A Second PARALLEL Together with A WRIT OF ERROR SVED AGAINST THE APPEALER.

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LONDON Printed for ROBERT MILBOVRNE. M.DC.XXVI.

TO THE CATHOLIQVE Christian Reader.

Courteous Reader:

A Few daies since a friend of mine shewed me a Booke intituled a Parallel, which I gladly re­ceiued from him, and perused it the more readily, because I well hoped, that some of the Parallel lines would sute to our Meridian. But taking an exact view of them, and applying them to our Horizon, I found they were somewhat short of our Eleuation: yet I discouered some thing drawne in those Parallels, which I concei­ued [Page] to be of some vse, to wit, the Lineal descent of Arminius by the half bloud at least, frō Pelagius; for if it be confessed, that Arminius his pedegree is lineally to be deriued from Pelagius, and that Pelagius is the great Apenninus, from which the diuided streames of corrupt doctrine flow; then vndoubtedly the assertions of Arminius were priùs damnatae, quàm natae were condemned by the Catholique Christian Church, before they were brought forth by Arminius: And we haue the Prescription of the Christian world, for more than 1200. yeares, against the new encroach­ments of these Sectaries. But me thinks I heare thee ring in mine care the peale of the Poet, Ole quid ad te? what is this to thee, or me? or to the matter now on foot? It is not Arminius, but an Appealer that troubles our Israel; Aemilius fecit, plectetur Rutilius? Aemilius hath done wrong, shall Rutilius beare the blame? Because Arminius browseth vpon some branches of Pe­lagianisme, (a plant which our heauenly Father neuer planted, and therefore in time must be roo­ted out) is it reason, the Appealer should be muzled, or any mans teeth whet against him? Verily, the Appealer disclaimes all kinred or affi­nitie [Page] with Arminius; nay he protesteth, he know­eth not the man; and if peraduenture some Lon­ginus or skilfull Genealogist may be able to dis­proue him, yet certainly the vulgar reader is not. I haue therefore thought it worth the paines, to take the line of Pelagius which is already brought downe to Arminius, and from Arminius to draw it out euen to the Appealer, to the end, all, that are not forestalled with preiudice, may see, that both the Appealer, and Arminius hold their errors in capite from Pelagius; And that at the first the Netherlands, and other parts receiued the infection of pestilent doctrine from Britaine by Pelagius; and now at last, that Britaine hath receiued it from the Netherlands by Arminius: Mater me genuit, eadem mox gignitur ex me. But before I open the leaues of my Tablet, repre­senting on the one side the Arminian, and on the other, the Appealers Demi-Pelagianisme, I in­treat the Reader emunctae naris to follow the sent of Arminianisme in the Appealers writings by these foure steps.

  • 1. His sleight and dilute purgation from the aspersion of Arminianisme.
  • [Page] 2. His direct and professed defence of the Arminians.
  • 3. His casting a blur vpon the Synod of Dort that blasted them.
  • 4. His disparaging the Articles of Lamb­hith, which are è diametro opposite to the tenets of Baro then, and since Ar­minius.

