­sure with indifferencie to reade the Legends of the Romish Church, the Rubtikes of the masse, their rituall and ceremo­niall bookes, their treatises of the Popes authoritie, the fa­bulous lies of Caesar Baronius, that filthy lying Cardinall, and such like testimonials as they prooue their religion by. Now we will onely talke of the definition of a Romish Ca­tholike, that euery man may sée, what a bare fellowe he is, and how little religion and honesty he hath. I say that Bel­larmine teacheth, that he is a good Romish Catholike, and a true member of the Romish church, that professeth the Romish faith, and communicateth with the Romanistes in their sacra­ments, and is obedient to the Pope: yea although he haue nei­ther inward faith, nor charitie, nor other inward vertue. And thereupon I conclude, that the Papists are like to the Euno­mians, that taught, that so a man were of their religion, it skil­led not, what sinnes he committed. That Bellarmine so tea­cheth, it is apparant by his words in his second chapter de ecclesia militanti. Nostra sententia est, saith he, ecclesiam v­nam esse, & non duas, & illam vnam & veram, coetum homi­num eiusdem christianae fidei professione, & eorundem sacra­mentorum communione colligatum sub regimine legitimo­rum pastorum, ac praecipuè vnius Christi in terris vicarij Roma­ni pontificis. And afterward he saith: Non putamus requiri vl­lam internam virtutem, sed tantum externam professionem fi­dei, & sacramentorum communionem: scilicet, vt aliquis ali­quo modo dici possit pars verae ecclesiae, de qua scripturae lo­quuntur. If then he be a good Romane catholike, of whom, [Page 66] the true definition of a Romane catholike may be affirmed, then may all wicked and damnable heretikes be true Ro­mish catholikes, if they professe the Romish faith, and com­municate with the Romanists in sacraments, and submit themselues to the Pope. But saith Owlyglasse Bellarmine saith not, that such as want inward verrues, are good Catho­likes, but onely, that they are true members of the Church. As if the true members of Christs church were not good ca­tholikes; or as if he were not a good citizen, of whom the de­finition of a citizen may truly be affirmed: and as if he could not be a good, and true pope, that is no good man. Of which point our aduersarie must beware, least he touch too rudely the sores of his holy father, and of a pope make no pope.

He saith further, that this obiection of Eunomianisme is ra­ther to be charged vpon Lutherans and Caluinists (for so this papal swad doth call Christians) and vpon M. Willet, they giuing excessiue prerogatiues to faith, and such as teach, that a true faith cannot be lost. But albeit he take his pleasure to rayle vpon me; yet should he forbeare to wrong those, that are either at rest, or at the least neuer wronged him. And in this place hauing his hands so full of me, he might well haue spared to contend with others, being no match for any. To his charge I answere, that Eunomius his heresies touch vs nothing. For neither doe we déeme them good Christians, as Eunomius did, that haue no inward faith, nor workes; nor did Eunomius talke of the faith of Christ Iesus, as we doe, when we say the iust shall liue by faith, but of his owne new deuised faith. Owlyglasse therefore hath no reason, for any thing done by me, to crie out, that Bellarmine is abused, and his words falsified; nor to charge vs with Eunomius his he­resie. But his consorts will, and iustly may thinke him an idle fellow, if he can no better either cleare himselfe, or con­uince others, especially taking vpon him to doe both.

Sect. XIII. Of second mariages, and whether the Papists dislike them, or no.

THe last place out of which our aduersarie goeth about to fasten an imputation of falsification vpon me is, for that I say, that the Papists like to the Montanists dislike second mariages, and denie to blesse them, accounting these mariages not so holy a sacrament, as the first. And this he saith is a slan­der, for that Papists doe not mislike second mariages. But here, as before oftentimes, he forgetteth the subiect of his dis­course▪ for he should haue conuinced me of falsifications, if he had remembred, what he had in hand. And yet in this place he doth not so much as touch any place by me allead­ged, or supposed to be falsified. Onely to conuince himselfe of notorious ignorance, he hath quoted a marginall note be­longing not to this, but to the next place (as he might haue perceiued by the direction, if hee had not béene blinde) and hath set the same ouer against my words in this place, as if I had proued my sayings of the Montanistes by Damascens chapter beginning, Christianocategori, in his booke de haere­sibus. such a learned aduersarie haue we to deale withall.

I answere further, that I doe not slander the Papists, as my aduersarie chargeth me, when I say, that they sauour of Montanisme in disliking second mariages▪ for their counter­feit canons doe pronounce them punishable by excommuni­cation, that marie more then once. De his qui frequenter vx­ores ducunt, say they, & de his, quae saepius nubunt, 31. q 1. de hi [...] tempus quidem poenitentiae his manifestum constitutum est. And af­terward: Cum praecipiatur, say they, Ibidem secundis nuptijs poeni­tentiam tribuere, quis erit presbyter qui propter conuiuium illis consentiat nuptijs. It appeareth therefore that they enioy­ned penance for second mariages, as for a grieuous crime: and forbad the priest, to be present at the feast of such mari­ed folkes. Beside that, they doe not allow, that a Priest shall blesse the second mariage: nor doe they accompt the second [Page 68] mariage to be so holy a sacrament, as the first. Finally, Sy­ricius calleth maried folkes, C. Plurimos. dist. 82. and defenders of priests maria­ges followers of lustes, and teachers of vices, sectatores libidi­num, C. proposuisti. Ibidem. & praeceptores vitiorum. And Innocentius, as if they were vnholy, and could not please God, and were in the flesh, excludeth maried folkes from the ministerie of the altar. Which sheweth, that they sauour of Montanisme, if not worse.

But saith Owlyglasse, if it be Montanisme, to denie second mariages to be so holy a sacrament, as the first, what then be they, that denie first and second mariages, to be any sacrament at all? But this is a balde kinde of disputing, to propose a mans argument, otherwise, then he frameth it. We doe not say, they be Montanists in denying the second mariages to be a sacrament, but that they sauour of Montanisme in disliking second mariages, and preferring the first before the second. Of which that is an argument, that the Papists accompt not the second mariage so holy a sacrament, as the first.

Secondly, he denyeth that Papists mislike second mari­ages▪ but the Canon de his 31. q. 1. doth testifie against him.

He saith thirdly, that the blessing of the first mariage re­maineth▪ and that therefore they blesse not second mariages, because they had blessed them before. But howe doth the blessing of the first mariage remaine, when a maid is maried to a widowe? Further, the Canon de his 31. q. 1. sheweth, that second mariages were punished with penance, and priests forbidden to be present at the feast, as if such mariages were impure, and vnlawfull.

He would fourthly prooue, that second mariages are not to be blessed by the testimonie of S. Augustine serm. 243. de tempore, and the 7. Canon of the councell of Neocaesarea. But after his cogging manner he belyeth S. Augustine, who speaketh nothing of the blessing of the second mariages, nor of the blessing of the priest, but rather of Gods blessing de­nyed to such, as kéepe first concubines, and then marie. The councell of Neocaesarea hath nothing of the blessing of second mariages, but enioyneth priests to abstaine from such mari­age [Page 69] feasts, and condemneth them as vnlawfull▪ so that, I doubt, Owlyglasse will hardly, without some slie distinction, be able to defend this councels act.

He saith finally, that Montanists were not counted heretiks for not blessing the second mariages, nor for reputing second mariages not so holy a sacrament as the first, as I would make my reader beleeue, but for condemning them vtterly as wicked and vnlawfull. He beareth his reader also in hand, that I doe maliciously suppresse the authours words, to the ende, not to haue my iugling espied. But notwithstanding his iugling, and lying, he cannot so escape the note of Montanisme. For first I doe not argue the Papists to be Montanists for the rea­son surmised by Owlyglasse, but for their dislike of second mariages▪ and this dislike I prooue by those, which he men­tioneth, and by other arguments. Secondly, if such as con­demne second mariages, as sinfull, be Montanists, then must they either blot out the Canon, de his 31. q. 1. or confesse themselues Montanists. The glosse is driuen to poore shiftes to salue the hurt of this Canon; and yet cannot ridde his hands with any honesty of the matter. Thirdly, it is a ri­diculous point, to charge me with suppressing an authours wordes, when I doe not so much, as intend to name an au­thour, nor ayme at any mans words. Owlyglasse therefore might doe himselfe more credite to leaue his lewd termes of iugling, and slandring, and such like, and bestow them on the massepriests his consorts, whose whole practise is nothing els almost, but cogging, lying, and iugling, and most shame­full dealing.

And thus all that smoake, which our aduersarie first rai­sed with his fierie and turbulent exclamations, is vanished away, and all doubt either of supposed vntruthes, or falsifi­cations cleared in the iudgement of all indifferent readers, and by the confession of the aduersarie also, vnlesse he be a­ble to maintaine the quarell which he hath begun, and to put away my answere to his former exceptions. If then hee should be taken halting in schooles, as he hath béene in this writing; I thinke he would as soone make a simple ende of himselfe, as he hath made a poore dispatch of his cause.

CHAP. III. An answere to the detectors idle obseruations.

IT is a common rule well knowne to Logicians, that the conclusion doth follow the weaker part of the premis­ses. Philosophers also hold, that by common course of nature, nothing can be made of nothing. If then the premisses, out of which our aduer­sarie goeth about to deduce certaine conclusions and corollaries, be false, weake and very euill faitured; it is a great presumption, that his abortiue, and odious conclusions and corollaries are like to his former propositions, false, euil fauoured, foolish and slanderous. And if his former accusations concerning vntruths and falsifications, be nothing; it is very probable, that these idle fancies, which he calleth obseruations are no­thing, if not lesse then nothing, and that they are like to ca­stles built in the ayre, and foolish conceits of a man of distem­pered humours. The which albeit the reader may well vn­derstand by himselfe, and by my former answere, wherein all his odious slanders are well rebated; yet least Owlyglasse should runne madde by conceit of his owne prowesse, I am determined for euery indifferent mans further satisfaction, to procéede forward, and to yéeld an answere to his vaine, weake, and absurd obseruations and conclusions.

Pag. 82. ob­seruat. First he obserueth, that a filthy fardle of fowle lies, and cor­ruptions is contained in my whole booke, when one Chapter of my Challenge hath affoorded so many. But this filthy rai­ling [Page 71] compagnion compounded of a fardle of fooleries and im­postures, and sauouring like the bottome of an olde broken lampe, of the Popes greasie superstitions, hath no reason to charge me with lies or corruptions, vnlesse he could con­uince me, and iustifie his exceptions concerning matters sup­posed false and forged. Whether he be able to conuince me or no, I appeale to the indifferent examination of both our discourses. I doe therefore retort this argument vpon Ow­lyglasses masked visage thus. If where our aduersarie thought to finde most matter of aduantage, he hath wearied himselfe in his vaine cauilling course, and yet neither found vntruth, nor corruption, but rather contrariwise plaine and honest dealing; I hope all moderat papists (for of others I make no question) will neither suspect my dealing without cause, nor beléeue such vaine clamorous compagnions with­out due proofe. Againe if Owlyglasse with his broade eyes, notwithstanding all his diligence and endeuour, could not finde in so many authorities, as I alleadged, any iust subiect of sclander; it is a great argument, that he could not well take exception to the rest of my discourse. For it is a méere simplicitie to thinke, that he would haue spared me in any thing, if he could haue taken me at any aduantage, sée­ing he hath cried out so lowde vpon no aduantage, and am­plified his most idle and friuolous conceits, being nothing but the flatuous blaste of a frantike massepriest. Let all Pa­pists therefore beware, how they trust such clamorous and slipperie companions.

He noteth further, that I would be loth to haue these points examined before any learned auditorie. But how much he is abused, and presumeth to abuse his reader, may well appeare by my former answere, where not onely before a fewe, but before the whole world I haue answered all his vaine obie­ctions.

I doe also further promise him, God sending me life, ne­uer to faile him, as oft as he shal dare to come forth against me in like triall. But, I beléeue, he poore ideot will not an­swere my obiections▪ for hee hath already fled out of the listes, and fayled to answere such falsifications, as I haue in [Page 72] my answere to Parsons relation obiected against him, and his consorts.

He doth in the ende of this obseruation againe desire me, to procure him a free conference. but what shall that néede, when I yéeld him more, then is desired? Notwithstanding, if he thinke to winne any thing at my hands by conference; let him procure me first a frée conference at Paris and Sala­manca; and I doe promise to procure him a frée conference at Cambridge and Oxford. In the meane while I pray him, I prouoke him, I by all means vrge him to answere in wri­ting such lies, as I auerre his consorts to haue made, and to cleare the Church of Rome, and her principall proctors of such notorious falsifications, as I say they haue committed. If he be not able, as indéede I take him to be altogither vn­sufficient, let Robert Parsons, Frier Garnet, or the Archpriest answere, and maintaine the quarrell which this idle com­pagnion hath begun. And let them set their names to their writings, and come foorth with bare faces, that wee may know, what they are we deale with, and not as hitherto, fight with N.D.E.O. and such like hollowe fellowes, and meere shadowes. If not, let them assure themselues; I wil by publike writing discouer such a packe of impostures, lies, falsifications, villanies, and treasons committed by Rob. Par­sons and his consorts, that they shall wish Owlyglasse han­ged, that first prouoked me, and beganne this quarrell. I will also make it knowne, that they are so guiltie, that they cannot answere.

His second obseruation is, that no credit is to bee giuen vnto me concerning matter of fact. because in matters of faith and learning, as he saith, I make no scruple to corrupt, and vse broad falsification. But his collection is so childish, and fop­pish that his owne clients, if they list, may sée, that he know­eth not what concerneth fact, and what concerneth faith and learning, that distingusheth learning from matter of fact (as if no learning were required of Ro. Parsons to discusse matters of fact) and would make f [...]ith and learning both one (as if his consorts, that take themselues to be learned, were also faithfull christians) and teacheth, that the controuersie con­cerning [Page 73] falsifications and vntruthes obiected by him, toucheth faith and not fact, as if we did not as well contend about mat­ter of fact, as faith in this idle quarell begonne by our aduer­sarie, and wherein the state of the mayne controuersie is, whether I haue spoken vntruth or not, and whether I haue falsified any authors alledged by me, or not.

Secondly if no credit be giuen to those, that tell lyes and falsifie authors, as Owlyglasse affirmeth; then by his sentence we are not to beléeue, either the pope of Rōe. or his agents, ye most notorius lyers & falsifirrs yt euer the world sustained. A­gaine if no credit be to be giuē vnto my discourse concerning ye packing & trechery of his consorts, why doth he not answere me, and conuince mee of vntruth? And what reason hath he to desire his readers, not to beleeue that, which him­selfe is not able to controule? Is not such a bald compagni­on ashamed, to take to him as much authority as the Pope. that all the generation of antichriste is to beleeue vpon his owne bare word?

Thirdly if all his idle obiectiōs concerning pretended cor­ruptions and falsifications he so cleared, as that I looke for no more answere of so nastie a disputer as this Owlyglasse is; then it can be no credit for him to cry so loud, or to vse these odious and slaundrous termes of corruptions. and falsificatiōs, but he ought rather to looke downe vpon his owne, and his consorts filthy factes, then to pinche at others mēs faultes.

Fourthly if the papistes his clients be so cleare, as he ma­keth them, why doth he not answere for them playnly and honestly refuting euery point of my charge? If they be guil­tie why doth he not rayle a spirt at Rob. Parsons, that so foolishly brought them forth to this triall, and there left them to speake for themselues?

Fifthly, if he list not to excuse any Papist for the cariage of his life, as he confesseth, what reason hath he to blame me if I vpon so iust occasions giuen me by that rinegat, and false traytor Rob Parsons haue toulde them some parte of their faultes?

Sixtly if he will not haue my verdict admitted against his clients, though conuinced by playne euidence & witnesse, he [Page 74] hath no reason to require, that the verdict of Robert Parsons a most notorious and infamous libeller, and a knowne and professed traytor, and an infamous person conuicted by his owne wicked and treasonable writings, and by the testimo­ny of his owne consorts, or the accusations of such libellers, as Owlyglasse and such worthlesse and namelesse fellowes should be admitted or receiued. Againe if he wil haue nothing to be affirmed without authenticall testimony & proofe; then must he and his malicious mates forbeare to send forth so many vaine and fabulous pamphlets.

7. Further if hee charge me hereafter with wilfull and witting falsification, as he sticketh not very boldly and often to doe; then must he proue first falsification, then this quality of wilfull knowledge: wherof hytherto he hath done neither againe, if I obiect that to him which he cannot deny; then modesty would require, that he should confesse; & shame force him not to defend any more matters knowne notori­ously to be false.

8. If hee take to himselfe and his consorts the name of Catholike Church, and will néedes charge me with a setled malice, and desperat resolution against the Catholike Church, he must proue two thinges. First that Popish religion is the ancient catholike religion; and next, that I oppugne the ca­tholike faith. Vnles he doe this, his reader will take him for a lewd begging compagnion, that taketh that for granted, that is in controuersie, and we must accompt him for a paltry fel­lowe, that is not able to answere our arguments, where­by we proue that Popish religion, which we refuse, is neither catholike, nor ancient.

9. If boldly and falsely he will denie that our faith hath had continuance and succession from Christs time, and challeng both to himselfe; he must then deny, that the faith taught in the Apostles créede, and established in the fowre first general counsels, and contained and grounded vpon the holy canonicall scriptures, hath alwayes continued since Christs time, and hath had continuall succession vntill our dayes. And to prooue the Popish faith, he must shew, that the Apostles taught, and that the holy fathers beléeued, First that [Page 75] Christ had a body inuisible and impalpable, and that might be in heauen and earth and many distant places all at one time. secondly, that Christs body did not fill the place where­in it was. 3. That accidentes may subsist without foun­dation, or subiect. 4, that préestes may celebrate masse without communion. 5, that the préestes may take away the cuppe of the newe testament from Gods people. 6, that christians are to worship the crosse, and the sacrament with Latria, or diuine worship. 7, that the préest doth offer vp the true body and bloud of Christ to God the Father for the sinnes of quicke and dead. 8, that christians are iustified by greasing, which they call extreme vnction and by all other Romish sacraments. 9, that the Diuell is coniured out by the blasphemous Romish exorcismes. 10. that the pope is head and monarch of the Church. 11, that it is sinne to eate flesh vpon imbre dayes. 12, that the popes decrées are the foundation of the faith, and other such like points of popish doctrine,

10. If hee, be not able really, and playnly either to iustifie his owne cause, or to disproue ours; as he walketh by night himselfe, so he may do well to keepe his conceits secret, and to talke of them by night rather then by day. credit he can winne none by his vaine babling, rayling or lying.

Finally, either let him acquit himselfe like a braue fel­low, or els desist from his odious termes, of odious stuffe, paued faces, desperat dealing, treachery, legerdermain; Pag. 86.87.82. false packing, crafty conueyance, filthie fardle of fowle lyes, and such like. And let him not thinke, that he shall winne any thing with such courses. For nothing can be deuised more odious and desperate, then the cause of the wicked préestes of Baal. Neither did euer any sect vse more cogging, iugling, or lewd impostures, then the Papistes. to conclude this point, nothing is more easie, thē to declaime against the Pope, and the préestes of Baal, and their impostures, fraudes, vilenyes, superstitions, trecheries, blasphemies, and all their abomi­nations. I would therefore aduise this paltry fellow to be­ware▪ that he giue me not iust occasion to take the like course against his consorts. I assure him, I shall make all the [Page 76] packe of them infamous to posteritie.

In the second obseruation he saith further, that hee will touch one lye of mine, and that he saith, is knowne to be one, both to Spayne and Italy. But vnlesse Spayne and Italy doe vnderstand English in which toung I wrote, it can hardly be knowne to these two countries; vnlesse by Spayne and Ita­ly he vnderstand bastardly and vnnatural rinegat English, which are either Italianated, or turned Turke or Spanish, beside that it must néeds be a strangelye, that hath filled two so great contries, and not vnlike their phantasticall corpus domini, that is really in Spayne and Italy and euery altar, as the Papish fansie, at one time. Let vs therefore heare him tell this wondrous lye, and by his testimony the only lye of all my booke set out against these lying and traytorous war­deword, Page, 84. framed by Robert Parsons. He saith, that I affirme, that Cardinall Allen was in the Spanish armado (he should say armada) in the yeare 1588, and that I repeat it diuers times, and namely (as he quoteth in the margent) reply. p. 61. p. 98. &. 110. But what if I did not once name the Spanish armada, when I talke of Allans comming against his contry? was not this lying companion armed with a Vizor of impudency, where he talketh of lying, to lye so grossely? I hope his best frends will not deny it▪ well then let vs sée what my words are, that Owlyglasse taketh hold on. I say in my reply. p. 62. that an­no 1588. diuers rinegat English, and among the rest Cardinall Allen came with the Spaniardes to fight against their countrie. I say againe pag. 98. that Cardinall came with the Spaniardes anno. 1588. With fire and sword to destroy this lande. In my challenge p. 110. I say, cardinall Allen, and not so little as a hun­dred preistes came with the Spanish army. And out of these words he gathereth, that I say, he was in the spanish armada but he was blind, that could not sée, that there is great diffe­rence betwixt an army, and an armada, that signifieth a fléete; betwixt the Spanish forces, and the Spanish fléete. And a great wonder it is, that an hispaniolized english masse préest should no better vnderstand, either spanish or English. Although then, it were true, yt Cardinall Allen was not in the fléete: yet was he to come with the Spanish Armie. Neither is there [Page 77] any vntruth in my wordes, as appeareth by the testimony of Allen himselfe in his wicked libell, to the nobilitie and peo­ple of England and Ireland, where he writeth thus. I hope euerie man will be­leue Allen him­selfe, and his owne words, before the base fellow our ad­uersarie, that was not priuy to all his trea­sons. Thus much my good Lords and deare friends, I haue thought good to forewarne you, of the whole cause of these present sacred warres, and of his holinesse, and Catholike maiesties sincere in­tention therein, & both their incomparable affections towards our nation: whereof I could giue you farre more comfortable intelligence, if I were personally present with you, as I trust I shall be verie shortly. For that is fully meant by his holinesse, and by his maiestie, and of me so much desired, that euerie short day seemeth a long yeare, till I enioy you in our Lord. Note I pray you, that by the Popes speciall appointment and the king of Spaines good liking, that vnnaturall Cardinal was to come with the Spanish army against his countrey. Note also, how much this traytor desired this inuasion, and howe that he thought euery short day a yeare, vntill it was ac­complished.

He saith also, that the Pope preferred him to a high functi­on, intending to send him, as his legat with full commission and commandement to treate, and deale from time to time, as well with the states of the Realme, as with his holinesse and the kings maiestie for the sweeter managing of this godly, and great affaire. Doe you not sée, and is it not plaine by the Car­dinals owne confession, that this swéete Cardinall was ap­pointed a principall commander in that swéete action, wher­in he swéetly intended to cut our throates? And yet this sowre varlet in sowre termes giueth me the lie, for making him one of these inuadors, that meant to destroy this our na­tiue countrey, which all honest men (of which Owlyglasse is none) with all their power ought to defend against such trai­tors, as Allen was. But saith Owlyglasse, Card. Allen was neuer out of Italy, but eyther at Rome, or at Grotta Fe [...]rata. Suppose he were not, yet might he be of the party, and so farre engaged, as I related▪ for the Spanish forces and ar­my was not then drawne togither, but part was in the lowe countries, and France, and no small parts yet remaining in Italy and Spaine. And certes if the Cardinal was not come in [Page 78] person to the army; yet was he of the army, and to come with it, as appeareth, not onely by his owne wordes but al­so by the testimony of many others, that well knew it, and in not comming, he was to be taken as a desertor, and so to be punished. But yt he that was in the way towards England, and when he heard of the discomfiture of the Spanish fleete, turned aside to wéepe at Grotta Ferrata, deseruing rather to be strangled as a traytor in Cauea Ferrata, then to take the fresh ayre at Grotta Ferrata, if that were materiall, it will be verified by diuers priests, if they be asked on their othes. Why any man should beléeue this lying compagnion, that speaketh without proofe or probabilitie; there is neither co­lour, nor cause.

He excepteth also against that, which I say of the number of Priests, that were likewise to come with the Spanish ar­my, and thinketh that a hundred Priests could not then bee found; there being then but two Seminaries, Rome, and Rhemes, and not aboue fiftie in both. But he should be an e­loquent fellow, that could perswade me to beléeue that lying mate without all proofe. Why I should beleeue the contrary I can alleadge good reasons. For first, this being the ende of the erection of the Seminaries, to reduce England vn­derneath the Popes yoke; we are not to doubt, but that all the English of the Seminaries should haue béene emploi­ed in that action, and the whole sinke of treason let out.

Secondly, albeit in the Seminaries there were not so ma­ny Priests to be found; yet might that number haue béene filled vp by diuers other priests, that liued here and there dispersed. Her Maiesty hauing dismissed and banished a­boue fiftie priests, that deserued death by her lawes rather then banishment, not past two or thrée yeares before. These therefore and others should haue come into England. Nei­ther would that barking curre Stapleton haue fayled, if he could haue séene opportunitie to hurt those, against which he had so long barked. Thirdly, diuers priests now in Englād te­stifie, that many priests were to come with the Spanish for­ces. Finally, Allen in his wicked libell reporteth, that priests came with the Spanish forces to serue euerie mans [Page 79] spirituall necessities. But how could that be, vnlesse the num­ber were competent? Among the rest I am enformed, that R. Parsons should haue come with his assistants, and whole councell of reformation, and that to auoide idlenesse in the meane time he holpe to write and publish the most wicked declaration of Sixtus quintus against her Maiestie. It may be also, Owlyglasse had an ore, if not in the fléete, yet in the army, or els was in England to attend the comming of it. Let him therefore thanke God, that he is not sought out, and punished as a traytor, that endeuoureth to plead the cause of traytors. And let all indifferent men iudge, whether I haue not said truely, and he most falsely, both concerning Allen, and the Priests.

The third obseruation, as he saith, is, that my deali [...] doth declare the weakenesse of the cause I maintaine, the little conscience I possesse, and small learning I am maister of. For so it pleaseth our great maister Owlyglasse in a pang of po­pish zeale to rayle. And his reasons are, for that a good cause needeth not the helpe of lies, and a good conscience will not be strained beyond the limits of truth, and sinceritie, These venera­ble sentences, the execrable Iebusites and massepriests pare and pole most dispite­ously, as their poling indexes expurgatorie, and their trea­tises in the Popes cause plentifully de­clare. nor pare nor pole the venerable sentences of antiquitie, nor a man of learning frame such arguments, as flie ouer his aduersaries, and may be driuen backe vpon his owne head. And this he spea­keth standing vpon his tiptoes, and looking vpon himselfe very prowdly, and verily beléeuing, that he hath spoken ve­ry brauely, and almost eloquently. But if he had better loo­ked vpon himselfe, his conscience, and cause; he would haue extended more fauour to vs his poore friends, himselfe being a sot of 24. carats, and deuoid of all learning and consci­ence, hauing giuen proofe of his learning in his miserable de­tection, and hauing his conscience grounded on the cases of conscience resolued by Allen and Parsons, and Peter Nauarrus, that teach men against all conscience to play the villaines; and so a man stand for the Pope, to sweare and forsweare; and finally to doe what a man list, so he haue the Popes fa­culties for it. And what face had he to talke of sinceritie, his cause standing vpon falsifying of fathers, lying of legends, counterfaiting traditions, rayling vpon innocents, cogging [Page 80] of fabulous histories, and vpon deuising of fraudes and im­postures to abuse the world? His want of learning, I say, is proued by his weake and base talent of writing, wherein it appeareth he could not so much, as tell how to frame a sen­tence, or how to vnderstand the things he handleth. Allead­ging but two words of latin pag. 30. he sheweth he can no latin, vsing the plurall for the singular, saying prope initia, where a latinist would haue said prope initium, or rather in principio. quoting one verse he marreth it pag. 4. his testi­monies are Hierom Verdussen, and English almanacks, such proofes as a man may haue three or foure for a groate▪ his arguments are such, as I haue declared in my answere. His want of conscience may, I say, appeare by the most damna­ble resolutions of cases of conscience of Nauarrus, and other Romish casuistes, and especially the resolutions of Allen and Parsons, Vide resolut. casuum consci­entiae nationis Anglicanae, per A. & P. two rather diuels, then diuines, teaching nothing, but how their schollers may forsweare themselues, deny their names, and profession, and play the traitors: in which cases of conscience Owlyglasse without conscience séemeth to be well practised. The third is made manifest by the fabulous lies of Caesar Baronius, lying Romish legendes, counterfeit canons and writings lately published, and such euidence, as I shall in part hereafter discouer, and that to the great griefe of this detector, if he be not a man stupide altogether, and sencelesse.

This also doth touch the cause of poperie in generall. for if a good cause néede not to be supported with lies, and fa­bles; then is the Popes cause very bad, that cannot stande without lies. If a good conscience will not be strayned be­yond the limits of truth and sinceritie, nor pare nor pole the venerable sentences of antiquitie; then hath Bellarmine and Parsons no good conscience. For Parsons maketh no consci­ence to tell any lies, as I haue prooued in my answere to his woodden wardword, and the priestes haue notoriously proo­ued in all their bookes against him, and his trecherous fa­ction. Againe, then haue the Iebusites no conscience, that lie and falsifie according to the rules of their order, and that most shamefully, Le catechisme de Iesuites. as is proued in their Catechisme. Thirdly, [Page 81] then hath the Pope no conscience, that by his lewde, and trecherous indexes, and by his Talmudicall traditions, and peruerse expositions, hath taken a course to corrupt both scriptures and fathers. If they haue no learning, whose arguments conclude not effectually, but may be retorted backe vpon the faces of the proponentes; then if Owly­glasse be iudge, neither hath Bellarmine nor Stapleton any learning. For in diuers of our treatises, we haue made their arguments, to rebound backe vpon them.

As for my selfe, I referre my cause to be tried by any in­different man, that shall reade Owlyglasses obiections and my answeres. My conscience, and plaine dealing the iudge of all mens consciences doth best knowe, and I hope all the course of my writings will iustifie against all the cauils of such vaine banglers. My learning, I acknowledge, is not comparable to that, which many of my brethren haue, but yet I hope by the grace of God to maintaine a truth against the prowdest of the Popish faction. But were it neuer so sclender; yet vntill my bookes against Bellarmine be answe­red in that plaine and scholasticall sort, that I doe answere him; neither hath Owlyglasse, nor any of his consorts a­ny reason to despise it, or to obiect want of learning vn­to me.

Yet séeing hee doth vndertake to prooue, that I haue no learning; let vs sée, whether Owlyglasse hath any better suc­cesse in this, then in his former allegations concerning his supposed vntruthes and falsifications. First he saith, I bring such arguments to prooue the Papists to be no Catholikes, and to maintaine new doctrine, and heresie, as touch not them, but wound the Church of England. But if this had béen so, why doth not Owlyglasse vndertake to answere my arguments? why doth he not dare to refute my discourse? If they hurt the Church of England, no doubt, but such caterpillers as he, that séeke our hurt and ruine, would not haue omit­ted to take that aduantage. His wordes therefore are but vaine bragges, and néede no other refutation then his owne lewde performance in this encounter, and déepe silence in the rest.

Next he saith, he will take a scantling of my learning, no­thing answerable to my lookes, and countenance. But his scantling is very short, and vnproportionable, being but one onely argument. Beside that, it sheweth, that both learning and honestie is very scant with him. for where I go about to prooue, that the Church of Rome is not the true church of Christ, for that it wanteth true bishops, and Priests, the pal­frey fellow onely repeateth my wordes, whereby I prooue, that euery true Church hath true bishops and priests, but durst not set downe my wordes, whereby I shewe, that the Church of Rome hath neither true bishoppes, nor priests. And where he toucheth any reason of mine, he marreth it with his lewde handling, and mangleth my whole dis­course, omitting my thrée last reasons, and not daring to set them downe. I will therefore now let the ignorant ide­ot knowe, that my reasons, whereby I conclude, that the Church of Rome hath no true bishops nor priestes at this time, are strong and effectuall, and that his cauillations a­gainst my words, are vaine and friuolous.

First then I say, that no man hath ordinarie power to ordaine bishops or priestes, but he that is a bishop and a priest. But the Pope of Rome is neither true bishop, nor priest. ergo. the proposition our aduersarie denyeth not. The assumption I prooue by these arguments. First the Pope was ordained priest, but to offer sacrifices, and to say mas­ses for quicke and dead. But neither doth this ordinati­on make a priest, nor had true priests and elders euer any such ordination. That this ordination doth not make a priest, I prooue, for that thereby the ordained neither re­ceiue power to preach, nor to administer the sacraments, nor the keyes of the Church, wherein priesthood consisteth. If they receiue any thing, it is to offer sacrifice. But the Papists confesse, that there is great difference betwixt the sacrament of the Eucharist, and a sacrifice, as appeareth by Bellarmines large disputes. Lib. 1. & 2. de sacrif. missae. Further, this ordination doth not giue to priestes the right of apostolicall succession, which consisteth in preaching, and administring the sacraments, which our Sauiour committed to his Apostles, and their [Page 83] successours to the worldes ende, as appeareth by Christs wordes Matth. 28. that priests in auncient time neuer had any such ordination, it appeareth by the commission, that Christ gaue to his Apostles Matth. 28. by the office of Pa­stors described Ephes. 4. and 1. Tim. 3. and Tit. 1. where no mention is made of sacrificing for quicke and dead. neither doth this clause, hoc facite, in any author signifie, sacrifice for quicke and dead. It appeareth also by monuments of anti­quitie, and auncient formularies. In the 4. Councell of Carthage, priests are ordained by imposition of hands, but not to sacrifice for quicke and dead. This argument our ad­uersarie for all his contemptuous spéeches of my arguments durst not once touch.

Secondly, the Pope is not ordained, to teach or gouerne a certaine flocke, but to be the vniuersall bishop, Bellar. lib. 2. de pontif. Rom. c. 31. Prooem. Cle­ment. the head of the Church, the spouse of the Church, the foundation of the Church, and a little demy god vpon the earth, with power o­uer purgatorie, and the keyes of heauen, and hell. And if he haue not this power; then is he not Pope. But this power is no where deliuered by any good commission to a­ny. nor doth it belong to any bishop, for any thing we can yet learne. for if it did, then should all bishops haue that power. Owlyglasse therefore may doe well, to shewe vs this power out of scriptures and fathers. or els his silence will teach him, that the Pope is no bishop. Bellarmine tel­leth vs of, pasce oues meas: and, tibi dabo claues. But he must finde out a better commission for the Pope. or els all bishops will haue like power, and the pope will prooue to haue no power, vnlesse he féede, and haue the keyes of the Church. which by Owlyglasse, I am assured will not bee proued.

Thirdly, the Pope doth not féede the flocke by teaching, or administer the sacraments, or gouerne the Church, as o­ther bishops did, but contrariwise taketh vpon him to be Emperour, or gouernour of Rome, which the auncient bishops of Rome neuer did. But no man can be a King, and a bishop both together: nor a bishop without doing the office of a bishop. For Episcopatus, as the Apostle teacheth [Page 84] vs, That is, a worke, and not a title o [...] ho­no [...] is opus, and not onely, ho [...]os. Our aduersarie answe­reth, that it is Donatisme to affirme, that the efficacie of sacra­ments doth depend vpon the good, or bad life of the ministers, and that we are to harken to those, that sit in Moyses his chaire, albeit they be Pharisees, and bad men otherwise. And this he proueth by diuers testimonies out of S. Augustine, and the harmony of our confessions, being copious, where no néede is, and silent when he should answere. But all this is no more to purpose, then if he should tell vs a tale of a horse nest, or of the popes mules and mulets▪ for what is that to me, or others, that say not, that the Pope or popish bishops are not lawfull bishops, nor haue power to administer sa­craments, because they are Sodomites, adulterers, and wic­ked men, but rather, that the pope is no bishop at all, be­cause he doth not opus episcopi? He will perhaps say, he doth opus episcopi. But then he must shewe, that he fée­deth the flocke by teaching, and that he doth administer the sacraments of the Lords supper, and baptisme orderly, and ordinarily as other bishops doe: wherein I beléeue he will faile.

Fourthly, I haue proued, that the pope is Antichrist ad­uanced aboue all, that is called God, and the principall Pa­triarke of Antichrists kingdome. But light and darkenesse shall as soone concurre, as the tyrannie of Antichrist, and the office of a bishop in one person. I haue prooued, that he is Antichrist in my fift booke de Pontifice Rom. against Bellar. which because he so aboundeth in learning, and I haue none, I would pray him to answere with his great learning, and especially séeing it maketh so much for the cre­dit of his father the pope, that begot him on a strumpet the hore of Babylon, his maships mother. A braue fellow he is, no doubt, that is so well borne of father and mother. And if his stomack wil brooke no latin, let him refute my answere to Parsons wardword; if not all, yet so much as toucheth the Pope.

Finally, the Pope is an heretike, an apostata, and a most notorious simoniacal person, entring by brigues, and faction, and composition with the Spanish king, and cardinals, as is [Page 85] notorious to the world, and appeareth in euery cōclaue, and is not dissembled by popish writers▪ but such by canōs, albeit otherwise bishops, are suspended frō ordaining bishops, or cō ferring orders. That they are heretikes it cannot be de­nyed, vnlesse Owlyglasse can shew, that the points we haue handled in the 4. chapter of our former discourse, are no he­resies; which if he be able to shew, I doubt not, but the pope for his paynes will make him cardinall. That the Pops are apostatates, it apeareth for yt they haue declined from the ancient faith, as I haue likewise declared in my former chal­lenge. That they are simoniacal creatures, their buying and selling of the papacy, and of all ecclesiasticall liuings, of mas­ses, of sacraments, of faculties, doth manifestly declare, and that this is a common fault of Popes, it appeareth by their rules of chancerie by the Penitentiaries taxe, Vid. regul. Cancellar. & paenitent. by the glosses of their canons, by Albericus de Rosate in verbo, Roma: by Theodorica Niems treatise of schisme, by baptist of Mantua, and all stories, that write any truth. Neither is this a faulte of late crept into that see▪ quē dabis mihi de tota maxima vrbe saith Bernard lib. 4 de consid. ad Eugenium, quite in papam re­ceperit pretio, seu spe pretij non interueniente? He signifieth, that the Pope was chosen by simony, without simony certes no cardinall can sée to finde the Popes chayre.

