[Page] A MODEST REPLY TO Certaine Answeres, which Mr. Ga­taker B. D. in his Treatise of the Na­ture, & vse of Lotts, giveth to Arguments in a Dialogue concerning the Vnlawfulnes of Games consisting in Chance.

And Aunsweres to his Reasons allowing Luso­rious Lotts, as not evill in themselves.

By Iames Balmford, minister of Iesus Christ.

2. Cor. 13. 8.
VVe can doe nothing against, but for the truth▪
Ephes. 5. 11.

Have no fellowship with the vnfruitfull workes Darkenesse, but even reproove them rather.

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[Page] A SHORT AND PLAINE DIALOGVE CON­CERNING THE VNLAW­fulnes of playing at Cards, or Tables, or any other Game consisting in chance.

OFFERED TO THE RELIGI­ous consideration of all such as make conscience of all their wayes.

1. Thessal. 5. 21.
Trie all things, and keepe that which is good.

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Reprinted 1623.

To the right Worshipfull Ma­ster Lionel Maddison, Maior, the Aldermen his Brethren▪ and the godly Burgesses of Newcastle vpon Ti­ne; IAMES BALMFORD wisheth the kingdome of God & his righteousnesse that other things may be ministred vn­to them.

THat which heretofore I haue propounded to you (right Worshipfull & beloued) in teaching, I doe now publish to all men by printing, to wit, mine opinion of the vnlawfulnes of Games consisting in chance. My desire is either information, if I erre in judgment, or reformation, of so leud a practise. But whether I erre or no (which yet I would gladly vnderstand,Rom. 3. 7. for I ought not to teach an vntruth, though to Gods glorie) yet there is none, zealous indeede against sin, desirous from the heart [Page 5] to reclaime sinners, and who deeply conside­reth the greiuous abuses, which accompanie dicing and carding, (as horrible swearing, dangerous quarelling, losse (I say not of good houres, but) of nights and daies, & the pitifull vndoeing of too too manny) but will remember that all things are not1. Cor. 6. 12. expedient, which are lawfull, and therefore abstaine from such Heathenish pastimes, that ifby their example they cannot refor­me,1. Cor. 8. 9. they may be sure they doe not confirme gamesters in their inordinate walking. Which respect▪ the 7. Iniunction forbidding Ministers to vse these vnlawfull games, may besupposed to haue. Now that which authoritie exacteth of Ministers, doth Re­ligion require of all true Professors. For as the one are to be ensamples to the flocke,1. Tit. 5. 3. Phil. 1. 5. 1. Cor. 8 10. 13. so the other are to be lights in the world. And therefore as Paul saith, If meate of­fend my brother, I will eate no flesh while the world standeth: so euery true Christian should say, and that with more resolution (for Play is not so necessarie as meate) If [Page 6] play offend my brother, who seeing me▪ hauing knowledge, play, is boldned to follow gaming, I will not play while the world standeth. Which care vnto edification, ifPsal. 50. 16. 17. all, who haue the word in their mouthes, and would not be thought to hate to be re­formed, would manifest in their sincere conuersation; and if Magistrates, whoRom. 13 4. 33. H. 8. c. 9. [...]. E. 6. c. 25. should not carrie the sword in vaine, would doe what they may by law, to banish these forbidden past-times, or rather lost-ti­mes, I doubt not, but that preaching and writing against thē would more mightily prevaile, and this good would come of it, many would applie themselues to better ex­ercises, there would bee lesse time mispent in Alehouses, and Godlesse prouoked to displeasure against vs. But these things I referre to the consideration of the wise, and this my Dialogue to the iudgment of the godlie, chiefly to you, whose good I wish especially. Farewell: From my studie the first of Ian­uarie 1593.

A short and plaine Dialogue concerning the vnlawfulnes of playing at Cards or Tables, or any other game con­sisting of chance.

Professor.

SIR, howsoeuer I am perswa­ded by that which I reade in the common places of Peter Martyr, par. 2. pag. 525. b. that Dice (condemned both by the Civill lawes, and by the Fathers) are therefore vnlawfull, because they depend vpon chance: yet not satisfied with that which he writeth of Table-playing, pag. 526. b. I would crauē your opinion concer­ning playing at Tables and Cards.

Preacher.

Sauing the iudgement of so excellent a Diuine, so farre as I can learne out of Gods word, [Page 8] Cardes and Tables seeme to me [...] no more lawfull (though lesse of­fensiue) than Dice. For Table­playing is no whit the more lawfull because Plato compares the life of man thereunto, than a theefe is the more iustifiable, because Christ compareth his second comming, [...]o Burglarie in the night, Mat. 24. 4 [...] ▪ 44. Againe, if Dice be wholly [...]ill▪ because they wholly depend vpon chance, then Tables & Cards must needes be some what euill▪ because they somewhat depend vpon chance. Therefore consider well this reason, which condemneth the one as wel as the other: Lots are not to bee vsed in sport; but games consisting in chance as Dice, Cardes, Tables, are Lots: thereforeIoh. 8. 40. 1. Cor. 11. 15. not to be vsed in sport.

Prof.

For my better instruction, proue that Lots are not to be vsed in sport.

Preach.

Consider with regard [Page 9] these three things: First, that we [...] 1. reade not in the Scripture that Lots were vsed but only in serious matters both by the Iewes, Ios. 18. 10. and Gentiles, Ion. 1. 9. Secondly, 2. that a Lot in the nature therof doth as necessarily suppose the special prouidence & determining presence of God, as an oath in the nature therof doth suppose the testifying presence of God. Yea so, that (as in an oath, so) in a lot prayer is expressed, or to bee vn­derstood, 1. Sam. 14. 41. Thirdly, 3. that the proper end of a Lot (as of an oath, Heb. 6. 16.) is to end a con­troversie: and therefore for your bettet instruction examine these reasons. Whatsoeuer directly, or1. of it sefe, or in a speciall manner, tendeth to the advancing of the name of God, is to be vsed religi­ously, Mal. 1. 6. 7. and not to be vsed in sport: as wee are not to pray [Page 10] or sweare in sport, Exod. 20. 7. Esa▪ 29. 13. Ier. 4. 2. but the vse of Lots, directly of it selfe and in a speciall manner tendeth to the aduancing of the name of God, in attributing to his speciall prouidence in the whole and immediate disposing of the Lot, and expecting the euent, Pro. 16. 33. Act. 1. 24. 26. There­fore the vse of Lots is not to be in2. sport. Againe we are not to tempt the Almightie by a vaine desire of manifestation of his power and spe­ciall prouidence, Psal. 78. 18. 19. Esa▪ 7. 12. Matth. 4. 6. 7. But by vsing Lots in sport we tempt the almigh­tie, vainly desiring the manifesta [...] of his speciall prouidence in his im­mediate3. disposing, Therfore, &c. Lastly, whatsoeuer God hath sanc­tified to a proper end is not to bee peruerted to a worse, Matth. 21. 12. 13. But God hath sanctified Lots to a proper end, namely to end [Page 11] troversies, Num. 26. 55. Pro. 18. 18. therefore man is not to peruert them to a worse: namely to play, & by playing to get away another mans money, which without con­trouersie is his owne. For the com­mon saying is, Sine lucro friget lusus, No gaining, cold gaming.

Profes.

God hath sanctified Psalmes to the praise of his name, & bread & wine to represent the bodie & bloud of our cruci­fied Sauiour, which be holie ends: and the children of God may sing Psalmes to make themselues merrie in the Lord, and feede vpon bread & wine not only for necessitie but to cheere themselues; why then may not Gods children recreate themselues by lotterie notwithstanding God hath sancti­fied the same to end a controuersie?

Preach.

Because we finde not in the Scriptures any dispensation for recreation by lotterie, as wee doe for godlie mirth by singing, Iam. 5. 13. and for religious and so­ber [Page 12] cheering our selues by eating and drinking, Deut. 8. 9. 10. And therefore (it being withall consi­dered that the ends you speake of, be not proper, though holy) it followeth, that God who only dis­poseth the Lot touching the e­uent, and is therefore a principall actor, is not to bee set on worke by lotterie in any case, but when hee dispenseth with vs, or giueth vs leaue fo to doe: But dispensation for recreation by lotterie cannot be shewed, Therefore, &c.

Profes.

Lots may be vsed for profit in a matter of right, Num. 26. 55. why not for pleasure?

Preach.

Then oathes may be vsed for pleasure, for they may fot pro­fit, in a matter of truth, Exod. 22. 8. 11. But indeede lots (as oathes) are not to bee vsed either for pro­fit or pleasure, but onely to end a coutrouersie.

Profes.
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The wit is exercised by Tables and Cards, therefore they be no lots.

Preach.

Yet lotterie is vsed by casting Dice, and by shuffling and cutting the Cards before the wit is exercised. But how doth this follow? Because Cards and Ta­bles bee not naked Lots, consis­ting only in chance (as Dice doe) they are therefore no lots at all. Although (being vsed without cogging, or packing) they con­sist principally in chance, and the­fore from thence they are to receiue their denomination. In which respect a Lot is called in Latin Sors, that is, chance or hazard, and Lyra vpon Prou. 16. saith, To vse Lots, is, by a va­riable euent of fome sensible thing, to determine some doubt­full or vncertaine matter, as to draw cutts, or to cast Dice.

But whether you will call Cards [Page 14] and Tables Lots, or no, you play with chance or vse Lotterie. Then consider whether exercise of wit doth sanctifie playing with lotte­rie, or playing with lotterie make such excercising of wit, a sinne, Hag. 2. 13. 14. For as a calling God to witnes by vaine swearing is a sinne, 2. Cor. 1. 13. so making God an vm­pire, by playing with lotterie, must needs be a sinne: yea, such a sin as maketh the offender (in some res­pects) more blame-worthy. For there be more occasions of swea­ring than of lotterie. Secondly, vaine oathes most commonly slip out at vnawares, whereas lots can­not be vsed but with deliberation. Thirdly, swearing is to satisfie other, wheras this kind of lotterie is altogether to fulfill our own lust. Therefore take heede, that you bee not guiltie of peruerting the ordinance of the Lord, of ta­king [Page 15] the name of God in vaine, and f tempting the Almightie, by a [...]amesome putting of things to ha­ard, and making play of lotterie, xcept you thinke that God hath o gouvernment in vaine actions, r hath dispensed with such lewd [...]ames.

Profes.

In shooting there is a chance, [...] a sudden blast, yet shooting is no lot­erie.

Preach.

It is true, for that chance [...]ommeth by accident, and not of [...]he nature of the game, to be [...]sed.

Profes.

Lots are secret, and the whole disposing of them is of God, Pro 16. 33. [...]ut it is otherwise in Tables and Cards.

Preach.

Lots are cast into the [...]ap by man, and that openly, lest conveiance should be suspected: [...]ut the disposing of the chance is secret, that it may be chance in­deede, and wholly of God, who di­recteth [Page 16] all things, Prou. 16. 13. 9. 33 So in Tables, man by faire casting Dice truly made, and in Cardes by shuffling and cutting, doth o­penly dispose the Dice and Card so, as whereby a variable euen may follow: but it is onely and im­mediatly of God, that the Dice be so cast, and the Cards so shuffled and cut, as that this or that gam followeth, except there be cogging and packing. So that in faire play mans wit is not exercised in dispo­sing the chance, but in making the best of it being past.

Profes.

The end of our play is recrea­tion, and not to make God an vmpire: but recreation (no doubt) is lawfull.

Preach.

It may be the souldiers had no such end when they cast lots for Christ his coate, Matth▪ 27▪ 25. but this should be your end when you vse lotterie, as the end of an oath should be, to call God [Page 17] to witnesse. Therefore as swea­ring, so Lotterie, without due res­pect is sinne. Againe, howsoever recreation be your pretended end, yet remember that wee must not doe euill that good may come of it, Rom. 3. 8. And that therefore wee are to recreate our selues by lawfull recreations. Then see how Cardes and Tables be law­full▪

Profes.

If they be not abufed by swea­ring or brawling, playing for too long time, or too much money.

Preach.

Though I am perswa­ded that it is not lawfull to play for any money, considering thankes cannot be giuen in faith for that which is so gotten, De [...]t. 23. 18. Esa▪ 61. 8. Gamesters worke not with their hands the thing that good, to be free frō stealing, Eph. 4. 18. & the looser hath not answerable benefit for his money so lost, Gen▪ 29. 15. con­trarie [Page 18] to that equitie which Aristotle by the light of nature hath taught long since, Eth. [...]. [...]. 4. yet I grant that Cards and Tables so vsed as you speake are, lesse sinfull, but how they bee lawfull I see not yet.

Profes.

Good men and well learned vse them.

Preach.

Wee must liue by pre­cepts, not by examples, except they be vndoubtedly good. The­refore examine whether they be good, and well learned in so doing or no. For euery man may erre, Rom. 3. 4.

Profes.

It is not good to be too just, or too wise, Eccl. 7. 18.

Preach.