To begin with his Purgation. Although in other Criminations it may be an argument of Innocencie not to be moued or any way sensible of them; yet in the suspition of heresie,Tacit. Maledicta si irascaris, agni­ta videntur▪ spreta exolescunt. no man (as saith Saint Hierom) ought to be silent. Silence in such an accusation is a crying sin, Et patientia digna om­ni impatientiâ, and patience it selfe is vnsuffe­rable. Euery man is bound to professe his faith, and consequently openly to discharge himselfe from all imputation, especially of heresie, which is so foule a crime, that the water of penitent teares alone hath not bin thought enough to wash it away. Scelus hoc exuritur igne; it hath bin vsually burnt out with fire. It leaueth such a spot in the conscience, that S. Cyprian conceiueth, The blood of Martyrdome cannot fetch it out. Ma­cula haec nec sanguine eluitur. Cyprian. epist. Now whether [Page] Pelagianisme be heresie, I thinke it is a question without question, vnlesse we will take vpon vs to censure the censures of the ancient Church, and most eminent Doctors thereof. S. Austin in his booke de bono Perseuerantiae, is not content to call it perniciosissimus error, c. 17. but c. 21. he calls it twise,Antequam Pela­giana haeresis ap­pareret. and re­colant aduersus haeresin Pelagi­anam. Pelagiana haeresis. And that Armi­nianisme is Pelagianisme, either in whole or in part, I take the Parallel, till I see it not slightly glanced at, but substantially refuted to be an ocu­lar demōstratiō.Concil. Carth. sub Aurelio. Nefa­rius & ab omni­bus anathemati­zandus error. Concil. Mileuit. Perniciosissimi erroris auctores perhibentur Cae­lestius & Pela­gius. But if this be yet [...], a point not yet gained, yet that Arminianisme (where­with the Appealer is charged, not only by two Presbyters of his owne ranke, but a reuerend Pre­late his Diocesan) is formally heresie, Appello Caesarem, I appeale to that Caesar whom he first appealed vnto,August. p. 94. ad Hilariū: Omnes qui spem habe­mus in Christo huic pestiferae impietati resi­stere debemus. Prosper. in Crom. Per totum mun­dum haeresis Pe­lagiana damna­ta est. King IAMES, of blessed me­morie, who in his declaration against Vorstius hath these words, concerning Arminius, He was the first in our age that infected Leyden with heresie. And concerning Bertius he writeth thus; Bertius a scholler of Arminius, at this present remaining in your towne of Leyden, August. ep. 47. Pelagiana haeresis venena. August. lib. 1. de pe [...]c. orig. Doctrina illa pestifera. Ad Bonis. l. 2. c. 5. N [...]num & execrabil [...] dogma Pelagianum vel Caelestianum. Et post, Exitiosissima prauitas. hath not [Page] onely presumed to publish of late a blasphe­mous booke of the apostasie of Saints; but hath besides bin so impudent, as to send the other day a copie thereof, as a goodly present, to our Archbishop of Canterbury, together with a Letter, wherein he is not ashamed, as also in his booke, to lye so grosly, as to auow, that his heresies contained in the said booke, are agreeable with the Religion and professi­on of the Church of England.

To cleare then himselfe from the foule spot of this heresie, what course doth the Appealer take? Doth he call God, and his Angels to witnesse, that he renounceth from his heart all Arminius his vnwarrantable and dangerous assertions? Doth he [...], fairely and openly make this, or the like protestation? Arminius teacheth none, but respectiue Predestination: I am for absolute. Vni­uersall grace and redemption is an Article of Ar­minius faith: It is none of mine. The coopera­tion of mans freewill with grace in the first con­uersion, and the power it hath to hinder, and fru­strate the worke of regenerating grace, is current doctrine with Arminius. But I take it for a leaden Leyden error. Arminius maintaineth a [Page] totall and finall falling away from the grace of Iustification: I detest and abhominate that as­sertion, and will haue no Confarreation with the apostate defender of such Apostasie.