By this it may also appeare, that the Romish church hath no true bishops, or priestes▪ for first they are ordained by the Pope, that is no bishop. Secondly the Bishops neither preach nor administer the sacraments, nor accompt that any parte of their episcopall function. Thirdly, Pope Ioane had noe power to ordeine Bishops or priestes being a woman. But all that haue liued in the Church of Rome along time haue béene ordeined by none, but such as were ordeined by her, or by bishops that were made by her. Fourthly, all préests are ordeined to sacrifice for quicke & dead. As appeareth by Ma­chabeus, in lib. de missis episcoporum pro ordinibus conferen dis. Bellarmine also saith, yt preistes are made by these words, accipe potestatem offerendi sacrificlum: that is, receiue power to offer sacrifice. Which is no sufficient ordination, nor gi­ueth préestes power either to preach or administer sa­craments, [Page 86] but rather a power in ancient time neuer belon­ging to préests, as I haue proued against Bellarmine in my booke de sacrificio missae. Fiftly no simoniacall persons or he­retikes haue power to order others; and if they doe it, their ordination by canons is declared voyd, & they are pronoun­ced irreguler▪ and this I thinke Owlyglasse will not deny▪ but he will answere percase that the Popish bishops are neither heretikes, nor simonicall persons let him therefore, if he will make his answere good, make answere to my obiections con­cerning the heresies, and simonyes of the Church of Rome. Sixtly, the popish bishops are all slaues of Antichrist, as ap­peareth by their slauish oth. c. ego. N. de iureiurando. If then the pope be proued Antichrist, and the aduersary of Christ, and his Church: his adherents cānot be déemed true bishops. Finally, albeit the Popish Church had a certaine forme of ordination, and bishops and préestes so called; yet nether can the ordination be accoūted lawful being contrary to canons nor can they be déemed true bishops and priests, that neither preach that, which Christ commanded, nor obserue his com­mission, nor administer the sacramēts according to Christs institution. Oftentimes also the Pope hath ordeined boyes, ignorant persons vtterly vncapable of episcopall function, bishops and preests. And such being so ordeined neuer did a­ny part of ministeriall function, if then the Romish Church be like her bishops; then as she hath false and defectiue bis­shops, so is shee a false and defectiue Church. But saith Ow­lyglasse, Pag [...]2. the councell of Trent hath made such holsome decrees, concerning the diligent and often teaching and preaching of bi­shops, and preests, as Master Sutcliffe can finde no iust cause of complainte. But if he had let downe these wholsome decrées, he would haue béene much ashamed of the decrées themselues and more of the slender exequution of them. For Concil. Trid. Sess. 5, c. 2. they decrée, that bishops shall teach by thēselues, or others▪ so yt by this rule women may be préests▪ for they may teach by others, & this may be fulfilled, if bishops neuer teach at all. Beside that we doe not reade, that the first bishops of Rome, did preach by others, or set vp louzy fryers, to prate in pulpits as now is the fashion of the Romish Church. Our [Page 87] Sauiour Christ bad his Disciples preach themselues, or els he would not haue sent them. And S. Peter preacheth him­selfe, and vsed no deputation for the matter, as now the Ro­manistes doe▪ furthermore now the execution of this lawe is so neglected, that I doe not beléeue, that Owlyglasse, albeit he hath well frequented all corners of Rome, hath heard the pope preach. And when the old Cardinall of Lorrein offerd to preach, he was derided for his labor, of all his compagniōs, so vnséemly a thing it séemeth for a Cardinal, & bishop to preach.

He answereth further. That I would be loth that our church should continue no longer, then bishops doe their duties in preaching and feeding. But he doth wrong our bishops to compare them to Romish prelats, that neither preach, nor thinke that preaching belongeth to them, and for the most parte, vnlesse it be some frier or foxe inroabed with bishops apparell, preach not, nor speake more then stockes and ima­ges in Churches. He doth also mistake me much, if he thinke, that I conclude, that any congregation is not the true church, where bishops doe not their duties. For that is no part of my meaning▪ but I say, that the true Church cannot longe want true bishopes, and teachers, and that therfore the Ro­mish Church is not the true Church, hauing no bishops, nor préestes at all, but in name. And that I proued, for that they wanted true priesthood, and true ordination, and were or­dayned and sent by antichrist, by heretikes and simoniacall persons, and such as had no authority to ordayne, or sende forth bishops and preestes.

He answereth finally, that I haue no reason to carpe at the Romish clergie for their bad life▪ and lacke of learning, seeing, Pag. 96. our Church, as he saith, admitteth most base, lewd, & vnlearned artisās. & this he indeuoureth to proue by M. Parries words in his preface before Vrsinus his catechisme. But he lyeth like a lewde and base fellow, if he suppose, that such are admitted by our Church▪ they do thrust in, I confesse, by ye abuse of sōe on, or more▪ but ye church alloweth thē not▪ nay there are ca­nōs made, that none is to be ordained minister, but bachilars of art, or men otherwise well qualified and knowne to be able to teach. If any doe otherwise by indirect meanes come into [Page 88] the ministery, which abuse Master Parry noteth; yet I hope they are not so rude, or so lewde, as masse Preests, which are the scumme of all vileny for the most part, as those that tra­uell Spayne and Italy knowe by practise, and our rinegat English masse Preestes by their lewdnesse and insufficiency playnly proue.

Hauing answered according to his best skill, and broken as he thinketh all our bonds, like Dalilaes cords (though some of his friends say, that a certeine Dalila hath strong hold of him) he goeth about to retort this argument vpon vs, and saith: if the true Church hath alwayes true bishops and preests, that the Church of England, Pag 100. is not the true Church, as wanting true preestes and bishops. And with this argument hee ho­peth to giue vs such a drie shauing, as he doubteth not, but he will marre the whole beauty thereof▪ but he sheweth himselfe to be but a simple barber, and a worse drie shauer▪ for nowe he cannot shew, but that we haue true bishops, hauing both lawfull ordination, and our bishops exequuting the office of bishops loyally, and orderly. Before this reformation also our bishops had all that, which our aduersaries thinke necessary in the outward calling of bishops. Besides that there fayled not among our bishops and préestes at all times diuers men, which detested the abominations of the Roma­nistes, as Robert Grosted bishop of Lincolne, Richard Vllerston that liued about the councell of Constance, Iohn wicleffe and diuers others. But saith he, who layd hands on bishop Par­ker. He séemeth also to make the like question of Luther and Zuinglius. I answere that bishop Couerdale and Skory, and others which were bishops in King Edwardes time layde hands vpon bishop Parker. I confesse also, that bishop Cran­mer, Luther and Zuinglius had an externall calling, though corrupt, & in a corrupt state, yet such as Owlygalsse dare not deny to be sufficient. And beside that externall calling, it pleased God to reuele to them his will extraordinarily, and to call them out of Babylon to the knowledge of his truth▪ our aduersary therefore of all men hath least reason to challenge them for their calling. Beside that he cannot conclude, be­cause that externall calling was then thought sufficient, that [Page 89] now the popish Church hath a calling sufficient. For albeit the préestes of the Iewes, that worshiped Baal, had an exter­nall calling, which was not disabled, when they returned to the true worship of God; yet was not their Idolatrous ser­uice doon to Baal, nor that preesthood lawful▪ the like wee may say of masse préests. They should haue serued God aright, yet whē they serued at their massing alters, they worshipped strange Gods. But when they left their Idolatrie, then their calling tooke effect they doing that, for which they were principally called. Furthermore he cannot say, because now all Idolatry and superstition being abandoned, we are the true church, that the papists that reteine still their superstitiōs are the true church▪ for ye true church is tryed by true faith, true worship, and seruice of God, & not by externall rites and cere­monies, and succession without Gods true worship or the true faith. Owlyglasse would also gladly haue me to set down the names of those bishops, that gouerned our Church euer since Christ. As if all bishops, that mayntained the Apos­tles créede, and catholike faith, were not our bishops. If they digressed from the faith, we are not to séeke for a new ranke of bishops, but to acknowledge them to be true bishops, that professed the true faith. He talketh also of my being at Cales, but it is more honesty for me to goe in the seruice of my Prince and contry against forreine enemies, then for him with forreine enemies like a disloyal traytor to fight against his prince and contry, and like a base slaue to serue the popes turne. And this may serue to iustifie my argument against the popish préesthood.

It resteth now, that I answere his friuolous obiections concerning some points which he supposeth to conteine mat­ter of contradiction: which he vanteth, that hee will handle to the little commendation of my learning, as he saith. But if he would indéede haue disgraced me, he should haue taken in hand the aunswere of some latine treatise which I haue pub­lished against Bellar. For therein he might haue shewed ler­ning, whereas this discourse concerning falsifications and vntruthes is nothing but a little fardle of foolery, and a vaine bable for his clients to sport themselues with all. Well in [Page 90] the meane while let vs know his worships pleasure concer­ning these supposed contradictions.

First he chargeth me with saying, that the number of se­uen sacraments was not certainly established, nor receiued be­fore the late councell of Trent: and this he supposeth to be contrarie to that, which I affirme in another place, viz. that the iust number of seuen sacraments, and neither more nor lesse, was first deliuered by the councell of Florence vnder Eu­genius the fourth, and afterward confirmed by the councell of Trent. But the poore ideot doth rather bewray his owne ig­norance, that knew not how this doctrine of seuen sacra­ments crept into the Romish church, and great dulnesse, that could not distinguish betwixt instructions, and canons; tal­king or mentioning matters, and confirming them by solemne act and decree. To reforme his errour therefore, I must let him vnderstand, that the conuenticle of Florence did not by any solemne canon establish the iust number of seuen sacra­ments, but certaine idle Friers, or others in that conuenti­cle, or at the least vnder the credit thereof, deliuered this do­ctrine of seuen sacraments to the Armenians. Furthermore, not all Churches, but the Armenians had this doctrine deli­uered vnto them. I speake therefore warily, where I say, that albeit that doctrine was talked of perhaps, and deliuered to the Armenians; yet it was first confirmed by solemne act of the conuenticle of Trent, and so receiued of as many, as liked that conuenticle. So I may say likewise, that the pa­radoxe of the Romish church concerning the subsistence of ac­cidents in the sacrament without subiect was prated of, and debated in schooles before the conuenticle of Constance; but yet I may say also, that it was not receiued generally, nor by solemne act confirmed before the cōuenticle of Constance, where Pope Iohn the 23. was deposed for Sodomitrie, A­theisme, and other grieuous and enormous crim [...]s in the actes of that assembly recorded.

Secondly, he would gladly finde some contradiction in my wordes, for that pag. 21. I say, as he setteth it downe, that the opinion of Luther concerning the real presence con­cerneth not any fundamentall point of faith, and yet pag. 54. [Page 91] of my Challenge, affirme, that the Papists holding transubstan­tiation doe bring in Eutychianisme, teaching that Christs body is in the sacrament without visible shape, or true dimension, or circumscription; which as Leo teacheth serm. 6. de ieiunio 7. mensis, is flat Eutychianisme. But he striueth in vaine to force contradiction out of these wordes▪ for papists may wel be Eutychianists, and yet not Luther, as I beléeue, they tea­ching that the substance of bread is abolished in the sacra­ment (of which followeth Eutyches his errour) and Luther holding the contrarie. For if the bread be abolished, and the sacrament is like to the person of Christ, consisting of two natures; then it followeth, that as bread remaineth not in the sacrament after consecration, so Christs humanitie is a­bolished after the vnion of the two natures: which is flatte Eutychianisme. Further, he was a simple fellow, to leaue a charge of Eutychianisme vpon the Papists, vpon a smal hope of taking me in contradiction. Indéede I confesse, he deny­eth it in termes, and saith, that Christs body in the sacrament is not without shape, and true dimensions. He should also haue said circumscription, if he would haue auoided the note of Eutychianisme. but if that be so, he dischargeth me of con­tradiction. But in the meane while, he sheweth himselfe to be ignorant of the state of his owne cause, and very impu­dent to say, that Christ his body hath all his true dimensions, and shape in the sacrament▪ which at large is disprooued in my treatise de missa against Bellar. Finally, going about to take me in contradiction, like a falsarie hee doth alter my wordes, and peruert my meaning. For I say onely, Reply pag. 21. that Luthers and Caluins priuat opinions, concerning either princes soueraigne authoritie, or the real presence concerne not funda­mentall points of faith. And my reason is first, for that our faith is not built on priuat mens opinions, as the faith of the papists, that are bound to beléeue all the determinations of euery Pope, that doe concerne the faith. And secondly, for that Luthers opinion is not hereticall in it selfe, and as it may be expounded, but by inference of such conclusions as follow of it.

His thirde supposed contradiction is forced out of my [Page 92] wordes, where I say, that the Fathers make against Bellar­mine, and yet séeme, to make Gelasius and Gregorie Papists, that liued aboue a thousand yeares agone. But herein is nei­ther contradiction, nor repugnance. For first it will not be proued, that either Gregorie or, Gelasius maketh for Bellar­mine in their authenticall writings. Secondly, these two are not for antiquity or learning to be compared to Hierome, or Augustine, or the Fathers, that liued in their time, and be­fore. Finally, albeit the dialogues, that go vnder the name of Gregorie, or the decrée of Gelasius C. sancta dist. 15. did sa­uour of the pumpe of Poperie, and fopperie; yet that ma­keth nothing for the papists. For it shall neuer be proued, that Gregorie did write so foppish fables and lies as are con­tained in his dialogues; nor that Gelasius did indéede set downe all that decree, that is reported C. sancta. dist. 15. es­pecially that of lying and fabulous legends. Neither, if in any one point, or ceremony Gregorie, or Gelasius doth differ from vs; is he therefore to be reputed to speake wholy for the papists. But saith Owlyglasse, we may as truely inferre, that seeing the protestants doe with great applause admit the actes of their holy Martyres written by M. Foxe, they receiue fabulous martyrologies, and lying legends, as it is inferred that Papists receiue fabulous martyrologies and lying legends▪ but the case is so vnlike, as Owlyglasse though a ridiculous fel­low is vnlike to Gelasius▪ for neither doe we reade our mar­tyrologies in churches, as the papists doe their legends; nor doe we beléeue them as grounds of faith, as the papists doe their legendicall traditions, nor doth M. Foxe report any such abominable and ridiculous fables, as are contained in the Romish legends. But all this notwithstanding if Ow­lyglasse will impudently still compare our martyrologies with the lying legends; let him shew, if he can, where M. Foxe telleth tales of men walking without heads, talking without tongues, passing the sea without shippes, going in­uisible, restoring of birdes to life, of a cowe bellowing being boyling in a cauldron, of remoouing mountaines and such like, as are in the legends very common, and must be beléeued as ecclesiastical traditions.

His fourth obseruation is, that it were a point of some cun­ning to guesse by my writings, of what religion I am. But it is a point of small cunning to guesse, that Owlyglasse is a man of no religion, making no conscience to snatch at any thing, that may serue his turne, though neuer so false; to lie, to falsifie, to rayle at all, that are not of his damned humor. If any religion he haue, it is some reliques of poperie, which he notwithstanding is neither well able to vnderstand, nor any way to defend. A religion (if we may call faction a re­ligion) most fond, foppish, absurd, vaine, superstitious, false and impious, as partly in this treatise is declared, and shall God willing more at large be declared other-where. As for my selfe I doe him to wit, that I am a Christian, and a true Catholike, beleeuing the Apostolike faith, and professing the same, as it is set downe in the Apostles créede, in the confes­sions of faith published in the foure first generall councels, and in the créede of Athanasius. I doe also beléeue whatsoe­uer is expressed in holy canonicall scriptures, or may be de­duced out of them, and I doe detest all popish superstition, blasphemy, hereticall abhominations, and all other heresies▪ and this Owlyglasse might well haue vnderstood by all the course of my writings, if he had read them, or would or could vnderstand them. But saith Owlyglasse, Page, 110. on the one side, reason there is, to thinke him a conformable protestant, &c. Afterward he talketh his pleasure of new Geneua Iigs, and of harmony puritanicall. Which course of rayling, if he doe continue, there is good hope, that to accorde with this Iigge, he may ere it be long, sing a base de profundis at Ti­burne. To the matter I answere, that in England, albeit there hath béene some difference betwéene priuat persons a­bout ceremonies and gouernment, and that without disa­gréement in religion; yet now all that quarrell, to the great griefe of Owlyglasse and his consorts is ended, and all godly christians iointly concurre to the repressing of the seditious massepriests, and their adherents, that by faction, and here­sie seeke to vndermine both the Church, and state.

In this obseruation he goeth about also to prooue, that I doe not séeme to allow the doctrine established in this church [Page 94] of England. But as in the rest, so in this Owlyglasse doth but trifle. I doe holde, I confesse, that baptisme is not so ne­cessarie, but that diuers may, and haue beene saued without it, especially where there is no contempt committed in procuring it. Further I doe beléeue, that it is vnlawfull for women to take vpon them to administer baptisme; and doe aduise in case of extremitie all christians to procure the ministers presence. Thirdly, I doe vtterly condemne the doctrine of the papistes concerning their limbus patrum. Fourthly, I doe much mis­like their superstitious stationary obambulations about the limits of parishes for the blessing of new corne, and their su­perstitious letanies and ceremonies vsed in the fame. Fift­ly, I deny, that euer the catholike church had any precepts, or canons to forbid mariages on such daies, and in such sort, and for such respects, as the Romish Church doth practise. Sixtly, I doe beléeue, that Luthers opinion absolutely consi­dered in it selfe is not a fundamentall point of religion, es­pecially if we giue his wordes a fauourable construction. Fi­nally, I accompt none to be true christians and professours, that make no conscience of sinne, and liue not according to their profession. But what of all this? doe I therefore teach contrarie to any point of doctrine maintained by the church of England? so Owlyglasse my good friend would insinuate. But his proofes are simple, and his assertions most false. He saith, Page, 111. that the Church of England teacheth, that baptisme is necessarie to saluation. But the booke, which he alleadgeth, out of which he cannot bring one word to prooue his saying, doth conuince him both of lying, and impudencie. Secondly he affirmeth, that to deny womens baptisme is contrarie to re­ligion established. But it is not contrarie to his religion to lie and face out lies most impudently. Thirdly to prooue, that our church beléeueth limbus patrum, he should haue allead­ged our confession, and not a certaine verset of the créede in méeter. Beside that, in that verset nothing is said, but that Christ illuminated those, that sate in darknesse; which is no­thing to limbus patrum, a place, that cannot be illuminated, as papistes holde. Further, that verset may be rather an ex­position of the words of the song of Zacharie, Luke, 2. of the illumina­tion [Page 95] of the ignorant, and of the like wordes of the Prophet Esay chap. 9. then an assertion of limbus pactum. Fourthly, the papists in their perambulations of parishes vse to blesse, or rather to exorcise corne, and to say most wicked litanyes. They vse also diuers superstitious ceremonies, which vn­lesse Owlyglasse prooue to be allowed by our Church, he will prooue himselfe a cogging compagnion. Fifthly, he talketh of prohibitions of the solemnizations of mariages at certaine times; but he alleadgeth neither lawe, nor record to prooue, that our Church alloweth either the doctrine, or the ceremo­nies of the Romish congregation in this point. And there, whither he sendeth vs, we finde nothing, but the testimonie of an Almanacke. Sixtly, albeit the church of England doth not holde Luthers real presence of Christes body in the sa­crament, yet cannot the detractor shewe, but that his opini­on may be reconciled with the Christian faith, if a man will not vrge those points, that follow of that doctrine too seuere­ly, and further percase, then at the first Luther himselfe al­lowed them. If a man doe gather what doth followe of it, then is the doctrine dangerous, as I and others con­fesse.

Finally, he doth not so much as go about to shewe, that I haue deliuered any thing contrary to the doctrine of our Church, where I affirme, that good life is as well required in a true professour, as true faith. Why then is this point touched in this place? Doth it grieue him, that I touch the filthy Sodomiticall priests, and friers, and shut that abho­minable generation out of Gods church? It séemeth so▪ and therefore to requite me, he saith, that this doctrine may touch me, for that I haue falsified and maliciously corrupted the fathers. But if I haue cleared my selfe of all those matters, that he hath laide to my charge; I hope the vanitie of his collection will manifestly appeare to all indifferent men. But hee poore ideot, appeareth not: but séeing the Romish Church, and diuers of her principall pillers to be charged with notorious lies and falsifications, passeth away in si­lence, and is not able to answere one worde. Nay, hee leaueth his clients in the briers, and signifieth, for ought [Page 96] he can doe, they must pleade for themselues.

Wherefore to leaue off further to vrge this distressed fol­lowe, that is able to say nothing for the defence of them, whom he doth principally fauour, I may well conclude, sée­ing the arguments which I brought in my Challenge stand immooueable, and the detectors exceptions are prooued to be vaine, and friuolous, first, that the Romish church is not the true Church of Christ Iesus. Secondly, that the religion of Papists, is neither auncient, nor catholike, Thirdly, that all papists maintaining the doctrine of the Pope, and his ad­herents, are heretikes. Fourthly, that such as embrace po­pish religion, are idolaters. Fifthly, that all the Popes ad­herents and agents that haue suffered for his cause in En­gland, are to be reputed no better, then disloyall traytors, and not, as some would haue it, Martyres. Finally, that my aduersary by his friuolous obiections hath much con­firmed, and strengthened our cause, against which he was not able to obiect any one thing of moment; and iustified my allegations, being not able to take any iust ex­ception against any thing said by me, nor to obiect any thing, which is not fully answered.

CHAP. IIII. Of diuers falsities committed by the Popes and Church of Rome.

IF our aduersarie had well remem­bred his promise, he ought not onely to haue conuinced me of vntruthes, corruptions, contradictions, and falsi­fications, according to the title of his pamphlet, but also of maliciousnesse, and wilfulnesse. for so he vaunteth, he will. I challenge the challenger saith he, of many malicious vntruthes, Cap. 1. pag. 8. and many palpable and wilfull falsifications. But when it com­meth to performance; of corruptions he saith nothing, con­tradictions he toucheth slenderly, vntruthes and falsifications he can by no meanes fasten vpon me. The qualitie of mali­ciousnes and wilfulnesse being a matter purposed, and fully promised, he vtterly forgot. In the rest how poorely he hath demeaned himselfe, by my answere to his whole dispute it will appeare, But suppose I had either mistaken a report, misalleadged a place; yet that is nothing to the cause, which by priuat mens errors cannot be eyther charged, or pre­iudiced.

But if the Pope of Rome, to whom the papists flie in all controuersies and extremities commit falsifications; then is the cause of poperie quite ruined, and ouerthrowne. For he is the Sanders Rock. & Bellar. in praefat. in lib. de pontif. rocke, and Bellar. ibid. & lib 2. de pon­tif. Rom. & Stapleton do­ctrinal. princip. foundation, vpon whom the papists build all their religion. Againe, if the Church of Rome haue practised these falsifications, then is no trust to be giuen to [Page 98] her. If both the Pope himselfe, and the Church of Rome doe deliuer vnto vs lyes, and fables; then is the pope no vpright iudge, but a lying hypocrite, and the Church of Rome is not the true Church, nor a mistris of truth, but a mistresse of er­rors and lyes.

Let vs therefore sée whether the pope or Church of Rome may not in this poynt be more iustly charged then we, and whether they be cleare of this fault or no. For that is a point farre more materiall, then any thing, which the aduersary can deuise against vs. Let vs also consider how Bellarmine & Baronius and others the Popes agents haue acquited them­selues in their narrations, and allegations. For so it may best appeare, how vnaduisedly this detector began his qua­rell. our aduersaries being so notorious offenders in telling vntruthes, and committing most grosse and wicked forgeryes, and wée so cleare and innocent, at the least from all willfulnesse violence and malice, if not from error.

L. qui testamē ­tum. ff. ad. leg. Corneliam de falsis. Whosoeuer shall conce [...]e or hide away a testament, or take it from a man, or shall blot it, or adde by interlining, or else shall forge, or write a false testament, or exhibite it, or signe it, or vse it and fraudulently reherse it, is punishable, as guiltie of forgery by the lawe Cornelia, concerning forgery and falsitie. And this is the determination of Paulus the lawyer, and al­lowed by all men of vnderstanding, and iudgement in law. Qui testamentum amouerit, celauerit, eripuerit, deleuerit, inter­leuerit, subiecerit, resignauerit, saith Paulus the lawyer, quiue testamentum falsū scripserit, signauerit, recitauerit. &c. legis cor­neliae Poena damnatur. Those also are guilty, and by this law punishable, Ibidem. quorum dolo malo id factum est: by whose pro­curement, and fraude any of the foresaid points are committed. But the pope, and Church of Rome many wayes offen­de against this lawe, as is most euidente by many par­ticulers.

falsification 1 First they do suppresse, as much as they can, the eternall testament of almightie God conteined in the bookes, which we for this cause call the old and new testament. For simply do they prohibit all translations of scriptures made by any [Page 99] of our doctors, & not without streite limitatiōs do they permit chr [...]stiās to haue scriptures translated into vulgar tonges by thēselues, publikely by no meanes will they haue scriptures red being translated into tonges vnderstood of the multitude. And all these thrée points are manifestly proued by the index of prohibited bookes set out by Pius quartus, and by the decrée of the councell of Trent speaking of our mens translations. li­brorum veteris testamenti versiones viris tantum pijs & doctis, Index. lib pro­hib. regul 3. saith he, iudicio episcopi concedi poterunt. And afterwarde: versiones noui testamenti &c. nemini concedantur. Speaking of vulgar translations of scriptures, Ibid. regula. 4. he saith hac in parte iu­dicio episcopi, aut inquisitoris stetur, vt cum consilio parochi, vel confessarij bibliorum a catholicis authoribus versorum lec­tionem in vulgari lingua concedere possint. So it appeareth they first absolutely forbidde al vulgar translations made by any of our doctors; and Secondly with harde conditions grant licence, & that to very few, to reade their owne vulgar translations of scriptures: and Thirdly, that they doe forbid all latin translations made by vs of the new testament, and with conditions and limitations permit our translations of the old testament, to be read, and that of very few. Concil Trid. Sess. 22. c. 9. In pub­like liturgies of the Church they also signifie, that scriptures are not to be read in vulgar tongues. And by their practise we gather, that they thinke the publike reading of scriptures in vulgar tongues to be nothing for their profit, and purpose. Who then seeth not, that by al meanes the pope and Romish Church endeuore to suppresse Gods testament, and shew themselues therein notorious falsaries?

falsification 2 Secondly they burne the holy scriptures vnder pretence of false translations, as may be prooued by diuers witnesses, and by their owne practise. And I thinke they will not deny, but that they haue burned scriptures trāslated by our doctors & wil defend it. yet to corrupt, or teare, or spoyle a testament, is the part of a falsary, as these wordes declare, si quis test [...] ­mentum deleuerit. Neither could the lawe speake more playnely against Papistes vnlesse, it had sayd, si quis testa­mentum dei combusserit.

falsification 3 Thirdly, they haue depriued the Lords people of the cup, [Page 100] which our Sauiour Christ calleth the newe testament in his bloud. hic est calix, saith he, nouum testamentum in sanguine meo. Luc. 22. In the conuenticle of Constance they decrée, vt sacra­mentum a laicis sub vna specie tantummodo recipiatur. that is, Sess. 13. that lay men are to receiue the sacrament onely vnder one kinde. In the conuenticle of Trent they pronounce them Anathema, or accursed, that shall say, that the faithfull ought to receiue the sacrament vnder both kinds, Sess. 21. c. 1. & 2. or that shal denie, that they tooke away the cuppe from the communicants, and ministred the communion vnder one kinde onely. for iust, and reasonable causes. Whether then the Lords cup be the new testament, or the seale of the new testament; it is euident, that the Pope and Church of Rome doe shew themselues to be notorious falsaryes. the words of the law are cleare. si quis testamentum celauerit, amouerit &c. that is, whosoeuer doth concele or keepe a testament out of the way, he is to be puni­shed as a falsary. the same also is apparant, for that they goe about to breake▪ the seale of Gods testament. And al­though man cannot, or will not punish this falsity in the Romish Church, and in the masse préests; yet God will as­suredly punish so notorious a falsification of his eternall tes­tament.

falsification 4 Fourthly, the Pope and Romish Church haue added to Gods eternall testament corrupting the same by their tradi­tions, and makg ivnnwritten traditions equall to the cano­nicall scriptures. omnes libros tam veteris, quam noui testa­menti, Sess. 4 concil. Trid. say the Popes slaues assembled at Trent, cum vtrius (que) vnus deus sit author, nec non traditiones ipsas tum ad fidem tum ad mores pertinentes; tanquam vel oretenus a Christo, vel a spiritu sancto dictatas, &c. pari pietatis affectu ac reueren­tia suscipit ac veneratur, scilicet haec synodus. and afterward they pronounce al [...] cursed, Lib. de verbo Dei. that shall contēne the sayd traditions. Bellarmine also and the rest of his consorts teach, that there is one word of God written, and another vnwritten, and that both are of equall authority. But it is playne falsity to forge any part of a testamēt, Galat. 3. or to interline it, or to adde to it. hominis testamentū saith the Apostle, nemo spernit, aut super ordinat. that is, no man addeth to a testament, or taketh on [Page 101] him to superordinate or set downe more, then is declared by the testators will. And he signifieth, that it is much more odious, to adde to Gods testament, and as it were with pre­tended nuncupatiue additions to corrupt Gods writen will and testament. Qui testamentum falsum scripserit, signauerit, recitauerit dolo malo saith Paulus, L. qui testamē ­tum. ad. L. Cornel de falsis. cuiusue dolo malo id fac­tum erit, legis corneliae, (de falsis) poena damnatur. Againe, si quis legatum sibi ascripserit, saith Africanus tenetur poena le­gis corneliae. So if the Romish Church haue added to Gods eternall testamēt, any traditions vpon the credit of ye church, L. siquis lega­tum. ff. ad. L. cornel. de falsis. and made them parte of Gods testament, or meane to re­ceiue benefit, or as it were a legacie, or authoritie by any thing therein contained, the same is guilty of falsification.

falsification 5 Fiftly the Romish Church hath committed falshood by ma­king the old latin translation authenticall, which differeth in many poynts from the originall bookes, of the old and new testament. Statuit & declarat saith the conuenticle of Trent speaking of it selfe, vt haec ipsa vetus & vulgataeditio quae lon­go tempore tot seculorum vsu in ipsa ecclesia probata est, Sess. 4. in pub licis lectionibus, disputationibus, praedicationibus, & expo­sitionibus pro authentica habeatur. Now that this translation doth differ from the originall bookes, it cannot bée denyed. For that by collation of both is apparent. Beside that it is proued by the testimony of Isidorus Clarius in his preface to his translation of the Bible: of Erasmus, and diuers other learned men; and sometime confessed by the aduersaries thē ­selues. that this is falshood, it is proued, for that to exhibit a false copie of a testament, is falsity. It is also a noto­rious absurdity to preferre a translation, or a copy before the originall.

falsification 6 Sixtly, it is falsity, to adde to the rule of faith, or canon of scriptures. For if a man may not add to the rules and lawes of men, but he shall falle within the danger of the law corne­lia de falsis, much lesse may a man adde to the rule of faith, and canon of scripture, Concil. Trid. Sess. 4. but he shall bee condemned for falsifica­tion. But the Church of Rome hath in two sorts added to the rule of faith, first making the bookes of Tobias. Iudith, Ecclesiasticus, Wisedome, the Machabees, and others by the [Page 102] councell of Laodicea and Hierome and other auncient Fa­thers excluded out of the canon, canonicall, and next by ma­king the Popes determinations, and vnwritten traditions the rule of faith, as is proued by Stapletons discourse de do­ctrinalibus principijs, and other treatises of the Romanistes, concerning that argument. Neither hath the Romish Sy­nagogue any thing to alleadge in excuse of her falsitie, but that such bookes haue sometime béene accompted canonicall by the councell of Carthage, Can. 47. and S. Augustine: and next, that traditions haue béene much stood vpon by the auncient Fa­thers. But the third councell of Carthage and S. Augustine speake onely of the bookes of the Bible, that were publikely read, and of the canon, as it prescribed a rule for the reading of bookes, and not otherwise, and by tradition they meane no other doctrine, then that which is contained in holy scrip­tures; and gathered out of them.

falsification 7 7. Either hath Sixtus Quintus, or Clement the 8. egregi­ously falsified the holy scriptures. For both of them hauing taken vpon them to set out the same according to the olde la­tin translation, we finde in diuers places, either manifest contradictions, or at the least notorious differences betwixt them. As for example, Gen. 4. the Clementine edition hath, in foribus pettatum aderit? In Sixtus Quintus his edition set out at Louain peccatum tuum aderit? Gen. 5. v. 3. Clement rea­deth, genuit ad imaginem & similitudinem suam: Sixtus hath, genuit filium ad imaginem. Contrariwise Genes. 1.27. Cle­ment readeth, creauit deus hominem ad imaginem suam, ad imaginem dei creauit illum: and Sixtus hath, creauit deus ho­minem ad imaginem, & similitudinem suam, ad imaginem dei &c. Genes. 9. Clement readeth, de manu viri & fratris eius re­quiram: Sixtus hath onely, & de manu fratris eius requiram. Exod. 16. Clement readeth, cur eduxistis nos in desertum istud? Sixtus contrariwise readeth, cur induxistis? Exod. 23. Cle­ment readeth, victimae meae: and Sixtus, victimae tuae. Leuit. 27. Clement readeth, iuxta aestimationem tuam: Sixtus, iuxta aestimationem suam. and it the 28. verse of the same chapter, Clement readeth, non vendetur; and Sixtus, non veniet. Deut. 24. Clement readeth, animam opposuit tibi, Sixtus, apposuit [Page 103] tibi. Deut. 29.19. Clement readeth, & absumat ebria sitientem: Sixtus readeth, assumat ebria sitientem. Iosue 11.19. Clement readeth, non fuit ciuitas, quae se traderet; and Sixtus quite con­trarie, quae se non traderet. 2. Reg. 6. v. 13. These words, that are found in Sixtus his edition: dixit (que) Dauid, ibo & reducam arcam cum benedictione in domum meam: are not found in Clements bible. 2. Reg. c. 15.23. Clement readeth, contra vi­am, quae respicit ad desertum. Sixtus readeth, contra viam oli­uae. 2. Reg. 16.1. Clement hath, & vtre vini. Sixtus readeth, duobus vtribus. 3. Reg. 7.9. Clement hath, extrinsecus vsque. Sixtus, intrinsecus vsque. 1. Paralip. 8. v. vlt. Clement readeth, vsque ad centum quinquaginta omnes. Sixtus readeth, ad cen­tum quinquaginta millia. lib. 1. Ezrae c. 2. v. 66. Clement rea­deth, septingenti triginta sex: Sixtus, sexcenti triginta sex. Sa­pientiae c. 2.11. Clement hath, sit fortitudo lex iustitiae nostrae. Sixtus readeth, lex iniustitiae. Eccles. 8.8. Clement readeth, in g [...]udium nolumus venire: Sixtus readeth, volumus venire. &c. 21. v. 15. Clement readeth, est autem sapientia. Sixtus hath, est autem insipientia. Iohn 6.65. Clement readeth, qui essent non credentes: Sixtus readeth, qui essent credentes. Heb. c. 5.11. Clement readeth, grandis sermo & ininterpretabilis; Six­tus readeth, grandis sermo, & interpretabilis. Infinit repug­nances also there are more betwixt these editions, which who so list to sée, let him peruse M. Th. Iames his painefull treatise intituled, Bellum papale, wherein he hath compared these two editions throughout. And if in the edition of Six­tus Quintus his bible at Antwerpe Anno 1599. thou doe not finde these lections mentioned, thou maiest thereby further vnderstand, that some of late, since Sixtus his death, haue ta­ken paines to falsifie his edition, and to make him to speake contrary to himselfe. If then Hierome say true, In praefat. in Iosue. & in prae­fat. in 4. cuan­gel. non posse verum esse quod dissonat, that is, that what doth differ, cannot be true, then is it notorious, that one of these two popes hath falsified not onely the scriptures, but also the authenticall la­tin translation, as they call it. And if they make no scruple to falsifie the holy scriptures of God; it is no maruell, if im­pudently they falsifie the writings of men.

The Popes also and their consorts haue committed noto­rious [Page 104] falsifications in publishing coūterfeit canons and con­stitutions partly vnder the name of the Apostles, and partly vnder the name of diuers auncient bishops of Rome, and lastly of diuers councels and fathers. falsification 8 For first they haue set vs out 84. C. sextam sy­nodum dist. 16. Ibidem. canons vnder the names of the Apostles. Ha­drian the Pope alloweth and receiueth the vi. Synode, and all her canons, in one of which the canons of the Apostles were confirmed▪ and thereupon Grati [...]n concludeth, that they were authenticall. And commonly the church of Rome allead­geth these canons, whensoeuer she hopeth to winne any ad­uantage by them. But many reasons declare them to bee counterfeit. As first, for that contrary to the doctrine of the Church, the baptisme of heretikes is condemned can. 45. Se­condly, can. 65. saterdaies fast is forbidden. Thirdly, once dipping in baptisme is déemed vnsufūcient can. 49. contrary to the orders of the Church. Fourthly, the catalogue of scrip­tures rehearsed can. 84. is by none allowed▪ for neither wil the Church of Rome allow of the third booke of Machabeyes, nor of the Epistles of Clement. Fifthly, the Apostles, as is said, in those canons confirme the Gospell of S. Iohn; yet stories report, that the same was not written before the rest of the Apostles were dead. Sixthly, these counterfeit canons mention diuers orders of ministers, of fastes, of bestowing of ecclesiasticall liuings, and such like, not vsed in the Apo­stles times. Finally, not only Isidore c. canones, dist. 16. and Leo c. Clementis. dist. 16. but also Gelasius c. sancta Roma­na. dist. 15. doth number these canons among apocryphal writings.