It is not good to be too wicked or too foolish, Eccl. 7. 19. in despising the word of God, Prou. 1. 22. and not regarding the weaknesse of others, Rom. 14. 21. Let vs therefore beware [Page 19] that we loue not pleasure more than godlinesse,

2. Tim. 3. 4.
FINIS.

[Page 21] CHristian Reader; it is no new thing that men▪ learned, wise, and judi­cious, holding the same orthodox, and sound truth of God, in respect of maine, and fundamentall points of Chris­tian Religion, doe sometimes differ in their opinions, and be of diffe­rent judgments touching some things of lesse importance▪ It plea­seth God (who ordereth all things most wisely for the spirituall good of his owne) by his wise disposing hand to order differences in opi­nion, and judgment in the smallest matters for the further good of his Church. Though the iarring of Paul, and Barnabas (Act. 15. 37.) cau­sed a separation of the one from the other, yet (God so disposing) [Page 22] the Church gott much good by it and things questioned, and contro­verted (though of lesser weight are commonly more narrowly se­arched into, and vpon diligen [...] search into them, they come to b [...] better cleared, and the gifts o [...] worthy men to be better knowne It were no hard matter to instanc [...] in many particulars clearing thi [...] from many ages fore-going; but [...] list not to enter into that large field. The ensuing Reply conside­red with the occasion of it, may, in part, evidence, the truth herein▪ Some yeares since, the Authour o [...] this Reply, published a Dialogu [...] touching Lottery, and Lotts, dis­prooving, (by diverse arguments,) the vsing of Lotts in sport, and in play; and now some few yeares past finding his arguments oppo­sed, and helde as weake, and insuf­ficient, by a worthy, reverend, and [Page 23] judicious Divine, in a treatise of his printed touching the Nature, and vse of Lotts, he held himselfe bound, vpon further, and more se­rious consideration of the point called into question, either to alter his judgment, or to endeavour, to strengthen his former arguments: He hath sett vpon the buisinesse, and now offered to thy view (Chris­tian Reader) his Reply tending to the further strengthning▪ and con­firmation of those arguments. My poore judgment touching this Re­ply being desired by the Authour, I could not but yeeld it vnto him, he being my reverend, and loving freind, to whom I am obliged by many bondes of love. I have pe­rused it, & so farre as I, (in my wea­knesse) can judge, the Authour hath herein carried himselfe wisely, and [...]udiciously, and so as, I thinke, may satisfie any indifferent reader, and [Page 24] with all (as I take it) modestly, and temperately, and without the least breach of charity towards the wor­thy Opponent. Happily I may be thought vnfitt thus to giue mine opinion, because (as I freely con­fesse, & have openly made know­ne) I iumpe with this Authour in iudgment in the point controver­ted, but I professe before him, who knowes the hearts of all men, that, which here I putt downe, is (as I conceive) according to the truth, without any inclining, or partiall affection to the one one side, or to the other, and I desire not to enter­taine the least thought, that may praeiudice the worth of the reve­rend, learned, and godly Opponent, being alsoo my deare, and loving freind, and one whom I am bound, in many respects, both to love, and reverence. Looke vpon this Re­ply (whosoever thou art) with an [Page 25] vnpartialleye, and consider it se­riously, and fin ding that good by it, which is intended, blesse God for it, who guideth, and blesseth all things to his owne glory, and to the good of his owne.

Thine in the Lord Iesu [...] Edw: Elton. B. in D. and Pastor of S. Mary Magda len's Bermond­sey neare London.

2. Tim. 3. 4. To the Christian Reader being none of those men▪ who, (accor­ding to S. Paul's prophecy,) love pleasures more than God.

Ionah. 1. 7. SOme yeares are past since Mr. Gataker tooke occasion, from casting of Lotts to finde out for whose sake a daun­gerous storme was, to justisie play­ing with Dice, Cards, &c. and to confute me by name in open pul­pit. I hearing thereof by many, sent him this message. If it would please him to send the substance of the Confutation (for I dare not re­ly vpon report) I would either re­ply, or chaunge mine opinion [Page 27] with thankes to God for him; though for the present, I thought he failed in Indgment, Discretion, and Charity. In Iudgment. Be­cause that Doctrine was not draw­ne from his Text; Except this be a judicious deduction. Gentiles cast Lotts in a most serious matter, the­refore Christians may vse Lottery in dicing, carding, &c. In Discre­tion. Because that Doctrine (though occasioned by his text, yet) so insisted vpon, incourageth gamesters in their sinfull course and buildeth vp those abuses, which the Lawes of our Land, would pull downe. In Charity; Because he con­futeth me by name, (as I was cer­tified) not having had any confe­rence with me either by speech, or by writing, though I be his neigh­bour Minister. Well; Mr. Gataker, sent me his answere to my dialogue. I acknowledge it with hearty than­kes. [Page 28] But why have I not replyed in so many yeares? I answere, Sa [...]itò, si sat benè. To speake freely I thinke, I should never have re­plied, in hope that the question would have died, had not Mr. Gata­ker confuted my Dialogue in print▪ But now, the rather, being provo­ked▪ by many learned Ministers & other, who tell me, that, seeing of all those whom Mr. Gataker confu­teth, viz: Peter Martyr, Zuinglius, Cart­wright, 10 1. Danoeus, Perkins, Fenner, &c. I onely live, I ought to reply, least my silence should give way to im­piousiniquity, I am ready to per­forme my promise in replying. Which (indeed) I could not have done so conveniently before, be­cause the answer, which Mr. Gata­ker sent me, had not the positiue groundes of his opinion, which the printed booke hath.

Before I proceed▪ I protest be­fore [Page 26] God, that I esteeme Mr. Ga­ [...]aker as a learned, painfull, and faithfull Minister, and a right honest man, and therefore pray thee (Christian Reader) that what­soever I write may be conside­red as concerning the question betweene vs, and not in any wise applied to the least praejudice of so reverend a brother, or to any of his excellent parts; So excellent, that I wonder what mooved him to publish his opi­nion in print, and the more, be­cause of many passages in his booke. First, He taketh know­ledge1▪ of many enormous crimes, which accompany Dice, Cardes, &c. pa. 193. & in the quotations. Se­condly; 2. He giveth this rule, That, that, which is no necessary duety, but a thing indifferēt onely, other­wise, may not be done, where is strōg presumptiō vpō good ground [Page 30] yet it shall spiritually endanger a mans selfe, or others, by giving oc­casion of sinne vnto the one, or the other. pag. 107. 108. 109.

If many and greivous sinnes at­tend dice, cardes, &c. If those ga­mes be too too commonly abused, as he confesseth. pa: 194. and if an indifferent thing may not be done which giveth occasion of sinne, I wonder why Mr. Gataker writeth in defence of dice, &c. and the more, because he graunteth, that, where the vse, and abuse of a thing are so inwrapped, and intangled to­gither, that they cannot easily be severed the one from the other, then the vse of the thing it selfe, (if it be vnnecessary otherwise) would be wholely abandoned, pag. 262. 263. Thirdly; He sheweth in many pages▪ how severely tables, but es­pecially dice, be condemned by Lawes, Civill, Canonicall, and Muni­cipall, [Page 31] that is, our English statutes, as [...]e sheweth at large, Lib. 8. § 5. 8. He wisheth the Lawes were yet [...]ore severe, & putt in better exe­ [...]ution, pà. 206. He saith, yet our [...]ommon dicers may be marshalled [...]mong ye flock, of ye Devill's fol­ [...]owers, pa. 217. He affirmeth most [...]ifelings, and Lotteries to be little [...]etter than vnlawfull games, pag. [...] 20. And he teacheth, that, by [...]heis games, we must not give of­ [...]ence to the Lawes vnder which [...]ee live, pa. 251. Now I wonder, [...]hat so good a man is not affraid to offend our Law by allowing for­ [...]idden games, even Dice, as well [...]s Cardes, &c. which consist not onely of Lottery. Here I have oc­casion to thinke, that I may have [...]ome more comfort in mine opi­nion, than Mr. Gataker can have in [...]is; For he nameth famous, lear­ned, and godly men concurring [Page 32] with me in opinion: But in t [...] multitude o [...] his quotations, I find none approoving Dice in play, an whereas some learned Divines, i some sort, allow games consistin of Lott, and [...]itt, but altogethe condemne D [...]e, Mr. Gataker defe [...] ­deth mine opinion, disapproovin [...] a mixt▪ as well as a mere Lott, b [...] ­cause (as he saith) a true Lott is i [...] either, pa. 126. and, He deemet [...] them to be amisse, who allow Lott in game, and yet adde for a cautio [...] that Religionsnesse be vsed in th [...] action, in regard that Holy thing [...] must be done in an holy manne [...] 4. pa. 133. Fourthly, He graunteth tha [...] Prayer specially applied to th [...] Lott may be conceived, where th [...] matter is more weighty, and th [...] event of some consequence, pa. [...]1 [...] And yet he holdeth, that the less [...] weighty the matter is, wherein [...] Lott is vsed, the lawfuller the Lott [Page 33] is, pag. 111. The reason, why I won­der at this passage, shall be given in my Reply. The last passage now to be observed as matter of my wondering, is this; Notwithstan­ding, he confidently affirmeth that we may not doe ought without warrant, pag. 301. Sufficiently con­firmeth the same, because such an Act is not done of Faith, and there­fore not free from sinne, Rom. 14. 23. but is a mere presumption, and tempting of God, pag. 313. and quot. A▪ and B. and Earnestly re­prooveth one kinde of Lottery (why not all, against which the same reason is of like validity?) because not found revealed in any word of God, but brought in either by Sathan, or by some of his instru­ments who are addicted to Vanity, pag. 315. and 316. and, yet he avoucheth, That it is a sufficient warrant for the vse of Lottes, [Page 34] In that the oppugners, being lear­ned, can say nothing against them▪ but what hath beene, or may be sufficiently answered, pag. 235.

May I not wonder that so judi­cious a scholler doth not observe this discrepance? Lottery is vnlaw­full, if not warranted by the word which positiō supposeth the Wor [...] to be perfect, as is the Authou [...] thereof, and 2. Lottery is lawful [...] if Learned men can say nothing ou of the Word against it. Which po­sition supposeth two things, viz That the Word is like the Lawes o men, that is, Imperfect, as be the Au­thours therof; and, That Learne [...] men cannot so faile in Diligence o reading, Clearenesse of vnderstan­ding, and Firmenesse of Memory but that▪ if there were in the Wor [...] anything against Lottery, the [...] could nor but see it. Well; It ma [...] be seene shortly, how Mr. Gataker Dili­gence, [Page 35] Vnderstanding, and Memo­ry have served him in defenoing Lusorious Lotts. In the meane while, Sufficiency of his answering is but vpon the Triall, and not yet adjudged.

All theis passages well reveiwed by Mr. Gataker I should thinke he cannot wonder that a man of 64. yeares compleate, (and therefore his wittes may faile) doth wonder that so godly, wise, and learned a man, the faculties of whose minde are at the best, did not say to him­selfe, before he preached, much more before he penned this luso­rious doctrine, Let Baal plead forIudg. 6▪ 31. [...]2. Esa. 5. 18 himselfe; and, Theis gamesters shall, without any encouragment from me, draw on their iniquity [...]ith theis cordes of vanity; and the rather, because he acknowledgeth that accoumpt is to be given vnto God of gaming pa. 261. If of the act [Page 36] much more of justifying it. Fro m which account good Lord deliver me. For I feare, that in iustifying lusorious Lottes, I should put false spectacles on a gamester's nose, whereby the bridge seemeth broa­der, than it is, and so he falleth in without feare, to vse Mr. Gataker si­militude, pag. 264. But Mr. Gataker beleveth, that he hath written the truth, (Preface to the Reader) and is confident that truth is to be knowne, especially concerning matters of common practise, pag. 263. and giveth foure reasons, by which he was mooved to defend1. lusorious Lottes, pag. 264. The first is, To draw men from Superstition in restraining themselves, when God doth not restraine them. This beggeth the question, (as I hope) will appeare in the Reply. [...]. A 2. motive is, Because arguments against lusorious Lottes have made [Page 37] many stagger in the necessary vse of serious civill Lottes. It may be so some failing in their judgment: But it may be also, that many moe will be made to stagger by reading Mr. Gatakers exceptions against ar­guments for, and cautions, in those serious Civill Lottes, Cap. 5. and by his Maxime, [The lesse weighty the matter is, wherein a Lott is vsed, the lawfuller the Lott is, pag. 111.] A 3. motive is, To take away3▪ much heart-burning; Nay, ra­ther this justifying Lusorious Lottes will not onely cause more heart-burning; but incourage also gamesters to overcrow such, as are scrupulous. For, if many well af­fected have beene constrained, in regard of scruple, in this kinde, to straine themselves to some inconveniences by refusall of those games, when by those, whom they had dependance vpon, [Page 38] vpon or familiarity withall, they have beene vrged occasionally therevnto (which to prevent here­after, is a 4. cause of his writing) How will those supporters, and fa­miliars insult vpon the scrupulous▪ now they have so learned a Pa­trone of their gaming? Some have strained themselves, to some in­conveniences for not pledging drunken Healths, being drinke offe­rings to Bacchus. To prevent which hereafter, should Mr. Gata­ker doe well, vnto aedification, to preach, and write in Iustification of these Healths? The summe of his causes (as he expresseth himselfe in his preface to the Reader) is, To sett at Liberty the intangled consciences of Godly disposed persons. Indeed; If any conscien­ce, simply for playing with Lottes, should seeke his his satisfaction in private, then if Mr. Gataker quie­ted [Page 39] him by his grounds (supposed true) it were not amisse. But is eve­ry doctrine, though true, to be in­sisted vpon both by preaching, and printing, and that affirming matter in question, and of no necessary vse? I say, Affirming, remembring the holy wisedome of the Apostles, and Elders, who decreed touching offensive things (yet some of them lawfull, if conveniently vsed) onely negatively, and deemeth it not ne­cessaryAct. 15. 28. 29. to decree affirmatively things that were then, and might be in vse for a time. Many (I feare too many) learned Divines approo­ve Vsury in their Iudgment, thouh condemned by Law. Yet none, that I know, ever insisted vpon the Iustification thereof by preaching and printing. Againe; Was there ever any so troubled with playing with Lotts? I doubt it; But without doubt thousandes will now more [Page 40] boldly vse lusorious Lotts without regard of the cautions, in theis li­centious times. As Vsurers regard not the cautions which Divines sett downe. For it is enough to them, that some godly Divines affirme Vsury to be lawfull. O that Mr. Gataker had considered what he writeth, pag. 107. before cited, and what he writeth, pag. 103. and 104. viz: Where inconveniences, that shall necessarily, or in good pro­bability, appeare to accompany the thing questioned, or ensu [...] vpon the doing thereof, shall be such, and so great as the Conve­niences, which stand on the other side, shall not be able to counter­vaile, there that action is worthily disallowed as Inconvenient, and [...] Lott consequently vnlawfull, wha [...] he writeth in his spirituall Watch pag. 27. viz: The rifer any evill i [...] in those places, or ages we live i [...] [Page 41] the more carefull should we be to shunne, and avoide such a sinne. No doubt he would have taken heede how by writing he make way to the sinne of, or by, Lusorious Lotts. Many Divines and intelli­gent men, though of opinion that Lusorious mixed Lotts may be vsed lawfully, yet wish that Mr. Gataker had never published his booke. For a running horse (say they) needeth no spurring. For my part I wish, that Mr. Gataker had beene affected in writing, as he professeth himselfe to be in the vse of luso­rious Lottes, pag. 266. Wel; What­soever he writeth dogmatically, he wisheth thee (good Reader) to imitate him in▪ his practise, to witt, That, albeit in judgment thou art rightly informed of the truth concerning the lawful­nesse of theis games in them­selves; yet in godly discretion, [Page 42] thou wouldst rather abandō them, considering the too too common, and ordinary abuse of them, and that many (it may be) among whom thou livest may remaine vnresol­ved, and vnsatisfied, touching the lawfulnes of them, pag. 267. I desire the same, and therewith a suspen­ding thy judgment vntill thou hast well considered my Dialogue, Mr. Gatakers answeres, and my Reply, together with mine answere to his positive groundes. Here I promi­se (with Mr. Gataker, pag. 128.) to raze what I have reared, if my Reply and aunsweres be prooved insuf­ficient, and so commend thee to God, and to the Word of his Gra­ce, which is able to build further. Onely, consider what I say, and the Lord give thee vnderstanding inAct. 20. 32. 2. Tim▪ 2. 7. all things.