This had beene indeed to vnclaspe the right hands of fellowship with Arminius, and if he had euer walkt in his path, to shake the dust from his feet: but in stead hereof, the Appealer casts dust in the Readers eyes, by making a deepe pro­testation, idque in verbo Sacerdotis, of not rea­ding any word in Arminius. I protest (saith he) before God and his Angels, Appeal. to Cae­sar pag. 21. the time is yet to come, that euer I read word in Arminius. Be­fore I read this Protestation, I confesse, that my selfe with many others imagined, that, as Osorius writeth, that some in the Indies by often smelling to Brasell, had Scorpions bred in their braines; so the Appealer by frequent reading of Arminius his bookes, and smelling to his exotecall positions, had hatcht this Serpents brood in his braine. But because hee denieth it, in verbo Sacerdotis, I rest satisfied, that he neuer read Arminius: but for ought he saith to the contrary, he may haue heard all Arminius read ouer to him. Admit he neuer read, or heard of Arminius, this will be no [Page] good plea, if his doctrine be the doctrine of Armi­nius; Legat that was burned in Smithfield, for an Arrian, might protest truly, that he neuer read word in Arrius his bookes, as indeed he could not, because Arrius his bookes, with himselfe, were many hundred yeares ago eradicated, will the Ap­pealer from thence conclude that Legat was no Arrian? How many thousand Nestorians are there in the Greeke Church at this day, who yet neuer read word in Nestorius his writings; not now extant (I take it) any where? I dare say, Arminius himselfe neuer read word in a­ny of Pelagius his workes, or the workes of the Semipelagians, or Massilians, yet he cannot free himselfe from the brand of Pelagianisme; neither doth much desire to be acquitted from the note of Semipelagianisme. Wee reade in the Ciuill Law, Malitia supplet aetatem: Malice oftentimes sup­plies the defect of age. In like manner it is most certaine, that where there is a propension in any mans minde to any old heresie, the malice of the Deuill easily supplyeth the want of reading: Za­barel hauing coyned, as he thought, a new distin­ction vnheard of before, was as proud of it, as euer Pelius was of his new sword, saying, Ego hanc so­lutionem [Page] primus inueni: In comment. in poster. Analyt. yet afterwards he inge­niously confesseth, that perusing Gandauensis his writings vpon the same argument, there he found the selfe-same distinction; and it much reioyced his heart, that so acute a Philosopher as Ganda­uensis, should hit vpon the same conceit with him. Might it not be so with the Appealer? might he not first proiect the new plot of Predestination in his owne head, and yet afterwards light vpon the same in Arminius, or some of his schollers, and exceedingly applaud either their conceit in him­selfe, or his in theirs? For mine owne part I will not vndertake to proue that the Appealer was e­uer an apprentice to Iames Harmin; but by set­ting vp both of their loomes, I will make it appeare that they are both [...], of the same trade or craft.

Thou seest, Christian Reader, that his purgati­on of himselfe needeth a defence, but his direct de­fence of the Arminians much more needeth a pur­gation. No doubt the Appealer read often in the Heathen Orator,Cic. pro Sylla. that it taints a man deepely once to open his lips in the defence of such a man, whom he suspecteth to be an enemie to the State: Quae­dam contagio est sceleris si eum defendas [Page] quem patriae obstrictum esse suspiceris. How much more doth it blurre a mans reputation to frame an apologie for him, whom King Iames of blessed memory, vpon iust and religious considera­tions,Declar. aduers. Vorstium. proclaimeth to be an enemie of God? Either the Appealers charity, or his cōscience must needs be very large, wherein such an offender finds a Sanctuary,King Iames, ibi­dem. against whom all the Churches of Germany made complaint to our then dread So­ueraigne: Nemo omnes, neminem omnes fe­fellerunt: Plin. Panegyr. Neuer one man deceiued all men, neuer all men deceiued one man: yet the Appealer is not only content, some way to blanch Arminius, and his schollers errours (whereof diuers by the Armi­nian way, as a conuenient bridge, haue fairely wal­ked ouer to Popery:) but he, to the infinite wrong of the Primitiue Saints and Martyrs, compareth these Comets to those Stars, and would make these as innocent & vnguilty of the late troubles in the Nether-lands, as they were altogether free from the aspersions, which the Gentiles odiously and im­piously cast vpon them, scil: Appeale pag. 41. were these late of-spring of the Semipelagians so harmelesse and free altogether from sowing seed of dissention in the Church, as the ancient Christians [Page] were from mouing sedition in the State? Why did then the wise and Christian States generall in the Low-countries, by the aduice of our then Salo­mon, call a nationall Synod, and so long continue it at their great charge, to suppresse these, not ve­nimous vipers, tearing the bowels of her mother, (in the Appealers esteeme) but silly and harme­lesse wormes? Why did our gracious Soueraigne King Charles, Balchanquall Concio ad clerū. by his Embassador, the Duke of Buckingham his Grace, deale effectually with the States to root vp the weed of Arminian Liberty, so far spreading among them?Appeale ibid. Yea, but (saith he) did no crafty Interloper put in his stocke a­mong these brawling Bankers? Did no wiser man work vpon exasperated minds? What of that? No question, as it was there, so it will be here, Dum pastores odia exercent, lupus intrat ouile: While the shepherds are at strife, the Wolfe entreth the sheep-fold. Doth this proue, the braw­ling Bankers to be innocent? Or, disproue the speech of our Sauiour,Matth. 18. 7. Woe be to him by whom offen­ces come? But it should seeme there is such a neare tye betweene the Appealer, and the Arminians, that they are entred into a league defensiue, and of­fensiue, [Page] for as he holdeth his buckler ouer them: so he mainly foiles at their opposites: He slighteth, vilifieth,Pag. 70. & Pag. 108. and falsly traduceth the Synod of Dort; for what reason, but because they touch the apple of his eye, the Arminian theologie? He stirs the Articles concluded at Lambhith, he carpeth at the most reuerend Metropolitans, reuerend Bishops, and renowned Doctors,Appeal. pag. 71. 72. the floure of both Vniuer­sities, who subscribed them, and published them. Neither can hee yeeld any reason hereof, but be­cause those eminent and euery way accomplisht Diuines at Lambhith, crushed the addle egge now smelling in the Appealers writings, when it was new laid in Cambridge, before Baro could hatch it. If these proofes be not pregnant, that the Ap­pealer is deepely engaged in the Arminian pact, I intreat the Reader to trust his owne eyes, in com­paring the ensuing doctrines and arguments, set one against the other by way of Parallel, where he shall finde, that as in the water, face answereth face: so in the humor of renuing Pelagianisme, the Appealer doth Arminius. If Arminius or Ber­tius be the Voice, the Appealer is the Eccho; if the Appealer be the Voice, Arminius or Bertius is [Page] the Eccho. Behold them both in the ensuing ta­blet, like those two of whom the Poet spea­keth, Alter in alterius iactantes lumi­na vultus: One looking, as it were, babies in ano­thers eyes.