But in nothing doth the impudencie of the Romish Sy­nagogue and her agents appeare more, then in the falsis [...]a­tion of the actes of councels. For they haue not onely falsifi­ed diuers particuler actes, and canons, and foisted them in among the actes of councels, but also deuised whole procée­dings, as passed in auncient councels, which notwithstan­ding are méerely forged.

falsification 9 The actes of the councell of Sinuessa reported by Peter Crabbe and Surius seeme to be much falsified. For first of the thrée copies, that are in Surius not one agréeth with another. [Page 105] Secondly, séeing as 318. bishops could hardly be drawne to the great councell of Nice, in the peace of the church, albeit Constantine called them out of all parts of the world; if is not like, that in time of persecution 300. bishops could bee drawne to Sinuess▪ about Marcellinus, according as it is re­ported in the act [...]s of the councell. Thirdly, the spéeches of Marcellinus and the rest are so simple, and the stile so much differing from those times, that he must be of a very dull vn­derstanding▪ that perceiueth not the falshood of the author of those actes. Fourthly, the actes of that pretended councel are contrary to themselues. For in the latter ende they say, prima sedes non iudicabitur a quoquam: and yet a little be­fore, it is said, that the bishoppes did condemne Marcellinus. damnauerunt cum say they, extra ciuitatem. Finally, the pro­céeding in M [...]rcellinus his sacrificing to Idoles, and in his triall by 72. witnesses, is most ridiculous, and no way to be iustified by authenticall records.

falsification 10 Likewise seeme the actes of the councell of Neocaesarea and Ancyra to be counterfeit. For in times of persecution it was not like, that many bi [...]hops could assemble, or had any care of commaund and superioritie, or any credit to make lawes concerning gouernment. Besides that, histories authentical make no mention of law-making councels before the gene­rall councell of Nice. Finally the actes are so simple, and so euill agrée with those times, in which they are said to passe, that we must either haue authenticall proofe for them, or els must haue leaue to beléeue them to be forged.

falsification 11 The actes of the councell of Rome vnder Siluester doe so plainly appeare to be forged, that I doe wonder, that our aduersaries are not much ashamed of them. The number of bishops is said to be greater, then in the councell of Nice. The names of them are méere One is cal­led Squiro, ano­ther Cleopatris, another Vulti­bus. and the rest also seeme names of con­iuration. barbarous; and One is cal­led Simplex, an­other Exitiosus, the 3. spe [...] in deo. the 4. quod vult deus. Gréeke bishops comming to that councell commonly haue latine names. The fable of cleansing of Constantine from his le­prosie is there reported. 57. bishops of I would gladly know, where this is. Rinocoruris are said to be present; yet did they not subscribe. The councell was said to be assembled by the aduise of Constantine, or of his mother: they séeme not to know, whether. The actes [Page 106] are most disagréeing from those times, and some of them ve­ry ridiculous, as for example, that Nonnes should not pro­fesse virginitie, vntill the age of 72. yeares, when such profes­sion is néedlesse. Finally, the words are so barbarous, that they sauor of gothicall and lombardicall monkerie; and the actes so beneficiall to the sea of Rome, that euery man may sée, that later Popes vnder the title of this councell meant to couer their owne ambitious decrées, and humors.

falsification 12 Most shamefully also haue the agentes of the Romish church corrupted the actes of the councell of Nice. Ruffin and all authenticall writers mention no more, but onely 20. ca­nons. C. viginri. dist. 16. Pope Stephen also confesseth, that there are but only 20. canons receiued of the Romish church. viginti tantum capitula Nicenae synodi in sancta Romana ecclesia habentur, saith he. C. septuaginta. dist. 16. Summa concil. apud Horatium Cardon excus. anno 1601. But Gratian vnder colour of an Epistle of Athana­sius affirmeth, that there are seuenty canons made in that coun­cell: and now of late one Alphonsus of Pisa a Iebusite hath set out 80. canons of that councell translated, as he saith, out of Arabicke. He might haue done well to haue said translated out of the language of China▪ for then rather would diuers haue beléeued them, then gone to China to search or examine the truth of Alphonsus his report.

falsification 13 In the sixt councel of Carthage Sozimus bishop of Rome was manifestly conuinced by actes of the councell sent from diuers places to haue foisted in a false canon into the actes of the councell of Nice. His agents auerred, that the councell of Nice had decréed, vt si episcopus accusatus fuerit, & iudica­uerint episcopi regionis ipsius, & de gradu suo deiecerint eum, & appellasse episcopus videatur, & confugerit, ad beatissimum ecclesiae Rom. episcopum, & voluerit audiri &c. That the ap­peale should be receiued, but the whole councel did take him in the very act of forgerie. The same also may be proued by the true actes of the councel, and by all authenticall writers, that report the actes of that councel truely.

falsification 14 Paschasius one of the Popes agents in the 16. action of the councel of Chalcedon according to instructions giuen him al­leadged a piece of a counterfeit canon of the councel of Nice, beginning thus, Ecclesia Rom. semper habuit primatum. [Page 107] That these words are foisted into the sixth canon of the coū ­cel, it appeareth by the view of the canons themselues, as they are set downe, not onely by Ruffinus in his ecclesiastical history, but also by Peter Crabbe, Surius, Carranza, and other Romanists.

falsification 15 The 36. canon of the sixt synode, is thus reported in the [...]omes of councels, and in Carranza, Renouantes quae à san­ctis patribus 153. qui in hac regia vrbe conuenerunt, & 630. qui Chalcedone conuenerunt, dece [...]nimus, vt thronus constantino­politanus aequalia priuilegia cum antiquae Romae throno obti­neat, & in ecclesiasticis negotijs vt illa emineat, secundus post illam existens. post quem Alexandrinorum metropolis nume­retur. deinde Antiochiae, & post eum Hierosolymitanae ciui­tatis. But this canon is diuersly falsified by the Romanists. for first they cut out certaine wordes, as they are found in the 18. canon of the greeke copies of the actes of the councell of Chalcedon; and this canon of the sixth synode they turne contrarie to the meaning of the Fathers, setting it downe in these termes. C. Renouan­tes. dist. 22. Renouantes sancti constantinopolitani decreta concilij, petimus, vt constantinopolitana sedes similia priuile­gia, quae superior Roma habet, accipiat, nec non in ecclesiasti­cis rebus magnificetur, vt illa, sed haec secunda post illam exi­stens, prius quam Alexandrina sedes numeretur; deinde Antio­chena & post eam Hierosolymitana. Thus is it set downe in the canon lawe corrected by Gregory the thirteenth, and yet differeth much from the originall▪ but in all auncient copies we reade, non tamen in ecclesiasticis rebus magnificetur vt illa: which is a farre greater corruption then the other.

falsification 16 The fift councell of Carthage c. 3. determineth, that bi­shops and priests and deacons should abstaine from their owne wiues, [...], that is, as Balsamon interpreteth it, tē ­pore vicis suae, or during the time of their turne of seruice▪ to make the best of it, yet can it not signifie propria aut priora statuta. Yet the Romanistes dist. 33. c. placuit. haue falsiff­ed the canon, adding subdeacons, that were left out of the canon, and making this canon absolutely to exclude Bi­shoppes, Priestes, and Deacons from their wiues at all times.

falsification 17 In the councell of Mil [...]uis c. 22. African priests, deacons, and inferiour clerkes are forbidden absolutely to appeale be­yond the seas. But Gratian like a falsary hath added to the canon, nisi forte sedem Romanam appellauerint, that is, vn­lesse they appeale to the fee of Rome, which is quite contrary to the meaning of the canon. And therefore Gregory the thirteenth in his bookes of the canon lawe, hath set downe these wordes in an other letter. but he rather hurteth, then helpeth the matter, testifying that all the Romanists that al­leadged, or vsed the canon thus before his late correction, were falsaries.

falsification 18 In the councell of Laodicea the Fathers can. [...]5. forbid Christians idolatrously to worship angels, ad angelos idolo­latriae abominandae congregationes facere. But the Roma­nists being guilty in their owne conscience of the idolatrous worship of angels, for angelos haue set downe angulos, as appeareth by Surius, Carranza, and diuers late editions of councels. Now that this is a falshood, it is to be proued by the testimony of Chrysostomes homilies, and Theodorets commentaries, vpon the Epistle to the Colossians, and Bel­larmine in his first booke de cultu sanctorum cap. 20.

falsification 19 Pius the fift in a certaine contention betwixt him, and the Emperor, Vita di Pio. 5. in literis. to helpe his owne cause, doth most falsely alleadge a canon of the councell of Nice, whereby he would prooue, that by the determination of that councell the Pope of Rome was made Lord, and gouernour of all Princes that bore the name of Christians, and that the councell did anathematise all, that dare say contrary. E sentenza, saith he, di tutti theologi è canonisti, è determinatione de concilij, massimamente del Niceno, Ch' il succcessor di san pietro sia signore è rettore di tutti i principi del nome christiano, de tutte le prouincie, & tutte le genti, anathematizando chiunque cio ardisse contra­dire. A wonderfull great principalitie, certes, if he should he made gouernour of all christian Princes, of all prouinces, and nations. But this principality is grounded vpon no o­ther foundation, then lewd lies, and forgeries. For in the actes of the Nicene councell there is no such matter, as may appeare both by the testimony of Ruffin, and confession of [Page 109] Surius, Carranza, Bellarmine and Baronius, that are not able to shew vs any such act in the Nicene councell. We must therefore pray Robert Parsons, otherwise Howlet, and his disciple Owlyglasse to shewe vs this noble canon alleadged by Pius their holy Father: vnlesse they meane, that the world shall be made acquainted with the impostures, and falsifications of the Romish church. For as lawes deter­mine, they are falsaries, that shall adde to lawes, constitutions, and canons, and are as falsaries to be punished. L. si quis falsis. ff. ad l. cornel. de falsis. Si quis saith Modestinus, falsis constitutionibus nullo authore habito vtitur, lege cornelia aqua & igni interdicitur.

falsification 20 But it nothing els were; yet the counterfeit donation, which the Popes of Rome pretend to haue béene made by Constantine is sufficient to conuince them of falsification. for therein by a tricke of forgery they claime, not onely a soue­rainty ouer the whole cleargy, but also a great part of the Westerne empire. And so stifly doe they stand in the main­tenance of this grant, that they will hardly bee induced to heare the contrary. Augustine Steuchus in a large volume goeth about to defend it. But, notwithstanding all his plea­ding, he is a simple fellow, that doth not sée this grant to be counterfeit; and very bolde, if not impudent, that will de­fend it, as doth the glosse set out by Gregory the thirtéenth, alleadging the testimony of Anselme, Deusdedit, Leo nonus, Petrus Damianus, and such other forged deuises. For first it is intituled Palea, which argueth, that it was thrust into Gratian, and was for credit as light as chaffe. Secondly this donation séemeth to be translated out of the legend of Sylue­ster. Thirdly, all stories report contrary to this donation, that Constantine was baptized at Nicomedia a little before his death. Constantinus Nicomediae baptizatus est saith The­odoret, paulò ante mortem. Lib. hist. 1. c. 32. distulerat enim vsque ad illud tem­pus, in Iordane stuuio hoc promereri desiderans. The same is also confirmed by the testimony of Eusebius, Hierome, Ruffin, Socrates, Sozomen and others. But this donation doth sig­nifie, that he was baptized by Siluester, and as it is in Silue­sters legend, cured of a leprosie, and that before the warres with Licinius and Maximinus. 4. This donation was gran­ted [Page 110] as is sayd, in the beginning of Constantines reigne. But that cannot be true, séeing it mentioneth Constātinople, yt was not so named, nor founded by Constantine vntill long after. In the Nic [...]ne councell Alexander was called epis­copus Bizantij, and Sozomen testifieth, that Constantinople was founded in the height of Constantines prosperite. 5. This donation preferring the bishop of Rome before the other pa­triarkes is playnly repugnant to the counsell of Nice, that maketh all ye patriarkes aequal. 6. The bishop of Rome neuer enioyed any such prerogatiues, as are giuen him by this counterfe [...]t grante, either in Gréece or other places. 7. He is called Vniuersalis episcopus by that grante; yet did Gregorie the first refuse that title long after this time. 8. The Popes now weare a triple crowne, yet Siluester would not, as this donation pretendeth, weare an imperiall crowne. 9. No au­thenticall history maketh mention of this great donation. 10 Nay contrarywise histories relate, that Constantines sonnes, and successors did long after inioy those things, which are in the gift pretēded to be deliuered to Siluester. 11. Neuer were Constantine and Gallicanus consulls together. Finally the rude and rascall stile, and the circumstances of this grante, nothing fitting Constantines time, nor person, nor yet the person of Siluester, that yet scarce was secured from persecu­tion, doe playnly declare the same to be forged.

falsification 21 The constitution also of Ludouicus mentioned dist. 63. c. ego Ludouicus. Is most grosly forged. For first the same contradicteth the donation of Constantine. For what néeded this grant or donation, if Constantine had giuen the same, and much more before? Againe if the Popes of Rome had béene in possession of this right, the french, that were greate benefactors to that see, Theodiric. a Niem. & Lan­gius. would neuer haue disturbed them. 2. histories teach, that vntill Boniface the 9. his time, the popes were neuer possessed of the temporalties of Rome. 3. there are diuers copyes extant of this grant, as may appeare by Gratian, and volaterran Geograph. lib. 3. Which doe con­tradict one another. But writinges repugnant one to ano­ther, L. scripturae. Cod. de fid. in­strument. and contayning manifest contradictions deserue no cre­dit. Scripturae diuersae say lawyers, & fidem sibi iniuicem dero [Page 111] gantes nihil habere firmitatis possunt. Neither can two contra­ry propositions be taken for true as lawyers hold. in l. si is qui. § vtrum. ff. de rebus dub. &. l. vbi pugnantia. ff. de regulis iu­ris. 4. The Romanistes neuer did chuse the pope according to this grant, nor did popes of late time grant, that emper­ors had any authority to giue a forme for the election of the Pope. Finally, the rude and barbarous stile, and termes of the grant, and all histories, that write of the gouerment of Rome about the time of this Ludouike do proue it to be conterfect.

falsification 22 The Popes also and their agents haue conterfected two certaine epistles vnder ye names of Iustinian and Iohn bishop Rome, which are now thrust into the code. C. de sum. trinit. & of fid. Cath. s. inter claras. And are commonly alleged for the Popes authority, and iurisdiction, as appeareth by the dis­putes of Bellarmine, and the fabulous narrations of Caesar Baronius. the forgery is detected First, by ancient manuscript bookes, where these two epistles are not to be found, as Alci­at testifieth parerg. lib. 5. c. 23. Secondly, these epistles are re­pugnāt to the law next precedent. For here the emperor doth signifie, that he did then pubish this confession first, L. cognoscere. Cod. de summa Trinit. & fid. Cath, and sent it to Iohn bishop of Rome to be allowed, or dissallowed; wher-by the law precedent and law beginning cum saluatorem. in the same title it is manifest, that he had published the same a yeare before, and sent it to Epiphanius bishop of Constanti­ople, and to other Churches. 3. Ado of Vienna in his chroni­cle, and Platina in the life of Boniface the 3. testifie, that the bishop of Rome was not called head of the Church before Phocas his time. 4. the law decernimus. C. de sancros. ecclesijs and law Constantinopolitana, in the same title, doth giue that yt to the bishop of Constantinople, that is héere claymed by the bishop of Rome. 5. Here the emperor promiseth to do nothing in causes ecclesiastical before he had made the bishop of Rōe acquainted withall. but that is refuted by the lawes called nouellae nu. 6. 11. &. 123. concerning the creation and ordination of bishops, the number of patriarkes & archbis­shops, their iurisdictions and priuiledges: and likewise by the nouel constitutions. 3.5.16.58.133 &. 137. al which concern [Page 112] mere ecclesiasticall causes. Finally the letter being written in Gréeke to a Romayne bishop from a Romayne Emperor, and translated after a most barbarous fashion doth playnly de­clare the same to be forged.

falsification 23 In the register of of Alexander the third, vnder the colour of some counterfect grantes, challenge is made by the popes to the crowne and souereinty of England. it behooueth vs ther­fore to looke vnto the fingers of these impostors and falsa­ries, that by one tricke of forgery are wonte to vsurpe a whole kingdome▪ nouit prudentia tua, saith Alexander the third, Anglorum regnum, ex quo Christi nomen ibi glorifica­tum est, sub apostolorum principis manu et tutela extitisse. his meaning is if he durst vtter it, that the souerein dominion ouer England belongeth to the pope. Whosoeuer list to read ouer Augustine Steuchus ye popes bibliothecary, or rather bab­ling falsary, shal find diuers counterfect instruments of ye sāe nature, wherby the popes clayme the kingdomes of Croatia, Aragon, Dalmatia, Denmarke, Spayne, Hungary, Poland, Russia, yea and the empire of Rome to belong to their sea. So gayn­ful hath the craft of forgery beene to that sée. And so shame­lesse are the popes agents in their forgeryes. falsification 24 Most impu­denly they make the Emperor Otho to sweare fealty to Iohn the 12. or as some recken. the 13. dist. 63. c. tibi domino. A matter so against reason forged, as nothing more. For there is not any one historiographer, that doth mention any such matter▪ nay histories report, that Otho deposed this Iohn, and caused another to be placed in his seate. So farre was he from swearing fealty to him. beside that, not any man of credit euer wrote, that the emperor held his crowne in fealty of the Pope. Bellarmine albeit he wish well to the Pope; yet doth he not holde, or beleeue any such mattter. Or at least he dare not speake or write so much. Thirdly, it is apparent, that Otho and his successors claymed iurisdiction in Rome, and the territory adioyning, longe after this supposed decre­tale. Therefore vnlike it is, that the emperor should, as is here pretended, forswere it. Finally, the frame of the othe is most ridiculous, and the stile most brutish, the emperor calleth the pope dominum: and saith, tibi domino [Page 113] Ioanni papae, ego rex Otho promittere & iurare facio. Which is a most absurd kind of spéech. For he that sweareth him­selfe, taketh his oth directly, and maketh not others only to swere, or promise▪ but no man can deny, but that it is falsi­ty to exhibit or vse any false instrument, or to corrupt or falsi­fie any publike or priuat writings by any meanes whatso­euer. paulus respondit, saith the law, legis corneliae poenateneri, L. instrumen­torum. ff. ad L. cornel. de falsie qui etiam extra testamenta cetera falsa signassent; sed et cete­ros, qui in rationibus, tabulis, literis publicis, aliaue qua re, siue consignatione falsum fecerunt, vel vt verum non appa­reat, quid celauerunt, surripuerunt, subiecerunt, resignaue­runt.

falsification 25 The epistles ascribe to Clement, Anacle tus, Euaristus, Alexander, Sixtus, Telesphorus, Hyginus. Pius, Victor and o­ther ancient bishops of Rome are nothing but méere forge­ryes. For first, seeing they liued in times, when latin was most purely spoken, it is not likely, but their epistles should be good latine. But these supposed epistles are most barba­rous and Gothical, and very vnlike to the stile of Tertullian, Cyprian, Lactantius, and other fathers. Secondly, it is not like, that liuing in ancient time those bishops should speake as the Italians spoake about a thousand yeares after Christ. Thirdly, séeing there is such difference of stile in diuers wri­ters, that no two or thrée write all alike; it is not like, if all these epistles had béene written by the men, whose names they carry, yt the stile of al should be like. Fourthly, if they were written by diuers, how happeneth it, that in diuers epistles diuers writers vse the same words, phrase and sentences? Againe what is the reason, that some of them alledge the words of the scriptures according to Hieromes traslatiō that was made longe after? Fifty, neither Bellarmine nor Baro­nius dare maintaine; that all these epistles are authentical. 6. The Romanistes themselues doe not giue any credit to these epistles For they hold that Linus succeded Peter imme­diatly▪ but Clement epistle. 1. telleth contrary, that he did succede Peter, being ordained by Peter himselfe. Finally, they containe some matters disagréeing farre from the times wherein they wrote, and others very impossible, and some­times [Page 114] contrarie to authenticall histories. Clement epist. 1. writeth to Iames of the death of Peter, who séemeth to be dead before Peter. He talketh of sending of bishops into France, Germany and Italy, as if he had then had men to commaund at his pleasure, and could haue disposed of things then, as in latter times. He talketh of a forme and face of gouernment, which then was not vsuall. In his second epistle most arro­gantly he taketh on him to instruct Iames the Apostle, which had his instruction from Christ Iesus. Qualiter tenere de sacra­mentis debemus, That is, of the dong of mise in the sacrament, which he cal­leth the Lords portion. saith he, te ex ordine nos decet instruere. And then full wisely he talketh, de murium stercore inter fragmen­ta dominicae portionis. Anacletus in his first epistle, would haue all hard questions referred to the church of Rome. But it is not likely, that the true Anacletus would haue so writ­ten, that died before Iohn the Apostle, who was better able to decide controuersies of faith, then Anacletus. In his se­cond epistle he saith, that the Apostles appointed the 72. dis­ciples, which the gospell sheweth vs to haue béene ordained by Christ. In his third epistle he saith, that Abilius succeeded Marke in Alexandria; whereas Anianus did follow Marke, and Abilius followed Anianus. He saith also, that Cephas signifi­eth a head in gréeke. The same man denieth the lesser or­ders vnder priests and deacons to be instituted by Christ or the Apostles. Euaristus talketh idely of ordaining priestes without titles, and consecrating of Churches, and stone altars; whereas titles, and churches began not before the peace of the church, and stone altars were not built for many yeares after. Sixtus beginneth his epistle thus, Sixtus vniuersalis a­postolicae ecclesiae episcopus: whereas this title was by Gre­gory the first, and long after Sixtus his time refused. It is not like that Hyginus being a Gréeke, wrote to the Athenians which were Gréekes in latin: which notwithstanding is sig­nified by his epistle. Beside that he affirmeth, that the first epistle of Iohn was written to the Parthians. Calixtus in his second epistle argueth against those, that refused repentance to those, that had fallen in time of persecution, which was the heresie of Nouatus, that rose vp some prety while after his time, Pontianus in his epistle ioyneth Christ and Peter [Page 115] together, contrary to the stile of those times. Marcellinus saith, non licet imperatori, Epist. 2. vel cuiquam pietatem custodienti aliquid contra mandata diuina praesumere: whereby he signi­fieth, that the Emperor then professed christian religion. In his first epistle he disputeth against the Arrians, which denied Christ to be of one substance with his Father, very stoutly, and yet in his time the heresie of Arrius was not knowne in the world. Infinit other exceptions may be taken to these, and to the rest of the decretale epistles, that go vnder the name of auncient bishops of Rome. But the rest being like to these, of which we haue already spoken, there is no question, but they are all of one stampe.

falsification 26 Melchiades 12. q. 1. c. futuram ecclesiam. telleth vs, how Constantine was christened, and gaue his seate, and other great possessions, to the church of Rome: and yet Melchiades was dead before Constantine was christened, or had giuen any thing to the Church. This act therefore must néedes be forged. and so doth the glosse confesse after a sort. falsus est ti­tulus saith the glosse in the canons set out by Gregory the 13. which sheweth, that the Romish Church impudently vseth false titles.

falsification 27 Next to decretale epistles, shall follow the falsification of Fathers. Out of Augustine de doctrina christiana lib. 2. c. 8. they describe this sentence, in canonicis scripturis ecclesiarum catholicarum quamplurimum diuinarum scripturarum solertis­simus indagator authoritatem sequatur, inter quas sane illae sunt, quas apostolica sedes habere, & ab ea alij meruerunt accipere epistolas. Where these last wordes & ab ea alij, are foisted in: and thereupon in the rubrike they affirme, that the Popes decretale epistles are to be reckened among canonicall scrip­tures: and that they go about to prooue most falsely by the te­stimony of S. Augustine, that doth not so much as speake one word of the popes decretale epistles.

falsification 28 The Fathers assembled in Trullo say, that Iames and Ba­sil [...]: that is, in the holy ministration of the Lords supper taught, that the cuppe was filled with wine and water. But the papists make them say, that Iames and Basil did deliuer vnto vs missae ce­lebrationem, [Page 116] that is, the first forme of celebrating masse, as they expound it.

falsification 29 C. species. de consecrat. dist. 1. there is a place alleadged out of Gregory homil. paschali. but falsely.

falsification 30 Likewise C. vtrum. de consecrat. dist. 2. is pretended to be taken out of Saint Augustine. yet the wordes are not found in Saint Augustine, as they are there set downe.

falsification 31 C. in Christo. de consecrat. dist. 2. is otherwise set downe then in Hilary, from whence the place is said to be taken. In the same chapter these wordes, corpus Christi quod sumi­tur de altari, and these which followe are also foisted into Hilary.

falsification 32 Into the wordes of consecration of the cuppe in the very canon, they haue thrust in these wordes, & aeterni, myste­rium fidei.

falsification 33 Vnder the names of Fathers, they haue set vs out a num­ber of treatises vnworthy of the Fathers learning or pietie. Vnder the name of Clement they haue published diuers con­stitutions by him affirmed to be apostolicall Of like stampe also are Clements fabulous recognitions. yet Gelasius doth place those constitutions among apocryphall writings. Ter­tullians and Origens tractates are often alleadged by papists; yet doth Gelasius note them, as bookes corrupted. Vnder the title of Martialis, Africanus, Amphilochius, Prochorus, and such like auncient writers, they alleadge most vaine and idle Pamphlets, neither sauouring of the pietie of those fathers, nor bearing the state of the times, wherein those Fathers liued.

Vnder the name of Cyprian are these treatises published: De montibus Sion & Sinah. de reuelatione capitis beati Ioannis. de singularitate clericorū. de cardinalibus operibus Christi. de laude Martyrij. de disciplina & bono pudicitiae. epistola ad No­uatianum. sermones aliquot. orationes duae. which by diuers arguments appeare not to belong to Cyprian. In the booke of the Reuelation of S. Iohns head, there is mention made of king Pipin, that liued diuers hundreth yeares after Cypri­an. and in this our opinion not onely Erasmus, but diuers o­ther authenticall writers concurre with vs.

Vnder the name of Hierome there are also extant, diuers counterfeit treatises, as first, a sermon de assumptione B. Ma­riae virginis, 2. a treatise de septem gradibus ecclesiae, wherein the author reckeneth bishops for a distinct order from priests, and leaueth out exorcistes. 3. a treatise intituled laus virgi­nitatis. 4. de attributis dei ex scripturis. 5. certaine sermons vpon principall feasts. 6. de vinculis beati Petri. 7. de diuer­sis generibus leprarum. 8. regula monachorum à Lupo quodam tempore Martini quinti collecta. 9. ad Tyrasium de morte filiae. 10. ad oceanum de ferendis opprobrijs. 11. de vita clericorum. 12. epistola Damasi ad Hieronymum, & Hieronymi ad Dama­sum. 13. Catalogus ad Desiderium. 14. de virtute Psalmorum. 15. de oblationibus altaris ad Damasum. 16. regula monacha­rum. 17. de natiuitate Mariae: and other treatises.

Vnder the name of S. Augustine we haue certaine ser­mons de tempore, de sanctis, & ad fratres in eremo, which both stile, matter, and other circumstances shewe not to be his. There are also meditations, and soliloquies, ascribed to him, but most vnworthy to beare his name. In the medita­tions hee establisheth the worship of angels, which in his booke of heresies, he reputeth to be an heresie. that booke I haue séene vnder the name of Anselmus, yet vnworthy the learning of Anselmus. in the soliloquies we reade the fable of Longinus. Beside that, both these bookes in stile, and grace sauour nothing lesse, then of Augustines spirit. In the Ma­nual, that goeth vnder Augustines name, beside much foolery there is plaine heresie. In the 16. chapter he sheweth, that it is in mans power to merit the kingdome of heauen; which is Pelagianisme, and a saying of S. Augustine in diuers places refuted. Beside that, the termes sauour of a scholasticall veine. The bookes called scalae paradisi, de duodecim abusio­num generibus, de contritione cordis, de cognitione verae vitae, de speculo, de vita christiana, de assumptione beatae Mariae, de contemptu mundi, de vanitate seculi, de obedientia & humili­tate, de bono disciplinae, de visitatione infirmorum, de conso­latione mortuorum, de quarta feria, de tempore barbarico, de cataclysmo, de sobrietate & virginitate, speculum peccato­ris, de vtilitate poenitentiae, de quatuor virtutibus charitatis, [Page 118] and diuers other set out vnder his name are manifestly to be prooued, not to be his, and that not onely by the testimony of learned men, but also by the stile, circumstances of the time, the monastical and grosse veine of the authors, and di­uers other notes.

Vnder the name of Basil. and Chrysostome they haue set out, not onely commentaries and masses, but also epistles and sermons; whereof some are no where to bee found in Greeke, the rest sauour rather of a frier like veine, then of those two fathers spirit.

And the like they haue done vnder the names of the rest of the fathers. But as it is forgerie to father bastards vpon wrong fathers; so it is forgery, and great wrong to set out such base stuffe vnder the name of fathers. And this may be gathered out of the lawe, qui falsam. ff. ad l. cornel. de fal­sis. & l. cum suppositi. Cod. etiam ad l. cornel. de falsis. Like­wise if it be falshood, to giue vs base mettall for golde, and to pare true coyne, as appeareth by the lawe, quicun (que) num­mos. ff. ad leg. Cornel. de falsis: then is it likewise falshood, to giue vs base stuffe for the writings of the fathers.

Herein they doe also commit another point of falshood. for hauing themselues abused the names of fathers, they by all meanes endeuour to suppresse the originall writings of the Gréeke fathers. Posseuin in his rapsody, which he entitu­leth bibliothecam selectam (albeit it is rather bibliotheca sce­lesta) perswadeth all, that haue gréeke copies to kéepe them from the sight of students in diuinity. Bellarmine also and Baronius, and diuers others confesse sometimes both bookes, and decretal epistles set out vnder the names of fathers, and auncient bishops of Rome to be forged. Their owne testi­mony therefore doth condemne them to be falsaries, if they vse these false writings, and alleadge them, as they do most commonly.

falsification 34 And least any man might doubt, whether the papists are falsaries or no; in their expurgatory indexes they openly pro­fesse themselues to be falsaries. In epist. ad Pi­um 5. ante bi­bliothec. san­ [...]am. For what is falsity, but to take away, to adde, to alter mens writings? but this the papists doe ex professo. Sixtus Senensis confesseth, that Pius 5. caused [Page 119] all the writings of the fathers to be purged, and cleansed. Ex­purgari & ernaculari curasti saith hee, omnia catholicorum scriptorum, ac praecipuè veterum patrum scripta, haereticorum aetatis nostrae faecibus contaminata, & venenis infecta. But vnder colour of purging, and cleansing away of things no­xious, it appeareth the Romanists haue taken out such things out of the fathers, as made against them. As for other wri­ters, they alter and mangle them, at their pleasures. In Bertram they change visibiliter into inuisibiliter. Index expur­gator. All that com­meth betwéene the words, considerandum quoque quod in panc illo, and the sentence beginning, sed aliud est quod ex­terius geritur; they dash out. and so they deale in the rest. In the censures of Erasmus, and annotations of Viues vpon S. Augustine, and in the scholiaes, marginall notes, and inde­xes of Augustine, Chrysostome and others, they take them­selues liberty, to doe what they list. Capnioes speculum ocu­lare, Fabres commentaries on the gospels, and epistles, Bea­tus Rhenanus his annotations on Tertullian they falsifie most impudently. Likewise doe they deale with all late writers. Not long since we [...]nde they haue corrupted both the glosse, and sometime the text of the canon law. And this is now a common practise of Iebusites, according to a direction and commission giuen them of the Pope to corrupt all authors, that passe their fingers. Posseuima shamelesse compagnion curtalling auncient writings saith, ex lib. 2. Hermetis col. 16. Select. biblio­theca lib. 1. c. 19. deleatur, rectè audisti. & paulò pòst, qui enim crediderunt, aut credituri sunt. In transitu sanctae Mariae, qui falsò ascribitur B. Melitoni, deleantur illa verba, in solatium ferendum angu­gustijs, quae superuenturae sunt mihi. deleatur etiam à capi­te 8. vsque in finem tractatus. ex libro Nicolai Cabasilae de­leantur capita 29. & 30. In quaestionibus Anastasij quaest. 87. scribatur in margine: haec intelligenda sunt de gloria corpo­ris. The treatise of Antonius Abbas he turneth, and man­gleth most impudently, and practiseth the like in diuers other authours workes. If then any man séeke for falsa­ries, let him go to papists, that make profession of forging and falsification, and which without forgery cannot main­taine their new forged deuises, as thēselues by their indexes [Page 120] of bookes prohibited confesse, and by bookes plainly falsified, it manifesty appeareth.

Finally they are falsaries, that produce or suborne false witnesses, or that vse their depositions. Poena legis Corne­liae irrogatur ei, L poena. ff. ad l. cornel. de falsis. saith Marcianus, qui falsas testationes facien­das, testimoniaue falsa inspicienda dolo malo coierit. But the Popes produce counterfeit fathers, and legends to testi­fie for them. They haue also suborned diuers vile persons to speake shame of honest men, as Bolsecus of Caluin; Lain­gius of Buchanan, and others; Sanders, Rishton, Robert Patsons and Creswell against King Henry the eighth, Quéen Elizabeth, the late Lord treasurer, the Earle of Leicester, sir Christopher Hatton Lord chancellor, sir Francis Walsing­ham, and others. The falsehood of these witnesses is con­uinced by diuers publike actes, and sufficient witnesses. Bolsecus in a synode in France publikely recanted his slan­derous booke, and professed, that he was hired, and drawne on by the aduersaries. Parsons shall heare some of his lies hereafter. His conscience in the meane while hath often tolde him of his lying. Wherefore, vnlesse Owlyglasse can answere in these pointes, the accusation of falsification doth fall on his dearest friends farre more heaui­ly, then vpon vs.

CHAP. V. A briefe Catalogue of certaine noto­rious lies vttered, and recorded by the Popes, and Church of Rome.