To the Reader.

THat I may doe Mr. Gataker no wrong I am to lett thee know that the 14. of March. 1622. Stil: Ang. Mr. Gataker denied naming me when he confuted mine arguments in Pulpit, yet confessing that he named me in Pul­pit, with others, diversely dissenting from him in judgment touching Lusorious Lotts when he entred into the question of play­ing with Lotts.

An Answere to Reasons in­ducing M. Gataker to allow lu­sorious Lottes, as not evill in themselves, Lib. 6. § 4.

THIS Tenent seemeth to me more fearefull▪ then beseemeth a lear­ned man, who, after the turning over a wō ­derfull n umber of bookes to com­pile his Historicall, and Theologi­call Treatise of the Nature, and Vse of Lotres, setteth downe his judgment. Allowing lusorious Lottes onely as not evill in themselves, whereas he affirmeth them to be lawfull in themselves, pag. 266. So that if theis games be vsed with [Page 45] due observation of all his cautions, why is he fearefull to allow them as good in themselves? How then may a scrupulous man, who remem­brethEzek. 36 31. not onely his wicked wicked wayes, but his deedes also that are not good, build vpon such quagmiry grounds? Againe; Allowing theis games onely as not evill in themselves doth not manifest that Love of God, which (I doubt not) is in Mr. Gatakers heart. For whereas God is glorified by good workes,Math. [...]. 16. and theis games be too too com­mon, and accompanied with many crying sinnes, whereby God is every where, and dayly much dis­honoured, the Love of God would have constrained him, if doingIohn. 5. 21. truth, to haue brought theis games to the light, that thereby it might be made manifest, that they are wrought according to God. Last­ly; By this Tenent he sheweth [Page 46] not due Charity to his neighbour. For now it is enoug for Gamesters to pleade; A very learned man holdeth our Gaming to be not evill in it selfe. The­refore they will not seeke, further to know, whither it be good in it selfe, forgetting that it is writen▪ Math. 3. 10. [The axe is putt to the roote of the trees, therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruite▪ is hewen downe, and cast into the fire.] Is not then hereby his neighbour's spirituall daunger oc­casioned? But here (perhappes) it may be said, The first Reason, prooving that a Lott may be mat­ter of Recreation, doth give me a checke: It is a checke? Then I will try if I cannot avoide the Mate. The Argument, collected with all faith­fulnes, (as the rest, and his aun­sweres be,) is this.

M. G. 1. That which may be ordinarily vsed in other Civill affaires, be they [Page 47] more or lesse weighty, may also be vsed for matter of recreation, and delight: But a Lott may be ordina­rily vsed in other Civill affaires. Therefore I see not what should banish it out of our disportes, more than out of other (though serious yet) Civill affaires.

I. B. 1. Is not this a fearefull conclusion like the Tenent? Why doth not Mr. Gataker conclude positively thus. Therefore a Lott may be v­sed for matter of recreation, and delighte. He (forsooth) see's not. Can a blinde man goe stoutly on his way? But (blessed be God) Mr. Gataker seeth well, though not in this point. Bernardus non vidit omnia. For, if God had opened his eyes in this point, he might have seene plainely what should banish a Lott out of disportes, more than out of other Civill affaires. To witt, Be­cause God alloweth a Lott to be v­sed [Page 48] in them, but not in theis; and It is praesumption, of sett purpose, to imploy God but as it may stand with his pleasure. Hereof more hereafter. In meane while, in fur­ther aunswer to this argument I deny the Proposition thereof. For an Oath may be ordinarily v­sed in other Civill matters, yet not for matter of Recreation: Whereof also more hereafter. Now I pro­ceed to the 2. reason, which is sett downe in twoo shapes; The for­mer is this.

M. G. 2. That which best sorteth with the nature of a Lott, may a Lott most lawfully be vsed vnto: But the lightest matters best sort with the nature of a Lott: Therefore about things of that nature may a Lott most lawfully be vsed. The Pro­position he prooveth thus. Great is the vncertainty of a Lott. The­refore not fitt to be vsed in any [Page 49] weighty affaire.

I. B. 2▪ A Lott is sometimes taken for the instrument of purpose dispo­sed vnto casualty, as [The Lott is cast Prou. 16 3 [...]. 1. Sam. 14. 41▪ into the lappe:] and sometime for the event, as, [Give a perfect Lott] Which, howsoever it be casuall in relation to the former, yet, falleth out certainely this, or that, by God's whole disposing the former, Prov. 16. 33. I therefore deny both the Proposition, and Assumption perswaded that Mr. Gataker would never have sett downe this suppo­sed reason, if a Lott, in the former acception, had not drawne his religious eye from God as the onely disposer thereof to be a Lott in the latter acception. So that I mervaile much, that he findeth a Lott to be not fitt to be vsed in any weighty affaire. For why? Dividing the Land of promise, Numb. 26. 55. by Lott. [Page 50] Discovering Achan. Iohs. 14. Chusing of a king. 1. Sam. 10. 20. 81. and of an Apo­stle Acts: 1. 26. were they not weigh­ty affaires? Nay rather the premi­ses considered, a Lott may more lawfully be vsed about weighty af­faires. But indeed▪ whether the subiect matter be more or lesse weighty, a Lott may be vsed about it, provided it be with Gods allow­ance. For want whereof both Di­vinatory, and Lusorious Lotts be equally vnlawfull. The other shape of his reason, more particu­larly (as he saith) for the present buisinesse is this.

M. G. A matter of mere indifferency, that is, such as a man may lawfully doe, or not doe, and it is not mate­riall whether he doe, or omitt, such may a man lawfully putt to the ha­zard of the vncertaine motion of the Creature, whether he shall doe it, or not doe it▪ But the vsing of [Page 51] a Lott in game is but the putting of a matter of mere indifferency to the hazard of an vncertaine e­vent. Therefore the putting of such matters to the hazard of a Lott, is not evill simply in it selfe.

I. B▪ What a trembling argument is this? In the Proposition he spea­keth of a Lott in the former accep­tion. In the Assumption, of a Lott in the latter acception. Indeed a man may be bolder with the Crea­ture, so it be without relation to God, than with the Creatour him­selfe. In the Proposition he affir­meth lawfullnes but concludeth onely, as not evill simply in them­selves. Indeed, the conclusion is to follow the worse part: But in this Argument the Assumption is particular, and the Conclusion is generall▪ What? Is Mr. Gataker af­fraid to put (The vsing of a Lott in game) into the conclusion? is not [Page 42] the Minor to be the Subiect, and the Maior to be the Praedicate of the Conclusion? I will not quaestion the Figure of this praetended argu­ment if Sub: prae: prima: will serve the turne; and though I finde it in no Moode, yet will I answer the two fore-pieces thereof. The former is not true, except Mr. Gataker vnder­stand a matter of mere indifferency controverted. For though such a matter may be the subiect matter of a Controversy, yet a matter controverted is the onely subiect matter of a Lott, otherwise it is no Lott, as Mr. Gataker truely writeth even in this case, pag. 167. If Mr. Ga­taker so vnderstand, then there is some necessity of ending the con­troyersy putt to the determina­tion of a Lott, and consequently it is not then merely in the wiil of a man whether he shall doe it, or no doe it. In the other piece I obser­ve, [Page 53] that Mr. Gataker speaking of a Lot in the second acception, sup­poseth it to be vncertaine. Which is begging the question, for the reason given in mine aunswere to his former shaped argument. Nei­ther it is true that if in game, a con­troversy (truly so termed) be deci­ded by a Lot, a matter then of mere indifferency is put to hazard. But more hereof in my 3. reply. In meane while, consider whether this 2. shape be more particularly for the present businesse, so as to con­clude the question, than the for­mer; and Note, that in both theis shapes, onely Lightnes, and indiffe­rency of matters putt to Lottery are pressed as causes most iustifying a Lot, yea so, as that in the confir­mation of his former shaped argu­ments proposition, he positively affirmeth that we shall finde a Lott not fitt to be vsed in a weighty af­faire▪ [Page 54] If so, then Weightnesse, and Necessity of matters controverted make Lottery lesse lawfull, if not altogether vnlawfull. But thereof also more in that reply. I there­fore proceed to his 3. reason pag. 131. Which is this.

M. G. 3. If the vse of Lotts in game be of it selfe evill, then must it needs be a sinne either against Piety in the first table, or ag: Charity in the 2. But the vse of Lottes in game, is not of it selfe, a sinne against either Piety, or Charity. Therefore it must be iusti­fied as agreeable to Gods Word. The Assumption is prooved thus▪ No man avoweth the vse of a Lot in game, (as it is a Lott) to be a­gainst Charity: and A Lusorious Lot is not the prophaning of any thing hallowed, by any divine institution from the Word, to an holy Vse. Therefore not against Piety. In­deed, if Lottes be holy, they may [Page 55] in no case be made matter of sport.

I. B. 3. Here I observe one of the faults which I found in the latter shape of the 2. reason to witt▪ The con­clusion conteineth more than the premisses. For the Conclusion saith A Lot in game is agreeable to Gods Word, and then it must be [Good of it selfe,] which is more, than [Not evill of it selfe.] For that is good of it selfe, for doing whereof there is either praecept, or permission in Gods word, pag. 137. But to the Assumption, an d proofe thereof I answere, That the vse of a Lott in game is, (of it selfe), a sinne against Piety. For it profaneth a Lot hal­lowed by divine institution from the Word, as shall be manifested hereafter. Yet here I thinke fitt breifely to shew 2. things. One is, 1. That an Oath is hallowed to mak [...] an holy vse of the testifying presence [Page 56] of God, So a Lot is hallowed to make an holy vse of the determining presence of God. If Mr. Gataker deny a Lott to be holy, except it have a more remote holy vse, I say He may as well deny an Oath to be holy for that cause. More of2. this point in my 2. reply. The other is, That vse of a Lott is against Piety, which is (I say not, [Not forbidden] but) [Not warranted] by the Word. For it is without faith, therefore aRom. 14 23. sinne, yea Impiety. So disputeth Mr. Gataker against a Divinatory Lott, pag. 313. and so doe I against a Lusorions Lot. If then a lawfull Lott be holy, it is (saith Mr. Gataker) in no case to be made matter of sport. Nay, I may make yet more advantage. For I may say; That maintaining the vse thereof in ga­ming, as it is a Lott, by practise, much more by writing, is against Charity, as well as against Piety. For [Page 57] so [a weake brother is offended, and con­ [...]equently Christ sinned against] that brother being occasioned, by er­rour of iudgment, to stumble. I have this reasoning from Mr. Gata­ker himselfe, pag. 255. Now then with some comfort I proceed to the 4. argument, as Mr. Gataker cal­leth it, pag. 134.