TO go about to comprehend in one Chapter all the vntruthes, and lies of the popes of Rome, and the syna­gogue adhering vnto them, were as possible, as to measure the sand, or to bring the Ocean sea within the compasse of one vessell. I will there­fore out of many, choose some fewe, that by the example of some part, e­uery man may iudge of the rest, and discerne, and hate the false packing of papists, and their adherents.

falsification 1 Innocentius the first, or rather some other Pope vnder his name affirmeth, that none did found Churches in Italy, France, Spaine, Africke, Sicily and Ilands lying betweene these coun­tries, but those whom Peter and his successors made Priests. He denieth also, that any of the Apostles taught in those countries, beside S. Peter, and those which he sent. Cum manifestum fit, saith he, in omnem Italiam, Gallias, Hispanias, C. quis nesciat. dist. 11. Africam atque Siciliam, insulasque interiacentes nullum instituisse ecclesias, nisi eos, quos venerabilis apostolus Petrus, aut eius successores con­stituerunt sacerdotes. aut legant, si in istis prouincijs alius apo­stolorum inuenitur, aut legitur docuisse. quod si non legunt, quia nusquam inuenitur &c. A lowde and large lye. for we reade in the Actes of the Apostles, that the Apostle Paul, who was not ordained, nor sent by Peter taught at Rome, and [Page 122] other places in Italie. Freculphus writeth yt Philip the Apostle taught in France. the French acknowledge Dionyse of Areo­pagus, whome Paule conuerted, to be their Apostle, and first teacher▪ Iereney ioyneth Paule with Peter in the foundation of the Church of Rome. In the old records of our Church it is reported, that Ioseph of Arimathia first planted the gos­pell in Britany. Saint Augustine sheweth that the Gospell came into Afrike from other contryes, then from Rome. For he distinguisheth Rome from those countries, frō whence the sound of the Gospell first passed into Afrike, as appeareth by these words of his epist. 162. ad Glorium, Eleusium et alios: Cum se videret, & Romanae ecclesiae, in qua semper apostolicae ecclesiae viguit principatus & ceteris terris, vnde euangelium ad ipsam Aphricam venit, per. communicatorias litteras esse con­iunctum. Finally so lowd was the lye, that the glosse is con­streined to say, that the word Alius; doth signifie, contrarius: which is quite contrary to Innocentius his purpose. For if his argument stand vpon this point, that therefore all the Chur­ches in the prouinces mentioned are to obey the Church of Rome, because shée was their founder; then if other not contrary to Peter did founde those Churches; it followeth that the same were not to harken to the pope or the Church of Rome but to their founders.

falsification 2 Gregorie the fourth saith, that all bishops causes, and the discussing of matters of religion belōgeth to the apostolike Roma­ne See, as the head of all Churches, & the place, frō whence the Church tooke her beginning. cum nulli dubium sit, saith hée, quod non solum pontificalis causatio, C. praeceptis. dist. 12. sed omnis sanctae religio­nis relatio ad sedem apostolicam, quasi ad caput ecclesiarum debeat referri, & inde normam sumere, vnde sumpsit exordiū. Anatorious lye. For the law went out of Sion, and not from Rome: and bishops causes were handled in times past in councels, and not before the bishops of Rome. There al­so were matters of faith decided, and not by the Romish bi­shops, as this lying Pope affirmeth. Nay the causes of the bishop of Rome himselfe, as wel as of all other bishops, were handled in councels.

falsification 3 Vnder the name of Athanasius the Church of Rome c. Sep­tuaginta. [Page 123] dist. 17. teacheth, that the counsell of Nice published 80. canons, which were reduced afterward to the number of 70. according to the number of 70. disciples; and that the copie brought to Alexandria was burnt by heretikes. But authen­ticall stories doe refute this lye, and shew, that there were onely 20. Canons established in that councell. Beside yt, Luke. 10. Luke saith, that Christ sent 72. disciples, As the old latin transtati­on hath. Thirdly, if the canons were 80. it were a méere fal­sity to cut of, or reduce 80. to 70. Finally, of the burning of the canons of the Nicene counsell there is no recorde in any au­thenticall writer.

falsification 4 Marcellus saith, that these words. Psal. 81. ego dixi dij estis, are spoken of Preestes. And thereby would proue them to bée aboue magistrates. Si seculares in publicis iudicijs saith he, C. synodum dist. 17. li­bellis vtuntur appellatorijs, quanto magis sacerdotibus haec ea­dem agere licet, de qubus dictum est, ego dixi, dij estis? The Pope therefore may bee conuinced of notorious ly­ing and forging by all interpreters, and not only by the text it selfe.

falsification 5 Vnder the name of Leo. c. ita dominus. dist. 19. They teach, that Peter was assumed into an inseperable bond of vnitie with Christ. hunc in consortium indiuiduae vnitatis assumptum; id quod ipse erat, voluit nominari; a matter vntrue and blasphe­mous, and vnworthy to be vttred by Leo. For albeit Christ consist of two natures; yet no man euer yet sayed beside this counterfect [...] Leo, that Christ and Peter made one per­son.

falsification 6 Anacletus saith, that Peter was made bishop, when Christ sayd to him, thou art Peter, and vpon this rocke I will builde my Church, and the gates of hell shal not preuaile against it, C. innouo. dist. 21. and I will giue thee the keys of the kindome of heauen. He saith, also, that the rest of the Apostles made Peter their prince; cete­ri vero apostoli cum eodem pari consortio honorem & potes­tatem acceperunt, ipsumque principem eorum esse voluerunt. But this second poynt is refuted by the whole tenor of the euangelical history, and the actes of the Apostles recorded by Saint Luke. For in no place we finde, where the Apostles did ordaine or make Peter their prince or gouernor. Nay we [Page 124] rather finde, where Christ made all the Apostles equall. The first point is contradicted also by the words of Christ, who in the future tence said: Dabo tibi, and not Do tibi. Bellarmine also holdeth, that Peter in this place receiued nothing, but a promise. quorum verborum saith he, planus & obuius sensus est, lib. 1. de. pontif. Rom. 10. vt intelligamus sub duabus metaphoris promissum Pe­tro totius ecclesiae principatum. Hee speaketh of the sence of the words rehersed by Anacletus, and by his exposition it ap­peareth, that Anacletus sayd vntruely, that Peter was made bishop by christs words vttred Mat. 16. which may al­so be proued by Turrecremata in his treatise de ecclesia. Final­ly all the Popes agents hold, that Peter receiued the primacy from Christ, and not from the Apostles.

falsification 7 Gelasius saith, that the Church of Rome obtained the pri­macie not by any ordinances of synodes, C quamuis. dist. 21. but by Christes owne words in the Gospell. A matter most vntrue. For the scrip­tures speake no where of the primacy of the Romish Church▪ neither can it be proued out of the wordes, tu es Petrus: al­ledged by Gelasius. Neither doth euery prerogatiue of Peter belonge to the Church of Rome. Nor had the apostle Peter any such high primacy, As the Pope nowe claymeth; and practiseth.

falsification 8 Pope Nicolas saith, that Dioscorus was not condemned for matter of faith, C. in tantum. dist. 21. but for denouncing an excommunication a­gainst Leo bishop of Rome. But the actes of the 2. councell of Ephesus being in fauour of Eutyches, and the councell of Chal­cedon do reproue him, and playnly conuince him of vntruth. The same also may be gathered by the chapter Canones▪ dist. 15. And therefore the glosse to salue this lye, saith we must so vnderstand Nicolas his words, as if he had sayd, that Dioscorus was not condemned for matter of faith onely; which was no part of Nicolas his meaning.

falsification 9 Omnes siue patriarchij cuiuslibet apices, siue metropoleon primatus, aut episcopatuum Cathedras, vel ecclesiarum cuiusli­bet ordinis dignitates, C. omnes. dist. 22. saith Nicolas the Pope, instituit Roma­na ecclesia. But he telleth a grosse vntruth▪ for the scriptures tell vs, that the Apostle Paule ordeined bishops in Crete, E­phesus, and diuers places both in Europe, and Asia; and [Page 125] ecclesiasticall histories tell vs, that neither the Church of Ie­rusalem, nor Antioch, nor other easterne Churches, nor their dignities were founded by the Church of Rome. Finally the actes of councels tell vs, that councelles did appoynt the seuerall limits of bishops diocesses, & did enlarge their dig­nityes according to diuers occasions; and that emperours, and the dignities of greate cityes did adde dignity to the bishops.

falsification 10 The same Nicolas also affirmeth, that Christ gaue to Peter terreni simul, & caelestis imperii iura. that is, the right both of the kingdome of heauen, and kingdome of earth. Ibidem. But our Sauiour Christs words shew, that he gaue him no earthly kingdome, but promised him onely the keyes of the kingdome of heauen. Nay if he be Christes vicar, then he must clayme no earthly kingdome. For our Sauiour Christs kingdome was not of this world.

falsification 11 Anacletus affirmeth, that Peter and Paule were both crowned with Martyrdome in one day, and at the same time. C. sacro sancta. dist. 22. a matter denyed by Prudentius peri steph. hym 12. Arator in Act. Apost. lib. 2. and the author of the 18. Sermon de sanctis, that goeth vnder Saint Augustines name, and diuers others.

falsification 11 Pope Nicholas saith, that Constantine called the bishop of Rome God. Constat à pio principe Constantino (quod longe superius memorauimus) deum appellatū. C. satis. dist. 96. And vpon this ground he goeth about to proue, that the Pope is not to be iudged by any. But this ground is an impudente lye, and cannot bée iustified by any authenticall writing.

falsification 12 In the chapter beginning Cōstantinus. dist. 96. ye Canonistes affirme, That Constantine the emperor gaue his crowne, and all regall dignity in the citie of Rome, and in Italy, and in the westerne contries to the Pope. Constantinus imperator Coro­nam, & omnem regiam dignitatem in vrbe Romana, & in Ita­lia, & in partibus occidentalibus apostolico concessit, say they in their decrées▪ but this is an impudentlye refuted by al au­thēticall writers, that describe the state of the empire of Rōe, and of the westerne empire after Constantines time. and is cōtradicted by the princes of Italy, yt for the most pa [...]te deny [Page 126] to holde any thing of the Pope in fealty. Like vnto this fa­ble is that, which is reported of Constantines leprosie, and how he was counselled to bathe himselfe in childrens bloud, and was at last cured by Syluester bishop of Rome by baptisme. For this is contrary to physicke, to cure leprosie by bathing in childrens bloud, and not well agreeth with diuinity, vn­lesse it can be shewed, that baptisme cureth corporall disea­ses. Finally, the same is not found in any good authour, but onely séemeth to be deuised by the writers of fabulous legendes.

falsification 13 Anacletus telleth, how prouinces were distinguished by the Apostles, C. prouinciae. dist. 99. and by Clement. But that fabulous relation is refuted by actes of councels, and constitutions of emperors, that from time tooke order for the limits of prouinces, and diocesses, and did innouate olde limits oftentimes; which assuredly they would not haue done, if the same had béen or­dered by apostolicall constitutions. The same is also con­tradicted by those, that attribute, the distinction and limitati­on of parishes to later Popes. Finally, it is disproued by the recordes of auncient time, that signifie, how the Church be­ing in persecution, the bishops that liued obscurely, had no reason ambitiously to contend, either about the limits of pro­uinces, or els lesser diocesses.

falsification 14 Vnder the credit of Tharasius they say, that Peter deposed those, C. multiplici­ter. 1. q. 1. in Cod. Greg. 13. that were ordained by Simony, as he did Simon Magus. Cum Petrus diuinus ille apostolus, cuius & Cathedram sortita est fraterna vestra sanctitas, say they, hos deposuerit, vt Simo­nem magum. But Simon Magus was not ordered, nor did euer Peter depose any so ordered, as may appeare both by the actes of the Apostles, and authenticall stories. Is not this then a fable, that they tell of Peter,, and of Simoniacall per­sons pretended to be deposed by Peter?

falsification 15 Innocent the fourth affirmeth, that the kingdome of Sicily is the speciall patrimony of Peter. Ad apostolicae. de sent. & re iudicat. Regnum saith he, est spe­ciale patrimonium Petri. But Peter neither claimed so much, nor acknowledged so much, nor knew so much. Neither do we reade, either in scriptures, or fathers, that hee had any such patrimony.

falsification 16 He saith also impudently, that in the person of Peter it was said to himselfe also, Ibidem. whatsoeuer thou shalt binde vpon the earth, shall be bound in heauen. And therefore he concludeth, that he hath power to depose Princes. Doth it not then ap­peare, that the Pope by lies, hath vsurped power to depose princes? and doth he not absurdly and falsely affirme, that Frederike was deposed by God, because he like a rebell pro­nounced him deposed, being a wicked man?

falsification 17 Clemens the fift affirmeth most falsely, that the Empe­rours hauing the crowne of the empire set vpon their heads, sweare fealty to the Popes. That this assertion is false, Clement. Ro­mani. de iure­iurando. Ibidem. it may appeare by the emperor Henries protestation, by all histo­ries, that talke of the emperors consecration, and by Bellar­mines disputes. For though he was willing to gratifie the Pope with any thing, that lay in his power to grant; yet durst he not say, that the empire is holden in fée of the Pope, or that the emperor sweareth fealty to the pope. How much then is it to be wondred, that christian emperours should so patiently endure these vsurpations of popes? Doth it not plainly appeare, that S. Iohns prophecie is fulfilled, howe they shall giue their authoritie and power to the beast? Certes, Apocal. 17. if this were not, they would neuer haue resigned their crown so basely into such beastly creatures hands, and take that of antichrist, which is originally their owne, and giuen them of God.

falsification 18 The same Clement affirmeth, that the king of Sicile is the Churches, and his vasal, Clement. pa­storalis. de sent. & re iudicat. and that he is the emperours superior iudge, and during the vacation of the empire, doth succeede the Emperour. Nos tam ex superioritate saith he, quam ad impe­rium non est dubium nos habere, quam ex potestate, in qua va­cante imperio imperatori succedimus. But this doth not on­ly conuince the Pope of singular pride and arrogancy, but also of falsehood and treachery. For Gregory the first called the emperor dominum, that is, his Lord▪ and Peter was sub­iect to the emperor, and also taught subiection to kings. Fur­thermore it is simplicity, to teach, The king of Spaine will not yeeld to it, I thinke. that the church doth pos­sesse earthly kingdomes, and hardly will the pope prooue, by any authenticall testimony, that the king of Sicily is his vas­sal. [Page 128] Finally, it is a shame to all the empire, to endure this ly­ing beast to disgrace the imperial state; and a matter of méere impudency for any to affirme, that the Pope is Emperour du­ring the vacation. And, I thinke, neither Bellarmine, nor Ba­ronius, albeit wel paid for lying, wil affirme, ye all that, which the Pope writeth in that shamelesse decretale, is true.

falsification 19 Boniface the 8. saith the Romish church hath two swords. In hac eiusque protestate saith he, C. vnam. extr. de maiorit. & Obed. duos esse gladios, spiritua­lem scilicet & temporalem, euangelicis dictis instruimur. But, that the Church hath a temporall sword, is most vntrue. for the Church hath the keyes of the kingdome of heauen, and no swordes to gouerne terrestriall kingdomes. It is also most false, that the euangelists teach vs, that the Church hath the temporall sword. For Christ said to Peter, Pasce, and not, macta oues meas. that is, féede my shéepe, and not, kill my shéepe.

falsification 20 In the glosse of the Chapter, vnam sanctam. extr. de maio­rit. & obed. we reade, that the Romanists affirme, that no man can be saued, vnlesse he be subiect to the Pope. Si Chri­sto Capiti, & eius vicario subesse nolumus, salutem non pote­rimus adipisci. The same is also gathered out of the text of Bonifaces decretale. But this is a maine vntruth. for the Apostles, and diuers of the Easterne, and Africane churches, and others not subiect to the Pope are saued, and I hope the papists will not deny, but they are saued. If they doe, I hope we may say, their denyall is a damned denyall.

falsification 21 The same Boniface also affirmeth most vntruely, that the Pope cannot be iudged of any, but God. but the Emperour, he beléeueth, may be iudged by the Pope. That he speaketh vntruth in both these points, I haue shewed in my bookes de Pontifice Rom. and de coneilijs. Histories also report, that diuers popes haue béene iustly deposed by councels and emperors, as for example Iohn the 12. Iohn the 23. Eugenius the fourth, and others. but that the Pope did iustly depose the emperour, we reade not. For men of great excellency haue condemned the fact of Gregory the 7. Paschalis, Gregory the 9. Innocent the fourth, and others, that attempted to de­pose the emperor. But we reade not of any man, that euer [Page 129] allowed it, but such as were hired to commend all the popes rebellions, and practises.

falsification 22 Clement the sixt saith, that Christ shed more bloud, then was sufficient for the redemption of the world, C. vnigenit [...] extr. de poen [...]. & remiss. and that the o­uerplus was laid vp in a treasurie for the Popes to bestow for remission of temporall punishment. He telleth also a tale of the image of Christ, that appeared on the wall of the Church of our Sauiour built by Constantine. Matters if not blasphe­mous, yet very vntrue, for not the shedding of bloud abso­lutely, but the death of our Sauiour was the satisfaction, that was to be paied for the sinnes of the world. Secondly, Christ died not, nor shedde his bloud, that the Pope might make saie of it by his indulgences, as is his fashion; but that euery one, that beléeueth on him, might haue remission of sinnes, and be saued. Which beliefe cannot stand with the popes dispensations and indulgences. Thirdly, the fable of the apparition of this image would be proued; or els it may easily be proued, that it is a false fable deuised of idolaters for iustification of their abhominable idolatry. To relate all the lies, that are set downe in the Latine, Italian, Spanish and English legends would require a great volume. Baronius hath set out nine or tenne volumes of legendarie lies. Yet hath he not comprised the one halfe of them, that are contai­ned in the legends. I will therefore onely giue you a taste of a fewe, that you may the better iudge of the rest. falsification 23 In S. Andrewes legend set downe partly in the Breuiary we reade, that he being brought before Aegeas the proconsul of Achaia did most fréely reprehend him; and that he should say, ego omnipotenti deo, qui vnus & verus e [...], immolo quotidie non taurorum carnes, nec hircorum sanguinem, sed immaculatum agnum in altari. Which words are not found in any authen­ticall writer, no nor in Abdias, albeit not authenticall. Be­side that, the name of Aegeas is rather greeke then latine. But in those times the Romaines made no Gréekes procon­suls. When Andrew came to the crosse, he is reported to haue said ô bona crux: which is no apostolicall spéech; nei­ther can it be found, that in any authenticall writer the Apo­stles are said, to haue sacrificed an immaculate lambe vpon the [Page 130] altar. Finally the legend saith, that his body was translated first to Constantinople, and then to Malphi in Italy, and that his head was brought to Rome in Pius the second his time. Mat­ters méerely forged, and by the illusions of Satan beléeued, for the establishment of the worship of Saints.

falsification 24 In the legend of Nicolas it is said, that being an infant, eue­ry wednesday and friday he refused to suck his nurfe vntil night, [...] bre [...]ar. Me [...]s. decemb. and that being farre distant he appeared to Constantine, and so threatned him, that he deliuered three tribunes, which by ca­lumnious accusations he had condemned to death. But these are matters, not onely false, but also incredible. for neither doe infants vnderstand what is fasting, much lesse lawes of fasting: nor can a mans body being in Lycia. as was the bo­dy of Nicolas, appeare at Constantinople: nor can men vn­derstand the prayers, much lesse the thoughts of men be­ing absent, vnlesse God reuele them, of which here is no mention.

falsification 25 Lucia a mayden of Syracus [...] by one Paschasius gouernour of that Iland, In breu. Rom. is said to be much importuned to sacrifice to idoles. But not preuailing, he purposed to send her to the stewes, and a man would thinke he did what he purposed▪ but see what happened. Shee stood so immoueable, that no force could mooue her, nor fire, pitch, nor rozine, nor boyling oyle hurt her; as it is in the legende. But these reportes séeme vtterly false and destitute of all proofe. nay, we doe not reade of any such gouernour of Sicile in Dioclesians time.

falsification 26 Antony and Paul the eremites are in the Romish breuiary said to haue bread brought them by a crowe. Mense Ianuar. in festo Paul [...]. We doe also reade, that Antony saw Paul [...]s soule caried by angels into hea­uen. Finally they tell vs, howe Antony wanting meanes to digge a graue to bury the corpes of Paule in, two Lyons did digge a hole capable enough of a body. Nay it is said, that they did mourne at his graue. so they plaide the partes, and did the office both of the Sexten, and of Mourners. But these fables, as they are contrary to all reason, so they are destitute of all proofe out of antiquity. Neither is R. Parsons able to shew how soules may be seene, or lyons can mourne. [Page 131] Further, 3. Reg. 17. beside Helias we reade of none fedde in such extra­ordinary sort by Rauens. Owlyglasse therefore may doe well to alleadge as good authority for the feeding of Paul and Anthony by a crowe in the wildernesse, as we can for the feeding of Helias by Rauens; and then he shall discharge the Romish synagogue of suspicion of telling vntruth.

falsification 27 Daemones ita contempsit (Antonius) saith the Romish bre­uiary, vt illis exprobraret imbecillitatem. that is, In fest. Anton [...] Antony did so contemne diuels, that he reproched them with their weak­nesse. But holy men mentioned in scriptures did not so. therefore it is not likely, that so holy a man would digresse from their footsteps. Neither is it likely, that they were so afraid of him, as is reported: or that he gathered monkes to­gether; and gaue them that rule, that now goeth vnder S. Anthonies name▪ for these are legendicall fables, destitute both of proofe and probability.

falsification 28 They tell vs also most improbable tales of Prisca, Agnes, Agatha, Catharine and other Saints. Our legends report wondrous matters of S. George, that killed the Dragon. but the Romanists are ashamed of S. George, and leaue his legend out of the breuiary. The like fables are tolde of S. Christopher: and yet the papists are not able to shew that e­uer there was a S. Christopher, or Saint Catherine in the worlde.

falsification 29 Likewise doth Capgraue tell strange matters, which of English papists were beléeued in time past. Capgraue in Bernaco. Saint Bernacus saith he, killed a mortiferous beast at Rome, that before had killed, and deuoured much people, and cattell. but it is not like, that Bernac coulde doe more, then his holy father the Pope. A certaine fellow, that stroke S. Bernac was puni­shed with swarmes of flying lice: toto corpore pediculis saith Capgraue; alatis obsessus. He spoke with Angels, sayled ouer the sea vpon a broade stone▪ turned oke leaues into loaues (viz. by changing one letter) stones into fishes, water into wine. his cow being cut in pieces, he restored notwithstan­ding to life, and committed her to be kept by a wolfe. Finally ke yoaked Harts, and made them draw in a cart. which Owly­glasse will hardly defend to be n [...] lies.

falsification 30 He saith, that Christ appeared to Augustine the monke, and talked familiarly with him; Capgraue in Augustino. and telleth also how hee plagued the men of Dorset with fire. But the Saints of God in time past, did rather pray for poore men, then call for fire downe from heauen vpon them. Saint Peter also, a man of as good credit, as Capgraue, saith the heauens must containe Christ, that is thither ascended, vntill the time of the restoring of all things.

falsification 31 When Bartilmew a monke came to Durrham, and saluted the crucifixe, the same wodden crucifixe bowing downe him­selfe, saith Capgraue, resaluted him againe. He saith also, that he sawe the diuell sometime in the forme of a mouse, sometime of a cat; and that he imprisoned a Hawke two daies, and made her to fast, for killing him a little bird▪ and many such lies tel­leth Capgraue of Bartilmew the monke.

falsification 32 Scripsit ex ore angeli sanctus Brendanus sanctam regulam, saith Capgraue, In Brendano. quae vsque hodie manet. that is, he wrote his rule, as he receiued it of an Angel. When as a poore fellow be­ing followed by his enemies, that meant to kill him, fledde to Brendan desiring succour, he willed him to get vp vpon a stone hard by, and not to mooue▪ this done, his enemies that follow­ed, stroke the stone for the man, and beleeued the man to bee the stone. He caused a fountain also to rise out of a drie ground, and was carried into paradise▪ as for dead men, hee raised them to life without any difficulty. Which things no man can passe for truth, vnlesse he be as sencelesse, as the stone, that Capgraue talketh of.

falsification 33 Of Edith Capgraue writeth, that when she died, Angels were heard to sing harmoniously, In Editha. and seene carying her soule to heauen: that, she appeared to Dunstane being dead, that her body remained without corruption, especially her thumbe, with which she made the signe of the crosse: That she did quiet the seas, and deliuered Aldred Archbishop of Yorke being in danger in the Adriaticke sea, when he called vpon her. All which lies, if Owlyglasse will beléeue; he must be very credu­lous, and one of those, that are giuen ouer to beléeue lies. But to make others beléeue, that these are no lies, he néedeth more eloquence, then he hath now ignorance.

In the 8. session of the councell of Constance, as it is cal­led, the popish church affirmeth, that Wickleffe taught, quod deus debet obedire diabolo. That is, that God must obey the diuell▪ also, that Princes being in mortall sinne, are not to bee obeyed. And diuers other matters neuer taught by Wick­leffe▪ which may appeare first by his bookes; and ne [...]t by the articles collected against him, and recorded by Thomas Wal­singham. Neither haue our aduersaries any arguments to proue the contrary, vnlesse a man wil beléeue those infamous articles, which were by his aduersaries obiected against him after his death▪ which neither law, nor reason will admit to passe for proofe.

falsification 35 Likewise did the papists deale with Iohn Husse in that wic­ked assembly, condemning him for holding articles, which he in open audience denied. One reported, Sess. 15. that he should affirme, that there was a fourth person in the trinitie; others, that he should call Gregory the first, rimer, matters which hee vtterly disclaymed. Yet these and many more lies that con­uenticle beléeued of him, and condemned him for them▪ and these lies of that holy man the synagogue of Rome now com­monly beléeueth.

falsification 36 Now the church of Rome not being able to ouerthrow our doctrine, goeth about to calumniate our principal teachers, as Luther, Caluin, Zuinglius, Oecolampadius, Bucer, Beza and others, & the principall agents either in shaking of the popes tyranny, or the establishing of religion, and namely her Ma­iesties most noble father, her mother, her brother, her selfe, her counsellors and principall agens, the prince of Condey, and his father, the Admirall of France, Henry the 4. nowe reigning, and diuers others in Scotland, Germany, and o­therwhere. Vnto Luther Leo the tenth imputeth calumni­ous assertions, which he neuer held. Commonly the papists giue out that he taught, that if the wife would not yeeld to her husband, that the husband might go vnto his maide▪ that he di­ed sodainly, that his body did stincke, and many such like slan­ders stincking in the nostrils of all honest men. Of Bucer they report, that he turned Iewe, and died blaspheming; a matter refuted by the testimony of his enemies, that were [Page 134] present at his death, and not onely by his friends. Of late they published a lying pamphlet of the reuolt of Beza, and of his death, which he yet liuing refuted. The slanders of San­ders, and ribaldry of that ribald Ribadineira, which the pa­pists receiue with such applause, shall shortly (godwilling) be made manifest to the world. Now it may appeare, that they are false, being deuised by Sanders, and Rishton, two lewde lozels vnacquainted with state matters, and, as it is thought, published, and much encreased by Rob. Parsons the most notorious traytor, and infamous libeller, that the con­gregation of Iesuites euer did affoord vs.

falsification 37 Pius the fift in his letters to the Emperor most impudent­ly affirmeth, In vita Pij quinti. that the councell of Nice made the Pope (which he termeth the successour of Peter) Lord and gouernour of all Princes christened, and also of all prouinces and nations what­soeuer, and that the same councell did anathematise all, that should contradict that authority. A matter proued to be a no­torious lye, by the actes of the councell▪ for therein no such matter is found. The same also is refuted by this argument, for that councels haue not to doe with the disposing of tem­porall states.

falsification 38 Sixtus Quintus in his rayling bull against the king of Na­uarre, now raigning and swaying the scepter of France, and the Prince of Condey, publisheth most notorious lies. He saith, they polluted and spoyled Churches, and with torments killed Priests, monkes and friers, and did compell men to re­ligion with threates, and bastonadaes; minis, verberibusque: No one point being to be proued against them, or that they did any thing more, then the lawes of armes enforced them for their owne necessary defence. The like slandrous Buls did Paul the third publish against Henry the 8. king of En­gland, and Pius Quintus, and Gregory the 13. against her Maiesty.

Wherefore vnlesse Rob. Parsons and his consorts can iu­stifie these matters to be true; it will appeare, that the Ro­mish religion is not onely maintained with lies, but also grounded vpon a packe of lies. For such as these are, an infinite multitude of lies may be found in the Popes, and [Page 135] the Churches of Romes principall recordes. Of which I shall haue occasion, if God bee pleased, to talke more at large otherwhere.

CHAP. VI. A taste of Bellarmines vnsauoury falsifications.

I Would be loth to wrong any, especi­ally in writing, where all that reade may be witnesses of the wrong, if a­ny be offered. Wherfore to answere my aduersaries accusatiō, that saith, I haue slandered and infamed the wor­thy prelate Cardinal Bellarmine, Praeface. where I charged him, with falsifications and lies; I will nowe, godwilling, iusti­fie my saying, and shewe, that his workes are not, as Ow­lyglasse saith, the sworde of Gedeon; but rather the sworde of Goliath, whereby a man with labour and diligence may cut off both his owne head, and the head of antichrist. The same is also like a leaden sworde guilted ouer, and fayre in shew, but nothing trenchant in proofe. Hee might more fit­ly haue compared them to Augias stable, that cōtained an in­finit heape of dung, but to be purged, if learned men would take the paines to examine them. For my part, I doe testi­fie before God, that they haue much confirmed mee in the truth, and truly affirme, that they are more tedious to read, then hard to refute, in matters especially that concerne vs. But now to come to the matter, I will offer to the reader a taste of his falsifications and lowde leasings, purposing to [Page 136] adde more, if our aduersaries please to continew this course of examination of ours and popish authors writings. I will also ioyne with him his fellow Caesar Baronius with his x. le­gions of lyes. Not doubting, but if they vnderstand their errours, their faces will turne crimsin. And why not their faces as well as their roabes, especially if they haue any remaynder of their pretended Virginall modestie?

falsification 1 First he doth wilfully corrupt the sixt canon of the coun­cell of Nice lib. 2. de pontif. Rom. c. 13. the canon beginneth thus, mos antiquus perdurat in Aegypto, vel Lybia, vel Pētapoli. But Bellarmine maketh the canon to begin far otherwise. Obseruandum saith hée, in libris vulgatis d [...]esse initium huius canonis, quod tale est. ecclesia Rom. semper habuit primatum. but these last words are playnly forged, as may appeare by all the copyes of the actes of the Nicene councel. neither can it excuse him, that one Paschasius act. 16. concil, chalced. hath these words, or that Copus a counterfect c [...]mpagnion doth affirme, that a certaine Abbot called Dionysius doth so read this canon for Abbots may proue forgers as well as others, and little credit is to be giuen to the Popes agente in his owne cause. Further Paschasius his words so stand, that we may probably coniecture, that some latter falsary hath so set down the words of this canon, as we read them now in the t [...]mes of councels set out by Papists. Finally, all authenticall his­tories testifie, that before the councell of Nice the Church of Rome was litle respected: and Aeneas Siluius doth in playne termes confesse so much. Neither can Parsons deny it, vn­lesie he put on his visor of impudency.

falsification 2 In his booke de pontif. Rom. c. 31. he falsifieth Hieromes words, and peruerteth his meaning to proue, that he called Damasus the foundation of the Church. Hieronymus saith he, in epist. ad D [...]masum de nomine hypostasis: super hanc petram ecclesiam aedificata [...] scio. vbi Damasum petram ecclesiae vocat. But Hieremes words stand thus. ego nullum primum, nisi Christum sequens beatitudini tuae, id est, cathed [...]ae Petri cōmu­nione consocior super [...]am petram ecclesiam aedificatam scio. Whereby it appeareth that Hierome meant to follow none but Christ, and that he meant Christ, when he speaketh of the [Page 137] Rocke. For so the pronoune Illam, that is referred to that which is further of, doth teach vs. But Bellar. to pro­ue the Pope to bée the foundation of the Church, leaueth out Christ, and for the pronounce Illam, writeth hanc, like a cunning falsary.

falsification 3 In the same booke and chapter he falsifieth the actes of the councell of Chalcedon. septimum est saith hée, caput ecclesiae, quo vtitur concilium Chalcedonense in epistola ad Leonem. qui but tu ve [...]ut caput membris praeeras. These words I say are falsely alledged. For first it cannot bee prooued, that this epistle was written by the councell, as Surius hath recor­ded Act. 3. Concil. Chalced. Secondly, admit the whole e­pistle was not forged; yet there is no mention made of the heade of the Church, as Bellarmine affirmeth▪ for the worde Caput, in these words, quibus tu velut Caput membris prae­cras: is referred to certeine Priests of Leoes order, in which ranke he sheweth himselfe principall. Bellarmine therefore to make some shew, leaueth out both the words going before, and the words following after, which playnly shew, that the authors of that epistle neuer meant to cal him the head of the Church. His falshood may appeare by the words, as they follow in that epistle Act. 3. concil. Chalced. set out by Surius. Si vbi sunt duo aut tres congregati in nomine eius say they ibi se in medio eorum fore perhibuit, quantam circa sacerdotes peculiaritatem potuit demonstrare, qui & patriae & labori suae confessionis notitiam praetulerunt? quibus tu quidem sicut ca­put membris prae eras in his qui tuum tenebant ordinem, beneuo lenriam praeferens: imperatores vero ad ornandum decenti­ssimè praesidebant. The Latin is rude and barbarous sauoring of a monkish humor. But by the words we may sée, that the authors of that epistle made Leo heade of preestes, and men of his cote, and not of the Church, nor councell, Wherein emperors most decentely did praeside, and sitte as cheefe moderators: as the fathers of that councell teach vs.

falsification 4 Likewise reckening vp the names and titles of the bi­shops of Rome, he saith that Eusebius in his cronicle anno. 44. doth giue them the title of Pontifex Christianorum. Which is a [Page 138] mere forgery. For not the bishops af Rome, but to Peter only, is that title giuen, if it be not thrust into the text. But what belongeth, and is peculierly giuen to Peter, may not be claymed by euery bishop of Rome. For I hope euery one of them will not be called Simon, nor an Apostle, nor the cheefe or first Apostle. Nor will they, I suppose, write, as Peter did, in his second epistle: Simon Petrus seruus & apostolus Iesu Christi. Finally I hope Clement the 8. will not write. Clemens octauus alter Simon Petrus, & seruus & apostolus Ie­su Christi.

falsification 5 In his booke de Monachis. c. 6. We read these words. Dicit (Lutherus) & saepissime repetit & inculcat, Paulū cū ait, se potuisse circumducere sororē mulierem 1. cor. 9. voluisse dicere, se potuis­se ducere vxorem. that is, Luther doth say, and often repeat, and inculcat, that Paule, when he sayd; he might leade aboute a sister, a woman, as it is. 1. cor. 9. meant, that he might mary a wife. But he doth falsifie Luthers words. For Luther saith onely, that the words 1. cor. 9. do not compell vs (to beleeue, that Paule had no wife) but rather shew, In. 1. cor. 7. that he had a wife, and would not lead her about with him. for speaking of this place, and of those, that collected out of it, that Paule was vnma­ried: hoc saith he, non cog it, verum multo magis indicat, eum habuisse vxorem, sed eam circumducere noluisse. He doth also impudently affirme, that Luther doth repeate, & inculcat that often which he is not able to shew to haue béene once vttred by him. He speaketh also very improbably. For séeing Luther affirmed that Paule had a wife already, it is very vnlikely, that he should say, and that often, that Paule might mary an o­ther wife. If then he will not be condemned both as a falsary, and a lying fellow, let him set downe Luthers words, where that is often repeated.

falsification 6 He alledgeth also in the same place these words, as taken out of Luther; Voueo castitatem paupertatem, & obedientiam▪ dicit saith Bellarmine, formam vouendi hanc esse debere, si piè vouendum sit, voueo castitatem, paupertatem, & obedientiam vsque ad mortē liberè, id est, vt mutare possim, quando volo. yt is, Luther saith, that this is the best forme of vowes, if we will make godly vowes; I do vowe chastity, pouerty, & obedience [Page 139] vnto death, but freely or conditionally, that is to say, that I may change, when I please. But Luther speaketh not one word, of the vowe of pouerty and monasticall obedience, nor euer thought, that any godly man might make a vowe concer­ning either; nor doth he speake, or place his words so ridicu­lously, as Bellarmine doth report. All that Luther saith to this purpose is this. Videtur forma voti apud deum sic habere, De votis monast. vo­ueo castitatem, quam diu possibilis fuerit, si autem seruare nequi ero, vt liceat nubere. That is in effect thus much. That forme of vowe seemeth most pleasing to God, that is thus vttered: I vowe chastity, as longe as I am able to containe, if I be not able, then that it may be lawfull for me to mary. Doth it not ap­peare, that Bellarmine hath falsified Luthers words & made him, contrary to his owne doctrine, to allowe vowes of pouerty and monasticall obedience, and to speake ridicu­lously, and foolishly, and far otherwise, then euer he spoke or wrote?

falsification 7 In the same booke chap. 31. He saith, that Chrysostome in his commentaries (vpon the 19. of Math.) teacheth vs, that Christ by the similitude of Eunuches would proue, that it is easie and profitable to absteine from mariage. facile & vtile esse abstinere a nuptiis. But like a falsary where Chrysostome hath possible, there he placeth facile. But many thinges are possible, that are not facile, and easie.

falsification 8 Likewise in the same booke chap. 27. he falsifieth a place of Saint Chrysostome homil. 15. in priorem ad Timoth. He re­hearseth Chrysostomes words thus, & vidua in uiduitatis pro­fessione christo consentit, id est christo nubit. But these words id est Christo nubit, are added by Bellarmine, and that per­uersely. For Christ is the spouse of the Church, and not of eue­ry capriccious nonne,

falsification 9 In his booke de notis ecclesiae. c. 9. he maketh Luther to speake thus: non alia via potest homo cum deo conuenire, aut agere, quam per fidem. opera ille non curat. But Luthers words, as they are set downe in his booke de captiuitate Baby Ionica. c, de Eucharistia, which booke with ye rest of his workes were set out at Wittemberge, are these. nec alia via potest ho­mo cum deo conuenire, aut agere, quam per fidem, id est, vt [Page 140] non homo operibus suis vllis, sed deus promissione sua sit author salutis; vt omnia pendeant, portentur, seruenturque in verbo virtutis suae. So it appeareth, that Bellarmine cutteth off the ende of Luthers sentence, and addeth these words: opera ille non curat, to make his doctrine odious.

falsification 10 In the same booke and chapter likewise Bellarmine falsifi­eth another place of Luther, making him to speake thus. tam diues est homo Christianus, vt non possit perire si velit, quan­tumcunque malè viuat. But Luthers wordes in his booke de Capt. Babyl. c. de baptismo, of the edition aboue mentioned, stand thus: tam diues est homo Christianus, vt volens non pos­sit perdere salutem suam quantiscunque peccatis, nisi nolit cre­dere. These wordes quantumcunque malè viuat, are added by Bellarmine, to make Luthers doctrine seeme contrarie to good workes.

falsification 11 He would make his reader beléeue, that Caluin should say, that God is cause of sinne. De notis ec­cles. c. 9. The place quoted instit. lib. 1. c. 18. doth acquite Caluin, and shew Bellarmine to be a falsary. for he doth not teach any such matter, nor hath any such words.

falsification 12 These wordes he setteth downe as taken out of Caluins instit. Ibidem. lib. 1. c. 18. §. 2. non solum permissu, sed voluntate dei homines peccant, ita vt nihil ipsi deliberando agitent, nisi quod deus apud se decreuerit, & arcana directione constituit. but he forgeth these words, quod dei voluntate homines peccant, and altereth the latter end of the sentence.

falsification 13 Lib. 3. instit. c. 23. §. 24. dicit Caluinus saith Bellar. lib. de notis ecclesiae c. 9. dei non solum praeuisione, & permissione, sed etiam voluntate in peccatum lapsum esse Adamum. But these wordes are no where to be found in Caluin. for he hath onely these wordes: lapsus est primus homo, quia dominus ita expe­dire censuerat.

falsification 14 Likewise he affirmeth that Caluin hath these wordes lib. 3. instit. Ibidem. c. 24. §. 14. quod aliqui verbum dei audire contemnunt, ipsorum est prauitas, sed in hanc prauitatem à deo addicti sunt. but these words à Deo are Bellarmines addition.

falsification 15 Speaking of Philip Melancthon: dicit saith he, ita fuisse o­pus dei Iudae proditionem, Ibidem. ac Pauli conuersionem. and these wordes saith he, are found in his commentaries vpon the eight [Page 141] Chapter of the epistle to the Romans. But the place viewed doth declare his falsehood. for he hath not the word ita, nor v­seth this frame of sentence.

falsification 16 Declaring vnto vs the heresie of the Eunomians: docebant saith he, non posse homini vlla peccata nocere, Ibidem. modo fidem habeat, vt testatur Augustinus lib. de haeres. c. 54. But he hath wronged Saint Augustine in reporting, that these are his wordes. Fertur (scilicet Eunomius) saith Saint Augustine, a­deo fuisse bonis moribus inimicus, vt asseueraret, quod nihil cuique obesset quorumlibet perpetratio, ac perseuerantia pec­catorum, si huius, quae ab illo docebatur fidei, particeps esset. Let indifferent men therefore iudge, whether Eunomius spoke absolutely of faith, or of his owne peculiar faith. And whether it is all one, to condemne good workes, and to say, that howsoeuer Christians are most carefully to walke in Gods workes; yet that they are not iustified by good workes, but by the grace of God communicated to them through faith in Christ Iesus.

falsification 17 Origenis haeresis fuit, perdidisse Adamum imaginem dei, ad quam creatus fuit, saith Bellarmine. Ibidem. And this he saith is af­firmed by Epiphanius haeres. 64. but he falsifieth Epiphanius, and belyeth Origen in this point. for his error was not, that he supposed man to haue lost the image of God through sinne, but that the soule did loose the same, being created and ioyned to the body. Illud secundum imaginem dicit Adam perdidisse: saith Epiphanius speaking of Origen, & inde dicit, corpus esse intelligendum, quando deus fecit vestes pelliceas, & illis induit illos. for so the gréeke text doth plainly teach vs.

falsification 18 He saith also, that Origen taught; that hell was nothing, but the horror of conscience. Ibidem. and this he auoucheth vpon the cre­dit of Hierome in epist. ad Auitum de erroribus Origenis. But in this point also he doth mistake Origen, and falsifie Hieroms wordes. For Hierome doth not set downe any such wordes, but onely sheweth, that Origen taught, ignem Gehennae & tormenta non poni in supplicijs, sed in conscientia peccatorum. He may therfore doe well to report Hieroms wordes the next time better, least those, that are of Origens heresie be therein confirmed by his false dealing.

falsification 19 Of Caluin he affirmeth, that he taught, that the image of God was lost in Adam; and to prooue it, doth alleadge these wordes, as out of the 2. booke of his institutions c. 1. §. 5. per peccatum primi hominis obliterata est coelestis imago. But that which he saith of the loosing of the image of God in A­dam, is a grosse lye. for Caluin neuer taught, that the image of God was quite lost, but blemished and much defaced. The words also are falsified. for he saith not, as Bellarmine repor­teth quod imago obliterata esset, absolutely, but quod tan­quam scriptura bella calamo transuerso obliterata esset.

falsification 20 He affirmeth, that Epiphanius reporteth haeres. 64. that Proclus an heretike taught, Ibidem. that sinne did alwaies liue in the regenerat, and that concupiscence was truely sinne, and that the same was onely dulled by faith, and not taken away by bap­tisme. He saith also, that Theodoret reporteth as much lib. 3. haeret. fabul. of the Messalians. But he doth abuse both E­piphanius and Theodoret, and doth ascribe that vnto them, which they neuer taught. Theodoret lib. 4. haeret. fabul. cap. de Messalianis doth not so much, as mention concupiscence, or vtter any such words. but rather contrary to Bellarmines report of them he saith, that the Messalians taught, that bap­tisme like a razor cut off all former sinnes.

falsification 21 Haec est ipsissima sententia saith Bellarmine, Lutheri art. 2. & 31. Ibidem. &c. item Philippi in locis communibus c. de peccato O­riginis, & Caluini lib. 4. instit. c. 15. §. 10. scilicet peccatum in renatis semper viuere. but in no one of these, can he finde, that sinne is said to liue in the regenerat. For our doctrine is con­trary, and euery christian professeth, that he ought to morti­fie his concupiscences and earthly members, and to be quicke­ned in the spirit. Wherefore either the man lyeth intolera­bly, or els he doth falsely alleadge the wordes of Luther, Me­lancthon, Caluin. And that shall appeare more plainly, when Robert Parsons goeth about to iustifie his olde acquaintance Bellarmine.

falsification 22 The chiefe errour of the Nouatians saith Bellarmine, was, that there is no power in the church, to reconcile men to God, but by baptisme. And this hee goeth about to prooue out of Theodoret lib. 3. haeret. fabul. c. de Nauato. But Theodoret [Page 143] doth conuince his false report both of his owne wordes, and of this heresie. For first he sheweth, that Nauatus did deny to reconcile those, that had fallen in persecution. And after­ward, that his followers did vtterly deny the vse and grace of repentance. Poenitentiam a suo conuentu arcent penitus saith Theodoret speaking of the Nouatians. It is also appa­rant, that they did not restraine remission of sinnes to bap­tisme onely.

falsification 23 Where he speaketh of the heresie of the Nouatians, he tel­leth vs, that Cornelius witnesseth, that the Nouatians taught, Ibidem. that the Church had no power to reconcile men to God, but by baptisme, and that such as were baptized, were not by the bishop to be annointed with Chrisme. And this he saith is found in Eusebius his history lib. 6. c. 33. but neither hath Eu­sebius nor Cornelius any such words.

falsification 24 In his second booke de eucharistia c 9. he hath these words, Dixit (Cyprianus) latere sub specie visibili panis deum verum. but Cyprian saith onely, diuinam essentiam ineffabiliter se visi­bili sacramento infundere. And there is no small difference betwixt these two propositions. for the diuine essence may worke in sacraments after an vnspeakable sort, albeit Christ God and man be not contained vnder the visible forme of bread in the eucharist, or water in baptisme: Especially af­ter the forme imagined by papists.

falsification 25 In the same booke chap. 12. he affirmeth, that Hilary doth often repeate these wordes, Christum naturaliter esse in nobis per sumptionem eucharistiae. But the same are not to be found in the 8. booke of Hilary de Trinitate, once, which he saith are found often.

falsification 26 Likewise in the same booke chapt. 14. speaking of Cyrill he saith, Ibidem iubet vt flexo genu & in adorantium morem accedant ad eucharistiam▪ And these wordes he supposeth to bee in his fift mystagogicall and catechisticall instruction. But neither are the wordes there to be found, nor hath hee any such commandement, nor did he euer beléeue or teach, that the sacrament was to be worshipped after the po­pish manner.

falsification 27 Citing a place out of Saint Augustine de Trinit. lib. 3. [Page 144] c. 10. he would make his reader beléeue, Lib. 2. de eu­charist. c. 24. that our Sauiour Christ appeared to the eyes of mortall men in the formes of bread and wine. A matter neuer vttered, nor thought of by S. Augustine, nor to be found in that place, or otherwhere in his writings.

falsification 28 Speaking of S. Augustine he saith, that in his 12. booke contra Faustum c. 10. he teacheth, that the faithfull receiue that bloud with their mouth, wherewith they were redeemed. And in the 20. chapter of the same booke, that they drinke that, which issued out of Christ his side. But S. Augustine hath not one word of receiuing of the bloud of our redemption with our mouth▪ neither doth he meane, that we doe pro­perly and carnally drinke his bloud, or with corporeall in­struments.

falsification 29 Out of Hesychius lib. 2. in Leuit. cap. 8. he quoteth these wordes lib. 2. de eucharistia c. 32. sanctum altare esse locum, vbi sanctus sanctorum requiescit. but the same are falsely fa­thered vpon that father, being neither to bee found in that chapter, nor otherwhere.

falsification 30 Lib. 1. de mis­sa. c. 19. Out of Chrysostomes homil. 79. ad populum Antioch. he citeth these wordes, altari assistens sacerdos, pro terrarum or­be, pro episcopis, pro ecclesia, pro gubernantibus ecclesiam iu­betur deo offerre. but Chrysostome hath no such wordes of the priests offering, but saith, that the people of Antioch doe pray for all these sortes of people.

falsification 31 Ibidem. He affirmeth, that Chrysostome homil. 72. in Matth. saith, that the eucharist is offered, pro infirmis, pro sanis, pro terrae fructibus. but he hath no such like wordes, either there, or any other place: but he saith onely, that we pray in the cele­bration of the eucharist for such as are possessed with diuels, for sicke persons, and such like.

falsification 32 Hippolytus in his oration of the ende of the world hath these wordes, venite pontifices, qui purè mihi sacrificium die, noctéque obtulistis, ac pretiosum corpus, & sanguinem meum immolastis mihi quotidie. Bellarmine lib. 1. de missa c. 15. lea­ueth out these words, qui purè mihi sacrificium die nocté (que) ob­tulistis: least we should know, that he speaketh of spiritual sa­crifices, & not of the masse, that is seldome said in the night.

falsification 33 Lib. 2. de missa c. 9. speaking of the multitude of priuate masses, he endeuoureth to prooue the same by a most aunci­ent custome, as he saith, and for this ende alleadgeth an epi­stle of Telesphorus, and a testimony out of Gregory homil. 8. in euangel. but not only the epistle of Telesphorus is counter­feit, but both the same, and Gregories testimony is falsely al­leadged. for neither of them speake any one word of such a custome, or of the custome of saying three masses in one night. In the same place also prosper is falsely alleadged. For he speaketh not one worde of offering one sacrifice twise in a short time.

falsification 34 To prooue the adoration of the sacrament lib. 4. de eucha­rist. c. 29. he falsely alleadgeth Gregory Nazianzen in laudem Gorgoniae, Cyrill of Hierusalem Catechis. 5. mystagog. Euseb. Emissenus homil. 5. de Paschate. for not one of these speaketh one worde of adoration of the sacrament, as hee affirmeth most falsely.

It were infinite to touch all the places falsified by Bellar­mine; and I suppose, that these are more, then our woodden Owlyglasse, alias Woodward will answere. And yet these are but falsifications of one kinde. but he hath also runne into diuers other kindes of falsifications. ff. ad leg. Cor­nel. de falsis. For whereas lawe doth declare them to be falsaries, that shall either suborne false witnesses, or father bastards vpon those, who are not their true fathers, or that shall in a testament adde a legacy supposed un­truely to himselfe, or that shall commit any falsehood about coynes, or lawes; it is an easie matter in euery of these points to charge Bellarmine with falsification.

For first he hath produced infinite false witnesses, as for example Clement, Martialis, Anacletus, Africanus, Abdias, Amphilochius, Leontius, Paulinus, Simeon Metaphrastes, and such like false compagnions, that either write fables, or take on them false names.

Secondly, he hath fathered infinite base and paultry ser­mons, and epistles, and other treatises vpon Cyprian, Atha­nasius, Nazianzen, Ambrose, Hierome, Chrysostome, Augu­stine, Cyrill, and other fathers.

Thirdly, he hath alleadged diuers counterfeit decretales [Page 146] vnder the name of Euaristus, Telesphorus, Alexander, Marcel­lus, Syricius, Innocentius, Gelasius, and others, wherein they mention diuers prerogatiues due to the Church of Rome, and to themselues, setting downe as it were false legacies, with their owne false hands, in false and forged testaments or recordes.

Fourthly, for the originall scriptures he hath oftentimes alleadged apocryphall writings, and the olde latine transla­tion, albeit differing from the originall text, corrupting after a sort, Gods eternall testament.

Fifthly, for the pure writings of the fathers, he hath often­times giuen vnto vs the drosse of Peter Lombard, Thomas A­quinas, and other schoolemen: and with them hath also ioyned the corrupt testimonies of legends, and such like trash.

Finally, he hath cited infinit false canons, and counterfeit councels, and actes of councels. And this I will iustifie by diuers thousands of examples, if the woodden detector, or any of his partakers will stand to the quarrel, which he and Rob. Parsons haue begun. I haue also in diuers treatises set out against Bellarmine, discouered diuers thousands of his cor­ruptions. I hope therefore, that our aduersary hereafter wil say, that I haue not slandered that voluminous Cardinall Bellarmine: especially, when he shall haue perused the note following concerning his vntruthes and leasings. Which now according to my promise, I purpose sincerely, and truely to deliuer.

CHAP. VII. A note of certaine notorious vntruths, and lies boldely auouched by Bellarmine.

NExt after falsifications, we are to report some fewe vntruthes boldly auouched by Card. Bellarmine. which albeit he vttered, being yet in mino­ribus, as they call it; yet we are not therefore to estéeme them to be lesse materiall, séeing hee is the Popes principall proctor.

falsification 1 Habemus in eodem testamento ve­teri saith he, Heliam & Helizeum ac filios prophetarum, Lib. de Mo­nach. c. 5. sine vxoribus & diuitijs in hoc mundo vixisse. That is, we learne in the same olde testament, that Helias and Helizeus, and the sons of the Prophets liued without wiues, and riches in this world. A plaine & euident vntruth refuted by a plaine text of scrip­ture 2. Reg. 4.1. where we reade, how a certaine woman of the wiues of the Prophets cried to Elizeus. there also we read, that she had sons likewise. I doubt not therefore, but Ow­lyglasse will confesse this to be a lie.

falsification 2 Likewise in the same place he affirmeth, that almost all the fathers write, that Iohn Baptist was the first founder of monks, and eremites. Ioannem Baptistam saith he, Ibidem. Monachorum & E­remitarum principem fuisse scribunt ferè omnes patres. and af­terward he nameth Nazianzen, Chrysostome, Hierome, Cas­sian, Sozomenus, Isidorus, and Bernard. But this is a nota­rious vntruth consisting of diuers parts. For first this num­ber [Page 148] is farre from almost all the fathers. Secondly, Nazian­zen in the place quoted doth not speake so much as one word of monasticall life, In laudem Basili [...]. much lesse of the vowe of Iohn Baptiste. Thirdly, Chrysostome and Hierome speake not of cloyster monks, but of ermites, that liued in the wildernes. Fourthly, Cassian collat. 18. c. 6. doth make Paule and Antony, and not Iohn B ptiste, the founders of ermites life. Fiftly, Sozomen, lib. 1. c. 12. speaketh of Ermites and that not according to his owne, but according to other mens opinions, Sixtly, Isidore and Bernarde doe not say, that Iohn Baptist was the first founder of eremitical, and monkish life but rather, that Ere­mites went into the wildernes after the example of Elias and Iohn baptist. Finally I. Baptist in nothing was like to monks. for he was not shut vp within a cloyster, nor did he forswere mariage, nor obserue a certaine rule, but was the forerun­ner of our Sauiour, the minister of baptisme, and a greate prophet and a most excellent good man. Furthermore he had course clothing, and a thin diet, and was no tamperer in matters of state. Contrariwise the Iebusites, & other monkes liue in gorgeous houses, fare dayntily, are cladde richely, drinke wine, and albeit they be a sorte of locusts, yet neither care to eate locustes, nor wilde hony. Further they obserue a certaine rule, forsweare mariage, and disturbe states and common welthes, and are neither Préestes nor Pro­phets, nor any way profitable for the Church or common welth.

falsification 3 Speaking of Tertullian & Cyprian he saith, that both of thē spoke of religious wemen or nuns, and such as by solēne vowe had consecrated thēselues to God. Vterque loquitur saith he, de virginibus religiosis, Lib. de mo­nach. c. 5. & p [...]r solennem professionē deo consecra­tis. A matter most vntrue▪ for albeit Tertullian wrote de vir­ginibus velandis, & Cyprian de habitu virginum: yet ye vele and habit was such as those fathers thought fitting for all christi­an wemen. For no man doth thinke it fit, that all christian women should become nonnes and religious women. Se­condly, neither of those fathers talketh of any solemne vowe, or denieth liberty to those Virgines to mary, or thought it fit they should be shut vp in cloysters, or gouerned by peculier [Page 149] orders or rules. But popish nunnes make solemne vowes, and after them may not mary. Beside that they liue in cloi­sters, and are subiect to rules, and yet which is most strange, are not so good maydes as those, which Tertullian and Cypri­an talketh of, though no votaryes.

falsification 4 Speaking of the Apostles: verè primi fuerunt monachi Chris­tiani, saith Bellarmine. that is, most truely the Apostles were the first monkes among Christians. But it is not the first lye, Ibidem. that he made among the Romanistes. Howbeit a lye it is, and that very apparent. For Christ sent his apostles abroade into the world to teach & baptize, and not to liue in eremitages or cloysters. Secondly, the Apostles neuer tooke bond of vowe vpon thē, nor liued vnder monkish law. But saith he they had all thinges common. So had also all the first christians▪ yet it is ridiculous to say, that all Christians of those times were monkes. He alledgeth also Saint Augustines words, lib. 17 de ciuit dei. c. 4. hoc votum potentissimi vouerunt. but by vo­tum there, he vnderstandeth no monkish vowes of obedience chastitie and pouerly; but of leauing all for Christes sake▪ which manner of vow not only the Apostles, but all christi­ans also doe make, and perfourme, as oft as occasion requi­reth.

falsification 5 In his booke de monachis. c. 5. speaking of Luther: asserit mu­lieres, saith he, non nisi ad matrimonium creatas fuisse. that is, he affirmeth, that wemen were created for no other purpose, but for mariage▪ but this is a most impudent vntruth. For Lu­ther hath no such words, nor meaning. In. 1. c [...] 7. For he affirmeth on­ly, & viros & mulieres ad generandā sobolem creatos esse, that is, that both men and wemen were created for bringing of chil­dren into the world. So it is apparent, that he foisteth in his words, non nisi, and turneth that to women, which Luther spoke both of men and wemen, and finally maketh Luther to exclude all other endes of the creation of women, where hée speaketh of one ende, and excludeth none besides that one.

falsification 6 In the same place he auoucheth, that Luther taught, that it was all one to consult, whether a man should mary a wife, as if he should consult, whether he should eat and drinke. dicit. [Page 150] saith Bellarmine, idem esse consultare, sit ne ducēda vxor, & sit ne comedendum & bibendum. But Luthers words do playn­ly discouer his packing & lying. In procem. exeg. in [...]. cor. 7. Stultum est dubitare saith hée, an mulieres copulandae sint matrimonio, vel an aliqua in vxorē d [...]cenda sit. perinde enim quaeri posse, an edendum, vel biben­dum sit. And his meaning is, that when a mans frailty will not permit him to conteine, it is then all one to aske whether a man shall mary a wife, or whether hee shall eat and drinke. Now betwene these words, which are ascribed to Luther by Bellarmine, & the words written by Luther, there is great difference▪ for Luther speaketh indefinitly First, & saith, that it is a folish thing to doubt, whether wemen are to be ioyned in mariage, or not: and then in case he cannot containe, whe­ther a man is to mary a wife or no▪ and Thirdly, he talketh of doubting, and not of consulting betwixt which there is no small difference▪ for of things, which we are to resolue accor­ding to our owne knowledge, it is folly to consult with o­thers yet may we doubt, before we resolue▪ so it appeareth, that Bellarmine leaueth out the indefinit proposition of Lu­ther, and expresseth not Luthers case, where he reporteth his words, and falsely and leudly changeth doubting into consultation.

falsification 7 He doth also affirme, that Luther taught, that Moyses com­manded all the Iewes to marry, so that it was not lawfull by a­ny meanes to be without a wife in the old testament. De monachis c. 6. dicit saith Bellarmine Moysem praecepisse omnibus Iudaeis matrimonium, ita vt nullo modo licuerit in vetere testamento carere vxore. But the words of Luther doe playnly conuince him to haue vttred vntruth. In. 1. cor. 7. For he saith only, in Iudaismo neminem non coniugatum esse oportuisse: that is, that the Iewes ought to be maried. But he doth not say, non licuisse vllo modo in veteri testamento carere vxore, as Bellarmine affirmeth. Nor doth he absolutely deny all exceptions to the ordinary rule & course. Finally; he talketh of the custome of Iewes, and not of an ex­presse written law, whereas Bellarmine notwithstanding maketh him to speake of a written law.

falsification 8 Hée affirmeth that Athanasius telleth, how Antony the er­mite did heare holy Angels in a vision to saye that all his sinnes [Page 151] were remitted, when first he entred into a monasticall life. Lib. de mo­nach. c. 6. Tes­tatur Athanasius in vita Antonij saith Bellarmin, B. Antonium in visione audiuis [...]e sanctos angelos dicentes, omnia pec­cata sibi remissa fuisse, quando monasticam vitam suscepit. A notorious vntruth, notwithout some touch of forgery also▪ for first, ye very discourse of Antonies life, that passeth vnder ye name of Athanasius is forged. Secondly that counterfect fellow saith no more, but that Antonies former sins by Christs boun­ty were sopited or couered. quod priora peccata Christi boni­tate fuissent sopita. of remission of si [...] by vertue of a monasti­call Coule, which Bellarmine intendeth to proue, there is no inkeling.

falsification 9 In his booke de monachis. c. 13. He hath these words; Au­gustinus, Bernardus, Thomas existimant hoc praecepto, diliges dominum deum tuū ex toto corde tuo, simul imperari medium & indicari finem; ideo docent, non posse impleri perfectè hoc praeceptum in hac vita; & tamen non esse praeuaricatorem, Lib. de per­fect. iustitiae. qui non perfecte illud implet. And againe docet idem Augustinus motus inuoluntarios concupiscentiae, licet hoc praecepto pro­hibiti sint, tamen adeo non esse peccata, vt non sit opus dicere pro eis dimitte nobis debita nostra. But in these words he laypeth vp together diuers round lyes. For first false it is-that Saint Augustine saith, that such as fulfill not the lawe, whereby we are to loue God with all our soule and all our strength, are not thereby made transgressors, de spirit. & li­tera [...] c. vlt. but rather the contrary▪ for he sheweth, that it is necessary for euery man to giue that he may receiue, & to forgiue, that it may bee forgiuen him, & in the latter ende of the booke de perfectione iustitiae, hée teacheth vs, necesse esse dicere, dimitte nobis debita nostra, that it is necessary for vs to say, forgiue vs our trespasses. Second­ly, Saint Augustine doth not deny, that motions troubling vs against our willes are sinnes. Thirdly, he speaketh not one word, of shewing the end, and commanding the meanes. Fina [...] ­ly, neither doth Bernard, nor Thomas Aquinas so write, as Bellarmine affirmeth▪ would his cardinalship therfore proue, what he written, and verifie his assertion by their words, he should deliuer himselfe from a note of great falshood and vntruth.

falsification 10 Expounding a testimony out of the first to the Corinthians 9. chapter: Lib. de mo­nach. quo toto capite saith he, Paulus conatur ostendere, se plus fecisse, quàm sibi esset praeceptum, & propterea singula­rem gloriam apud deum meruisse. And afterward he saith, ita exposuerunt omnes patres. that is, the fathers do also expound the Apostle, viz. that it may appeare, that he taught workes of superogation. But neither doth Paul in the whole chapter, nor in any part of the chapter shewe, that he did more, then was commanded, nor doth he signifie, that therefore he merited any singular glory. Secondly, it is vntrue, that all the Fa­thers doe so expound the Apostle, as Bellarmine reporteth. for he citeth none, but Chrysostome, Ambrose and Augustine: whereof Ambrose in 1. cor. 19. doth not so much as once men­tion workes of supererogation. Chrysostome commenting vpon the same chapter, talketh of workes done ouer and a­boue the thing commaunded. But hee speaketh not of the whole lawe, which requireth all, that we can doe; but of some one particular precept. Saint Augustine lib. de ope­re Monachorum c. 5. saith, that Paul did erogate more (ero­gasse amplius) because he did remit that stipend, which hee might haue exacted. So it appeareth, that he speaketh of do­ing more, then was required at his hands, by one particu­lar precept; but not more, then the whole lawe required. Fi­nally, none of these fathers that he speaketh of, mentioneth singular glory, nor saith, that the same is due for workes of supererogation.

falsification 11 Where he citeth Iustine Martyr Apolog. 2. and Tertullian Apologet. c. 9. he telleth vntruth of them both. Iustinus ait saith he, apud nullam gentem coli Caelibatum, vt apud Christi­anos, vbi sunt plurimi vtriusque sexus vsque ad senectutem in virginitate permanentes▪ quod idaem scribit Tertullianus. But neither doth the one, nor the other speake de Caelibatu, in which state of life both widowers and hoore-mongers maye liue, but de virginitate, that is, of chastitie and virginitie, a matter, with which the Romanists haue not much to doe, al­beit their monkes, friers, and priests be Caelibes.

falsification 12 He mistaketh also Hieromes wordes in epist. ad Eustoch. de virginitate. for Hierome saith not, fuisse suo tempore in coe­nobijs [Page 153] homines omnis aetatis pueros, viros, senes: as Bellarmine reporteth lib. de monachis c. 35. for he mentioneth no boies, but deuideth the whole company into senes & paruulos, that is, into the elder sort, and such as were nouices, and paruuli. By which, not children are to be vnderstood, but those, that were newly entred, albeit men of ripe yeares.

falsification 13 In his booke de nocis ecclesiae c. 9. he signifieth, that wee confesse, that the doctrines taught by the Papists were also hol­den by the fathers. He saith directly, that Caluin in diuers pla­ces of his Institutions confesseth, that he dissenteth from all an­tiquitie. Finally, speaking of the Centuriastes: in singulis Centurijs saith he, ad finem quarti capitis annotant omnes fere doctores illius seculi docuisse ea dogmata, quae nos tuemur. All which thrée points are so many vntruthes. for neither do we confesse, that the doctrine of the papists, wherein we dissent from them, is auncient: nor doth Caluin in any place affirme, that he dissenteth from all antiquity: nor doe the writers of the centuries either in so many places, or any one place con­fesse, that all the doctors of euery age almost, did teach the doctrines maintained by papists. Nor finally doth it follow; because Caluin, and they of Magdeburge, or other priuat men doe holde strange points of doctrine, that all our Churches concurre with them; or because in some one point, or two they differ from vs, that therefore they maintaine the whole doctrine of the papists. Wherfore as his premisses be false, so his collections vpon them are fond, foolish and foppish.

falsification 14 In the same chapter he saith, that the Eunomians taught, that no sins could hurt a man, so he had saith. And that this was Simon Magus his heresie to holde, that a man was iustified by grace, and not by workes. Eunomiani docebant non posse ho­mini vlla peccata nocere, modo fidem habeat, vt testatur Augu­stinus lib. de haeresib. c. 54. And againe: haec erat impijssima haeresis Simonis, qui dicebat hominem saluari per gratiam, non per operas iustas. And these heresies he affirmeth to be hol­den by Luther, Caluin, and Brentius and others. But to cast some good colour vpon his accusation, he hath made diuers grosse lies. First, the Eunomians taught not, that no sins could hurt a man, so he had faith: but so he were partaker of that faith, [Page 154] which he taught. Haeres. 54. Docebat Eunomius saith S. Augustine, nihil obesse cuiquam quorumlibet peccatorum perpetrationem, & perseuerantiam, modo eius, quam ille docebat, fidei particeps esset. Secondly, neither doth any of vs, nor did Luther, or Caluin, or any true Christian euer holde, that perseuerance in sinne doth hurt no man▪ nay we say, that he that beléeueth truely, worketh also by charity. Why then doth he charge vs so impudently with this error? Thirdly, we speake of a true faith, and not of the heresie of Eunomius. Fourthly, not Simon Magus, but the Apostle Paul taught, that we are saued by grace. As for the disciples of Simon, they taught, that men are saued by the grace of Simon. Lib. 1. aduers. haeres. c. 20. Docebant saith Irenaeus, ser­uari homines secundum gratiam Simonis, non secundum ope­ras iustas. Fifthly, we say anathema to all, that beléeue to be saued by Simons grace, or the Simoniacal Popes indulgences. Are the papists then not ashamed, to sée their champion ouer­lash so farre in the report of these matters? Finally, we doe not deny, but good workes are the way, we are to walke in, if we meane to attaine the kingdome of heauen, though not the causes of obtaining that kingdome.

falsification 15 He saith further, that as Florinus taught, that God was the author of sinne, Lib. de notis eccles. c. 9. so Caluin did likewise teach. Florini haeresis erat saith Bellarmine, deum esse causam peccatorum. And a­gaine, eadem sine vllo pudore docet Caluinus lib. 1. instit. c. 18. §. 2. Non solum permissu inquit, sed etiam voluntate dei homines peccant. &c. & lib. 3. c. 23. §. 24. dicit non solum dei praeuisione & permissione, sed etiam voluntate in peccatum lapsum esse Adamum. & infra c. 24 §. 14. quod, inquit, aliqui audire verbum dei contemnunt, ipsorum est prauitas, sed in hanc prauitatem à deo addicti sunt, vt in eis potentiam suam & seueritatem ostendat. He doth say also, that Luther, Peter Mar­tyr, and Melancthon held the same opinion. Dicit Melancthon in comment. in c. 8. ad Romanos saith he, ita fuisse opus dei Iudae proditionem, ac Pauli conuersionem. But here néedeth a fellow with a talye, to score vp the Cardinals maine lyes. For first Caluin doth expressely deny, that God is the author of sinne, as may appeare by his first booke of his institutions chapt. 18. Secondly, it came neuer in Luthers, Peter Martyrs, [Page 155] or Melancthons minde, to holde any such wicked opinion, as Bellarmine doth ascribe vnto them. Thirdly, Caluin hath not these wordes, non solum permissu, sed etiam voluntate dei ho­mines peccare; or that God is author, or cause of sinne. Nay he directly teacheth, that the next cause of sinne, is the depra­uation of mans will. Fourthly he forgeth lies, where he saith, that Caluin writeth, that men are addicted to doe euill by God, and that Adam did sinne by the will of God. for neither of these points will be found in his third booke of Caluins insti­tutions, from whence Bellarmine would seeme to deriue thē. Fifthly, he doth impudently and without shame charge Lu­ther and Peter Martyr with teaching, that God is authour of sinne. And if Robert Parsons be not able to alleadge their wordes, out of which this may be proued, he cannot deny, but that the Cardinall is a lyar. Finally, he doth slander Phi­lip Melancthon, and without colour belye him▪ for if Melan­cthon had taught any such wicked doctrine, as he reporteth; then would he neuer haue fayled to set downe his wordes. Which not being done, we will not fayle to charge him with vntruth▪ which I doubt not but Rob. Parsons will discharge him of, if he can.

falsification 16 Origenis fuit error, saith Bellarmine, infernum nihil esse, nisi conscientiae horrorem, teste Hieronymo in epistola ad Auitum. Ibidem. idem docet Caluinus lib. 3. instit. c. vltimo. §. vlt. But he doth impudently belye Caluin. for he neuer thought, much lesse taught any such matter. if he had done, Bellarmine vseth not to conceale his wordes. He belyeth also both Hierome and Origen, as I haue shewed [...] the chapter [...]ing before.

falsification 17 He saith very impudently, that in England a woman is our chiefe bishop. Et iam reipsa saith he, Lib. de notis eccles. c. 9. Caluinistis in Anglia mu­lier quaedam est summus pontifex. A shamelesse lye of the Popes chiefe parasite. for albeit we giue her Maiesty su­preme authority in ecclesiasticall [...]am [...]es; yet the same doth not include any power of ministeriall [...] in preaching the word, and administring the sacraments, or vsing the keyes; nor doth it comprehend more, then doth belong to the French king, and all other kings, if they will take it, and not suffer the same to be vsurped by Antichrist, and his adherents. [Page 156] His slandrous wordes, where hee like a slaue of antichrist doth call vs Caluinists, doth shew his had humor, and howe without lying and rayling, neither he, nor his consorts can maintaine their credit.

falsification 18 Proclus Haereticus apud Epiphanium haeres. 64. saith Bellar­mine, Ibidem. dicebat peccatum in renatis semper viuere. concupiscen­tiam enim verè esse peccatum, nec tolli per baptismum, sed so­piri per fidem, quod idem docuerunt Meslaliani haeretici apud Theodoretum lib. 4. de haeret. fabulis. haec est ipsissima senten­tia Lutheri artic. 2. & 31. Item Philippi in locis communibus c. de peccato Originis, & Caluini lib. 4. instit c. 15. §. 10. But to report somewhat, that may tend to slander vs, he hath re­ported a number of lies all vpon a heape. for neither did Pro­clus say, that concupiscence was sinne, and that it was not ta­ken away by baptisme, but onely made dull by faith: nor did the Messalians teach any such matter. nor doth either Epi­phanius say that of Proclus, or Theodoret of the Messalians, that Bellarmine reporteth. nor doth either Luther, or Melan­cthon, or Caluin teach, that sinne doth liue alwaies in the re­generat. Proclus beléeued, that the body was vinculum ani­mae, and that the soules were created before the body: which was also the heresie of Origen. But this which Bellarmine talketh of, he neuer taught, nor was any such thing condem­ned in him as an heresie. Luther, Melancthon, Caluin and we all doe holde, that euery christian man ought to mortifie his earthly members, and concupiscences, and that some doe it more, some lesse. Neither doth any man teach, that con­cupiscence doth reigne, or liue in the regenerat, as this lying and slandrous mouth affirmeth.

falsification 19 Whereas Nouatus denyed reconciliation to such as had fallen in time of persecution, Ibidem. or as Bellarmine saith, power to reconcile men to God, otherwise then by baptisme, he char­geth Caluin with this heresie, as if Caluin did deny reconci­liation to repentant sinners, or had said, that the church hath no power to reconcile such as are fallen. As not this therfore grosse impudency, to lye so manifestly? But saith he, Caluin denied, that there was any sacrament of repentance, beside bap­tisme. as if he, that denied this, must néedes say, that the [Page 157] church hath no power to reconcile sinners to God. This certes, is not onely vntruth, but want also of all vnderstan­ding, and modesty.

falsification 20 He doth impudently affirme, that Luther and Caluin deny­ing freewill, doe fall into the heresie of Manicheisme. Mani­chaeorum est, inquit Hieronymus, saith Bellarmine, Ibidem. hominum damnare naturam, & liberum auferre arbitrium. & Augustinus de haeres. c. 46. peccatorum originem, inquit, non tribuunt Manichaei libero arbitrio. idem apertè sectarij omnes. Now by sectaries he vnderstandeth all, that professe the truth. Af­terward he doth specially name Luther and Caluin. but if he had any shame, he would not haue said, that either Luther, or Caluin doth condemne the nature of man, as the Mani­cheyes doe, or teach that man doth sinne necessarily, and not by his fréewill. And albeit they deny the force of mans will (which is called commonly liberum arbitrium) to be suffici­ent to vnderstand the will of God, or to performe the same; yet it doth not therefore follow, that they sauour of Mani­cheisme. But how the papists sauour of this heresie, we haue shewed heretofore.

falsification 21 Ho [...] tamen est magis impius Caluinus Manichaeo, quod Ma­nichaeus deo malo tribuat peccatorum originem, Caluinus deo bono. Herein, saith Bellarmine, Ibidem. doth Caluin shew himselfe more wicked, then the Manichey, because he attributed vnto an euill god the beginning and cause of sinne, and Caluin to a good God. But if he passed not the Manicheyes, and all o­ther heretikes in impudent lying, he would not haue thus falsly affirmed this of Caluin, who in his first booke of institu­tions chap. 18. doth expressely prooue, that God is not the au­thor of sinne; and in all places doth detest this opinion. Why then did not Bellarmine alleadge his wordes, if he had said any such matter? In the place quoted certes he teacheth the contrary of that which Bellarmine affirmeth, and bellow­eth out against him.

falsification 22 He is not ashamed also to affirme, that all of vs teach, that the visible church hath been lost now this many yeares. Ibidem.eccle­siam visibilem à multis seculis perijsse saith he, & nunc solum esse in septentrionalibus partibus, vbi ipsi sunt, docent omnes, [Page 158] praecipuê Caluinus lib. 4. instit. c. 2. §. 2. But he doth belye Caluin, and all the rest. for we beléeue, that in Italy there is a visible church now, albeit the Pope sée it not. and that the church at all times consisted not of spirits, but of men visible, albeit euery one did not know them. neither doe we say, that the church at any time shall faile, or hath failed. nor is this ly­ing cardinall able to prooue it out of our writings.

falsification 23 Of Luther, Melancthon, and Caluin he affirmeth, that they cannot deny, Ibidem. but that the seeds of Arianisme are sowne in their writings. Which is a lye most odious and malicious. for all the points of Arianisme they not only detested, but haue lear­nedly refuted. and those proofes that Bellarmine bringeth in his preface to his treatise, de Christo, are nothing but rayling termes, and proofes of his owne malice.

falsification 24 He saith, Iouinian taught, that a man after baptisme could not sinne, Ibidem. especially if he were truely baptized, and the same error he doth impute to Caluin. But he lyeth both of the one and the other. for neither did Iouinian teach so, nor Caluin: though by his lying reportes he doe endeuour to conioyne them in one opinion.

falsification 25 Hierome doth impute these heresies to Vigilantius, first, that he taught, that the bodies of the Saints were vncleane, and to be throwne out: next, that the prayers of the Apostles and Martyrs are not heard: and lastly, that the ministers of the Church ought to be married. But if Bellarmine do say, that in these thrée points we agrée with Vigilantius, Ibidem. as he doth; then doth he make a thréefold lye. For neither doe we allow those, that would haue mens bodies thrown out to the beasts of the field, and fowles of the ayre, or otherwise vse the bo­dies of holy men departed this life vnreuerently; nor doe we doubt, but that God doth heare the prayers of the church tri­umphant; nor doe we thinke any man is to be constrained either to marry or not to marry. Would thē Bellarmine shew more plaine and true dealing in his disputations, his rea­ders would better like of him, and his cause.

falsification 26 Of Pelagius he affirmeth, that he taught that righteousnesse is lost by euery little sinne, Ibidem. and that therefore euery sinne is mortall. and this saith he, is confirmed by the testimony of [Page 159] Hierome lib. 2. contra Pelagianos. But neither was this the error of Pelagius, who rather, as the papists suppose & teach, held, that a regenerat man may be without all sin, and that he is able to performe the law; nor doth Hierome affirme any such thing of Pelagius.

falsification 27 Of Zuinglius he reporteth, that he did simply deny original sinne to be in euery man. He saith also, Ibidem. that Caluin and Bucer deny originall sinne to be in the children of the faithfull. Mat­ters vtterly false, and which by the whole course of their wri­ting is refuted. neither doth it follow, albeit the children of the faithfull be holy, that therefore they are not borne in ori­ginall sinne. For this holynesse they do not otherwise ascribe vnto them, but in regard of spirituall regeneration, and re­mission of sinnes. But if it be Pelagianisme to teach, that o­riginall sinne is not in all men, then are the papists Pelagians by Bellarmines confession, which exempt the blessed virgin from this sinne.

falsification 28 Xenaias persa primus palam asseruit, saith Bellarmine, Chri­sti & sanctorum imagines non esse venerandas. testis Nicepho­rus lib. 16. c. 27. But this lye is confuted by the law of God against the worship of images, by S. Augustine, that con­demneth Marcellina for worshipping and burning incense to the images of Iesu & Paul, by Epiphanius and other fathers, which I haue cited as witnesses against the idolatry of pa­pists in my former challenge. He doth also falsifie Nicepho­rus, in adding these wordes primus palam, vnto him.

falsification 29 In the 14. chapter de notis ecclesiae: he telleth vs, howe Dominick raysed three dead men to life, and that he and Fran­cis did many miracles, as they are record do in the discourse of their liues. He saith also, that Francis de Paula did great mi­racles, and that Xauier a Iebusite did cure deafe and dumb men, and those that were sicke of the palsey, and restored one dead man to life. But all these report [...] of miracles are nothing but miraculous lyes. for Ignatius doing no miracles, how is it likely that Xauier should doe so many?

falsification 30 In the 17. chapter of the same booke, he telleth how Luther died sodenly, that Oecolampadius was found dead in his bed, lying downe in good health, that Carolstadius was killed by [Page 160] the diuell, that Caluin died eaten of wormes, as did Antiochus and Herod and others. Lies deuised by men hyred to rayle vpon honest men, and refuted by the histories of their life and death, and by the testimony of all that were present at their endes.

falsification 31 In his second booke de eucharistia c. 6. he hath these words: Irenaeus probat Christum esse creatorem, ex eo quod panis fit corpus Christi per consecrationem. But Irenaeus hath no such matter. nay if he should haue vsed any such argument, then must it follow, that Christs body is created, as oft as masse is saide. Furthermore it appeareth by the place of Irenae­us lib. 4. contr. haeres. c. 34. that he disputeth not against those, that denied Christ to be the creator, but which denyed God to be the creator. And that he prooueth, not as saith Bellarmine, because by consecration the bread is made Christs body, but because heretikes offered to God bread, which by consecra­tion was made Christs body, and because this sacrifice had béene vngratefull, vnlesse it had consisted of Gods creatures.

Finally, because it were long to set downe the particulars of all sorts of lyes vttered by Bellarmine, this I doe giue the reader to vnderstand in generall, that almost all his reports of his lying legends, vnwritten traditions, feyned miracles, new deuised prophecies, and of the fathers testimonies concer­ning the speciall points of the late Romish religion establi­shed in Trent, are either plaine lyes, or vntruly let downe by him. and that shall euery man perceiue, that listeth to reade my bookes de missa papistica, de Pontifice Rom. de purgatorio, de ecclesia, de concilijs, de monachis and others set out a­gainst him; especially if he list diligently to com­pare the fathers writings with that poyson, which he like a spider hath sucked out of them.

CHAP. VIII. A Catalogue of certaine lies and falsi­fications of Caesar Baronius, taken out of a smal part of the beginning of his first booke of Annales.