M. G. 4. By vertue of Christian liberty, every Christian man hath a free vse of all Gods good creatures, to im­ploy them vnto such purposes, as by any naturall power, they are inabled vnto: But in lusorious Lottes the Creature is vsed to no other ende or vse, but what it hath a naturall power vnto, and such as by the mutuall consent, and agree­ment of those that vse it, it may be enabled to effect. Therefore it's no more to be exiled from a Chris­tian man's recratiō, than any other creature whatsoever, that hath any [Page 58] power to delight.

I. B. 4. So generall & eager is the pur­suite after Liberty in this licen­tious age, that a godly, and charita­ble Christian, (much more being a minister), ought to take great heede, that he occasion not any1. Pet. 2. 16. much lesse too too many, to make Liberty a cloake of Naughtinesse▪ But Mr. Gataker speaketh of Chris­tian liberty, not of Licentiousnesse▪ Then let vs consider what he saith▪ For both the premisses of this ar­gument are flatly to be denied▪ For sundry good Creatures have a naturall power to impoison; But Christian Liberty giveth vs not free vse thereof to impoison a [...] pleasure. Neither is it true that any creature hath a naturall power to be a Lott, no more than a stone hath a naturall power to be carried vpward. For as a stone is carried vpward by a power; that is without [Page 59] it: so all creatures are mooved, & applied to be Lotts by a power without them. God keepe me from teaching that Christian Li­berty warranteth the vnlawfull vse of any Creature, what naturall power soever it hath to that vse. If any creature have any power to be a Lot, yet that power is not to be vsed vnto Lottery, but in cases (whereof gameing is none) where­in God alloweth such vse thereof. To the inforcing of the conclusion by a supposed confirmation of the Assumption, I say, It is a beg­ging of the question. For though a dog having a naturall power to hunt, be not exiled from recreatiō yet ought a Lot-creature to be, for reasons given, and to be given, or rather defended hereafter. Now then to a 5. argument A concessis, (as Mr. Gataker tearmeth it,) pag. 135.

[Page 60] M. G. S. Any thing in different is lawfull matter of recreation: But Lottery is a thing indiffertnt; Lottery the­refore may be made lawfull matter of disport. The Proposition is con­firmed by the wordes of M. Fennor. Christian (saith he) recreation is the exercise of some thing indifferent for the necessary refreshing of body, or minde. The Assumption is also proved by Mr. Fennor. Indifferent in nature is that, which is left free, so as we are not simply commaunded, or for­bidden to vse it: But such is Lot­tery (saith Mr. Gataker) Not sim­ply commaunded. For Prov. 18. 18. is rather a permission than a praecept, or, Not so much a Commaundement as an advise commending that as a prudent course; Nor any where forbidden as evill in it selfe.

I. B. S. Mr. Fennor's booke, from whence theis allegations be drawne, and from whence I learned that [Page 61] Lottes may not be vsed in sport, doth proove that lusorious Lottes are forbidden, and therefore not indifferent. What helpe then hath Mr. Gataker from Mr. Fenners grauntes? and his owne proofes helpe him as little. For it is graun­ted, that if Lottery be either commaunded, or forbidden, it is not indifferent, to passe by the former, onely observing that Mr, Gataker doth not absolutely deny it to be commaunded, Prov. 18. 18. I come to the other. I might here referre the Reader to my Dialogue, and to my Re­ply, by which it will appeare evi­dently, that a Lusorious Lott is forbidden, and therefore not in­different. But to speake a little more (generally) of things not in­different, because forbidden, I say, That is forbidden as well which is forbidd [...] ̄ by iust cōsequence, as that [Page 62] which is expresly forbidden: As that is permitted as well which is per­mitted by iust consequence as that which is expressely permitted. Mr. Gataker affirmeth, the latter, pa▪ 137. and will not (I dare fay) deny the former. Againe, The Word of God is so perfect, that whatsoe­ver it neither commaundeth, nor permitteth expressely, or by iust consequence, that is verily forbid­den. For all things especially such as have relation to God, ought to have some warrant from the word. If Mr. Gataker putt me to proove this, I dare vndertake to proove it demonstratively. But I presume he will not. For, in the last men­tioned page, he describeth that to be indifferent, which is (at least) per­mitted by the Word. If a thing be not so much as permitted, it can­not be lawfull, and therefore not in̄different. Here I wish he would [Page 63] remember what he writeth pag. 95. Speaking of this word [Indifferent,] [...]s it is opposed to good, or evill, & [...]he wing how some say, that to be [...]ndifferent which is neither good, [...]or evill, he determineth the point [...]hus. Neverthelesse most true it is, That [...]o particular morall action, or No action [...]f the reasonable Creature proceeding [...]rom reason, can possibly be so indifferent, [...]ut it must of necessity be either confor­ [...]able to the rules of Gods holy Word, or [...]isconformable therevnto. So that I [...]onder, why Mr. G. should say [...]ere, Lottery in game is not any [...]here forbidden as evill in it selfe. [...]s it not evill, if forbidden, except [...] be otherwise evill of it selfe? [...]hat is good of it selfe which is [...]ither commaunded, or permitted, [...]ag, 137. Therefore that is evill of [...] selfe which is forbidden. It grei­ [...]eth my soule to see what a wide [...]ore to lusorious Lottery this [Page 64] doctrine will make. For now Lot­mongers will choppe Logicke, and say, What if a lusorious Lotte be forbidden by iust consequence, ye [...] they are not forbidden as evill in themselves, and therefore they are indifferent. Now to come to Mr. Gatakers last reason, which, like an Oratour, he amplifieth to leave a deepe impression behinde. Bu [...] let it be well considered, as in i [...] selfe, so whether it proove that th [...] vse of Lottes in game is not agaia [...] Gods worde, but hath sufficient warrant from it, as he pretendeth in his introduction, pag. 136. It is this.

M. G. 6. Where the Wisdome of God, hath not determined the subiect matter, the manner, and other Cir­cumstances of a thing lawfull in it selfe, there all such are lawfull, a [...] the Word doth not forbid, and a [...] no Circumstance that a man shall [Page 65] make choice of, shall be against the generall rules of the word concer­ning the same: But a Lott is a thing lawfull in it selfe, and the subiect­matter, manner, & other Circum­stances thereof are not determined by Gods Word, nor against the ge­nerall rules. Therefore a Lott in game is not prohibited, nor is a­gainst the generall rules of Gods Word otherwise. The Proposition he confirmeth. First, touching a thing lawfull in it selfe, by shewing1. that act to be lawfull in it selfe, which in Gods word, is either com­maunded, or permitted expresse­ly, or by iust consequence. Secondly, touching the manner &c. by proo­ving2. the rest of the Proposition; which he indeavoureth to perfor­me. (1.) By the Authority of Calvin. (2.) By Luke: 9. 50. (3.) By a glosse (4.) By shewing that the circumstance of time for free will [Page 66] offerings being not determined, they might have beene offered at at any time, and Sacrifices might have beene in any place before a certaine place was determined3. Thirdly, touching both the doing o [...] every act, & the doing of it in this or that manner, by shewing that i [...] naturall reason will not, of it selfe affoard sufficient direction, the [...] must warrant be had out of God [...] Rom. 14. 23. Word, because, Whatsoever is not o Faith is sinne. Which Word is give [...] vs in morall matters to supply th [...] defect of it caused by our first pa­rents their fall. Neither doth th [...] Word abridge vs of the helpe, an [...] vse of naturall reason for directio [...] in such actions. The Assumptio [...] is thus prooved. Recreation, i [...] generall, is warranted from th [...] Word as permitted, and inioined▪ if not expressely, yet by iust conse­quence. For the matter or man­ner, [Page 67] or the thinges wherewith we may recreate our selves, there is nothing determined. Therefore any meanes that are not against the generall rules Of comelines, and decency, Rom. 13. 13. 1. Cor. 14. 40. Of conveniency, and expediency, 1. Cor. 6. 12. and 10. 23. Rom. 14. 21. Of Religion, and Piety, 1. Cor. 10. 31. Colos. 3. 17. and the like, are by the Word of God allowed.

I. B. [...]. I might, as did Alexander, loose Gordian's knott with one choppe, and say, The vse of Lottes in game is forbidden in the Word, referring my selfe to what I have, and shall write. But for better satisfaction, I will answere more particularly, not doubting, but that the Prover­be may (now) proove true, viz: In many wordes there cannot want iniqui­ty. Pro. 10. 19. First, I observe fearefull shifting,1. and then vnsound arguing. The former thus appeareth, He suppo­seth [Page 68] the thing must be lawfull in it selfe, and disputeth onely about the subiect-matter, &c. Againe, In the introduction he saith. Th'vse of Lottes in game is not against God's Word, but hath sufficient warrant from it, which may imply this position. [That is against the Word, which hath not sufficient warrant from it.] But in the Pro­position of the maine argument his ground is; [Such things are law­full, which the Word doth not for­bid.] Fower of his confirmations, and his Assumption are to that effect, or rather defect, and his conclusion is answereable: Is not this a fearefull shifting course of reasoning? Now let vs consider his vnsound ar­guing. Touching the Proposition of his maine argument, I mervaile why Mr. Gataker avouching such subiect-matter &c. to be lawfull as are not forbidden, limiteth this [Page 69] assertion with theis wordes (Of a thing lawfull in it selfe) As if such a thing may warrant our retchles­nesse in, and about the subiect-mat­ter &c. As if God doth not, accor­ding to the olde saying, [Loue Ad­verbes] An Oath is a thing lawfull in it selfe; Are not we therefore to make conscience, that the subiect-matter, &c. be agreable to the Word of God? But I mervaile much more at this gronnd. [Such things are lawfull, as the Word doth not forbid.] I set it downe thus, becau­se the confirmations tend to make this good, and so conclude. All things not prohibited are permit­ted, and therefore the subiect-matter, &c. of a thing lawfull in it selfe. I mervaile (I say) the more because Mr. Gataker confirmeth a thing or act it selfe to be lawfull in it selfe, if it be in the Word, either commaunded, or permitted ex­pressely, [Page 70] or by iust consequence. Which I acknowledge to be so cleare a truth, that (me think's) Mr. Gataker cannot, but, in propor­tion of reason, if he beleive the Word to be perfect vnto everyPsal. 19. [...]. 2. Tim. 3. 15. 16. 17. good worke, holde All thinges to be vnlawfull, which are not lawfull one of theis two wayes, and the ra­ther because he peremptorily af­firmeth, pag. 95. All particular morall actions, be they never so iūdifferent, to be either conforma­ble, or disconformable to Gods Word, and, by particular actions, he meaneth actions clothed with circumstances, pag. 94. O that Mr. Gataker would holde to this doctri­ne!Iohn. 3. 21. Then should he thereby pro­voke all, who make consciences of their wayes, and doe truth (that is▪ doe good workes sincerily) to come to the light, that their deedes might be made manifest, that they are wrought ac­cording [Page 71] to God. On the contrary; If he bring not disciples to the Law, and Is a. 8. 20. Testimony, by doctrine according to the Word, but writhe from it, by teaching that to be lawfull which is not forbidden, as therein his light faileth, so there by he shall make men carelesse to seeke for their warrant, and wilfull to seeke af­ter their owne heart, and eyes after which Num. 25 39. they goe a whoring. Well, let vs exa­mine his confirmations. First, Mr. Calvins 1. testimony in English is this. [When the Scripture delivereth generall rules of a lawfull vse, the vse is to be limi­ted according to them.] From hence Mr. Gataker concludeth that a man hath a sufficient warrant for any circumstance he shall make choise of, that is not against those rules. Mr. Calvin speaketh of an Vse, and of an Vse doe we dispute, Mr. Gata­ker concludeth a Circumstance: Mr. Calvin saith, According, Mr. Gata­ker [Page 72] concludeth, Not against. Is [...]. this sound arguing? Is the 2. con­firmation from Luke: 9. 50. much better? The wordes set downe by Mr. Gataker be theis. [He that is not against me, is with me.] This place (forsooth) is a rule holding in the subiect-matter, &c. neither determined, nor forbidden. As theis wordes, [He that is not with me, is against me, Math. 12. 30.] is a rule in the subiect-matter, &c. deter­mined. Both a like in conceipt. And why may not M. Gatakers? con­ceipt be the same touching thin­ges, or actions? But let vs see, whe­ther the conceipt be not a be-mis­ted Phantasy. In the former place Christ his wordes are occasioned [...]y his Disciples their forbidding one who cast out Divels in Christ his name. Forbid him not (said Christ) for, He, that is not against me, is with me. In the latter place [Page 73] Christ spake those wordes vpon occasion of the Pharises their oppo­sition. So that consider the two sentences with their occasions to­gither, this, indeed, is the summe. All men are either with, or against Christ. For there be no Neutralles. So that those two sentences are like theis. He that is not a goate, is a sheepe, and He that is not a sheepe is a goate. But Mr. Gataker's argument is this. All men who are not against Christ, are with him. Therefore Circumstances not de­termined, nor forbidden, are law­full. Is this sound arguing? The third confirmation is from a Glosse.3. Here I remember an olde saying [A cursed glosse corrupt's the Text.] Now lett vs see whether Mr. Gata­ker have any blessing by this glosse, the wordes whereof in English, be theis. [All things are permitted by Law, which are not found prohibited.] Note, [Page 74] that it speake's of things. There­fore it make's as well for actions, as for circumstances▪ Is this Divi­nity? But what Law? If the Civill Law, what is that to the point? Ex­cept Mr. Gataker can proove, the Civill Law to be a perfect rule to vs; and whatsoever it permitteth is allowed of God. Howsoever, (I say) this course of fetching proo­fes from any other Law, than God's Law, is fitter for a Papist, who hol­deth Vnwritten verities (so called) to be a supplement to the Scriptu­res, thereby to authorize traditions of men, than for one, that fearethDeut. 10 12. God to walke in his wayes. Is then this glossing sound arguing? Hath4. the fourth confirmation more vali­dity in it than the rest? The for­mer 3. proofes speake not directly of Circmmstances according to the proposition, (so doth Mr. Ga­taker dispute Adidem) here he doth▪ [Page 75] here then Iinquire, If the Circum­stances of Time, and Place be at the pleasure of him that v [...]eth a thing lawfull in it selfe, doth it fol­low therevpon, that the subiect-matter, and manner be so too? If God allow any thing to be done, of necessity there must be a time, and place, when and where it may be done, Even when, and where there is iust occasion of the Act▪ It is to be obscrved, that, as here, so, in the Proposition it selfe Mr. Gataker slideth from the sub­iect-matter, and manner, to cir­cumstances onely. Is not this fainting? Let vs now proceed to that, which Mr. Gataker wri­teth, touching both the doing of every act, and the doing of it in this, and that manner. Neither of which needeth warrant from the Word if naturall reason, of it selfe, afford sufficient directiō ▪ Good Lord! [Page 76] What fearefull shifting from the Word is here? But why doth he ioyne the doing it selfe of an Act. with the manner thereof? I'le tell you, even to make a way to his As­sumption. For, if he sticke close to that which he teacheth in ime­diate wordes, to witt, that an act it selse is lawfull in it selfe, if, in the Word, it be, either commaunded; or permitted expressely, or by iust consequence, he foreseeth, that it will be answered to the fore-part of his assumption, that every Lott is not lawfull in it selfe. Therefore he would trouble the Reader's head with a supposed direction therein of naturall reason, and that sufficient, (I say) Supposed; For he sheweth no direction therein of naturall reason either sufficient, or insufficient. But let vs with feare, and trembling, consider Mr. Gataker his most straunge position [Page 77] to witt, [Neither the doing of any act, nor the manner of doing needeth warrant from the Word, if naturall Reason of it selfe, affoard sufficient direction.] Let vs consider it (I say) together with his reason. For (saith he) the Word is given vs in morall matters, to supply the defect of naturall rea­son caused by our first parents their fall. Is it our best way then to seeke sufficient direction, in morall matters, from naturall rea­son, before wc consult with God in his Word? For the said direction is the 2. time vrged thus. I say where natnrall reason doth not, of it selfe, afford sufficient direction, and neede not a man know, that he hath warrant srom God's Word if, in his perswasion, he have suffi­cient direction from naturall Rea­son? Doth the Max [...]me of Gods Spirit quoted here, by Mr. Gataker Rom. 14 23. to witt, [What is not of Faith is sinne] [Page 78] intimate. That whatsoever is done by sufficient direction from natu­rall reason, is of Faith? Became naturall reason onely defective, and not corrupted also by ourRom. 8. 7. first Parents their fall? O God have mercy vpon vs! For I see that the Wisedome of the Flesh is En­mity against thee; For it is not fub­iect to thy Law, neither, indeed, can be. But why doe I vexe my soule with this fearefull doctrine, seeing Mr. Gatakers heart fainteth in the prosecution thereof? For, at last, he cometh to say. Neither doth the Word abridge vs of the helpe, and vse of naturall reason for direction in such actions. Here is some more authority (to witt, Of not abridging vs of the helpe, &c.) given to the Word. For it doth imply, that the Word might abridge vs, &c. Therefore ou [...] most warrantable way is to be well [Page 79] informed, when, and how farre, the Word doth give vs leave to vse the direction of naturall reason in mo­rall matters. If this be so, then the former strange doctrine is contra­dicted, and I neede not make any answer to the scriptures quoted in the margent. So then I pro­ceed to the Assumption of the maine argument. In the former part whereof, it is to be denied (as was saide before) that every Lot is a thing lawfull in it selfe. For as a Divinatory, by him, cap. 11. so a Lu­sorious Lott by me, and others, is de­nied to be a thing lawfull in it selfe. More clearily to answer the other part. It is to be observed, that, in this large, argument it cannot be gathered w [...]ath M. G. meaneth by Subiect-matter. So the minde of the Reader may be troubled with wordes, which ought not to be. ButActs. 15 24. by that which he writeth, pag. 230. I [Page 80] vnderstand he meaneth the Matter whereabout the Lottery is im­ployed. If so, I affirme that the fubiect matter of a Lott is deter­mined by God, namely, A Contro­versy to be ended thereby; and therefore I also affirme lusorius buisinesse (to vse Mr. Gataker owne word pag. 130.) to be a subiect-matter of a Lott, no lesse against the generall rules of the Word, than was the finding out of Ionas, in Mr. Gatakers iudgment, pag. 278. If then a Lusorious Lott be not a thing lawfull in it selfe, & If Luso­rious buisinesse be a subiect-mat­ter of a Lott, that is against the ge­nerall rules, then how can the man­ner, and other circumstances, though neither determined, nor forbidden, be sufficient warrant for the vse of a Lusorious Lott? Now then, Let vs try the force of the Assumption's confirmation. It [Page 81] is true that Recreation in generall, indefinitely vnderstood, is warran­ted by God's Word. But I beleive Mr. Gataker will not affirme all re­creations taken vp by men, to be so warranted. Yes (saith Mr. Gata­ker) we may recreate our selves with any thing, that is not against the generales rules, because, tou­ching things, wherewith we may recreate, there is nothing deter­mined.

Of this evasion [Not against] I neede not speake at this instant. But touching things not deter­mined, so much inculcated, I aske whether things must be determined particularly, or by name; or else, if not so for­bidden, they are lawfull. If so, why doth Mr. Gataker (spea­king of divers particulars,) as of a key, and a booke, of a paire of sheares, and a [...]ive, and such like [Page 82] so earnestly aske, Are they any where found revealed in the Word of God? Where he is of another minde, than here, arguing thus. Not found there commaunded, or permitted; therefore vnlawfull. If it be said, Not so found there, to finde out a theife. I then say; Nei­ther are Lottes so found there for Recreation. But if by Not determi­ned be meant, Thinges wherewith we recreare are not determined in the Word either expressly, or by iust consequence, then, whosoever saith so, if he be wise, will adde [So farre as I doe remember, and know.] For who can remember all the senten­ces of holy Scriptures, and know all iust consequences, that may be made from them? If he thus adde then his Negation is of no validity, but he himselfe is too bolde in de­nying, vpon presumption, that ano­ther remembreth, and knoweth no [Page 83] more than he. At last let vs reli­giously consider the generall rules so often spoken of, and we shall finde, that Mr. Gataker should have done well not to have pleased Li­bertines by pleading Not against, but to have given the Word due ho­nour by saying with Mr. Calvin. [The vse of things is to be limited according to the generall rules.] For theis rules require Decency, Ex­pediency, and Piety, and therefore they are not obeyed by the vse of things not vndecent, not inexpedient, and not impious. For it is to be no­ted that in 1. Cor. 6. 12. and 12. 23. Paul saith not, all things are lawfull, but some things are inexpedient, but in both places thus. [All things are lawfull, but all are not expedient.] Let vs consider theis rules yet so­mewhat more nearely to the point. Touching the first. The wordes of the Apostle, 1. Cor. 14. 40. be theis. [Page 84] [Let all things be done honestly, and by order] In which is no intimation, that all things are in themselves lawfull to be done, which are done honestly, & by order, but a charge that all things, be they in themselves ne­ver so lawfull, be done honestly, & by order. Those drinke offerings to Bacchus, commonly called Healthes (per Antiphrasin,) are solemnized so­metimes with standing, sometimes with kneeling, alwayes with put­ting of hatts, and some speech more or lesse, are they accepta­ble to God, because they are thus orderly carried? If not, Then be Lotts, and the vsers of them in gaming never so orderly disposed, yet are they not therefore iusti­fied.2. Touching the second rule. It is true, That all things must be ex­pedient, that is, edify, 1. Cor. 10. 23. Therefore they sinne who stum­ble, or offend a brother, that is, oc­casion [Page 85] him to fall or be made wea­ke, Rom. 14. 13. 21. But Lu [...]orious Lotts occasion thousands to fall into sinne, & to be weake in goodnesse. Therefore they doe not edifie, and therefore are not expedient. Con­cerning the 3. rule. Let all things to be 3▪ done to Gods glory, 1. Cor. 10. 31. Is this to Gods glory, to vse his name in any other case than wherein God is well pleased his name should be v­sed, & thē to take that name in vai­ne? Is tempting of God any glory to God? But playing with a Lottis to vse God's name in an other case, than wherein God is well pleased his Name should be vsed, and then also to take that Name in vaine, & it is a greivous tempting of God as shall be prooved. Therefore play­ing with a Lots is not to God's glo­ry, & by consequence not agreable to Religion, and Piety. Though it be sufficiently prooved that Lusori­ous [Page 86] Lotts are directly aga in [...]t tw [...] of the generall Rules, and not war­ranted by the third, so that Mr. Ga­taker hath not bete red his cause by appealing to them, yet it is to be observed, that all the rules re­quire, Things, and Actions to be ac­cording to them, But Mr. Gataker by onely speaking of them, would iustify circumstances, and meanes of playing with Lotts if (forsooth) they be not against them. Thus having evidently shewed Reasons inducing (not drawing) Mr. Ga­taker to allow Lusorious Lotts to be both fearefull, as theis evasive speeches. [Not evill in themselves.] [Not prohibited.] [Not determined.] &, [Not against the generall rules,] doe import, & otherwise vnsound, I wil now (with God's helpe I hope) re­ply vpon M. G. answers to mine ar­guments against playing with Lots, conteined in my Dialogue.

A Reply to M. Gataker's answers to arguments conteined in a Dialogue against the vn­lawfulnes of games consisting in chaunce.

Dialog. WHatsoever di­rectly, or of it sel­fe, or in a speciallMal. 6. 7 Exo. 20. 7. Isa. 29. 13. Ier. 4. 2. Prov. 16 33. manner tendeth to the advauncing of God's Name is to be vsed religiously, & not to be v­sed in sporte, as we may not pray, or sweare in sporte: But the vse of Lotts directly, or of it selfe, and in speciall manner tendeth to the ad­vauncing of the name of God in attributing to his speciall Provi­dence [Page 88] in the whole, and immediateActs. 1. 14. 26. disposing of the Lot, & expecting the event. Therefore the vse of Lotts is not to be in sport.

Aunsw. pa. 149. The Assumption is not true, if it be understood vniversally. The proofe annexed I deny; Neither doe the places produced proove it. The former of them, concer­ning ordinary Lotts, or Lotts in generall, was answered sufficiently before. The latter is an example of an extraordinary Lott, wherein was (indeed) an immediate, and speciall Providence. But extraor­dinary examples make no generall rules Neither is it a good course of arguing to reason from the spe­ciall, or a singular, to the generall, and vniversall: Much lesse from one extraordinary act or event, to all ordinary courses of the same kinde. Herein is the difference betweene the one, and the other [Page 89] That the one could not but fall certainly, were it never so often cast, whereas the other, cast often in the same case, would not certai­nely fall out still the same.