NOw least Bellarmine should séeme to be in lying and forging singular, I will adioine vnto him his fellow Cae­sar Baronius a cardinall forger and ly­ar, and one of all the authors that e­uer I read, that most impudently a­buseth and detorteth scriptures con­trary to the intentiō of the holy ghost to serue his owne humour.

falsification 1 In the front of his booke, hauing placed the image of the Romish church in forme of a woman, with a heauy woodden crosse on her shoulder, and the triple crowne vpon her left hand, with two great keyes of the Popes sellar, as it should séeme, hanging downe vnder it, and on the one side placing this word, vicit haereses, and on the other, subegit gentes: he doth giue vs to vnderstand, that hee meaneth to tell little truth in his booke, that telleth so many lies in the first front and face of it. For first it is most vntrue, that this Romish church, that is now possessed of the triple crowne, was euer sub­iect to the crosse of Christ Iesus. For the Pope, he claymeth a power aboue all Emperors, and liueth in all delightes and pleasures, and though he cary with him headlong into hell great multitudes of soules; yet may no man say to him, do­mine cur ita facis? His cardinals also and other adherents [Page 162] liue like princes without all feare and danger, vnlesse it be in regard they feare their panches. Finally, all these persecute o­thers and are not persecuted themselues.

falsification 2 Secondly he lyeth impudently, where he signifieth, that Christ gaue the keyes to the Pope, and to his adherents. For he gaue them to Peter, & to such as should succeede him in fée­ding Christs lambes, and that by preaching the Gospell and administring the sacraments, and ruling the Church ac­cording to instructiōs giuen them by Christ, and now contei­ned in the Apostles writinges. But the Pope is now become an earthly potentate; he féedeth not, but rather cutteth the throates of Christs lambes: his followers haue adulterated the faith, and changed the institution of Christs sacraments and now doe rather handle clauas quam claues: that is rather clubbes, then keyes, murdring as many, as will not suffer the Pope, and his masse préestes with their counterfect keyes, to creepe into the secretes, both of their consciences, and their worldly estates.

falsification 3 False it is also, that this latter Romish Church hath subdu­ed heresies, being it selfe ouercome and ouergrowne with he­resies, and being like to a large fielde ouercomme with wéedes. And this I haue shewed at large in my former chal­lenge in the chapter of Romish heresies.

falsification 4 Neither can Baronius shew in all his voluminous legends, that the true Church in time paste did worship the wooden crosse, as the Pope, and Baronius, and others doe. If then hée by his wooman represent the true Church, he lyeth. if he re-represent the Romish church, and the purple hore apocalyps 17. He saith truely. For with the superstitious worship of the crosse, and the Popes tyranny and false doctrine shée is much oppressed, and greuously burdened. Yet that is nothing to this purpose,

falsification 5 Furthermore all histories shewe, that sence the Pope be­gan to weare the triple crowne, and to shew himselfe in that height of pride, which Baronius representeth vnto vs in this figure, ye Saracenes, Turkes & Gentiles haue preuayled against the pope, & his followers, as may appeare by diuers disastrous attempts made against them for the regayning of the land of [Page 163] Palestine commonly called the holy lande. Baronius therefore playnly coggeth, where he telleth vs, how the popes haue pre­uayled against the Gentiles. for all the victoryes they haue gotten, haue rather béene to the preiudice of christian princes from whome they haue taken Rōe, Italy & other territories, thē of Turkes and Heathen, who by the popes false doctrine and turbulent gouernment, haue subdued a great parte of the christian world and yet are suffered for their idolatry and he­resie to preuaile against papists.

falsification 6 He doth also paynt the holy ghost houering ouer the popes triple crowne, & the blessed virgin with her son in her lappe as gouerning the world, and Peter and Paule supporting the wor­ship of our lady which doe all containe notorious lyes. For we may not thinke, that the holy Ghost hath any thing to do with the mayntenance of the popish triple crowne, or that these men were inspired with gods spirit, which leauing the preaching of the Gospell sought for triple crownes & earth­ly kingdomes. Secondly it is impious, to teach, yt our sauiour Christ is now an infant, or that he hath communicated his gouerment with his mother. Thirdly, neither doth Peter nor any other Disciple of Christ teach or maintaine the Romish doctrine concerning the worshippe of our Lady, and the Popes authority. All these figures therefore are lying and false figures.

falsification 7 Sixtus quintus in his decretall epistle profired before Ba­ronious his bookes saith, that he hath faithfully and diligent­lye reported the stories of the Church, and deliuered the true fountaines of apostolicall traditions. speaking of his booke he calleth it opus fideliter scriptū, and not only reporteth so of his bookes, that already were published, but of those, that yet he had not séene, prophesiyng belike of Caesar Baronius his fu­ture workes, perfections, and exploytes. speaking of his dili­gence in describing of Romish traditions: he saith, that in his bookes of Annales, apostolicarum traditionum purissimi fontes aperiuntur. But this is a notorious and large vntruth. for not only his traditiōs are fabulous, but his discourse most vaine and false, being grounded, for the most part, vpon lying legendes, counterfect sermons, and orations set out vnder [Page 164] the names of fathers, lewd authors, and such as Simeon Me­taphrastes, Anastasius, Gratian, Iuo, Theodorus Studites, & cer­tein bookes, that neuer yet sawe light, and Baronius allow­ing this Epistle of Sixtus must néedes proue himselfe a lyar.

falsification 8 The yeare and precise time of Christs natiuity being the ground of all his worke, it must néedes follow, that if he faile in that, then that his whole booke is nothing, but a packe of lies. That the whole worke is layed vpon that point, himselfe confesseth. haec basis quaedam, ac fundamentum annalium esto, saith he. Appara [...]us ad annales ecle­siast. But that he hath erred in that point, it is very probable. Epiphanius in panario haeres. 51. saith that our Saui­our was borne Augustus and Siluanus being consuls. Seuerus hist. lib. 2. saith hee was borne when Sabinus and Ruffinus were consuls▪ why then should we rather beléeue Cassiodorus, whōe Baronius followeth, then the other two? But if this were not erroneous, yet in the supputation of yeares continually he erreth reducing matters rather to the false tradition of the Romish Breuiaries, and other rituall bookes, then to the truth.

falsification 9 This sentence which he placeth in the front of his booke, in petra exaltauit me, & nunc exaltauit caput meum super inimi cos meos; he doth falsely apply to the Romish church, contra­ry to the meaning of the Prophet Psal. 26. For he speaketh of himselfe. Beside that, he saith abscondit me in tabernaculo suo [...] in die malorum protexit me in abscondito tabernaculi sui. yt is, he hath hidden me in his tabernacle: and in the dayes of my trou­ble hath protected me in the secret place of his tabernacle. But the Romanistes will not graunt, that the Church of Rome is a congregation hidden, or yt God doth place the same in ye se­cret place of his tabernacle. Furthermore, that which the prophet speaketh of himselfe, cannot by any meanes be applyed to the Pope, or Romish Church▪ for it is not God, that hath aduanced the Pope to this height of pride, nor doe those here­sies, which the Church of Rome maynteineth, nor those mas­sacres, and impostures which shée worketh proceede from god. Finally God shall destroy antichrist with the breath of his mouth, and shall not exalt him, nor suffer him long to be thus exalted.

falsification 10 In his epistle to Sixtus quintus he giueth the title of Vniuer­sal or Catholike to the Romish Church, and doubteth not to affirme the traditions of the Romish Church to be holy and auncient: pro sacrarum traditionum antiquitate saith he, ac sā ­ctae Romanae catholicae ecclesiae potestate. but of the prophane­nesse and nouelty of the Romish traditions, I haue spoken al­ready both in my challenge, and in my bookes de missa, and o­ther treatises against Bellarmine, and I doubt not, but there­by euery man may conuince him of lying both concerning the holinesse, and also the antiquitie of Romish traditions. To affirme, that the Romish church is catholike concerning faith vniuersally taught, I haue declared in my challenge, to be most false▪ to affirme, that the Romish Church is the vniuer­sall and catholike Church in regard of time and place, is not only most false, but also most absurd▪ for were the Church of Rome the true church, as it was sometime; yet as wel may we call London all england, as the Romish Church the catho­like Church.

falsification 11 In the same epistle most impudently he applyeth these words of Iacob Genes. 27. surge sede, & comede de venatione mea, vt benedicat mihi anima tua: to himselfe, as if he had béene a hunting about Rome, and brought Sixtus quintus a goate, or some like venaison; and as if Sixtus quintus were a prophet like to Iacob. And to fitte the words to his purpose he addeth to the text, the word Pater, and taketh away the word sede: and saith, surge pater & comede de venatione mea, vt benedi­cat mihi anima tua. Which is a false and leud kinde of abu­sing of scriptures.

falsification 12 Concerning the visible monarchy of the Pope he telleth, if not a visible, yet a very palpable lye. In praefat. Catholicae ecclesiae visi­bilem monarchiam saith he, à Christo domino institutam super Petrum fundatam, ac eius legitimos verosque successores roma­nos nimirum pontifices inuiolatè conseruatam &c. demonstra­bimus. But if Christ had apointed any such visible monar­chy, it is strange, that neither the Apostles, nor first church of christians could euer sée it. Againe it is absurd to thinke, that generall councels would haue made lawes, if there had béene a generall monarke apoynted ouer them. Thirdly if Pe­ter [Page 166] had béene a monarke, yet it is absurde to say, that the vi­sible monarchy is founded vpon him. For no man saith, that the kingdōe is founded vpon the King, neither is it probable, the foundation being inuisible, that the building should bée visible. Finally, this being a ground of his legendicall fa­bles, that the bishops of Rome succeeded Peter in the visible monarchy of the church, it must néedes follow, if this ground faile him, the cardinall lyeth in euery page of his annales, and as often, as he talketh of this matter. But that neither Peter was constituted monarke of the church, nor the bishops of Rome haue succeeded in any such phantasticall monarchy, I haue at large proued in my booke de pontifice Rom. set out against Bellarmine, some fowre or or fiue yeares sence.

falsification 13 Out of Clement. lib. strom. 6. most simply and falsely, he af­firmeth, Apparat. p. 17. Cod. Antuerp. that as the Iewes knew God by the prophets, so God did separat from the commō multitude of the Gentiles, the most excellent of the philosophers, and made them capable of Gods beneficence. He alledgeth also an apocryphal text out of Paule and seemeth to affirme, that some Gentiles did knowe Christ.

falsification 14 He saith, that the church of Ara coeli in Rome was built by Constantine in memoriam dei genitricis Mariae: In apparat. ad annal. eccls. and so called for that Augustus the emperor being admonished by a Sybille did there see the virgine Mary high aboue in the aire with christ in her armes, and built an altar in that place, where he sawe the vision. Matters very fabulous. for neither doth any authenti­call story affirme, that Christ was made knowne to Augustus, nor is it likely, that the blessed virgin and her sonne should be transported out of Iudea to be shewed to Augustus at Rōe, nor did any Sybille liue in Augustus time, nor could he learne when our Sauiour Christ would appeare in the ayre, by the bookes of the Sybilles, nor doth there appeare any such mat­ter in the Sybilles writinges. It should seeme therefore, that Baronius was abused with some idle tale of the friers of hara poreorum, that dwell in the house called Ara coeli. & the rather I do beléeue it for that no churches were built in the honor of the blessed virgin in the time of Constantine, neither was shee [Page 167] then in playne termes called dei genitrix.

falsification 15 Vpon the credit of Orosius he is bould to tell vs, that in the place, where now the Church of our lady standeth beyonde Ti­bre, a certaine founteine ran oile a whole day together▪ and not content herewith, he affirmeth, that Callistus bishop of Rōe, (who liued long before the councell of Nice) built there a large Church in the honor of the mother of God. Meruit locus saith he, nobilissima memoria illustrari, ecclesia nimirum ampli­ssima dei genitricis titulo à Callisto pontifice prima omnium, Ibidem. quarum extet memoria, olim erecta. Matters not only false, but incredible. For what probabilitie is there, that in the times of persecution, when Christians did hide themselues from their enemies, Callistus should erect so braue a fabrike▪ as that Church is? or what reason had Nestorius and o­ther heretikes to deny the blessed virgin to be the mother of God, if so be in Rome so many churches had beene built in honorem dei genitricis, as Baronius reporteth?

falsification 16 Out of apocryphall writings he telleth vs, how many sis­ters Anna the mother of Mary had, Ibidem. and that shee was but once maried, and bore Mary in her hold yeares, after shee had made a vowe to consecrat her to the Lord. And these are the braue traditions, that Sixtus quintus commendeth vnto vs, as comming from most pure fountaines. But if we are to giue no more credit to scriptures, then to such traditions ac­cording to the determination of the conuenticle of Trent, with a little helpe this cardinall will discredit the scriptures. For neither are these things to be found other where then in legendes, nor was it a fashion in the ancient time to con­secrat nonnes to God, nor doe we reade of many such vowes.

falsification 17 Out of Epiphanius he doth likewise alleadge a certaine tradition, how an Angell told Ioachim, the father of Mary be­ing in the desert, that his wife had conceiued▪ Ibidem. and out of Gre­gorius Nyssenus in orat. in Natal. domini: that Anna the mother of Mary went into sanctū sanctorū, & there prayed, (séeing mo­thers had more honor, then those that were barren) that she might not be depriued of the benefit of lawe, but might bee a mother. And that then shee did vowe, that shee would conse­crat [Page 168] vnto God, that which should be borne vnto her▪ but we doe not reade, that Angels did in scriptures foretell the birth of any, but of great and singular men. Againe, the law tel­leth vs, that women might not come into sanctum sanctorum. Thirdly, we finde not, what seruice women did in the temple, that the holy virgin should be consecrated to Gods seruice. Finally, those which report these strange things, doe not agrée together, as may appeare by the conference of the reporte of Epiphanius haeres. 79. aduers. Collyrid. with Gregory Nys­sens oration in Natali domini, and Hieromes epistle ad Chro­matium & Heliodorum tom. 9.

falsification 18 Of the blessed virgin he bringeth a report out of Euodius, that she was presented into the temple at the age of three years, Ibidem. and there liued eleuen yeares, and was afterward by the hands of the priests deliuered to Ioseph to be kept. Trimula cum es­set saith he, in templum praesentata, ibi in sanctis sanctorum traduxit annos vndecim. deinde verò sacerdotum manibus Jo­seph ad custodiam est tradita. Matters deuised by idle fel­lowes, not without the suggestion of Satan, as it should séeme▪ for when he could not discredit the gospell, then he deuised o­ther fables, which being either false, or improbable might bring the truth of christian religion into question. That the virgin Mary should remaine in sanctis sanctorum, is against the lawe▪ Exod. 30. & Hebr. 9. for thither went the h [...]gh priest onely once a yeare. That she should be presented at three yeares of age into the temple, is against reason▪ for what seruice could a childe of those yeares do? againe, where are women commanded to serue in the temple? Thirdly, the priests kéeping her eleuen yeares, as a thing consecrated to God, they had no reason to deliuer her ouer at the time of most danger to be kept by Io­seph. Finally, the treatises set foorth vnder the name of E­uodius, Gregorius Nysse [...]us, Damascenus, Germanus, Andre­as Cretensis, Georgius Nicomediensis, and Cedrenus, allead­ged by Baronius, are counterfeit, and differ much one from another. Is it not therefore much better, to content our selues with the history of the gospell, that reporteth that, which was necessary to be knowne concerning the birth of our Sauiour, and the holynesse of the blessed virgin, and to [Page 169] omit such vaine fables, as both to Iewes and gentiles make christian religion contemptible and ridiculous, and yet haue no sufficient testimony, either of the Apostles, or other au­thenticall writers?

falsification 19 Whereas a brasen lauer, and the base of it, is said to be made of the glasses of women, Exod. 38. that watched at the doore of the tabernacle; Baronius doth gather of it, that there were certaine women, which renouncing the pompes and delightes of the world, did together with the things they possessed, especially such as were intisements to sinne, mancipate and consecrate themselues, to the seruice of God, and giuing themselues to continuall prayers, did watch at the doore of the tabernacle. But séeing God appointed all the ministeries, and seruices of his tabernacle, and appointed no seruice to be done of wo­men at the gate thereof, it is a most ridiculous conceit of an idle braine to beleeue, that these women did any such ima­gined seruice at the gate of the tabernacle. Beside that, it were very strange, if so many women were employed to the seruice of the tabernacle, as that a lauer and a base for it might be made of the trimming or cases of their glasses, that we should finde no mention of them in scriptures. Finally, the description of the tabernacle, tents, and orders of the Is­raelites, which doe not import, or giue any signification of such an order of women, but rather the contrary, doth cléerly refute this vaine fiction, deuised without colour of reason, or testimony of good authors.

falsification 20 He telleth vs further, a tedious fable of the holy virgins vow of virginity▪ but if he will make his report good, Pag. 33. & 34. hée must shew first, that women among the Israelites did vowe virginity, and the rather, for that we reade, that it was a re­proach for women of that nation, not to be mothers of chil­dren. Secondly he must shew, that young women before the age of fourtéene did make such vowes. Thirdly he must an­swere and cleare those places of scripture, that say she was betrothed to Ioseph. for after solemne vowes Nunnes nei­ther marry, nor are betrothed. Finally he must bring vs bet­ter proofes, then supposals of Epiphanius and Augustine, and a counterfeit tale vnder the name of Gregorye of Nyssa. [Page 170] For S. Augustine, or at least he, that lurketh vnder that ho­ly fathers name saith, that vowes of virginity did not then stand with the fashions of the Israelites. Lib. de virgi­nit. c. 4. He signifieth also, that the holy virgin thought it impossible, hauing once vowed her maidenhead to God, that she should know a man. But that sheweth, that all the Romish Nunnes are most vnlike to this holy virgin▪ for albeit they vow and sweare, and are walled vp, so that none come at them; yet they neither think it a matter impossible, nor difficult to know men, as experi­ence and diuers witnesses can testifie, and the Romanistes know very well, if they durst speake it.

falsification 21 Diuers auncient fathers testifie, that Ioseph the spouse of the blessed virgin, had by his first wife diuers children; and namely Hyppolytus, as witnesseth Nicephorus hist. lib. 2. c. 3. Origenes in Matthaei c. 13. Eusebius hist. lib. 2. c. 1. Epipha­nius haeres. 28. 51. 78. Nyssenus homil. de resurrect. Christi homil. 2. Chrysostomus homil. de annunt. Virg. Euthymius in Matth. c. 2. Hilarius in Matth. can. 1. Ambrosius in epist. ad Galat. And yet all this notwithstanding Baronius saith, this is but an apocryphall fable. Why then should we beléeue his apocryphall fables testified by one or two witnesses on­ly, and that in writings very doubtfull, séeing he will not be­léeue this narration, that is confirmed, as himselfe confes­seth, by many fathers? Further, why should we beléeue him, that Iohn Baptist was conceiued in September, in the time of the solemne fast, or in that forme, which he reporteth? And why should he desire any to giue credit to his narration, con­cerning the city of Zachary S. Iohn Baptists father, and the sanctification of S. Iohn Baptist in his mothers wombe, for which he alleadgeth no proofe, séeing he will not beléeue o­thers, that bring testimonies of fathers▪

falsification 22 Saint Luke sheweth, that Christ was baptized going vp­on the thirtéeth yeare of his age: Luc. 3. Iesus erat incipiens saith he, quasi annorum triginta. and so doe most fathers and other learned men expound Lukes words. But Baronius, to main­taine the credit of the Romish ordinall, will haue Lukes wordes to be so expounded, as if he were going vpon the age of one and thirty, when he was baptized. But if this were [Page 171] so, then would Saint Luke haue said, quasi annorum trigin­ta & vnius.

falsification 23 In the accompt of years, from the beginning of the world vntill Christs time, he followeth the tradition of the Romish church, that séemeth to allow the translation of the seuenty interpreters, rather then the Hebrew text. But what is this else, but to digresse from the canon of originall scriptures, to follow either corrupt translations, or vnwritten traditions?

falsification 24 The scriptures say, that our Sauiour was borne in Beth­lehem, and in a stable, and that he was laide in a manger▪ and albeit the place was very meane for the king of heauen and earth to be borne in; yet it is very much to be presumed, that there was neither Oxe nor Asse in the roome▪ for they are no fit compagnions for men and women, especially for a woman being with childe. But Baronius by vnwritten traditions issuing from that pure fountaine, which Sixtus quintus speaketh of, hath found, that our Sauiour Christ was borne in spelunca that is, in a caue, within the ground. Saint Matthew calleth it a house, but he findeth it was no house, but a denne or caue. He findeth also that Christ was borne in this caue, which is some prety way out of Bethlehem▪ for so Burchard in his description of the holy land part. 1. c. 7. testifieth. He saith further, that our Sauiour was laid in a manger cut out of the rocke, and proueth it by the testimony of Hierome; albeit we reade but of few mangers cut out of rockes, and although afterward he saith it was of wood▪ and so must he say, vnlesse he will deny that to be the manger, that is shewed in the Church of our Lady ad praesepe, in Rome. He alleadgeth Chrysostome also, that saith the man­ger was of earth or clay. Finally he beareth vs in hand, that there was an Oxe and an Asse tyed in that stable, and thinketh it sufficiently proued, because Hierome alluding to the words of the prophet, saith, that when Christ was borne, the Oxe knew his owner, and the Asse his masters crybbe▪ and this he alleadgeth out of the third of Abacuck, where no such thing is to be found. Of all which traditions, the sole reason is this, that he may maintaine the credit of the manger, which together with hey they shew at Rome as a holy relique. He [Page 172] endeuoureth also by these fables to vpholde the pilgrimage to the holy land, where little is remaining to be séene, but holes, dennes, rockes and mountaines. But if he beléeue these traditions as well as the gospell; a man of small lear­ning may see, that he is a man of a strange faith.

falsification 25 He telleth, that the swadling clouts, wherein our Saui­our was first wrapped, are religiously kept, and that a church was built in honour of them, and a holyday assigned to keepe the memoriall of them. But his best witnesse of them is Li­pomanus; a man whose lies a man may feele with his hands. The Apostles certes, neuer taught vs to kéepe such reliques, or ragges rather. neither doth any authenticall s [...]ry report any such thing. Nay, whosoeuer will examine them nar­rowly, shall soone sée the notorious impostures of the Roma­nists, that deuise and maintaine these superstitions, not for any other purpose, then for their owne credit and gaine.

falsification 26 The wisemen, that came from the East, if we will beléeue him, were three kings. but he maketh kings without king­domes, and like his holy father the Pope, by [...]is charter or testimony giueth kingdomes away at his pleasure. Very vnlike it is, certes, that thrée kings should consort together, and take such a iourney putting themselues, not onely in the mercy of Herod a most cruell and couetous king, but also of all the kings and states, by whom in their iourney they pas­sed. He telleth vs also, that they were Arabians. but he know­eth, that Clement of Alexandria, Chrysostome, Cyril, Theodo­ret, and Leo sometime bishop of Rome saith they came out of Persia. Basil and Hierome suppose, they came out of Chaldaea. Séeing then all these countries are to the Eastward of Iudea, what reason hath any to beléeue Baronius, rather then these fathers? I looked also that the Cardinall should haue tolde vs the names of the kings, and how their bodies came to Collein, and other places. for the Romish tradition is, that their names are Gaspar, Melchior, & Baltasar, or such like, and that their bodies are at Collein, and as they say, at other pla­ces to. Percase as they are said to be thrée, so euery one had thrée bodies. and this is the assurance of Romish traditions, on which the papists build their faith.

falsification 27 He hath also found out the very day, when the wise men came to Bethlehem, Annal. to. 1. de anno Chri­sti. 1. and for that he is beholding to the calen­dars of the Romish Missals and Breuiaries. such braue monu­ments and testimonies haue the Romanists of their traditi­ons. But Eusebius in his Chronicle, and Epiphanius in pa­nario say, they came to Bethlehem two yeares after our Sa­uiours natiuitie. And what is he, that without proofe can set downe the certainty?

falsification 28 He saith, that the wisemen in returning homeward did not lodge in any Inne, but in mountaines and dennes. Ibidem. But how knoweth he this? forsooth because Simeon metaphrastes saith so, and for that he produceth the testimony of Cyril in his hi­story de vita Theodosij, who as Baronius beléeueth, is a faith­full historian. But neither can he name a more fabulous au­thor, then Simeon Metaphrastes, nor will it be prooued, that the writing that goeth vnder Cyrils name was framed by a­ny man of credit. such braue witnesses hath this Cardinals legendary for his traditions.

falsification 29 Where Luke c. 2. sheweth, that when the daies of purifi­cation of Mary was ended, she went to Hierusalem, Ibidem. to offer and doe according to the lawe of Moyses: there Baronius hath found out, that she was no way bound to doe it, but as a ce­remony, or complement. Cum alioqui saith he, nullatenus a­stringeretur virgo sanctissima. But if she were a mother, and bore a sonne, and if he were like to other men, then was she bound to doe, as other women did, although she remained a most holy virgin. As for the wicked opinion of the Roma­nists, that in their catechisme teach, that our Sauiour passed from his mother, as the sunne beames passe through glasse, I hope Baronius will not defend it. if he doe, he then addeth heresie and blasphemy to his fault of lying.

falsification 30 That Anne, of whome Luke maketh mention chap. 2. he affirmeth to be a most religious Nunne. Ibidem. and this he would prooue by the authority of Cyril cate [...]. 10. But vnlesse hée can prooue, that she vowed chastity, pouerty and obedience to a certaine rule, Bellarmine may enforme him, that he tel­leth vntruth. for these vowes he supposeth to bee essentiall points in monastical life.

falsification 31 Out of Sozomen and Nicephorus he telleth vs, that a cer­taine great trée neere Hermopolis in Aegypt, Ibidem. P. 80. when as Ioseph passed by with Christ being yet a little child, did bow it selfe and worship Christ, and that with the barke, and leaues of this trée all diseases are cured. And this doth Baronius tell very sadly, and beléeue soundly, as a Romish tradition. But vnlesse he bring sounder proofe, then yt heresay, of Sozomen; we must néedes beléeue, that he is of the number of those, which because they wold not beleeue the truth, 2. Thess. 2. are giuen ouer to beleeue lyes.

falsification 32 Most sadly also he saith, but not soothly, that betwene He­liopolis and Babylon, Annal. to. 1. p. 82. there is a little fountaine, where the ho­ly virgin did wash Christes clothes, and him two, while he was in Aegypt, and a certaine stone also hard by, where she dried his clothes, and that both christians and Saracens haue this fountaine and stone in veneration. Which if he were not stu­pide as a stone, he would not beléeue to be true, notwithstan­ding any credit, that is to be giuen to Borchardes fabulous narrations of the holy land.

falsification 33 He also citeth Philo de temporibus, as an authenticall wit­nesse to proue, Ibidem. P. 83. Antuerp. that Herod killed his owne sonne among the children, that dwelt about Bethlehem. But we doe not reade, that Herods sonne dwelt about Bethlehem. Beside that the treatise of Philo de tempo [...]ibus is conterfeit. Finally, is not he a braue author of traditions, that by tradition is able to proue, that the Romish Church worshippeth Herodes sonne, that was an infidle, for a young saint [...].

falsification 34 He affirmeth also, that Zacharie the father of Iohn Baptiste was slaine of Herod, Ibidem. P. 84. & 85. for that he did hide away his sonne in the slaughter of the children of Bethelem, and that the colour of bloud remained many yeares after vpon the paue­ment in the place of the slaughter. but Hierome in his com­mentaries vpon the 23. of Mathew doth condemne this fa­ble, and sh [...]w, that it was a dreame taken out of apocrypha [...] bookes. Whereby it may also appeare, that diuers Romish traditions are nothing else, but dreames taken out of apo­cryphall writinges.

falsification 35 Ibidem. But this may seeme a small fitton of a lye, in respect of [Page 175] that which followeth, where speaking of the 9. yeare of the age of our Sauiour, he saith, Pag. 96. that our ladies house wherein our Sauiour was brought vp, was by the ministery of Angels ta­ken vp all whole into the ayre, and so caried first into Dalmatia, and then into Italy to Loreto. And to proue this, he alledgeth the words of the Angell concerning the miraculous concep­tion of Christ, that sayd, non esse impossibile apud deum omne verbum. As if because a virgin could conceiue without man, it were likewise credible, that Angels should carry an olde house ouer the seaes into strange contries: or as if it were not a strange thing, that this cardinall should beléeue the tran­sportation of this house to Loreto as firmely as hée beléeueth Christ his incarnation. Histor. Lauret. Tursellinus that writeth a longe dis­course of this fable, speaketh of one house of our Lady, and doth not distinguish betwéene the house, where the virgine heard the salutation of the Angell; and where our Sauiour was brought vp. But the curious cardinall doth diligently distinguish both; and yet he is not able to shew, why the one house should rather be transported then the other. Beside that both he and Tursellinus do differ about the place where this house should first bee seated in Italy. I for my parte wonder, that they should publish such vaine lyes with so great ostentation. Now to proue this to be true Baronius is not ashamed to test a greater lye; affirming that Gregorius Thaumaturgus did remoue not a house, but a mountaine. Which if he cold doe, it were to be wished, that he would re­moue the 7. hils of Rome together with the Pope, and this lying cardinall, and place them at the foote of mount Tabor, for whence Baronius beleeueth, that our Ladyes house did flye ouer the Seaes into Dalmatia first, and then into Italie.

falsification 36 Of Augustus he saith, Ibidem. 97 that he made lawes against such as li­ued single, and yet honored those, that kept themselues conti­nually true virgins: which containeth a notorious contradic­tion. be [...]de that, it is absurd, to proue vowes of virginity frō heathen emperous, & very preiudicial to the Romish church, that he alloweth not fictum caelibatum, nor any but those, that indéede are true virgins, of which he shall find very few [Page 176] among his fellow cardinals, and not many among priestes, monkes, friers, nunnes.

falsification 37 Where Pilate, as Iohn chap. 19. saith, wrote the title ouer the crosse in Hebrew, Ibidem. Pag. 103. Greeke and Latine letters, and as Luke testifieth. chap. 23. in Hebrew, Latin and Greeke; Baronius sup­poseth, that the order is changed, and that the Latin inscription ought to be first. But this is nothing but to contradict the e­uangelistes, and to respect neither the apostles, nor their writings, so the Church of Rome may winne any preheminence aboue other churches. He alledgeth, I confesse, the testimo­ny of pope Nicholas in epist. ad Michaelem. But it is a poynt of blasphemy to beléeue, that Nicholas knew those matters better, and did report them more truely, then the euangelists. Beside that, it may well be doubted whether Nicholas wrote that epistle to Michael, or some other in his name, that with­out all truth, and modesty aduanceth the priuiledges of the Romish Sée.

falsification 38 Where Luke doth expresly set downe, that Iohn Baptiste began to preach, Pag. 113. when Annas and Caiphas were highe preistes, Baronius saith that only Caiphas was high preist in the socces­sion of Aaron. And that he is forced to hold for feare, least hée should ouerthrowe the monarchy of the Church of Rome. Annas he saith, was chéefe priest as head of his ranke, and one of the principall heads of the Sanedrin. But if he were not high préest; why should he be named before Cayphas? or why should Luke so call him? if he might not be high preist, as contrary to law, he must vnderstand, that at this time nei­ther the law of Moyses, nor the order of succession was right­ly obserued.

falsification 39 Talking of Saint Iohn Baptist he saith, hee dwelt in the wildernesse, Ibidem. p. 114. and keept in a denne called Sapsas. And that our Sauiour Christ did visit him oftentimes in this denne. And this he proueth by the testimony of Sophronius, and one Iohn a monke, to whome Saint Iohn appeared as he beléeueth, in this hole, and told him all this story. matters fabulous, and ridiculous. For who will grant, that Saint Iohn Baptist, whose soule was with God, kéept in this denne? it is as like that he dwelt there being dead, as being aliue. yet this is [Page 177] also a Romish tradition. but whether Locustes, that S. Iohn Baptist did eate, were liuing creatures or no, as yet Baroni­us hath not found out any certaine tradition. Isidorus of Pelusium holdeth that [...] in the gospell signified the tops of herbes and plantes.

falsification 40 Pag. 110 he saith, that S. Iohn Baptist did lay the foundati­on of monasticall life, and that all Catholikes confesse it to be so. A lye notorious, as appeareth by my answere to Bellar­mines treatise de monachis. Furthermore this his assertion may be conuinced first, for that Iohn Baptist neither made vow, nor liued after any certaine rule, nor forswore mari­age. Secondly, for that this manner of life was but for a time. for after a while, he left his habitation in the desert of Iudaea, and came to Iorden, and into cities. Thirdly, Iohn was ordained to be a forerunner of Christ, and is commen­ded, as a singular prophet. but monkes and friers are ra­ther the forerunners, & staf [...]ers of Antichrist, then of Christ. Neither is there any mention of them in scriptures, but in generall termes, Apocalyps. 9. where we reade of locustes issuing out of the bottomelesse pit, and such like places. Prophets certes they are not, vnlesse we giue the name of prophets to false tea­chers. Fourthly, if Iohn séeme in his manner of life to haue giuen any example to Eremites; yet that serueth other monks and friers nothing, that liue in most frequent cities, and are in continuall action. Finally, albeit Chrysostome, and Hie­rome say somewhat of Iohn Baptist, as if he first had shewed an example of solitary life; yet neither doth that serue to prooue, that he was a precedent to other monkes, nor doe o­ther fathers or catholike authors affirme, that he laid the first foundation of monasticall life. I hope Rob. Parsons will not say, that Iohn Baptist was like his father Ignatius Loyola, that madde maranicall Spaniard, and swaggring compag­nion, the first author, founder and foundation of the hispa­niolized Iesuites.

falsification 41 Pag. 117. he saith Christ was baptized the sixt of Ianuary, and this he would prooue by the testimony of a letter of Euse­bius ad Marinum, whose fragments are in the edition of Chri­stopher after the history of Euagrius, as he writeth. But sée­ing [Page 178] the holy scriptures haue concealed the exa [...]t day, he shew­eth not himselfe wise, curiously to dispute of this point. Be­side that, he should doe vs a fauour to shew who this Chri­stopher was, that set out Eusebius. otherwise his followers will beléeue, that he tooke Christopher for Christopherson. Fi­nally there is no credit to be giuen to such vaine fragments set out vnder the names of auncient writers. In the histo­rie of Eusebius we read not, that he had any thing to do with this counterfeit Marinus. so that this tradition séemeth to be built vpon a rotten foundation.

falsification 42 Gregorius Turonensis telleth, how leprosie is cured by wa­shing in water, where our Sauiour Christ was baptized: and Baronius beléeued he said true. But yet was this Grego­rie no good witnesse in this case, writing nothing, but by hearesay. We are taught by holy scriptures, that baptisme was ordained a sacrament of remission of sins, and not that Iordane was made a medicine to purge lepres.

falsification 43 Pag. 119. he supposeth, that he hath soundly confuted those, that say, that it was not said to Peter, tu es Petra, sed tu es Pe­trus. but either must he lye, or must he charge the Euange­list Matthew with vntruth, which is a point blasphemous. He saith also, that such as translate the word Cephas, and say it doth signifie a head, are not to be reprehended. But if he had had either head or braine, hauing taken vpon him to re­late histories, and things done in auncient time, he would haue omitted all curious disputations for the popes vsurped supremacy, for which his grosse head fit to beleeue all fond fables, was neuer framed.

falsification 44 Out of Abdias, which he confesseth to be an apocryphall author, he telleth, that Iohn the Euangelist by Christs perswa­sion did neuer desire mariage. as if Christ were an enemy to mariage.

falsification 45 He saith, that it was Simon Zelotes that was maried, when Christ was present in Cana of Galiley, Tom annal. 1. p. 122. Antwerp. and turned water into wine: and declareth, how the memory of that miracle being celebrated in the Church the vi. day of Ianuary diuers riuers and fountaines that day ranne wine. Matters méerely fa­bulous, and which bring christian religion into question, [Page 179] if not into contempt, being auouched without any good ground.

falsification 46 Pag. 132. he alloweth the epistle of Abagarus to Iesus Christ, and his epistle also to Abagarus: which by the testimony of Gelasius c. sancta Rom. dist. 15. are testified to be apocryphal, and by the letters themselues appeare to be forged.

falsification 47 In the same place also he reporteth, that our Sauiour Christ printed his image in a cloke, and sent it to Abgarus. The painter should haue taken the portrait, but saith Baronius for the beames that came from his countenance, he could not doe it. He sheweth also, that by this image diuers mira­cles were done. and all this to confirme the worship of images.

falsification 48 Pag. 157. he telleth vs, that by diuine and humane lawes one chiefe bishop both in time past did, and ought to decide all ecclesiasticall controuersies. But the place Deut. 17. and diuers places of the new testament doe shew this to be a no­torious vntruth, as I haue shewed in my bookes de Pon­tifice Rom.

falsification 49 Pag. 167. he telleth out of Euthymius, that the rich man Luc. 16. was called Nynensis, and doubteth not to affirme, that this was a story and not a parable, because diuers chur­ches are erected in the honour of Lazarus. but the fathers thinke otherwise. And the naming of tongues, fingers and other things which are corporal, where our Sauiour talketh of soules, doth shew this discourse to be parabolicall, and the papists to be idolaters, that worship their owne fancies, and imaginations. In the meane while, it is no hard matter to discerne Baronius to be a fabler.

falsification 50 Pag. 176. he would make his reader beléeue, that our Sa­uiour did celebrate his passeouer in S. Iohn the euangelists house. But Simeon Metaphrastes denieth it, which is often alleadged by Baronius as a graue witnesse: and the words of the gospell séeme to speake of the owner of that house, as of a stranger.

falsification 51 Pag. 191. he saith Missa is deriued from the Hebrew or Chaldey word. but Bellarmine his fellow telleth him, Lib. 1. de missa, he is deceiued.

In the same page, he alleadgeth the counterfeit epistles of Pius ad Iustum, and Cornelius ad Lupicinum, and other forged writings, and all to shew, that the word Missa was vsed in their times.

falsification 52 Out of Gregory of Tours he reporteth this fable, that di­uers making thonges, put them about the piller, whereto Christ was tyed, when he was scourged, and that the same heale di­uers diseases. He would haue tolde vs als [...] if he could haue brought any proofe for it, that the same piller is to be shewed in Saint Peters Church at Rome. for that is a Romish tra­dition. but he perceiued, that he had tolde a lye sufficient alreadie.

And thus we may sée, albeit I tell not all, how many lies are contained in the beginning of his first booke of Annales, being by iudgement of all men the best, and most frée from lyes. and yet I neither touch his errors in Chronology, nor much meddle with his forged and false writings. After this he telleth things most incredible, and yet without good testi­mony of any man of credit. Of S. Paul he writeth, that his head being stricken off, there issued out milke in steade of bloud. He telleth also, that Peters chaines being kept by Plau­tilla worke great wonders, and saith, that when Iohn the Euangelist wrote the gospell, it thundered and lightened, as when the lawe was giuen in mount Sinah. Infinit such strange tales are contained in his huge legends. If then we would doe him right; we should rather call them Aniles fabulas, then Annales.

CHAP. IX. A sampler of Robert Parsons alias Coobucke his manifold falsities and lies, taken out of diuers libels and pamphlets published by him.

NOw I come to Robert Parsons, alias Coobuck, a man, I confesse, vnwor­thy to bee ioyned with Bellarmine and Baronius, being farre inferiour to them in learning; yet in regard of his falsehood and treacherous dea­ling, comparable with the most wic­ked and shamelesse Iebusite of the whole order, and with the most false packer of all the popish faction. His scholers beléeue, that he is learned. but if his trecherous complots and packings were not more to be feared, then his learning; he were not to be reputed halfe so dangerous, as we finde him. The which, albeit I meant not here to dispute, being without the reatch of my purpose; yet because I would not haue euery such woodden fellow, as Philip Woodward alias Owlyglasse (for so men call the author of the detectiō) to take exceptions vnto my sayings, as destitute of proofe, I will briefly verifie in this place; and that by two of his bookes, which his fol­lowers for learning & workmanship beléeue to be singular. If any man néede any further trial; he may, if he please, read my reply to his wardword, where I haue sounded his lear­ning to be very shallow.

The first of the two is entituled, a briefe discourse contai­ning [Page 182] certaine reasons, why (papists, whom falsely he termeth) Catholikes refuse to go to Church▪ and this booke Parsons vn­der the maske of Iohn Howlet, a fit name for such a night­bird, doth presume most impudently to offer to her Maie­sty. The next is called a christian directory, and commonly knowne by the name of Parsons his resolution.

His former discourse is wholy grounded vpon this rotten foundation, that the popish religion (which the Iebusiticall faction and their followers, by all their witte, learning, and other meanes séeke to promote) is the true Catholike religion. This being the foundation of the worke, if he had béene a wise builder, he would haue confirmed, and proued so strong­ly, that her Maiesty, before whom he pleadeth, might haue conceiued well of his cause, and allowed of his reasons. but alleadging no one word to prooue this, the whole worke doth not onely fall to the ground, but also ministreth matter, that may be turned backe vpon himselfe, and employed to the hurt and preiudice of his clients. For as it is a good reason, if the popish religion be the true christian religion, to mooue men to refuse all religions opposite vnto it, so if the same be false, odious, trecherous, damnable; then neither haue pa­pists any reason to professe it, nor others to beare with those, that obstinately defend it. but I haue shewed, that it is not onely new, and false, but also superstitious and hereti­call. Againe, if Parsons can say nothing, why the religion professed in England, is not Catholike and apostolical; then all his reasons fall to the ground, and all his pretenses of feare of infection, of scandale, of schisme, of casting away the marke of distinction, of participation with vs, of dissimu­lation, of naughty seruice, of the benefit of popish religion may be retorted against himselfe and his clients. For nei­ther are Christians to suffer the practise of the idolatrous masse, nor the faction and packing of wicked dissembling pa­pists; nor may any magistrate or other good christian with good conscience, suffer Gods true religion by schismatickes and heretickes to be scorned. And these reasons are so effe­ctuall, that I doubt not, but those that haue the managing of these causes, will both take vp such Howlets, and deli­uer [Page 183] Christian religion from contempt of such impostors, and Atheistes.

Secondly purposing, and promising three things, whereof the first was a demonstration of reasons, why Papists should not goe to the Church, the next contained a declaration of meanes how papists should remedy, or ease themselues of their afflictions, the third was an instruction how with patience to endure affliction: the first he handleth most lewdly and loose­ly. the other two parts he was not able to make out, abusing both his friends and his aduersaries with his false promises. Further, it may be, that his remedies were nothing, but practises of treason and rebellion, and that he meant nothing lesse, then to exhort men to patience: and that therefore he o­mitted to speake of these two points. But why then did he promise? doth he promise that, which hee purposeth not to performe? and doth he meane to kéepe no touch in any thing?

His directory also is a most idle and vaine discourse. It should consist of thrée partes, whereof the first, as he saith, appertaineth to resolution, the second treateth of entrance, the third of perseuerance. but as his fashion is, of thrée partes promised, he kéepeth backe two, and performeth the third most simply. For first, that which he hath written concer­ning resolution is very impertinent. for it is a very euil signe of resolution in matters of christian religion, for a man to dispute, whether there be a God or no, and whether christian religion be true or no: as Parsons doth. Againe, despaire of Gods mercy, temptations, feare of persecution, and such like impediments, as Parsons alleadgeth, doe rather hinder a man to leade a christian life, then helpe to resolue him to doe it.

Secondly, the greatest part of his discourse, is either stollen out of Gaspar Loarti, or Granatensis, or Stella, or such like fri­er like and idle discourses.

Thirdly, it argueth, that he hath a bad conceit of popish ca­colikes in England. for if he tooke them to be christians, he would neither go about to teach them, that there is a God, nor that christian religion is true, nor that there are rewards [Page 184] offered to those that doe well, both in the life to come, and in this life, and punishments likewise for euill doers both in this life, and after this life. for euery childe among christians knoweth all this without his teaching.

Fourthly, we doe not finde, that this directory hath made any one christian, or directed him the way to life. But I doe heare many complaine, that diuers simple young men haue béen directed by him to the gallowes.

Fifthly, it should séeme, that this booke hath wrought lit­tle good effect in Parsons himselfe, that hauing so long stood vpon resolution, is not yet come to the entrance of reli­gion.

Sixthly▪ as lawes are made to restraine common abuses, so likewise divines should discourse of such matters, as may make most for reformation of christian mens manners. This discourse therefore of his, wherein he endeuoureth to prooue, that there is a God, that there is one true religion, that there is a heauen, and a hell, among christians already well perswaded is impertinent, and woulde better haue béene bestowed vpon Italians and Spaniardes, that scarce be­leeue in God, or know any of the principall points of chri­stian religion.

Furthermore, intreating of resolution, which as himselfe declareth, goeth before entrance, and perseuerance; yet doth he very wisely diuide the treatise of resolution into speculati­on and practise. The first part saith he, shall containe matter of discourse, speculation, consideration; the second shall handle things appertaining to exercise, vse and practise. As if a man could practise, that is not entered into the exercise of re­ligion, or as if resolution were not farre different from practise.

Finally, the booke is so full fraught with idle discourses, and the principall points so weakely proued, that it will ra­ther make Christians to doubt of religion, then Atheistes to beleeue. It doth also containe so much poyson, that no phy­sicke can make it holesome.

I would therefore aduise all Christians to beware of his booke of resolution by him intituled a directorie, containing [Page 185] little truth, but much superstition and hereticall poyson. The same is also a disgrace to all papistes, whome he pre­sumeth as yet not to be resolued, that there is a God, or that christian religion is true. To christians it can yeelde no instruction being a packe of stollen and bad stuffe euill trussed together. Neither is the same good, although it hath béene purged, the whole substance being leud, and full of poyson. Much I wonder, that any christian would sette it forth in this Church, and more, that chris­tians should beleeue, that any good was like to come of such a wicked writing. And I doubt not, but that such as are in authority will remoue both that, and other such venemous treatises out of all true Christian mens handes, being rather fit for Italian atheistes, then the Eng­lish nation.

To leaue the rest of his treacheries, heresies and other faults; which are rather to be corrected by the publike exe­quutioner, then noted by the stile of a writer, I will only in this discourse set downe certaine notorious falsifications committed by him in sundry pamphlets set out vnder diuers counterfect names, and giue you a tast of his vnsauory lies, of which in Parsons writinges there is great store. And this so much the rather, for that in his relation sent vs from Rōe, concerning the conference some two yeares agone passed in France betwéene Monsieur de plessis, and the pretended bi­shop of Eureux, he séemeth earnestly to desire a triall concer­ning these points. The man also in his preface before his reasons of refusall of going to the Church, vn­der the name of Iohn Houlet desireth that some indifferent triall may be had either by disputation or otherwise: wherein I desire he should be satisfied.

falsification 1 First then I challenge the man, as a notorious falsificator, in that he hath set forth his owne booke concerning titles vn­der the name of another preist called Dolman, who was ne­uer acquanted with the matter. Wherein albeit he hath cōmitted far more haynous faults then forgery, endeuoring by notorious vntruthes to set ye crowne of england vpon the Infantaes head; yet is it a fault also worthy to be censured, to father [Page 186] his bastard writinges, vpon others▪ that this is forgery, it is apparent by the testimony of the doctors in L. Cornel. de falsis. and their iudgement is grounded vpon great reason. For if it be forgery to adde one clause to a testament or other writing: then it is a mayne forgery, to publishe a false tes­tament, a false booke, or other false writing vnder other mēs names.

falsification 2 D. Bagsh. in his answere to his late apology chargeth him with 8. sundrie libels. Secondly he hath published vnder the name of Sanders, and Rishton diuers enormous and wicked slanders against King Henry the 8. of famous memory, against her maiesty, and the principall persons of this church and realme of En­land, setting out his owne vilanous lyes vnder the name of Sanders long before dead, and of Rishton, a man no way like­ly to commit any such wickednesse against his Prince and country, of Howlet, Dolman and others. As for Rishton it is now well knowne, he had small intelligence of state mat­ters. Neither did he vse to meddle or practise in them. Fur­ther those that know him, doe testifie that the stile of Sanders his booke is farre vnlike his. Thirdly, his credit was not such, as that he was able to get his bookes printed, especially being of that nature. Finally, we doe not beléeue, that Rishton hauing receiued grace at her Maiesties hands, and being de­liuered from death, which he had deserued, by her great fa­uour, would thus requite her, or that being a man of milde disposition he would rayle so maliciously and falsely, against his prince and contry. And therefore I beleeue, if the man be aliue, and were examined vpon his oth, that he would de­ny that booke to be his, and declare it to be Robert Parsons his worke. And though he doe it not; yet diuers others doe playnly declare so much, & we haue great reason to beléeue their declaration to be true. For he is a great stickeler in matters of state, and he hath writen such like libels before. Fur­thermore at his request Ribadineira his fellow Iebusite see­meth to haue set forth the same booke translated into spanish. Finally I doe not thinke, that Parsons will vpon his oth, and without all equiuocation affirme, that he had noe finger in the making and publishing of that most wicked and slaun­derous booke.

falsification 3 In those bookes which goe vnder the name of Sanders and Rishton, Robert Parsons hath committed diuers particuler falsities, and namely in publishing diuers letters in the name of Frier Forest and others, which neuer were made by the authors, whose name they carry. For first we doe not finde them in the first edition of that booke anno 1585. Secondly it is absurde to thinke, that either Forest, or simple women did write, as is reported. Finally they doe rather sauor of Parsons his veine, who is able to make to speake, and to write whome he pleaseth, and what him­selfe listeth. So plentifull and impudent he is in forging false writings.

falsification 4 Fourthly vnder the name of Iohn Houlet, whome nowe all the seculer masse préestes in England doe wonder at like an Owlet, he hath set forth an impudent discourse, concer­ning reasons why papistes goe not to the Church. He will not I thinke, deny it to be his. how then can he deny himselfe to be a falsary?

To come to particuler falsifications, albeit in his booke of resolution he hath noe reason to falsifie any place alleadged, winning no aduantage by it; yet hath he so dealt therein, and so hath he enured his fingers in this practise, that he cannot forget to forge and falsifie.

falsification 5 In the margent of his preface fol. 8. he saith it is an old tricke of heretikes to abuse simple people with obscure places of the scriptures: and for this he quoteth Epiphanius contra haere­ses, and Augustine ad quod vult deum: as if they should say so. He would also inferre, that it is a matter very dange­rous, to alledge scriptures. But if he doe not exhibit their testimonies, it will be an easie matter to proue that this is an old tricke of Parsons to father his owne bastardly fancies both vpon the fathers, and vpon others. Is not this then bastardly dealing?

falsification 6 In the same preface fol. 10: he ascribeth this sentence to Luther in epist. ad Iohan. Her [...]agium Typographum Argenti­nensem: their opinion of the sacrament they beganne with lyes, and with lyes they doe defende the same. And they doe broch it abroade with wicked fraud of corrupting others mens [Page 188] bookes. Likewise he affirmeth of Zuinglius, that in his booke de sacrament. fol. 412. he should call Luther a fowle corrup­ter, and horrible falsifier of Gods word, and one that followed the Marcionistes and Arians, that razed out such places out of holy writte, as were against them. He maketh also Carolus Molinaeus in translat. testam. noui part. 11. to accuse Caluin, that he made the text of the gospell to leape vp and downe at his pleasure, and that he vsed violence to the same, and added of his owne to the very letter for drawing it to his purpose. But who so list to peruse the writings of Luther, Zuinglius, and Molineus, shall plainly perceiue, that like a falsary he chan­geth and altereth their wordes at his pleasure. neither can he excuse himselfe, vnlesse he be able to shewe these wordes out of the authors, which he mentioneth. He chargeth Be­za also, for that in the preface to his new testament set out anno 1556. he accuseth Oecolampadius with all his brethren the diuines of Basil, for great impietie in abusing the sacred scriptures translated by them. But he abuseth his reader in laying that to Bezaes charge, that was neuer vttered by him, nor is to be found in his preface.

falsification 7 Fol. 11. of his preface, he quoteth Saint Augustine lib. 8. confess. c. 12. as if he should say, that Saint Anthony had re­uealed to his mother a religious rule of life, which he should followe. And fol. 12. he saith that Saint Augustine did so reuerence Anthonies doings, that he made the same a princi­pall motiue to his owne conuersion. But Saint Augustine doth not so much as in one word mention any rule of religi­ous life, nor did he follow Saint Anthony in other matter, then in reading the scriptures. Nor doth he say, that Saint Anthony reuealed any religious rule to Monica S. Augustines mother. In this therefore Rob. Parsons followeth his olde rule, or rather vnruly course of forgery.

falsification 8 Pag. 64 of his bookes printed at Louan, he alleadgeth for his ground, the counterfeit writings of Aristaeas, which he calleth Aristeus; and vpon his credit telleth diuers histories. But such false grounds are more likely to peruert, then to confirme men in the faith.

falsification 9 Pag. 259. he corrupteth Saint Augustines wordes de fid. [Page 189] & operibus c. 14. and peruerteth his meaning, quoniam haec opinio tunc fuerat exorta saith Saint Augustine (scilicet vt praecepta & professa fide opera iustitiae contemnantur) aliae apostolicae epistolae Petri, Ioannis, Iacobi, Iudae, contra eam di­rigunt maximè intentionem, vt vehementer astruant fidem sine operibus nihil prodesse. These wordes Parsons translateth thus, for that this wicked opinion of onely faith was sprong vp in the Apostles time by ill vnderstanding of S [...]int Paul, &c. he addeth to Saint Augustines wordes wicked; and where he speaketh of a sole faith, or rather solitary faith deuoide of workes, hee maketh him to speake against these, that say, that faith onely iustifieth, or applyeth iustice vnto vs, which Saint Augustine misliketh not. for in that same chapter he saith, that workes follow him, that is iustified, and go not be­fore iustification.

falsification 10 Pag. 269. he alleadgeth a counterfeit writing vnder the name of Athanasius, wherein Saint Anthonies the ermites life is described: and of the liues of Paul and Hilarion sup­posed to be Hieromes: but altogether false, like Dolmans booke of titles.

falsification 11 In his directory page 353. he maketh Cyprian to say, that Christ appeared to a bishop in the forme of a goodly young man. He saith also, Serm. de Mor­talit. that Saint Augustine did often vse to re­count this example, and alleadged Posidonius for his witnes He saith further, that Cyprian writ a booke de Mortalitate. But first this discourse is but one poore sermon, and no booke. Secondly it is vncertaine, whether this sermon was his or no. Thirdly he saith not, that Christ appeared, but that a goodly young man appeared to that Priest. Finally he lyeth of Saint Augustine, as well as Cyprian: and in his allegati­ons forgeth as fast, as if he were the sonne of a blacksmith, and brought vp in his forge.

falsification 12 In the same place ridiculously he alleadgeth certaine ser­mons ad fratres in eremo, which he fathereth most falsely vpon Saint Augustine▪ and this his owne side as well, as the learned men of ours could haue tolde him, if he had but had so much sence, as to vnderstand them. In the two pa­ges following, he telleth certaine fables of the apparitions [Page 190] of good and bad angels; and layeth them vpon Gregory the dialogiste and Bede, whose bookes are much corrupted by monkes, and such like falsaries.

falsification 13 To prooue purgatory, he alleadgeth a certaine counterfeit booke that is attributed to Saint Augustine, intituled de ve­ra & falsa poenitentia, and a forged prayer supposed to be said by Saint Ambrose, when he went to say masse, and such like counterfeit stuffe, as may be found in his directory pag. 369. and the pages following.

falsification 14 Lib. 1. p. 1. c. 11. of his directory, he alleadgeth a place out of Saint Ambrose ser. 2. in psal. 118. where hee supposeth him to speake of popish purgatory, but he speaketh of pur­ging onely in this life, and of such a purgatory, as that some passed through it to hell. But the papists teach, that no man passeth out of their purgatory into hell. He is therefore fit­ter to talke of the fire of his putatiue fathers forge, then of the fire of purgatory, which he shall neuer be able to prooue with any forgery.

falsification 15 Lib. 1. p. 2. c. 1. he maketh Saint Augustine to say, con­fess. lib. 6. c. 12. that his owne passions, and the diuell would needes perswade him before his conuersion, that he should ne­uer be able to abide the austerity of a vertuous life. But S. Augustine hath neither any such wordes, nor any such mea­ning. For first he speaketh not of a vertuous life, but of ab­stinence from mariage, to attaine to wisedome. Secondly he saith, the Diuell or Serpent went about through him to perswade Alypius, and speaketh nothing of the Diuels per­swasions to himselfe. Thirdly, he doth not so much as men­tion austere life in that place▪ neither is it so austere a mat­ter to forsweare mariage, as is pretended, especially if God giue men grace to liue chaste. The Iesuits and massepriests certes haue no reason to talke of austeritie of life, albeit they forsweare mariage, especially if they liue at ease, and fare daintily, and wallow in all filthinesse, as they shall heare particulerly hereafter, if they content not themselues with this present payment.

falsification 16 Likewise he citeth certaine Meditations, and Sermons vn­der the name of Saint Augustine, pratum spirituale vnder the [Page 191] name of Sophronius, the legend of Barlaam vnder the name of Dam [...]scene, and diuers other forged and counterfeit wri­tings. He doth also abuse both the scriptures and fathers most impudently, as I shall at more leysure particulerly de­monstrate. Especially, if he or any other dare vndertake to answere my challenge, and to reply vpon my answere to his disciple Owlyglasse.

falsification 17 Fift reason of refusal. Where Saint Paul 2. Tim. 4. speaketh of Alexander the copersmith, he changeth his words, and saith, he commanded Timothy not to consent to Alexander the heretike. And this corruption séemeth to be committed in fauor of his putatiue father the blacksmith, whose occupation, percase, he was loth to sée disgraced.

falsification 18 Reason 6. Alleadging Saint Augustine contra Maximinum, he sée­meth to signifie, that he wrote but one booke. Againe, he would make Saint Augustine to say, that it was the fashion of heretikes, to haue scriptures in their mouth. But Saint Augustine in all his thrée bookes against Maximinus hath no such wordes. nay himselfe in those bookes alleadgeth scrip­ture often, and reasoneth out of them, and plainly signifi­eth, that his instructions were drawne from thence. De diuinis scripturis instructi, saith he.

falsification 19 Reason 7. Speaking of the Pope, hee giueth his reader to vnder­stand, that Cyprian de simplic. praelat. and epist. 47. & 55. and Chrysost. lib. 2. de sacerdot. Innocentius epist. 93. apud Augu­stinum, and Leo epist. 84. and the Synode of Alexandria apud Athanasium, and Theodoret lib. 2. hist. c. 4. call the Pope the high priest of the Church, the bishop of the vniuersall Church, the pastor of the Church, the iudge of matters of faith, the re­purger of heresies, the examiner of all bishops causes, and final­ly the great priest; in obeying of whom, all vnitie consisteth, and by disobeying of whom, all heresies arise. But scarce doth he speake truely of any one of these fathers or councels, as a­ny man may sée both by examining the places, and in my booke de Pontifice Rom. against Bellarmine. would Parsons set downe the fathers words, he might also sée it himselfe, if he pleased.

falsification 20 Where he saith, that the fathers of the primitiue Church [Page 192] with one consent affirme, that the body and bloud of Christ was by Christ appointed to be offered vp daily for remission of sinnes of quicke and dead, and quoteth Dionyse, Ignatius, Ter­tullian, Augustine, Chrysostome, Gregory, Hierome, Cyprian and others; with one breath he falsely alleadgeth them all, as I haue particulerly demonstrated in my third booke de missa against Bellarmine. which if Parsons doe answere, I maruell.

Whosoeuer list to sée further triall of Parsons his falsifica­tions, let him reade his treatise of the discouery of Nicols, and other such like pamphlets set out by him, wherein I dare be holde to say, that euery second place alleadged by him in any matter of controuersie, is falsely alleadged. Yea sometime to kéepe his forging fingers in vre, he alleadgeth fathers and scriptures falsely, where he doth not gaine any thing to him­selfe by the false quotation, and allegation, but onely a per­petuall note of a wicked falsary.

Neither is it a matter much to be maruelled at, if Robert Parsons hath committed diuers falsifications, seeing in cases of conscience resolued by him and Allen, he teacheth, that it is lawfull to change a mans name, to deny his countrey, to equi­uocate, dissemble and speake vntruth, yea to sweare and for­sweare most falsely: most of which points are counted plaine forgery. beside that, his putatiue father by his occupation was a forger. If then Owlyglasse séeke a paterne of falsifica­tions; let him go to Robert Parsons, who is the onely master, and a more excellent forger then Coobucke his putatiue fa­ther, albeit all his life long he wrought in a blacksmiths forge. Only it were to be wished, that he had béen a forger of horshoonailes, and not of false writings.

CHAP. X. A note of certaine notorious lies, and vntruthes vttered by Robert Parsons, alias Coobucke.

I Néed not say much to conuince Rob. Parsons to be a most false Iebusite, and a most impudent lying compag­nion. The seculer priests in their re­ply to Parsons his treatise entituled a manifestation of the folly and bad spirit &c. and in their answere to the Iesuites apology, haue eased me of that labour▪ for they conuince him plainely of lying, cogging, and facing, and doubt not to af­firme, that he can say nothing without lying. But yet because his woodden scholer Owlyglasse hath begun this course, and thinketh to winne some aduantage by scoring vp my vn­truthes, I will briefly note some vntruthes of the master lye-maker, and excellent imitator of him, that is, the fa­ther of lies.

falsification 1 First then I say, that in his most slanderous libels set out vnder the names of Sanders and Rishton, of Andreas Philo­pater, of Didimus Veridicus, of Allen in his letters to the nobi­litie and people of England, and Ireland, and all those libels which haue béen published within these 20. years against the late Lord treasurer of England of worthy memory, against the Lord of Leycester, and others, all which were either made by him, or published by him, or by his helpe and counsaile, he lyeth in grosse. For the bookes from the beginning to the en­ding are full of notorious and villanous lyes against king [Page 194] Henry the 8. against his principall agentes, against Quéene Elizabeth and her counsaile, and the whole Church and state of the Realme of England. and this, if God be pleased, I purpose shortly to shew at large. Neither néede I to declare any particular, seeing there is no man, that hath any intelli­gence of matters of state, but he knoweth, that the same bée most false and slanderous. But to leaue to speake of those bookes, that consist of nothing but lyes, I wil note diuers par­ticuler leasinges out of other bookes of his, wherein, not­withstanding, he pretendeth more truth.

falsification 2 In his wardworde pag. 69. he saith, it appeareth not, that Iesuites sought her maiesties bloud; especially not Parsons. A most notorious and shamelesse lye. For it is not only most true, that these wicked assassinors of princes, and King kil­lers haue also sought her maiesties bloud, but also nowe most apparent. For not only Palmio and Codret two Iesuites did resolue Parrie to kill the Queene, and that it was an act meritorious so to doe, Parries voluntarie confession. but also sence that time Holt and Wal­poole haue excited diuers to take on them that wicked inter­prise. The first appeareth by the confession of Parrie aboute the yeare anno. 1584. the second by the confessions of Squire, Yorke, Willams, Patricke Ocollen, and others. It appeareth also that Parsons was well acquainted with Parries treason both by cōfessions, and witnesses. Further this many yeares he hath endeuored, to the vttermost of his power, to stirre vp forrayne enemies against her maiestye, which no man can doe, but he must néedes entend her distruction▪ and if hée deny that, his owne letters which are to be shewen, and the testimony of the seculer preistes, In diuers trea­tises, and namely in their an­swere to Par­sons his late apologie. and the wicked libell vnder the name of Allen directed to the nobility and people of England and Ireland, which he holpe to print and pub­lish; and which wholy & opēly aymeth at her maiesties state and person, will conuince him. But this poynt I haue dis­coursed in my reply to Parsons his wardworde at large, and the same is diuersly confessed in the seculer préestes bookes. And therefore thus much may serue in this place to proue him both a lyar, & a most wicked assassinor of his liege prince and souereine.

falsification 3 In the fift encontre of his wardword he saith, that those that oppose themselfes against the Iesuites, are either Iewes, Turkes, and Infidels; or those that make diuision and say, I am of Caluin, I am of Luther, or those that haue made shipwracke of faith; or false bretheren such as loue praeheminence as did Diotrephes; or els worldlinges. And in these few wordes he telleth diuers notorious lyes. For first neither Iewes, nor Turkes do oppose themselues against the Iesuites. Se­condly, among all those, that professe religion he cannot bring forth one that saith I am of Caluin, or Luther. Third­ly, Parsons himselfe is a Iesuite, and a principal stirrer among them, and yet like Diotrephes sought to be a cardinall, which dignity for his bastardy and vileny he hath missed. Fourth­ly, he will not say, that Sixtus quintus was a Iewe or Turke, nor that the colledge of Sorbona, and clergy of France, or par­liament of Paris are within the compasse of his diuision; al­beit all these haue opposed themselues against the encroche­ments of the Iesuites. Finally, the seculer préestes, that deale against the Iesuites, are neither Turkes nor Infidels in Parsons his reckening. Yet haue they manfully stood against the Iesuites trecherous plots for their contry, as Parsons will not deny. Doth it not then appeare, that he hath told vn­truth, and that the I [...]suites are an odious generation contrary to Parsons his assertion?

falsification 4 Speaking of the alteration of religion in his first encounter he saith, that by occasion thereof haue ensued battailes, Wardword. mur­thers, destructions of countries. And that townes, cities, hou­ses and particular men, three princes, two Queenes, and one King haue thereby beene brought to their bane. Hee saith also further, that the houses and linages of Hamiltons, Dougla­sses, Stuards in Scotland, of desmond and other peres in Ireland haue beene thereby ruinated. And finally, that in France and Flanders there is no ende of those, that haue beene destroyed by this change of religion. A most shamelesse and palpable vntruth. For not religion, or any alteration therein, but the malice of the Pope and wicked practises of Iesuites, and there consorts haue caused most of these troubles. The rest haue happened vpon other accidentes. By the Popes secret [Page 196] practises, and Charles the 9. his great disloyalty many thou­sandes of innocentes were massacred in France the yeare of our Lord 1572. by the working of Claude Matthieu a Iesuite and others his consortes that league was made, which brought infinit calamities to the people and kingedome of France. Paule the third stirred vp warres against the princes of Germany. P [...]us the fift was the firebrand, that inflamed the Northren rebellion in England. Sanders the Popes legat was the originall cause of the destruction of the earle of Desmond. And happie had the late Quéene of Scots beene, if shée had not béene to credulous to beléeue Sammier and o­ther seditions Iesuites entisinge words and promises. the at­tempt of Spaniardes against England anno. 1588, was set for­ward by Frier Sixtus quintus at the solicitation of Robert Par­sons and his fellowes, albeit here he would gladly discharge himselfe, and lay the fault vpon others. the Iesuites were the causes of the destruction of the Duke of Guise, of Hen­ry the french King, that was murdered by Iames Clement, of the Duke of Parma, of the discontentment of the Prince of Transiluania. neither was the losse of Sebastian King of Portugal, of his whole army & his estate to be ascribed to any other thē to ye wicked counsaile of the Iesuites, which gouerned him wholy and drue him into that action they haue also brought the King to Poland in danger to loose his kingdome of Sueth­land, and caused the ouerthrow of Ferdinand of Croatia by the Turkes: and finally both haue they ruined as many, as haue harkened to their turbulent counsels, and will they ruine as many, as will be guided by them. And this is not only proued by experience, but also testified by diuers re­cords, and bookes in England, and France of late set out by men of their owne religion. The diuisions certes which they haue caused in ye emperors army in Hungary haue wrought many calamities to christendome.

falsification 5 In the same encounter he saith, that before the late alterati­on of religion, there was one forme of seruice, one number of Sacraments, one tongue, one Sacrifice, one heade of the Church throughout all christendome. but in my reply pag. 19. I haue shewed, that this shorte sentence containeth [...] [Page 205] the truth haue respected temporal commodity, or as if we did not vrge them with the truth of apostolicall doctrine, and the ancient christian faith.

falsification 38 In the preface of his directory. fol. 13. p. 2 he saith, that S. Ambrose, S. Augustine, S. Gregory & S. Bernard perswade men by their examples to be afraid of purgatory. A fourfold lye. for neither did S. Ambrose, nor any of the rest speake of a purga­tory, wherein christians did satisfie for the temporall punish­ment of sins remitted in earth. nor did they beléeue any such purgatory. Whatsoeuer they held of another purgatory, viz. for veniall sinnes; yet false it is, that they perswaded men to be afraid of it by their examples.

falsification 39 In his directory lib. 1. p. 42. he saith, that the world know­eth, that Socrates was put to death for i [...]sting at the multitude of gods among the gentiles: a matter which the world knoweth to be a lie, and is refuted by Plato, & al that write of his death.

falsification 40 In the same place he saith, Plato was wont to report of Zeno the stoike, that he should say, that either there was one God, or no God. but the record of the report will not be found. Fur­ther, if Plato liued before Zeno, it was not like, that he should prophecy what Zeno would say. These lyes certes be­ing the grounds of Parsons proofes where he goeth about to shew, that there is a God: are rather like to make a gentile, or heathen mā obstinate, then to make him beléeue in one God.

falsification 41 Pag. 174. he telleth, that the number of infants slaine at Bethlehem was 14. thousand. and this he goeth about to proue by the greeke calendar, and the liturgy of the Aethiopians. but such fables as he bringeth, doe rather discredit christian reli­gion, then prooue it. We beléeue, that Herod killed the yoong children in Bethlehem, and thereabouts. but so many as 14. M. could not be found in that quarter, as is very likely.

falsification 42 Pag. 269. he saith, that Philo the Iew doth set forth strange things in the life and exercises of S. Marke, and of his disciples, that liued in Alexandria. But if Philo in his booke de vit. con­tēplat do neither speake of S. Marke, nor his disciples in A­lexandria, I hope that Parsons disciples will be ashamed of their masters ignorance, and confesse that he hath lyed.

It were an easie matter, to set downe infinit lyes of this [Page 206] lying compagnion, whoe without lying is not able to speak any thing, as his consorts the seculer priests say. but when he hath cleared himselfe of these, he shall haue twise so many more obiected against him, and drawne out of his simple writings. In the meane while it may appeare, that neither he, nor his disciple Owlyglasse had any great reason to chal­lenge the combat of vs for falsifications and lyes.

CHAP. XI. That Owlyglasse himselfe hath falsi­fied diuers authors and allegations in his little lewd Pamplet, wherein he chargeth others with falsifications.

IS it possible, thinke you, to worke some­what out of nothing? certes no. Strange therefore it may seeme vnto you, that I endeuour out of this small Pamphlet, that is as nothing, to make something. Yet if you please to consider the particu­lers ensuing, you shall finde, that in this trifling discourse of the woodden detector, wherein he hath shewed neither witte, learning, nor honesty, nor any good thing; that there are diuers points contained, that may conuince him both to bee a falsary, and a false lying com­pagnion.

falsification 1 Out of Origen pag. 11. c. 2. he citeth these words, qui renas­citur debet sale saliri. Homil. 6. in Ezech. But the fathers words are these, opor­tet ergo eum, qui renascitur, vtique in Christo renascentem rati­onabile & sincerum lac desiderare, & prius quam rationabile [Page 207] & sine dolo lac desideret, debet sale saliri, & pannorum inuolu­cris colligari, ne dicatur ad eum, sale non es salitus, & pannis non es inuolutus. So then by this it appeareth, that he cutteth a­way the words in the midst, and leaueth out the words in the end of the sentence, and ye maliciously to serue his purpose. for otherwise it would haue appeared, that Oregin spoke allego­rically, or that al children and others, that are to be baptized, must as well drinke milke, and be lapped in cloutes, as sal­ted, or touched with salt.

falsification 2 In his preface he abuseth Hostiensis and Panormitane ma­king them to say, that thrée thinges precisely are required in a falsary. And that domage or hurt ensueth of euery falsificati­on. the fellow quoteth their words out of a pamphlet prin­ted at Antwerpe by Hierom verdussen concerning the confe­rence betwixt Plessis and Eureux. and therefore no maruel, if he cite them falsely, taking their words at the second hand of so base and lying an author.

falsification 3 In my former challenge p. 20. these are my words. They dissolue mariage contracted by entring into religion, as they terme it, and although it be consummated, yet they hold, that by mutuall consent, the maried couple may depart a sunder, and that it shall not be lawfull for them afterward to company toge­ther. They separate also mariage for spirituall kinred, and force all, that-will be preistes, monkes, or friers to forsweare, marri­age. Matters not onely strange in the catholike Church du­ring the times of the Apostles, and their successors for many hundred yeares, but also contrary to Christes doctrine. For what man can separate them, whome God hath ioyned? And what reason hath man to commande any to forsweare mariage, which the spirit of God pronounceth to bee honorable? But my aduersary like a falsary, that is, like himselfe, first lea­ueth out the beginning of the sentence; secondly hée cutteth somewhat out in the midst, Pag. 14 and finally he curtalleth the ende of my sentence, reporting only these words, and in this sort. They hold that by mutuall consent the married couple may de­part a sunder, and that it shall not be lawfull for them afterward to company together, a matter not only strange in the catholike church during the Apostles, and there successors times, for ma­ny [Page 208] hundred yeares, but also contrarie to Christes doctrine▪ for what man can seperat whome God hath ioyned? So it appea­reth, that he cutteth out that, which I said of dissoluing of ma­riage contracted, by monkish vowes, and vpon pretence of spi­rituall kinred, a [...]d that also, which I say of forswearing of ma­riage▪ he doth also make me to speake in the singuler nomber, where I speake in the plurall. which course if any man take with the fathers writings; he may easily make them speake vntruth, and what he listeth. But in the meane while Owly­glasse sheweth himselfe a falsary.

falsification 4 Where Pag. 24. of my former challenge I say, that papists of late time haue deuised masses, and offices in the honor of the crosse, of the virgin mary, of S. Francis, Dominike and other saints, and that vnto their images they burne incense and offer their prayers and deuotions: Pag. 20. ch. 2. Owlyglasse according to his fa­shion doth thus transforme my words, as if I had sayd only, that the Papists offer their prayers and deuotions to the images of our Ladye, S. Francis, S. Dominike. Whereby it appeareth, he doth detruncate my wordes leauing out the beginning, and that which I said concerning the crosse, and burning of incense, vpon which points the argumēt, which I brought was principally laide. If a man should so vse him, as he hath v­sed my words, I doubt not, but he would be much offended.

falsification 5 Pag. 62. of my challenge I say, that Damascene accomp­teth them heretikes, that worshipped the images of our Saui­our, of the blessed Virgin, and the Saints, as the gentiles did their gods: and I added, that this was the case of the papists, because both gentiles and papists bow to images, pray to them, burne incense to them, and offer sacrifice before them: and yet both deny, that they worship stocks or stones, but rather those per­sons, that are represented by them. But Owlyglasse crushing my wordes together, as if he meant to wring veriuice out of them, & taking out, what he pleaseth, doth so report my wordes, as if I had sayd onely, that the papists worship the images of Saints, as the gentiles did their gods, and that they pray to them. And thus this butcherly falsifier of mens wri­tings hath mangled my wordes, as I haue particulerly no­ted heretofore.

falsification 6 To prooue, that the popes of Rome had power to make lawes in ancient time, and did practise that power, he alled­geth a forged canon of Hilary sometime bishop of Rome, that liued about the yéere of our Lord 461. but the same is not ex­tant in ancient record. neither is it like, that he would vse such a thundring stile, as did the author of this decretale epistle. thirdly, no godly bishop would match his owne decrées with Gods ordinances. Nulli fas sit, saith he whatsoeuer he was, sine status sui periculo, vel diuinas constitutiones, vel apostolicae sedis decreta temerare▪ finally, if the bishops of Rome in this time had vsed this stile, all the world would haue laughed at their folly.

falsification 7 Pag 23. Chap. 2. he doth also curtall my words with an &c. and maketh me to speake of one particular, where I speake of diuers things, and leaueth out some principall parts of my as­sertion. I say, if a man seeke all antiquity, he shall not finde, where the church of Christ hath commanded vs to keepe this popes day, or that popes day, and to absteine from worke on S. Francis, and S. Dominikes day, and other canonized friers daies, or where the same hath enioyned Christians to heare masse, or to fast Lent or Ember daies, or vigils of Saints, and o­ther tides according to the fashion of the Church of Rome. but my aduersarie leaueth out all that, which concerneth hearing of masses, and keeping of holy daies of the popes canonized saints, and of other tides, and of the maner of fasting.

falsification 8 Likewise, pag. 26. he mangleth my words and sentences, and giueth them a new forme, neuer deuised by me. I speake of diuers things together, pag. 32. of my challenge, and say, that they are not to be found in all antiquitie. he maketh me to speake of solemnization of mariages in times prohibited by the Romish church.

falsification 9 He doth likewise mangle my words, pag. 32. leauing out that, which I speake of adoration, and carying about the sacra­ment. The like dishonest dealing he vseth in most of those pla­ces, which he alledgeth not of my challenge, as may appeare by my answere to his former exceptions, and by the words themselues, if any man list to compare my booke with his pam­phlet. What then néed I to touch him for particular falsifica­tions, [Page 210] when the allegations of his woorthlesse treatise are no­thing almost, but continued falsifications?

falsification 10 Pag. 32. he citeth the 13. canon of the councell of Nice for the 12. and where the councell speaketh of excommunicate persons onely, he maketh the same to speake of all Christians, and to determine, that the holy communion should be denied to none at the point of death: as if the eucharist, as now is the popish fashion, were then caried to all sicke persons, which is no part of the councels meaning.

falsification 11 Pag. 35. he bringeth in a counterfet booke of S. Ambrose, de viduis, and yet clippeth his words, forcing him to speake for praiers to angels, which true S. Ambrose, as may appeare by my answeres to his exceptions, condemned.

falsification 12 Pag. 36. he produceth Hierome as a witnesse for prayers to saints, and alledgeth his booke against Vigilantius for that pur­pose▪ but vnlesse he falsifie S. Hieromes words, he shall not find any thing in him, that maketh for his aduantage.

falsification 13 Pag. 53. & 54. he falsly alledgeth the 4. councell of Toledo c, 1. Ignatius his epistle ad Trallianos, Cyrilles cateches. 4. Epi­phanius haeres. 46. Hierome vpon the 4. to the Ephes. Grego­ries Morals, lib. 13. c. 20. and all to prooue Limbus patrum, which the papists fancy to be in hell, and a receptacle of the fa­thers before Christ. His falshood may appeare, for that not one of these testimonies maketh for Limbus patrum. and that, if he will not beléeue me, Bellarmine will teach him, lib. de ani­ma Christi c. 14. where he shall not once finde his Limbus pa­trum mentioned in any father.

falsification 14 Pag. 62. he doth falsly ascribe the defence of womens bap­tisme to Master Hooker of blessed memorie. whosoeuer listeth to reade Master Hookers fift booke of Ecclesiast. policie sect. 62. shall finde, that he condemneth women that presume to bap­tize children, albeit he do not pronounce the baptisme by them administred, to be of no validitie.

falsification 15 Pag. 80. & 81. he alledgeth S. Augustine ser. 243. de tempo­re, and the councell of Neocaesarea c. 7. to prooue, that the cu­stome of not blessing second mariages is no new deuice, but a practise of the primitiue church▪ and yet neither doth the ca­non alledged, nor the author of that sermon speake one word [Page 211] of blessing of second mariages. Furthermore, neither this ser­mon, that he alledgeth, séemeth to be S. Augustines, nor are the acts of the councell of Neocaesarea authenticall.