The assumption vnderstood v­niversallyReply 1. is true, and the places quoted make good the proofe thereof, as shall be made manifest. First therefore let vs consider the1. supposed distinction betweene or­dinary, and extraordinary Lottes Mr. Gataker speaketh of a distinc­tion, but sheweth not wherein, (touching the Lottes themsel­ves,) it doth consist. Indeed, tou­ching themselves, (as they be Lottes,) there is no difference; For in an ordinary, as well as in an ex­traordinary Lott, the things are by man, of purpose intentionally disposed vnto a variable event, & they are wholy disposed by God vnto this, or vnto that event, [Page 90] which the vser of a Lott expecteth. If so, then it followeth, That the vse of all Lottes, (as they be Lottes) whether ordinary, or extraordina­ry, directly, or of it selfe, & in spe­ciall ma [...]ner, tendeth to the ad­vauncing of the Name of God. How? The vse of Lottes attribu­teth to Gods speciall Providence In the whole, and immediate dis­posing of the Lott, & In expecting the event- Doth this scarce carry good sence? Is there then no diffe­rence betweene an ordinary, and extraordinary Lott? The onely difference is the subiect-matter whe­reabout the Lott is imployed. The subiect-matter of an ordinary Lott, is, by God's allowance, A Controversy to be ended: The subiect-matter of an extraordinary Lott is any other matter, where­about a Lott is imployed by God's speciall direction; otherwise it is [Page 91] vnlawfull, as be lusorious, and Divi­natory Lotts. In regard of which difference onely, Mr. Gatakers Lo­gique holdeth good, as thus. From the vse of a Lott about an other matter than ending a Controversy and that by God's speciall direc­tion, it followeth not, that it is law­full to vse a Lott about any other matter, than ending a Controver­sy, as gaming, without God's spe­ciall direction. But Mr. Gataker maketh an other difference to witt, An immediate, and speciall Provi­dence in an extraordinary Lott, which is not in an ordinary Lott. He doth so; and therefore in his Logique, he cunningly ioyneth a supposed extraordinary Event to a supposed extraordinary Act, & declineth the proofe of an extra­ordinary act, which rather he should have done, because mine argument standeth vpon the Vse [Page 92] of Lottes. Neither doth he found­ly proove an immediate, and spe­ciall Providence, or extraordinary event, to be in an extraordinary, and not in an ordinary Lott. For, as it is a tempting of God to cast an extraordinary Lott the first time without God's speciall di­rection, pag. 313. so it is a temp­ting, yea, a greater tempting of God, when he hath given his iudg­mentalready by the event of the Lott, to cast the Lott againe with­out his speciall direction. How then can Mr. Gataker so confidently affirme, that an extraordinary Lot could not but fall certainly, were it never so oft cast? Indeed, The certaine event of an extraordina­ry Lot may, in faith, be expected, because of Gods speciall direction. And why not so in an ordinary Lott? Seeing God adviseth vs, pag. [...]35. to vse Lottes for the ending [Page 93] of controversies. Prov. 18. 18. and assureth vs that the whole dispo­sing of them is of him, Prov. 16. 33. But Mr. Gataker hath answered this place before. Let vs then consi­der what he hath answered. Before he saith, pag. 144. Good Authours expound this place of singular, ex­traordinary, and miraculous Lot­tes onely. But (saith he) the wor­des seeme to be more generall, and are, word for word, thus in the Originall, [The Lord is cast into the Lappe, but every iudgment, or disposing of it, is of God.] Doth not confu­ting them, who holde onely extraordinary Lottes to be meant in this place, and transla­ting the Text [Every iudgment] and expounding it, [Or disposing of it,] shew plainely that this place prooveth mine Assumption to be vniversally true? So that I much mervaile that he denieth [Page 94] this place to prooue mine Assump­tion, because it concerneth Lottes in generall. For if it doe so, then it prooveth that ordinary, as well as extraordinary Lottes tend to the advauncing of the Name of God. Againe pag. 145. Mr. Gataker taking the wordes, as they are v­sually read in the Genevatranslation, and the King's edition, to witt, [The Lott is cast into the lappe, but the whole disposition, or disposing thereof is of the Lord,] graunteth that the whole event is of God. A graunt though true, yet turning the reader aside from seeing the whole truth. For the Text is, [The whole disposing of the Lott cast into the lappe.] If then the Lot cast into the lap, that is, of purpos [...] disposed by man vnto a variable e­vent, be wholy disposed by God, so, as the event be that, which plea­seth him, then God doth not media­tely dispose the Lot to this, or that [Page 95] event, if not mediately, then imme­mediately, because the whole dispo­sing is of him. Doth not then this place make good mine Assump­tion? But for all this Mr. Gataker will not have it so; For as he transla­teth this place, he saith It impor­teth thus much, [That there is a Providence in all things, even the least, and most casuall] and this he would confirme by theis my wor­des, viz: [The disposingꝭ of the chaunce is secret, that it might be chaunce indeed, & wholy of God, who directed all things.] Doe theis wordes iustifie Mr. Gatakers inter­pretation of this place? Yes; For they say plainely, God directed all things, and, they say withall; The disposing of the chaunce (that is of the things purposedly disposed by a man vnto a variable event) vnto a certaine event, is secret, that it may be chaunce indeed, that [Page 96] is, an event not by the will of man, but wholy of God. So that my wordes imply this argument. God directeth all things, Therefore much more, in our discerning, a Lot, the whole disposing whereof is of him. This is farre from saying that this place importeth onely, That there is a Providence in all things. Neither doth Mr. Gatakers translation inferre this imported interpretation. For this discre­tion. [But] doth so oppose every iudgment, or disposing of it (as he expoundeth Iudgment) to a Lot cast into the lappe, as that Every disposing, is all one with The whole disposing. This place so troubleth Mr. Gataker that from it he would have no more gathered, than that the who­le event (as of all things, so) of a Lot, is of the Lord. Yet so, as wor­king by meanes in the most of them, and not implying and imme­diate [Page 97] Providence vniversally in them. I neede not examine the meanes, or immediate Providence of all the instances quoted in the margent For here it is impliedly graunted (for he faith not All, but the most of them) that in some things God worketh not by mea­nes, and that there is an immedia­te Providence Particularly, for he denieth such a Providence onely, as being universally. Howsoever it be in other things, I thinke it is ma­nifest to all, that will see, that God, without meanes, and therefore immediately, doth wholy dispose the Lot cast into the lappe vnto this, or that event, what pleaseth him, whereas man disposeth the things onely vnto a variable event. As at cardes, man shuffleth them of purpose to dispose them vnto a variable event: But, by the imme­diate Providence of God, they are [Page 98] so shuffled, as that this, or that event followeth. Therefore (with Mr. Gataker favour) any reasonable man may iudge it not senselesse to say (which he doubteth of pa. 147.) that in childrens playes, at Even, and Odde, or at Heades, & Points, there is an immediate Providence, In in­clining the will of the childe, and guiding his coniecture. Thus we see this place doth confirme mine assumption, and the proofe annex­ed, Mr. Gatakers interpretation not­withstanding. But he giveth 2. rea­sons against an immediate provi­dence in ordinary Lottes, which1. are also to be considered. The for­mer is this. That which agreeth to a thing, as it is such, agreeth ne­cessarily to ȧll things, that are such. Therefore if there be an imme­diate Providence in a Lot, as it is casuall, then there is an immediate providence in all thinges, that are [Page 99] casuall: But the latter is not true; ergo not the former, pag. 143. Why not the latter? if the is Positions be true. That which seemes Chaunce to us, is a certaine Word of God (saith Bernard, But Mr. Gatak. trans­latethSermo quidam it, Is as a word of God) ac­quainting vs with his Will, pag. 17. and In casuall events there is no­thing guiding them, but God's Pro­vidence, pag. 22. But suppose that there is not an immediate Provi­dence in all things, that be casuall, what is that to the purpose? For all things casuall are not such, with a Lott, wherein things are of purpo­se disposed by man vnto an vncer­taine event, which things, so dis­posed by man, are wholy disposed by God vnto a certaine event, this or that; so it is not in all other things, that be casuall. Therefore all other casuall things, and Lotts are not such▪ Neither is it said an [Page 100] immediate Providence is in a Lot, as it is casuall, but as the Lot being made casuall is wholy disposed by God to this, or that event. So that from Mr▪ Gatakers axiome this argu­ment may be framed. An imme­diate Providence, in an extraordi­nary Lot, is acknowledged by Mr. Gataker as it is a Lot (say I) wholy disposed by God; Therefore an immediate Providence is in an or­dinary Lot (as it is a Lot) wholy dis­posed by God. For there is no difference betweene theis sorts of Lotts, (as they be Lotts) and so dis­posed. For Mr. Gataker hath she­wed that Prov. 16. 33. speaketh as well of one sort of Lotts, as of ano­ther. The other argument is this▪ which is the kill-kow. If in every Lott there be necessarily an imme­diate worke, and Providence of God, then is it in the naturall of man to make God worke imme­diately [Page 101] at his pleasure: But to say, that it is in man's power naturally to sett God on working, immedia­tely, at his pleasure, is absurd. There is not therefore an imme­diate worke, and Providence of God necessarily in every Lott. Mr. Gataker like an Oratour, seemeth desirous to draw his adversary into hatred by thei wordes [Necessarily, Naturall power, Sett God on wor­king, At pleasure, To say, and Ab­surd] Verba dum sint, surdo canit. But hoping better, I aunswering his Logique, deny the Assumption. For it is as much in man's naturall power to set God on worke imme­diately, in an ordinary, as in an ex­traordinary Lot. For both God, and man doe respectively as much in the one Lott, as in the other. But an extraordinary Lot is by the speciall direction of God: True; So is an ordinary Lott by God's [Page 102] speciall advise to ende a contro­versy. If then every Lot be a set­ting of our glorious God on wor­ke, there ought to be prayer, if not by wordes; yet in heart in the vse as well of ordinary, as extraordina­ry Lotts. If so, then Lotts are not to be vsed in sport. Here then will I proceed to the defence of my second argument, which is this, pag. 150.

Dialog. We are not to tempt the Al­mightyPsal. 78. 18. [...]9. Isa. 7. 12 Math. 4. 6. 7. by a vaine desire of mani­festing his power, and speciall Providence: But by vsing Lotts in sport we tempt the Almighty, vai­nely desiring the manifestation of his speciall Providence in his immediate disposing; Therefore we may not vse Lotts in sport▪ The Assumption (saith Mr. Gata­ker) they seeme to proove on this wise. To call God to sitt in iudgment, where there is no [Page 103] necessity so to doe, for the deter­mining of trifles, is to tempt, nay to mocke God: But by the vse of Lotts in sport, God is called to sitt in iudgment, whe­re is no necessity, for the deter­mining of trifles. By the vse of Lotts in sport therefore, we doe tempt, and dishonour God. This argument Mr. Gataker hath from Dan [...]eus that learned man of reverend memory. To proo­ve the Assumption whereof, he alleadgeth theis wordes out of my Dialogue. A Lot in the na­ture thereof doth as necessari­ly suppose the Providence, and determining presence of God, as an Oath, in the nature there­of, doth suppose the testifying presence of God, yea so, that, as in an Oath, so in a Lot, prayer is expressed, or to be vn­derstood.

[Page 104] Aunsw. The Assumption of the maine Argument is not true, but onely in extraordinary Lottes, vsed not with out speciall direction. Yea rather, if a Lot be such as is here said, it is not lawful to vse Lottes in any case whatsoever. Because thereby we require a worke of God's im­mediate Power, and Providence, and so tempt God. And to speake as the truth is. By this course, and force of this discourse, the onely lawfull vse of a Lot is condemned, & an vnlawfull vse of it is allowed in the roome of it. Againe: An Oath, and a Lot are not alike. The comparison therefore laide be­tweene them will not holde. For neither is the right of ought in an ordinary Lot, put to the speciall providence, and imediate worke of God, as the truth of the thing testified is in an Oath, put to his Testimony: Neither is there in [Page 105] every Lot any such solemne invo­cation of God, as there is in an Oath ever, either expressed, or im­plied. For the definition of each thing conteineth the whole nature of the thing defined. Now a Lot may be defined without mention of Prayer, as appeareth in the de­finition thereof in the Dialogue: But so cannot an Oath. There­fore Prayer is not of the essence of a Lot. Neither doe the places, 1. Sam. 14. 41. Acts 1. 24. (whereof the former was a faithlesse prayer) proove it. They proove onely, that prayer was sometimes vsed before an extraordinary Lot, for an immediate Providence to direct the event of it. Which is not law­full in ordinary Lotts. For in set­ting forth tithes, Levit. 27. 32. it was not lawfull to pray God to give a right Lot. In election of offices sacred, or civill prayer [Page 106] ought to be vsed, yet it followeth not therefore, that Prayer is part of the choise, or that therefore the Election, in the nature thereof, doth necessarily suppose a speciall providence, and determining pre­sence of God. Lastly, A Lott is not in it selfe an holy thing alwayes, and necessarily, as hath beene shewed, nor indeed was ever any so save extraordinarily. Therefore there is difference betweene Lotts and Oathes. Indeed, Whosoever shall contemne an extraordinary Lot, he shall abuse an holy thing, and Gods Name.

Reply 2. To this long answer I might make a short reply. For whereas Mr. Gatakers maine ground is this. There is no immediate providence of God in an ordinary, as is in an extraordinrry Lot, and therevpon he buildeth theis answeres, The­refore there is no tempting of God [Page 107] by vsing Lotts in sport: Therefore no prayer expressed, or to be vn­derstood is required in ordinary Lotts: and Therefore an ordinary Lot is not an holy thing in it selfe; I might, (referring my selfe to the defence of my former argument,) breifely reply, and say. There is an immediate providence in an or­dinary Lot. Therefore God is tempted by vsing Lotts in sporte: Therefore Prayer expressed, or to be vnderstood, is required of them who vse an ordinary Lot: and Therefore an ordinary Lot is an holy thing: But something more in replying, will have more savour in reading. Therefore I first mervaile that M. G. forgetteth himselfe in concluding. That all Lotts be vnlawfull, if there be an immediate providence in all Lotts. What? Were extraordinary Lotts vnlawfull too? Nay; He [Page 108] vnderstandeth an exception of them because they were com­maunded by God. So I say, ordi­nary Lotts were advised by God to end controversies. Therefore vsing them, in that case, is no temp­ting of God. I mervaile also, why Mr. Gataker should so confidently affirme, that, by this course, that is, by maintaining an immediate Pro­vidence in all Lotts, an vnlawfull vse of a Lott is allowed in the roo­me of the onely lawfull vse. But I referre the discussing thereof to the defence of my 3. argument▪ Againe, It is to be observed, that he sett's downe a comparison be­tweene an Oath, and a Lott, which I sett not downe, whereby the minde of the reader may be trou­bled▪ For I say not, As the Truth of a thing is, by an Oath, put to Gods Testimony: so in an ordina­ry Lot the R [...]ght of a thing is put [Page 109] to Gods immediate Providence. This is that I say, As an Oath, in the nature thereof, suppo [...]eth the testi­fying presence of God: so a Lot, in the nature thereof, supposeth the determining presence of God. My reason is, Ending a controversy (I say not, Deciding a Right, for, before dividing the land of Promi­se by Lot, no tribe, or family could chalenge more Right to one por­tion, than to another) Ending (I say) a Controversy is, by a Lot re­ferred to God's determining the same by his whole, or immediate disposing the vncertaine Lot) to a certaine event. It is also to be ob­served that in the 2. comparison betweene an Oath, and a Lot, tou­ching Prayer, he saith, Neither is there in every Lot any such so­lemne invocation. Therefore in some Lot, that is, an extraordinary Lot, because of an immediate Pro­vidence [Page 110] to direct the event of it. For the same cause (say I) is prayer to be expressed, or vnder­stood in the vse of an ordinary Lot too. But (saith Mr. Gataker) Prayer is of the essence of an Oath, and not of a Lott. I have said nothing to the contrary; So that he might have spared his definition of a Lot: But because he taketh a definition (such as it is) out of my Dialogue, I will say somewhat thereto. The Definition (so called) is from Lyrd, viz. To vse Lotts is by a variable event of some sensible thing to determine some doubtfull, or vncertaine matter. How is this matter to be determined indeed? Even by God's whole, or immediate disposing the Lot. Hath God the principall hand in the determination? and Is not then Prayer to be expressed, or vnderstood in a Lot, that is, in the managing by the vsers thereof? [Page 111] Now then let vs consider the pla­ces produced to proove it. The former (saith Mr. Gataker) was faithlesse, I say so too, Because that Lot was without any warrant. This (notwithstanding Prayer in this, and the other place) doth shew that God's people beleiving that God doth signifie his iudgment by the whole, or immediate disposing of that Lot, did therefore thinke themselves bound to pray. But both theis Lotts were extraordi­nary, wherein was an immediate providence of God. Therefore they might well beleive they should pray. True; So all Chris­tians may, yea and must be­leive they ought to pray in the vsing ordinary Lotts, because of God's immediate Provi­dence exercised therein. Nay▪ It was vnlawfull in setting out Tithe. If so▪ Not because [Page 112] it was an ordinary Lot (If a Lot) but because the Lord expresly said Of all that goeth vnder the rodde the tenth shall be holy. The instance of elec­tion of offices is besides the pur­pose- For it is not argued thus. Because Gods people prayed when they vsed a Lot, therefore there is an immediate Providence of God in a Lot: But thus. There is an im­mediate Providence of God in a Lot, therefore Gods people prayed when they vsed a Lot. If then there be an immediate Providen­ce of God in a Lot, and in regard thereof, Prayer is to be expressed, or vnderstood in lawfull vse of a Lot, then Praying and Playing, (though they rime well together, yet) runne not well together in the lawfull vse of a Lot. Nay rather it followeth from both That a Lot is not to be vsed but in a case of necessity more, or lesse; and The­refore [Page 113] stra [...]nge (I will not say absurd) is Mr. Gataker his Posi­tion, pag. 111. to witt, The lesse weighty the matter is wherein a Lot vsed, the lawfuller the Lot is. Except it be prooved, That the lesse weighty the m [...]tter is, the greater is the necessity of ending the controversy by a Lot. The said Position is more strange because he graunteth, pag. 95. That Prayer specially applyed to the Lot may, (in some case,) be conceived, where the matter is more weighty, and the event of some conse­quence, as in the choise of a Magistrate. But concerning this also more shall be said in my next Reply. Lastly; It serves my turne that Mr. Gataker ac­knowledgeth that God's Name, and an Holy thing is abu­sod whensoever an extraordinary [Page 114] Lot it contemned, because an im­mediate Providence of God is therein. For the same cause an or­dinary Lot is the Name of God and an Holy thing, and the [...]efore not to be abufed in sport. But Mr. Ga­taker hath shewen before that a Lot is not, in it selfe, an holy thing. In­deed; He would have shewen in his 3▪ reason inducing him to allow lusorious Lotts▪ as not evill in themselves, that a Lot is not holy either in it selfe, or by divine insti­tution. Wherevnto I have already answered somewhat. But having learned more (occasionally) by his further dispute, I will now, for some more satisfaction, answere somewhat more. A Lot (saith Mr▪ Gataker, pag. 132. and 133.) is not holy, either in it selfe, because a Casualty hath no holinesse in it selfe; For then all Casualties should be holy: or By divine institution i [...] [Page 115] the Word, sanctifying it to som [...] holy vse. I answere breifely. Is an extraordinary Lot the Name of God, an Holy thing in it selfe, be­cause of God's immediate Provi­dence therein, and not an ordina­ry Lot in respect of the same Pro­vidence? If it be, Then, though all casualties be not holy in themsel­ves, yet all lawfull Lotts be holy in themselves. So that as [...]he Bush that burnt, and wasted not, was holy, when God manifested him­selfe to Moses in it, pag. 156, so a Lot is holy, because of God's speciall Presence therein. Herein they differ. The Bush was holy but for a time, because God was present in it but for a time: Whereas a Lot is holy from time to time, so oft as it is lawfully vsed, because of God's speciall presence therein from [...]ime to time, Therefore Hows [...] [...]er sport might have beene made with the Bush the speciall presēce of God be­ [...]ng remooved, yet ought sport never be mad [...] [Page 116] with a Lot, because God's speciall presence is ever therein. Againe; I neede not proove that an ordi­nary Lot to ende controversies is by divine institution in the word, seeing Mr. Gataker graunteth that God in Prov. 18. 18. adviseth vs to vse it to that ende. But it is not sanctified to an holy vse. I have shewed otherwise. But what then? Is not a Lot therefore alwayes holy in it selfe, as Mr. Gataker saith in this passage? Were all extraor­dinary Lotts sanctified to holy vses? Yet Mr. Gataker deemeth them all holy in themselves, be­cause of God's immediate Provi­dence in them. Why may not I, for the same cause, thinke the same of all ordinary Lotts? And the ra­ther, because Mr. Gataker saith, pag. [...]27.▪ Marriage, being Gods Ordi­naunce, is holy in it selfe: But (as he acknowledgeth, pag. 1.) a Lot is [Page 117] Gods Ordinaunce; Therefore, from his graunt, a Lot is holy in it selfe. If then a Lot be holy in it selfe I conclude with Mr. Gataker, pag. 133. It may in no case, with no caution, be made matter of sport. Now then I proceed to my 3. argument, which is this, pag. 166.

Dialog. Mat. 21. 12. 13. Numb. 26. 5 [...]. Prov. 18. 18. Heb: 6▪ 16. Whatsoever God hath sanctified to a proper end is not to be perver­ted to a worse end: But God hath sanctified Lotts to a proper end, viz: To end Controversies▪ There­fore man is not to pervert them to a worse, viz: To play, and by play­ing to get away another mans mo­ney, which, without controversy is his owne. The Assumption is am­plified by the like vse of an Oath.

Auns [...]. This Argumēt is faulty. But may be mended thus. That which God hath sanctified to some proper vse is not to be applied to any other, especial­a worse. But God hath sauctifyed [Page 118] Lotts to this propre vse, to witt, the deciding of Controversies in matters of weight; A Lott there­fore may not be applied to any other vse, much lesse to a worse. But to aunswere the argument. The Proposition is graunted, if, [To Sanctisie] be vnderstood in a larger sense, as meates are said to be sanctisied, by God's word, for man's food, and The vnbeleiving mate sanctified to the maried be­leever, and if thereby be also vn­derstood the sanctification, and ap­probation of the whole kinde. To the Assumption, and amplification thereof, it is answered. That place, Prov. 18. 18. doth not inioyne tho vse of a Lot; Nor restraineth it to the ending of strife, Much lesse to the ending of great quarrells one­ly, For, ending strife is but one vse amongst many, Ioshua, 7. 14. Ionas 1. 7. 1. Sam. 14. 42. Levit. 16. 8; 9. So [Page 119] [...]ebr. 6. 16. doth not she w that en­ding a Controversy is the onely lawfull vse of an Oath. For there be other vses of it, As, to give assu­rance of the performance of Co­venants, and promises. For, what controversy was there betweene Ionathan, and David to be ended by1. Sam. 20. 16. 17. 42. Oath when they sware either to other?

Reply [...]. I would thanke Mr. Gataker for mending mine argument, though there be not any great neede, if he had not put into his Assumption theis wordes [In matters of weight] for his owne purpose, as shall ap­peare, But to the matter. In mine vnderstanding, and meaning, the Proposition doth sufficiently ex­presse all that which mooveth Mr. Gataker to graunt it. Well, Then let vs consider his opposition made to the Assumption, and the am­plification thereof. Doth Mr. Gata­ker [Page 120] imply a Lot not be sanctified, because (as he saith now peremp­torily) it is not inioyned? What! Is Recreation (in generall) inioy­ned by precpt, if not directly, yet (at least) by iust consequence, as Mr. Gataker in his allowance of luso­rious Lotts, saith is graunteth by all, pag. 138? and is not so vsefull an Ordinance, as is a Lot, to end Con­troversies, inioyned by precept ei­ther directly, or by iust consequen­ce? Doth God more carefully provide for recreation, than for peace amongst his people? But Mr. Gataker is not so peremptory in an other place, pag. 135. where he saith. The vse of Lotts is not simply com­maunded, For. Prov. 18. 18. is Ra­ther a permission than a precept, & Not so much a commaundement as an advise, & counsaile. I will come to an issue. If it will please M. G. to set downe his iust consequence [Page 121] to proove Recreation inioyned by precept, I will vndertake to sett downe as iust a consequence to proove, that a Lot to end a Contro­versy is likewise inioyned by pre­cept. In meane while I cannot be perswaded that our God of peace,Psal. 34▪ 14. who commaundeth vs to seeke pea­ce, and follow after it, and hath or­deined a Lot, wherein he is special­ly present by his immediate provi­dence, to end controversies, which otherwise cannot be ended conve­niently, doth leave vs at liberty in that case, to vse, or not to vse a Lot. But suppose the vse of a Lot be not (thus) inioyned, yet doth not Gods counsel (which me thinkes is a cōman­demēt though it be said of mans con­sell that it is no commaundement) sanctify it to be vsed to end con­troversies. This (I thinke) will not be denied: But it is denied That the vse of a Lot is restrained to end [Page 122] controversies, much lesse great quarrelles onely, and sundry in­stances are given of vsing Lotts to other endes than to end contro­versies. But all those Lotts were extraordinary. Therefore, where­as in the beginning of this answere where he would finde fault with mine argvment, he saith, That the vse of Lotts in play is ever to de­cide some question, or controver­sy, though a light one (it is like) yet a question, or controversy truely so tearmed, otherwise it were no Lot. If he meane a Lot in gene­rall, then (with his favour) he for­getteth himselfe in saying Lotts, by him quoted were not to end con­troversies: If he speake of a Lot in play, as being an ordinary Lot, then he faileth in iudgment, In denying that the vse of ordinary Lotts (whereof is the question) is restrai­ned to end controversies, and The [Page 123] instances which he giveth being extraordinary Lotts, are not to the point. Besides: The subiect-mat­ter of an extraordinary Lot being by God's speciall direction, if it be lawfull, there may (happily) be no present controversy. Whereas, the subiect-matter of an ordinary Lot, being something questioned betweene man, & man, there may be a great controversy. I say, May be, For if it be well observed, in an ordinary Lot there is not alwayes a present controversy to be deter­mined: But alwayes some question to be decided to prevent a con­troversy. As may appeare by Mr. Gatakers owne wordes, partly here, where he saith [That there must be some question, or controversy, or else it is no Lot,] but more evident­ly, where he saith: That the Lot v­sed by the souldiers about Christ his garments, which he truly calleth [Page 124] a serious divisory Lot, was to pre­vent all contention, and strife, pag. 176. & 177. Such was the Lot also which was vsed about dividing, the Land of Promise, about which was no present controversy. For God, who would have no controversies, whould have also such things re­mooved which may cause, or iustly occasion controversies. Therefore Christ expounding the commaun­dement.Math. 5. 21. 22. Thou shallt not kill, for­biddeth wordes of provocation. About which ordinary Lot, God, who knoweth how ordinary or common, controversies, and the occasions thereof be, giveth direc­tion in Prov. 18. 18. That which is said of an ordinary Lot may iustly be also said of an Oath, that the vse of it is sanctified to end controver­sies by present determination, or prevention. For, as it is true, that Heb. 6. 16. implieth, that Gods Oath [Page 125] to man is more inviolable, than an Oath from man to man, whereof onely, M. G. taketh knowledge, so itpa, 17 [...]. is true, that Heb. 6. 16. intimateth, That, as an Oath, for confirmation, is amongst men an end of all strife▪ so Gods Oath for confirmation of his promise to Abraham, was to put the matter out of doubt, question▪ or controversy▪ Else, theis wordes ▪An end of all strife] were to no purpo­se. But that they were to the purpo­se by me vnderstood, appeareth in the 2▪ uext vers. where it is written. That God bound himselfe by Oath as to shew the stablenesse of his Counsell, so that the heires of promise might have strong cousolation. So that Gods Oath to A­braham tooke away doubting, ques­tioning, & all strife that might be, not onely in Abrahās minde, but also in the mindes of the heires of promise. Therefore an Oath doth not onely end presēt cōtroversies, according to [Page 126] M. G. vnderstanding, but confirming a promise▪ or covenant doth also ende a strife, though there be none present, when the Oath is given, to wit, by Prevention. Now let vs somewhat consider Mr. Gatakers pur­pose in putting into the Assump­tion, theis wordes▪ [In matters of weight.▪ Forsooth, By denying the the same, to make way for light matters, and consequently for playing with Lottes. Because (as he saith, pag. 130.) they best agree with the nature of Lotts, that is, with vncertaine hazard. Surely, If Mr. Gataker had acknowledged God's speciall presence by his im­mediate Providence in a Lot, as being a Lot ordained by God, to end controversies, he would not have so written, but deemed weighty matters best agreeing with the nature of a Lot. It is true that a matter of lesse weight in it [Page 127] selfe may be the subiect-matter of a controversy, as a controversy may be among men, as well meane, as might, yin their state, as Mr. Gata­ker here saith pa. 137. For by migh­ty men (as in Gen. 6. 4. so) in Prov. 18. 18. are meant Men strong in their affections, so as the contro­verfy cannot be well ended with­out a Lot, whether the subiect-matter of the Controversy be of more, or lesse weight in it selfe; so as there is a necessity that one or both parties be satisfied. For other­wise there may be a great quarrell about a matter of lesse weight. Neither doe I say, that onely great quarrells are to be ended, or pre­vented by a Lot, as Mr. Gataker de­nieth not, but some may. For (as he saith truly, pag. 173.) God spea­keth in Prov. 18. 18. of contentions in generall. Here then we may enter into further consideration [Page 128] of that which Mr. Gataker writeth, pag. 135. to wit. That, by the force of our discourse against playing with a Lot, the onely lawfull vse is condemned [...], and an vnlawfull vse is allowed in the roome thereof. What is that Onely lawfull vse of a Lot? I can finde none other than The putting of that to a Lot which he calleth (pag. 130.) A matter of mere indifferency, that is, Such as is not materiall, whether a man doe, or omitt: How­soever there may be a lawfull vse of a Lot about such a matter ques­tioned to determine, or prevent a Controversy, yet I wonder that Mr. Gataker deemeth it that onely lawfull. Doth not he graunt, pag. 91. That Prayer specially applyed to a Lot may be conceived in weighty matters, as in the choise of a Magistrate, which is not a matter of mere indifferency, that is, such [Page 129] as is not materiall whether it be done or omitted. Did God spe­cially appoint Lotts to be vsed a­bout onely matters of weight? and must man so farre swerve from Gods example as to strive onely about matters of such indifferen­cy, and then to putt onely such, controverted, to the determina­tion of a Lot? So that I doubt not but that with found iudgment, and a cleare conscience not accusing me of not duely respecting the speciall Providence, of God by his immediate disposing of a Lot, I may affirme. That the more weigh­ty the subiect-matter of a contro­versy is, the more iustifiable is the Controversy: and Be that matter of more or lesse weight, the grea­ter the necessity of ending a Con­troversy is, the more iustifiable is the vse of a Lot. Is not then play­ing with a Lot an irreligious abu­sing [Page 130] of Gods Ordinance? But (faith Mr. Gataker glad of any thing to pleade for playing with a Lot.) The vse of a Lot in play is ever to decide some question, or contro­versy truely so tearmed. If so, Then he might have called it a serious Lot, according to his doctrine, the lightnesse of the subiect-matter controverted, notwithstanding. But whereabout is that supposed Controversy? Mr. Gataker in his written answere to my Dialogue, before mentioned, sayth. The Controversy tendeth to Victory, which till it be decided, there is a Controversy though a light one, yet a Controversy, truely so tear­med. But is that truely or worthi­ly to be called A Victory, which falleth out by hap-hazard (accor­ding to M. Gatakers esteeming a Lot) without any desert? But (say I) Is it not a tempting of God to put [Page 131] him, by his immediate Providence in disposing the Lot, to humour (I say not, honour) some of the vaine glorious fooles with suppo­sed Victory, who make a preten­ded controversy there-about, whereas (before they intended to play with a Lot) there was none in­deed? Is this a Controversy truly so tearmed? I need say no more, and therefore proceed to the last argumēt (whereof, but part is mine) It is this, pag. 173.