Finally, if this simple fellow had alledged more places, more he would haue alledged falsely, being not able to alledge any thing almost truely.

If then the Archpriest Blackewell doe happen to méet with this owle of Canke wood; he may doe well to admonish him, not to abuse the testimonies which he alledgeth, and his rea­ders patience, which he trieth to the vttermost with such nota­ble falsities. he himselfe confesseth, that it is a flagitious matter, to poule and pare the sentences of venerable antiquitie. There resteth therefore nothing, but séeing he hath confessed his fault, that the Archpriest set him to penance, and afterward cause him, if he haue a good voice, to sing masse, séeing he can say no better.

CHAP. XII. A Note of diuers vntrueths told by Owlyglasse in his pamphlet, wherein he pretendeth to charge others with vntrueths.

IT is a shame for any man to lie. but for him, that taketh vpon him to charge others with lying, euery foot to lie, is not only a great shame, but also an ar­gument, that he is past shame. let him therefore the next time looke better to himselfe, and desist to raile, face, and slander, vnlesse he stood himselfe vpon better ground, and did vse more trueth in his dealing.

falsification 1 In his preface he saith, that popish religion was planted here by Gregory the great▪ but he telleth a great vntrueth. for nei­ther [Page 212] was Gregory euer here in this Island, nor did either he, or his agents mainteine that doctrine, that is published by the conuenticle of Trent, or those points, which I haue declared neither to be ancient, nor generally holden.

falsification 2 He doubteth not also to affirme, that Gregory receiued that religion, which now the papists professe, from Peter. Let him therefore shew, that all those points of doctrine, against which I except in my challenge, were receiued from Peter, or els he must receiue answere, that speaking of religion, he speaketh without religion, reason, or conscience.

falsification 3 He chargeth me and M. Willet, with assaulting the impreg­nable fort of Gods church, and battering that rocke, against which the gates of hell shall not preuaile. but if he meane the true church, then doth he make a lie of vs. if he meane the pre­sent Romish congregation adhering to the pope, he maketh a lie of the pope & his church. for we haue by many arguments declared, that the Romanists and their adherents are not the true church. We haue also shewed, that the gates of hell haue preuailed against them, and that declining from the apostolike faith, they are fallen into many foule heresies.

falsification 4 Further, speaking of his consorts, he saith, they repaire to the continuall tradition and practise of the church, and that we reiect the same▪ but he lieth both in the one and the other▪ for neither doe the Romanists regard the generall practise of the a­postolike church for many hundred yéeres after Christ, nor doe we desire any thing more, than that late customes and traditi­ons reiected, we may returne to the sound forme of apostolike faith, and gouernment.

falsification 5 He saith, they haue recourse to the consent of the ancient learned fathers, and that we reiect them. but the first is proued a lie by Bellarmine, and other popish proctors, who most light­ly reiect the fathers, when they make against them▪ the second is reproued by our confessions, wherein we shew, that we de­sire nothing more, than that all latter decretals called, we may returne to the ancient fathers faith.

falsification 6 He telleth vs further, that papists appeale to generall coun­cels, and that we will not admit them. but after his fashion hée hudleth vp lies by couples. for neither doe they admit any [Page 213] councels, but such as pleaseth them; nor do we refuse to admit any article of faith established by ancient and lawfull generall councels.

falsification 7 He would make men beléeue, that popish religion is most seuere. and yet the world knoweth, that in all places papists mainteine open stewes, and in Rome and diuers great cities suffer Iewes and Turks to dwell quietly. Further, the pope doeth set to sale all sinnes, and euery polshorne paltry fellow thinketh he can giue absolution to sinners; which bringeth the keyes of the church into contempt. Finally, no sect euer liued more loosely, or leudly. These things therefore, vnlesse they be better answered, do sufficiently conuince him of lying; and his consorts of loose liuing, and popish religion of lightnesse.

falsification 8 In the same lying preface he saith, that protestants (doctrine) looseth the raines to all liberty, that vnbrideled sensualitie will neuer put vp petition for any greater. and by protestants, he vnderstandeth true Christians, that abhorre the abominati­ons of Babel. but if he had not giuen the raines to his vnbride­led tongue to speake all villany of honest men, he would not haue vttered, and if he had not béene a brutish beast, that vseth not to be rained, he would not haue written such impudent lies. Let him therefore set downe our doctrine, wherein wée seeme to let loose our sensuall affections, and let him if he can, shew any man of our side, that alloweth publike stewes as the Iesuite Weston, Iesuits in Wisbich taught that whores were in Rome. with as good right as the pope. and his consorts did at Wisbich some thrée or foure yéeres agone, affirming that whores were in Rome, cum approbatione, and to trusse all short, with as good right as the pope. And if he dare, or hope to win aduantage by it, let him compare the liues of the popes, cardinals, and Romish clergy and people, with such as truely professe our religion; and examine the honesty of both. and if not, let him leaue his lying, and railing vpon honest men.

falsification 9 Pag. 11. chap. 2. For spittle, saith he, speaking of the cere­monies of baptisme, we haue the warrant of S. Ambrose lib. 1. de sacrament. c. 1. but whatsoeuer he hath, we haue here a no­torious lie deliuered by him. for S. Ambrose in that place hath not one word of spittle, much lesse of spittle in baptisme, for which he is alledged. I woonder then, if Philip Woodward [Page 214] haue made vp these woodden animaduersions, that the other masse priests do not spit in his face, and defie him. and the ra­ther, for that he supposeth euery word of S. Ambrose, or the au­thour of that counterfet treatise to be a sufficient warrant, whom the papists in diuers points regard not, as I haue shewed in my treatise De missa, now published against Bellar­mine.

falsification 10 In the same chapter, pag. 12. he saith, that for ceremonies vsed by the Romanists in baptisme, viz. for exorcismes, blow­ings, salt, spittle, hallowed water, anointings, light and others (for of these he speaketh) he hath the testimony of antiquitie, whatsoeuer I say to the cōtrary. But can any man beléeue him on his bare word? sure no. for taking on him to prooue these ceremonies, like a simple ideot he doth not so much as bring any testimony of antiquity for light, holy water, and greasing in baptisme. And the rest, which he bringeth, are farre short of his purpose. so that to proue Owlyglasse a lying companion, I néed no testimony, but Owlyglasse himselfe. his owne loose dis­pute doth proue Ph. Woodward to be a woodden fellow.

falsification 11 In the same chapter, pag. 11. he writeth, that I vtter an vn­trueth so manifest, that Caluin doth confesse it. and yet Caluin was dead long before I wrote any thing. Beside that, he doth not confesse that to be vntruth, which I affirme. for he saith not, that the ceremonies in question were practised by the ancient church, which I denie: but onely affirmeth, that he knoweth how ancient they were. which may be true, albeit they were neither ancient, nor practised by the vniuersall church, but by some few superstitious persons. Finally, he is a simple fellow to tell vs of Caluin, or to make him our iudge, albeit we reue­rence his memory, as being a learned and godly man, and an excellent instrument vsed by the Holy Ghost, to set foorth the trueth of the Gospell wickedly suppressed by Antichrist.

falsification 12 Speaking of our Communion booke: in the same booke, saith Pag. 13. he, lay men and women are permitted to minister bap­tisme. but no man did permit him thus to lie, and to speake without booke. neither would he haue taken himselfe libertie in things not permitted, vnlesse the archpriest or some false Ie­busite had giuen him libertie to lie and speake vntrueth. That [Page 215] he hath maliciously vttered vntrueth, the booke will declare, wherein there is not one word either of lay men, or women permitted to minister baptisme.

falsification 13 Where he saith, pag. 15. that Epiphanius and Hierome af­firme, that married persons vsed not to be admitted to holy or­ders, except they did promise perpetuall continencie from their wiues: he telleth a notorious vntrueth. for neither did Epipha­nius haeres. 59. nor Hierome aduers. Vigilantium, speake one word of promise, or vow made in that case. Beside that, if they should make such a promise, yet were that no warrant to permit men to leaue their wiues in that sort, nor can men de­part or absteine from their wiues without their consent, as the aduersary knoweth, if he know any thing.

falsification 14 He saith, pag. 16. that in maried couples disioined, the band of mariage continueth still. but the conuenticle of Trent. sess. 24. c. 6. and other authors In the chal­lenge. before alledged will tell him, that in mariages dissolued before consummation, this his assertion is vntrue.

falsification 15 Chap. 2. p. 17. most certeine it is, that they said masses, and prayers for the soules departed, saith he, speaking of the fathers of the primitiue church. but in this point not being able to bring foorth one father, that euer said masse or dirge for the dead, he doeth after a close maner giue himselfe the lie. and to make his lying more manifest, I haue in my answere to his exceptions taken away all the colours, that he with his little learning could set vpon the matter. If he rest not with his losse, let him in his next returne shew where any ancient fa­ther said requiem aeternam for the dead, or praied thus, absolue Domine animas omnium fidelium defunctorum ab omni vin­culo delictorum. and finally, let him proue, that the ancient fa­thers beléeued, that Christes body and blood were really offe­red for quicke and dead in the masse. If he can not do this, he talketh idlely of his masse, and sheweth himselfe to be a masse priest rather in a foolish intention, than in certeine knowledge, or true popish deuotion.

falsification 16 Pag. 21. chap. 2. he denieth, that papists put any hope in ima­ges, or that they worship them, as the Gentiles did their gods, or that they offer their praiers or deuotions vnto them. but hée [Page 216] lieth falsely, as his owne conscience may tell him, if he haue any conscience, and be not as stupide as any stocke or stone, which he is wont to worship. secondly the practise of the Romish church must néeds conuince him of lying. for among the Romanists simple people and priests also, not vnlike to hea­then idolaters, fall downe before stocks and stones, set vp lights before them, burne incense to them, pray before them. thirdly, their vsuall formes of praiers doe shew, that he hath told vntrueth, and that lying is with him an vsuall forme. in their rituall books they say, ô crux aue spes vnica. and frier Bartilmew of Siena, that is now said to worke miracles, hath these wordes for his deuise, Christ and his crosse, and Ma­ry, be my guide and keeper▪ and to the portrait of our Saui­ours face, they say, salue sancta facies▪ fourthly their common doctrine is, that the image is to be worshipped with that wor­ship, that is due to the originall. but it is to be doubted, whe­ther the heathen were so grosse idolaters, as to giue that ho­nour to their images. finally they goe on pilgrimage to their images more then euer did the heathen, and doubt not but they are able to doe more, then the heathen idoles, as may ap­peare by the vowes made to the lady of Loreto, and such other saints. for neuer did the heathen more superstitiously worship Diana at Ephesus, then the Romanists worship the image of our lady at Loreto.

falsification 17 Speaking of fastes in Lent, on ember daies, and on the vigiles of saints, he saith, that antiquitie is plentifull, viz. of testimonies in this case. and yet the wooden fellow doeth not bring any one testimony for the fastes vpon vigiles of saints, nor can he prooue the practise of the Romish church by any one testimony alledged by him, precisely.

falsification 18 Pag. 28. chap. 2. he denieth, that papists hold, that Chri­stian men may live without sinne▪ an impudent vntrueth, and wherein he contradicteth himselfe. for if Christians can fulfill all the law of God, as he goeth about with all his little skill to prooue, and that by diuers arguments; then doeth it necessa­rily follow, that they may liue without all sinne.

falsification 19 Pag. 31. he affirmeth, that the forme of confirmation, is as ancient, as the apostles. a lie of great length, reaching to the a­postles [Page 217] times, & thereof to conuince him no man néedeth to go farther then his own confession, who is not able to alledge ei­ther the testimony of the apostles, or any ancient father for this forme of confirmation: signo te signo crucis, & confirmo te Chrismate salutis.

falsification 20 In the same place very impudently he blusheth not to say, that the forme of consecration practised by the Romanists hath alwaies beene holden▪ and would therefore prooue it to be a constituion apostolicall▪ but his assertion is refuted both by histories and fathers, and especially by his owne silence, that speaketh more in a line, then he will prooue all his life.

falsification 21 Pag. 34. he saith papists grant, that there is but one media­tor of redemption, but doubteth not to hold, that there are ma­ny mediators of intercession▪ but he lieth in both these points. for in the masse the priest is said in plaine tearmes to offer pro redemptione animarum. and sure, if they offer vp Christ Iesus properly and really; then are they mediators of redemption. the second point I haue declared to be a notorious lie in my former discourse.

falsification 22 Pag. 43. he hudleth vp diuers lies vpon a heape. first hée saith, auricular confession was ordeined by Christ. secondly, that by the law of God men in mortall sinne were bound to re­paire to the sacrament of auricular confession▪ thirdly, that mortall sinnes are not remitted without auricular confession▪ the first lie is refuted by the testimony of scriptures, wherein neither forme, nor institution of auricular confession is to bée found. The second is conuinced by the booke of Gods law, wherein we finde no colour of such an ordinance. the third is manifested by diuers testimonies of scriptur [...]s, which declare, Galat. 3. that we receiue the promise of the spirit through faith: that Act. 15. faith purifieth our hearts: that, we are washed by Christ his blood, whom we put on; not by outward confession, but by our faith and inward conuersion to God. Furthermore all these lies may be refuted also by the silence of Oulyglasse, that is not able to iustifie any one of his assertions by any text of scripture▪ beside that all papists hold, that confession is a sa­crament of their new law, and not established vnder the law of Moyses, as Oulyglasse would insinuate. finally the decre­tale [Page 218] of Innocentius, vpon which auricular confession depen­deth, being long after the times of the apostles and ancient fathers, is a plaine conuiction of Oulyglasses false dealing, for how can that be either instituted by Christ, or authorized by the law, or déemed necessary, that before Innocent the thirds time was neither established, nor déemed necessary?

falsification 23 Most impudently he affirmeth, Pag. 49. that saint Iames maketh mention of the sacrament of extreme vnction▪ but that may appeare to be a lie, both for that there is no mention of a sacrament there, and for that sacraments are not to be insti­tuted by men, but by God. finally no ancient father did euer expound these words of popish extreme vnction.

falsification 24 Pag. 113. he saith, that I deny, that the matter of the reall presence concerneth any fundamentall point of faith▪ but if hée cannot prooue it out of my words, I hope he will not deny, but that after his woonted fashion he hath told vntrueth.

The rest of his lies you shall finde noted in my answere to his exceptions to my challenge. if then he hath begun to lie so fast, what are we to looke for, if he continue his course of writing? and if his clients doe commend him for these lies; what will they, if he procéed on as he hath begun? I, for my part, will giue my voice, to haue him canonized for lying.

CHAP. XIII. Corollaries, and conclusions gathered out of the former challenge, and the answeres to the exceptions taken to the same.

I Néed not, as I suppose, make any large discourse in drawing out particular con­clusions out of the former challenge and answer▪ for he is very simple, that doth not perceiue, whereto they both do tend. Beside that, I haue héeretofore touched some principall points which especially séeme to deserue consideration. but sée­ing Robert Parsons in his relation sent vs from Rome, beside the report of matters then passed, began first to draw out cer­teine idle obseruations; and perceiuing well, that his woodden scholar Owlyglasse doth second him, and hath likewise endeuo­red to make obseruations, and to draw great conclusions out of his slender and misshapen premisses, I haue thought it not amisse to encounter him, although not in so weake maner with the very like course, and for his obseruations to send him likewise other obseruations and conclusions, being very loth to be behinde him in any course that may serue either to mani­fest the trueth, or to correct the error and trechery of such leud companions.

observation 1 First then I doe obserue, if the Iesuites and their adherents be false prophets and false teachers; that then they are most diligently to be sought out and punnished. the sequele is grounded vpon the law of God. Deut. 13. Moyses speaking of false prophets saith, propheta ille aut fictor somniorū interficietur, quia loquutus est ut auerteret vos à domino deo vestro. that is, that prophet or dreamer of dreames, shall be slaine, because [Page 220] he hath spoken, to disturne you from the Lord your God. where it is to be noted, that false prophets and teachers are fitly ioined with dreamers of dreames. for that he, that teacheth doctrine not grounded vpon the infallable word of God, is no better then a dreamer of dreames. Christian kings they ought to be nurses of Gods church, and haue the sword committed vnto them, not onely to represse seditious persons and wicked malefactors, but also such idolatrous massepriests, as disturbe the peace of the church, and séeke to disturne men from the trueth by their false doctrine. with princes also all true Christians ought to concurre in the detec­ting of such wicked members. If thy brother, saith Moyses, or the sonne of thy mother, or thy sonne, or thy daughter, or thy wife, that lieth in thy bosome, or thy friend, whom thou louest as thy soule, would perswade thee, saying, let vs go and serue o­ther gods, which thou knowest not, nor thy fathers, thou shalt not yeeld vnto him, nor heare him, nor shall thy eye spare him, nor shalt thou pity him, or conceale him, but shall cause him to be slaine. for it is not sufficient for a Christian man to know and follow the trueth, but he must also auoid false doctrine and the seruice of Baal. Christes sheepe, as Iohn 10. he saith, they follow the true sheperd, and a stranger they will not follow. neither may we regard their faire pretences, of reconciling men to the catholicke Romish church, as they call it. for euen wolfes though rauenous, yet now and then come vnto vs in shéepes clothing. but our sauiour Christ giueth vs a caueat, to beware of them. Beware saith Matth. 7. he, of false prophets, which shall come vnto you in sheeps clothing, but inwardly they are rauening wolues. these will smoothly tell you, that they come to saue your soules, and pretend to come from Christes vicar; but they are the ministers of antichrist, and the idolatrous priests of Baal, and come to destroy your soules. by their fruits you shal know them. their study is sedition & alteration of state, their religion heresie and superstition, their life full of filthi­nesse and abomination. neither doe we read of any, that haue harkened vnto the Iesuites of late yéeres, but they haue béene vtterly ruined by them. examples hereof we haue diuers, and the truth which I affirme appeareth by the Scottish Catechism. de Iesuitis. Queene [Page 221] ruined by the wicked counsell of Sammier, that came disguised vnto her all in yelow satin: by the duke of Guise and the lea­guers of France brought to destruction by Claude Matthiew: by king Phillip the 2. of Spaine intricated by the most wicked counsels of Parsons: by the king of Poland that standeth in danger to loose his kingdome of Suethland: by the death and ouerthrow of Sebastian king of Portugall in Barbary: by the prince of Transiluania, that is now by their means dispossessed of Transiluania: Ferdinande of Croatia, who together with his armie was ouerthrowen by a few Turks. listening to these presumptuous fellowes consultations: by the emperor, that is weakened by their seditious practises, losing the aid of diuers princes of religion, by the importunity of these trouble-states. as for inferior lords and gentlemen, that haue béene drawen into practises by Iesuites, and so haue ouerthrowen them­selues, and their houses, the number of them is infinit.

observation 2 Secondly, if masse priests be idolaters, then no man, that is zealous for the honour of God and his true religion may en­dure them. for the law of God, that so rigorously pursueth a false prophet, doeth therefore adiudge him worthy of death, because he went about to draw men from the true worship of God. quia voluit abstrahere te, saith Deut. 13. Moyses speaking to the people, à domino deo tuo. and because he sought to per­swade men to serue idoles and false gods, saying, eamus, & sequamur deos alienos. let vs goe and follow other gods. the 2. Cor. 6. apostle doeth teach vs, that there is no consent betwixt the church of God and idoles▪ qui-consensus saith he, templo dei cum idolis. if it be the church of God, then it admitteth no idoles; if idoles be erected in any place, then that is not the church of God. 1. Cor. 10. he saith also, that Christians cannot both drinke the Lords cup, and the cup of diuels, and by the cup of diuels he vnderstandeth the cup consecrated in honour of idoles. The prophet Dauid therefore speaking of idolaters professeth like a good king, that Psal. 16.he would not offer their of­frings of blood, nor make mention of their names within his lips. 2. King. 18. Hezekias ouerthrow the high places, brake downe the images, out downe the groues, and remooued away all monu­ments of idolatry. Iosias did likewise, and executed to death, [Page 222] such as had burned incense to Baal. 1. King. 18. Helias enflamed with zeale, would not suffer one of Baals prophets to escape. contra­riwise God doth shew himselfe highly displeased with such, as winke at idolaters. the spirit of God speaking to the bishop of Pergamus: Apoc. 2. habeo saith he, aduersus te pauca, quia habes illic tenentes doctrinam Balaam, qui docebat Balac mittere scan­dalum coram filijs Israel, edere, & fornicari. likewise he re­prooueth the bishop of Thyatira sharpely for permitting idola­ters, and false seducing teachers, I haue against thee Apoc. 2. saith he, some few things, because thou doest permit the woman Iezabel to teach and to seduce my seruants, to commit fornication, and to eat of things sacrificed to idoles. finally no man can call himselfe a Christian, that can be content to sée either Gods commandement openly broken in worshipping of idoles, or else secretly frustrated by secret practises and subtile euasions of Baals priests. and as idolaters shall be punished in the lake that burneth with fire and brimstone; so shall they not escape grieuous punishments, that either mainteine them, or winke at them. let no man therefore blame her Maiestie and the State, that cannot endure these idolatrous slaues of anti­christ, and wicked masse priests of Baals order.

observation 3 If the papists be heretikes, then are not either the popes priests to be suffred to broch their hereticall doctrine in secret corners, nor their adherents openly to maintaine their per­uerse opinions. the emperors Gratian, Valentinian, & Theodo­sius L. omnes. Cod. de haeret. put all heretikes to silence. omnes vetitae legibus diuinis, & imperialibus constitutionibus, say they, perpetuò quiescant. Valentinian and Martian L. quicunque ibidem. decréed, that false teachers should be put to death. Vltimo supplicio afficiantur say they, qui illicita docere tentauerint. Constantine did gréeuously punish such, as kept or concealed any books of heretikes, as is testifi­ed by Sozomen, lib. 1. hist. cap. 20. Saint Augustine doeth greatly commend the emperors lawes made against the Do­natistes. and Hierom writing vpon the fift to the Galathians, séemeth much to mislike the remissenesse of diuers in their procéedings against the heretike Arius. as for priuate men they are to follow the apostles counsell 2. Tim. 4. and to auoid these heretikes. saint Epist. 2. Iohn would not haue Christians so [Page 223] much as once to bid them God spéed. nolite iugum ducere saith the apostle 2. Corinth. 6. cum infidelibus. be not yoked with infidels. for what coniunction is there betwixt iustice and iniquitie? it is a hard matter to touch pitch, and not to be de­filed. and hereticall bookes and companions seduce simple soules, that are not able to iudge. finally if reason persuade not blinde papists; yet the iudgements of God denounced a­gainst idolaters may persuade euery man, that is studious of his saluation, to beware of their entisements, and not to fre­quent their company. Salomon though a wise prince, was se­duced by his idolatrous wiues, and Iosaphat hardly escaped danger, accompanying and assisting the idolatrous king A­chab.

observation 4 If all that adhere to forrein enemies, and refuse to acknow­ledge the princes right, and authoritie; and that séeme rather willing and ready to take part with forrein enemies, then to stand in defence of their prince and country, be no otherwise to be accounted of, then as traitors, and publicke enemies; then are all true subiects to deale against massepriests and their ad­herents, as disloyall traitors, and wicked enemies of their prince and country. for princes cannot subsist, vnlesse they maintaine their authority and lawes: nor can subiects liue safe hauing this viperous generation dispersed in euery corner.

In ancient time treason was accounted the greatest crime that could be committed in matters of state, and most seuerely and extraordinarily was the same punished. at this day nei­ther will the Spaniard nor French, nor the Italian princes endure any subiect, that shall either deny his authority or ad­here to forrein enemies; albeit they pretend religion neuer so much naturally euery man is bound to defend himselfe. but the prince is not onely bound by the lawes of nature to looke to his owne safetie, but also by the lawes of state, for that many mens safety and estates doe depend vpon him. as for those that feare, or deferre to take a course with traitors, they are ei­ther stupide, or else pusillanimous.

The Iesuits and their adherents will, I know, deny them­selues to be traitors. so they will also deny the Sunne to shine pro bono societatis, as they terme it, and for their cacolicke [Page 224] cause, but I haue by arguments conuinced them to be trai­tors: and if they answere not categorically, and directly, and without all equiuocations, they will by their owne silence prooue themselues to be traitors. and for the manifestation of their leud disposition, I would pray Robert Parsons, or his schollar Garnet, or Philip woodward, that is so busie, or any of the combination of the archipresbiteriall congregation of trai­tors to answere me directly to these questions ensuing.

First whether they beléeue, the pope by his sentence procée­ding without error against the Queene, and declaring her to be deposed, that they are still to acknowledge her to be law­full Quéene, or no, and to obay her notwithstanding the popes commandement.

Secondly whether in that case the Pope commanding them to take armes against her Maiestie, they ought not to doe it, and are excommunicate and damned like dogges, if the pope commande them to doe it vpon paine of his curse, and they re­fuse it.

Thirdly whether in that case, they will not perswade all pa­pists to take armes against her Maiestie, and whether them­selues will not concurre with them, if the pope excommuni­cate all that refuse.

4 Whether they do not beléeue, that the pope hath power to take her Maiesties crowne from her head.

5 Whether he hath power to dispence with the subiects othes of allegiance, and to command them to rebell.

6 Whether they thinke her Maiesty can be deposed with­out violence offered to her Maiesties person and life.

7 Whether the pope commanding them, they would not deliuer her into the hands of her enemies, or kill her, as Allen in his traiterous exhortation to the nobility and people of England and Ireland, went about to perswade them.

8 Whether they thinke it not lawfull so to doe.

9 Whether the Spaniards, or other forrein enemies comming to execute the popes sentence against the Quéene, they would fight against them displaying the Popes banner, and publishing the popes lawfull sentence (as they suppose) against the Quéene, or take part with them.

10 Whether all are not excommunicate, that disobey the popes sentence, or contumaciously stand against him, it being not knowen, but that he hath procéeded iustly, nor they hauing power to dispute of his doings, or to determine against him.

11 Whether they will allow the fact of the erles of West­merland and Northumberland, that rebelled in England, of Sanders and the Earle of Desmond, that rebelled in Ireland, and such like rebells, or not.

12 Whether they beléeue, that Allen, Sanders, Bristow, Parsons, and such as allow such facts of treasons, be not trai­tors, and haue published trecherous doctrine.

13 Whether they doe take themselues bound in conscience to follow the popes sentences and decrées in deposing of prin­ces, and bestowing of kingdomes vpon strangers, when hée shall command them vpon paine of his curse.

14 Whether they purpose not to mainteine the Infantaes title, if the pope doe so command them, or other prince, that he shall set vp against her Maiestie.

15 Whether they haue not receiued the popes breeues, and enterteined intelligence with him, and his agents. and whether they haue not receiued pensions and money out of Spaine, and thinke it lawfull so to doe. and whether they haue not taken an oth for the Spanish Infantaes title, nor brought a­ny notes of their faction out of Spaine and Italie, as for exam­ple, medalles, graines, reliques, agnus Dei, pictures, crosses, faculties, and such like.

16 Whether hereafter they do not meane to enterteine in­telligence with the Pope and Spaniard, and their agents, and to acknowledge the pope for their superior. All which, if they answere not, they must néeds confesse themselues worthy to be expulsed out of this land, and sent backe to the Pope and Spa­niard, if no worse. for thereby they declare themselues friends to them, and enemies to their countrey.

observation 5 If it be a matter very equall, that euery man should be iud­ged by such lawes, as themselues practise against others, as is apparent by the law. Si quis. ff. quod quis (que) iuris, &c. then haue the Romanists no reason to require any fauour at the hands of our superiours. They put true Christians to death [Page 226] without all remission, if they renounce not the true Christian faith: and those, that are said to deale most mercifully with them, as some popish princes and prelates in Germany, yet do they banish all such, as they suspect not to hold popish religion. Why then do not papists acknowledge the great fauor shew­ed to them by the state, when such notorious idolaters and he­reticks are not serued, as they serue others? and why doe these seditious malcontents exclaime against her Maiesties late proclamation, and the state, that giueth such traitors and le [...]d practisers so faire warning to be packing?

They pardon none, that commit treason in Rome or Spaine. Why then should it be more lawfull for Iesuites and factious masse priests to commit treason in England? is not our coun­trey as deare to vs, as Rome or Spaine to them?

They account it a matter very absurd for any to dispute, whether the Italian or Spanish lawes concerning treason, be iust or no, and whether they be to be executed or not; and such prisoners as should except against lawes abroad, would be laughed to scorne. Why then should Parsons, and Allen, and their traitorous consorts be suffered to raise against the lawes of England, and this state, as they haue done in their railing libels entitled Aduersus persecutores Anglos; Andreas Philo­pater; Sanders de schismate, and diuers other of that nature? or why should any be suffered in corners to whisper against so lawfull and godly procéedings?

The papists will not yéeld to vs sufficient safeconduct and libertie to dispute in Milan, Paris, Collen, and Salamanca. Why then do they bragge, as if they were desirous to dispute and trie their cause in Cambridge and Oxford? and what a ri­diculous point is it to desire that for papists, which themselues will not yéeld to vs?

They will not suffer any bookes of ours to be published in Rome, or other places, where popery is professed, if they con­teine matter of religion; and most seuerely doe they punish such, as either sell such bookes, or reade them, or kéepe them without licence. Why then should not papists confesse, that we haue great reason to take a more strict course than hitherto we haue done with all their books, and pamphlets, and with [Page 227] all that haue them, especially now, séeing that few of them come foorth, but they are fraught with slanders against the state, lies and impostures against religion, and doctrine tend­ing to sedition and corruption of maners?

observation 6 We may further obserue, that no man euer had lesse reason to talke of conscience, than Rob. Parsons, and his disciple Ow­lyglasse, and their damnable consorts deuoid of all conscience. for conscience is grounded onely vpon the lawes of God, and is nothing, but the inward iudgement of euery man of his owne actions, according to the knowledge which he hath of Gods law and his word. And this is gathered out of the apo­stles words, Rom. 1. where he saith, that the Gentiles do shew the worke of the law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing them witnesse, and their thoughts either accusing them, or excusing them. S. Iames 4. Iames he also sheweth vs, that we haue one lawgiuer and iudge, which is able to saue and destroy. S. In exposit. proposit ex e­pist. ad Rom. Augustine expounding the wordes of the apostle, Rom. 1. sheweth, that conscience is nothing, but the iudgement of eue­ry mans soule of his owne actions. Si cor nostrum nos repre­henderit, saithe he, rehearsing the words of Iohn 1. epist. c. 3. maior est Deus conscientia nostra. But the papists ground their conscience vpon the decrées of the pope, vpon the customs of the Romish church, vpon the vaine opinions of euery louzy canonist, vpon the wicked and treasonable conceits of Par­sons, and Allen, in their resolutions of cases of conscience for the English nation, vpon the damnable commandements of their superiors, breaking their necks & running headlong into hell, as soone as they are commanded: and that blindly & wil­fully for other priuat mens pleasures. and this appeareth first by Martin Aspilcuetaes enchiridion of cases of conscience, by the compendium of the Iesuit Alagona, and all the doctrine of Casuistes, which as the aduersaries cannot deny, is grounded as wel vpon the popes decretales and customes, and vpon the lawes, traditions, and customes of the Romish church, and o­pinions of canonists, as vpon the law of God. nay there are farre more cases that concerne the popes law, then that con­cerne Gods law.

Secondly Lib. 4. de Pontif. Rom. c. 15. & seq. Bellarmine teacheth, that the pope hath power [Page 228] to make lawes, that binde in conscience. semper creditum est saith he, episcopos in suis dioecesibus & Romanum Pontificem in tota ecclesia esse veros principes ecclesiasticos, qui possint sua authoritate, etiam sine plebis consensu, vel presbyterorum con­silio leges ferre, quae in conscientia obligent. héereof it fol­loweth also, that all papists are bound in conscience to be­léeue the popes decretales concerning faith, and to obserue his rules concerning manners, and that for conscience sake, and I thinke no papist will deny it.

Thirdly, Allen and Parsons in their most wicked resolutions teach their traitorous schollars, first to weare long haire, secondly, not only to change their names but also to deny their names; thirdly to deny their country & parentage; Resolut. cas. nation. Anglic. cap. 1. cas. 1. fourthly to deny her Maiestie to be lawfull Queene, & her officers to haue power ouer masse priests▪ for that is also taught in the resolution, albe­it not propounded in the case. Ibid. cap. 3. cas. 5. finally to forsweare themselues, and to dissemble and practise all maner of trechery▪ they also shew, how they may eat flesh on fasting daies, and come in company with men of our religion, & neglect the popes lawes also in case of danger▪ in summe their resolutions tend to no other end, but to shew how masse priests with a good consci­ence well wrought & suppled by Robert Parsons, may by helpe of a good Romish conscience betray their countrey to the Spa­niard, and cut their countrimens throats.

Fourthly the Rhemistes in their expositions of the new Te­stament, writing vpon the 23. of the Acts teach their disci­ples how to forsweare themselues, and resolue, that vpon paine of damnation they must breake their othes▪ are these fel­lowes then Christians trow you, that handling the most sa­cred word of God, doe by their wicked expositions teach men to violate their othes, and to abuse the holy name of God?

Finally the Iesuits hold, that the inferior being enioined by the pope, or the generall of that wicked race of Iebusiticall impostors and traitors, to doe any act, or to beléeue any thing, is not to dispute of the matter, but resolutely to execute, what they are commanded. and this they call obedientiam caecam. If then the pope, or the generall of the Iesuits command Par­sons or Garnet to kill the Quéene, or any principall man of [Page 229] England, or their owne mother, by this doctrine it followeth; that they are bound to doe it. is it not strange then, that any Christian state can suffer such traitors and parricides or their adherents to liue among them?

observation 7 The seuenth obseruation shall be for the edification and in­struction of the Romish cacolicks. they call themselues ca­tholicks, and would so be called▪ but I haue declared them to be in a grosse error by very plaine euidence▪ to them therefore I say, that if they desire to be made members of Christes true church, they must come out of the Synagogue of Rome, and forsake the whore of Babylon, and drinke no more of her cup full of all abominations. Secondly if that religion, which is sprong vp of late time, and long after the times of Christ, and his apostles, cannot be true; then the Romish doctrine must néeds be false and counterfeit. Thirdly if papists desire to be true catholicks; then must they renounce the particular religi­on of Romanists, that hath not either of all christians béene knowen, or at all times generally béene receiued. Fourthly if no hereticks deserue the name of Christians; then must they forsake the hereticall opinions of the popes and their proctors, if they will be accounted Christians and true beléeuers. Fift­ly if idolaters shall not enter into the kingdome of heauen, let them beware of the notorious idolatries maintained by the doctrine and practise of popish religion. finally if the Iesuits and massepriests be a faction adhering to the pope, and for­rein enemies; then had they néed to take hede how they re­ceiue them, aide them, ioine with them, or haue any dealing with them.

observation 8 Finally I obserue, that popish religion is nothing else but a packe of lies and impostures, and cannot stand without falsi­fication, fraude, and violence. I haue already verified the same by many particulers. and euery man shall hereby di­scerne, that I haue said trueth, for that neither Parsons, nor a­ny of his consorts will vndertake from point to point to an­swere my chalenge, and to iustifie both all such allegations, as I haue said to be falsified, and also all such narrations, as I haue challenged to be lies and false reportes. I doe rather looke for such a bald ribald like railing libell, as this was, and [Page 230] such pamphlets, as Parsons vseth to set forth vnder counter­fect names.

All you therefore of the Romish religion beware of the abo­minations of Babylon, and of the falshood and fraud of that whore, which sitteth vpon the 7. hils. I haue, as you may perceiue touched but few particulars in comparison of those, which I could haue obiected, if time & laisure would haue ser­ued▪ but if Parsons come forth againe, you shall haue the rest. I will also adde the notorious forgeries lies & calumniations of Posseuin, Gregory de Valentia, Professores quinti euan­gelij. Andreas Iurgiuits Vil­nensis, that denieth vs to beléeue the articles of the apostles créed, and other such villenous companions, not forgetting Alan Copus alias Harpesfield nor Stapleton, nor any notori­ous stickler of that wicked crew.

In the meane while marke, I pray you, how the pope with his Italians and Spaniards laugh and enioy their ease, while a number of English youthes are drawen into danger both of body and soule, running headlong of a blind and furious zeale into treason, and séeking how to maintain the popes tyranny, and to teach his errors and heresies. God for his mercy sake, if it be his holy will open their eies, that they may sée their owne grosse errors, and forsake these pernitious courses, and in the end ioine themselues with the rest of their friends, kins­men and countrimen in a firme resolution not onely for the maintenance of the honor of their prince, country, and na­tion, against all forrein enemies, but also for the de­fence of true religion, against the attempts and assaults of antichrist, and false doctrine of all idolaters and hereticks, the onely vpholders of the kingdome of an­tichrist.

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