That, which there is neither precept for, nor practise of, in GodsDial. 4▪ word, generall, or speciall, expres­sed or implied, that there is no warrant for in the word: But such is the vse of Lotts in game. For we reade in Scripture that Lotts were vsed, but in serious matters one­ly, both by Iewes, and Gentiles; Nei­ther is there any warrant in the Word for the ludicrous vse of [Page 132] them, by precept, or practise, ge­nerall, or speciall, expressed, or im­plied, There is no warrant there­fore for lusorious Lotts in Gods word.

Aunsw. The Proposition is vnsound. For an argument holdeth (indeed) from the Negative in matters of Faith, but not in matters of Fact. Mnch lesse may a man reason from a matter of Fact, to a matter of Right negatively. For many things are of ordinary vse, whereof there is no mention at all in Gods Word, which yet all generally allow, as2. sugar for sweetning, &c. Secondly; An action may have warrant suffi­ciently by permission, without pre­cept, or practise. For where God hath not limited the vse of any creature, or Ordinance, there he hath left the vse of it free: Where he hath not determined the Cir­cumstances of any action, there, [Page 133] what he hath not prohibited, that he hath permitted. For this cause,Ier. 7. 31 & 19. 5. Col. 2. 22 23. Deu. 12 30. 31. 32 in the point of Gods worship, the argument holdeth from the Nega­tive, for the substance of it. Be­cause God hath determined it: But in civil affaires, it will not holde from the Negative to disallow ought, because God hath not de­termined them.

Reply 4. Mr. Gataker in his booke sheweth many instances of Lotts vsed both by Iewes, and Gentiles, and all in se­rious matters. Which intimateth to me, that they, by the light not onely of the Word, but of nature too, discerned, that Lotts are to be vsed onely in serious matters. O let vs take heed how we put out so great light. But let vs consider his answere, which is onely to the Pro­position, though I have already confuted many principall parts thereof. In my Dialogue to shew [Page 134] that the Spirit sometime reasoneth from a matter of Fact to a matter of right, negatively, I quote theis Scriptures, Iohn 8. 39. 40. 1. Cor. 11. 16. The wordes of the former be theis, Yee goe about to kill me, a man that hath tolde you the truth; This did not Abraham. The argument is this Abraham did not kill any that tolde him the truth, Therefore yee ought not goe about to kill me, if yee would be sonnes of Abraham. This is Christ his Logicke, where­with I dare finde no fault: Neither doth Mr. Gataker. For he saith no­thing to it, because the Printer put­teth for vers. 40. the 48. vers. whe­rewith Mr. Gataker maketh pastime, but I will let passe time now to take further knowledge of it. Of the other quotation the wordes be theis. We have no such custome, nor the Churches of God. The consequent implied is. Therefore nomen ought [Page 135] not to pray vncovered. Herevnto Mr. Gataker answereth indeed, but so, that he doth not deny that Paul argueth negatively from a matter of Fact to a matter of Right. Which is all that I intended by the quota­tion, and not, to imagine this argu­ment. The Churches of God, and faithfull men doe not vse Lotts in gaming▪ Therefore such gaming is vnlawfull. So that I neede not herein reply vpon Mr. Gataker, I onely wonder that he saith. The vse of Lotts in games hath beene common in the Churches of God. What! In the publicke Assemblies? as was the fault of women their heads vncovered in the Church at Corinth? But Mr. Gataker in this answer speaketh of things merely naturall, or civill, as sweetning with sugar, &c. I will not now in­deavour to proove that in the Word there is matter of iust conse­quence [Page 136] either generall, or implied (which is a part of the proposition) to allow as well sweetning with sugar, &c. as Recreation in gene­rall, and therefore they may be lawfull though they be not men­tioned in the Word. But suppose M. Gatakers axiome holdeth in them, what is that to Lotts, wherein is the Name of God by his immedia­te providence, and the vse whereof is limited to ende serious contro­versies? In regard whereof doubt I not but an argument concerning the vse of them, may holde from the Negative in matter of Fact, as well as in matter of Faith, or of the point of Gods worship for the sub­stance of it. For I presume that as Abraham would not, if he had had occasion, as he did not, kill a man that tolde him the truth: so that all who feared God, and knew the nature, and vse of a Lot, would not, [Page 137] as they did not, vse a Lot in game. Secondly. Why may not there be for2. a thing permitted, some precept in the Word, generall, or implied? The permission of any thing must be in the Word, either expresse or by iust consequence, and then the thing so permitted is indifferent. But Mr. Gataker reconsileth theis two axiomes [Every action is indiffe­rent,] & [No action is indifferent,] thus, Every naked and bare action sim­ply conceived, is indifferent: But, No action cladde with his particu­lar circumstances, is indifferent, pag. 94. So that, he concludeth it to be most true, That no particu­lar morall action, or No action of the reasonable creature, procee­ding from reason, can possibly be so indifferent, but it must of neces­sity, be either conformable to the rules of Gods holy word, or dis­conformable therevnto, pag. 95. [Page 138] Theis things, especially theis wor­des (Rules of Gods Word, conside­red,) I may say, that howsoever a naked indifferent thing be by per­mission, yet a clothed indifferent thing, if lawfull, is by precept, or rule, as well as Mr. Gataker saith, Re­creation in generall, is both by permission, and by precept, if not expresly, yet by iust consequence pag. 138. Doth then Mr. Gataker make permission a iust exception against the Proposition? Touching his proofe that Permission is a suf­ficient1. warrant: I first would know what ordinance of God that is, which hath not some limited, or appointed vse thereof. I am sure, and have shewed, that Gods ordi­nance [...]. touching a Lot, hath. Secondly, I greive to observe what a gappe Mr. Gataker hath, by this doctrine, opened to Licentiousnesse. What! may man disposed to finne, imploy [Page 139] any creature, whose vfe God hath not limited, to what vse he will? No; For here is to be vnderstood that exception which is expressed in the next part of the reason tou­ching circumstances, viz [Any vse, but that which is prohibited] How­soever I could demurre the revpon, especially if an expresse prohibi­tion be vnderstood, yet herein I will be silent having enough graun­ted me. For the vse of Lotts in game is prohibited by iust conse­quences, as I have demonstrated. For the better vnderstanding of the 2. part of the reason, (hasting to an end) I onely desire an answere to this question. Is any vse of a Lot lawfull where the circumstan­ces of Time, Place, and Persons be not determined? If Mr. Gataker except an extraordinary vse, I may as well except the lusorious vse of Lotts, In answere to the exemplification [Page 140] of this reason, graunting that an argument holdeth from the Nega­tive for the substance of Gods Worshippe, I yet make this Quaere. Whether, onely because God hath determined it? For in those places of Ieremy, God doth blame his peo­ple onely for vsing a worship [which he commaunded not], wit­hout any intimation that he pres­cribed his owne worship. To the same purpose writeth Paul to the Colossians against traditions of men, and will-worship, not for Mr. Gata­kers cause, but because in so wors­hipping they held not the Head, ver. 19. which is Christ, King of his Church teaching, and governing the same in all things. But in Deut. Mr. Gatakers cause is implied. It is true, that there God forbiddeth his people to inquire how other na­tions served their Gods, and sen­deth them to his word to observe [Page 141] the same, without putting anything to, or taking out from the same. Surely, I should not gather from hence Mr. Gatakers cause, as being the onely cause; Because I feare it would incourage Papists in their superstitious rites, and ceremonies called Circumstances, though, in­deed, parts of the substance of Gods outward worship. For they are to ready to take holde thereof and say God hath determined no­thing touching theis supposed Cir­cumstances, & they are not against the word of God, therefore they are permitted, and so warranted. But I should gather from that, and the other places (I thinke directly, and not auckwardly) this conclu­sion. Because all things in, & vnto the service of God ought to be precisely according to Gods Will revealed in his word, therefore whatsoever is not commaunded [Page 142] ought not to be. And the rather (God being jealous) because of th [...] meaning of the fringes vpon theExo. 20. 5. Num. 15 39. Israëlites their garments, to witt, Tha [...] yee may remember all the Commaunde▪ments of the Lord, and doe them, and that yee seeke not after your owne heart, nor, af­ter your owne eyes, after which yee goe [...] whoring. To the last I answere. That a Lot is no more a Civill af­faire, than is an Oath, though it, (as is an Oath,) be vsed in Civill affai­res. And lastly, I affirme againe, that God hath determined the vse of a Lot to determine contro­versies, so as, without Gods speciall appointment, (which is not now to be expected,) it cannot be lawfully vsed to any other purpose; There­fore an argument from the Nega­tive will holde by Mr. Gatakers rule, to disallow the vse of any other Lot, as well lusorious, as divinato­ry. Thus having answered Mr. Ga­takers [Page 143] reasons inducing him to allow Lusorious Lotts as not evill in themselves, and remooved Mr. Ga­takers answeres to mine arguments, I may more confidently holde mine opinion, which Mr. Dudley Fen­nor (of reverend memory) his godly treatise of Recreations hath taught me▪ to witt, That Tables, and Cardes, as well as Dice, and all other games consisting in cha [...]nce, (wherein there is vse of a Lot) are vtterly vnl [...]wfull.

ERRATA.

Pag. 6.Godlesse re [...]dGod lesse▪
Pag. 13.fomesome.
Pag. 31.yethe:
Pag. 34.nornot.
Pag. 42.withwhat.
Pag. 46.enougeuough.
Pag. 63.withwhat.
[...]ag. 75.observedobserved.
[...]ag. 82.recrearerecreate
[...]g. 86.bete redbettered.
[...]g. 101:theithese.
[...]ag. 103.I servesIt serves.
Pag. 114.itis.
Pag. 127.might [...]ymighty,
Pag. 128.condemnethcondemned.

Pardon the rest, both literall and punctuall▪

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