The Second Parallel.

Of absolute Predestination.

ARMINIANS.

ARMINIVS in his a Declarat. to the States of Holland & West-Frisland, from pag. 22. to pag. 42. endeauoureth to proue by twenty arguments, that God hath not decreed absolutely and precisely to saue certain singular men by his grace or mercy.

Bertius of the Apostasie of Saints, Edit. Lugduni, Anno 1615. pag. 12. Demand the first. There is no absolute E­lection, and b pag. 25. Abso­lute Predestination granted, it was necessary to remoue the whole Scripture, to settle that head or doctrine.

Arminius in the forecited Declaration, pag. 33. Out of this doctrine (to wit, of ab­solute [Page 2] solute Predestination) it c fol­loweth, that God is the Author of sinne. And this may bee proued by a foure-fold Ar­gument.

1. Because this Doctrine layeth it downe, that God precisely hath decr [...]ed to de­monstrate his glory by pu­nishing or punitiue iustice, and mercy, sauing some men, and damning others; which but by d Sinne entring into the world neither was, nor could be done, &c.

Arminius respons ad Artic. 10. It would be easie for mee to conuince the opinion of some of the brethren of Ma­nich [...]isme and Stoicisme.

We protest to the whole world, that by our aduer­saries e Manicheisme, and f Stoicisme, or fatall necessitie is [...]rought into the Church. The Embleme of their booke of the Acts of the Synod of Dort hath this triumphant ti­tle [Destructo fato] or the [...] of Fate▪ Ex Act. Syn. Dordrac. in Peror.

Bert. epist. Dedic. before his booke of the Apostasie of the [Page 3] Saints: There are who flie Pelagianisme, not seeing that they plainly side with the Ma­nichees. [Hee citeth these words as out of an Epistle of Cas [...]ubon, but forged by him­selfe.]

Hag Conference set out by Bert. pag. 90. This absolute Decree openeth a gate on this side to a g dissolute life, on that side to h desperation.

APPEALER.

APPEALE to Caesar, pag. 58. In all which passage (to wit, of the seuenteenth Article there re­hearsed) both concerning Gods decree and execution of that de­cree, is not one word, syllable, or apex touching your absolute, necessary, determined, irre­sistible, irrespectiue decree of God to call, saue, and glorifie, Saint Peter, for instance, in­fallibly without any considerati­on had of, or regard to his faith, obedience, and repentance.

Appeale to Caesar, pa. 54. Nothing is by mee ascribed to your side, and to your Doctors, but an absolute and irrespectiue decree concerning man, in v­tramque partem. I brought no inferences to presse you with­all, [Page 2] such as are commonly, and odiously made against you by op­posites, whose virulent inue­ctiues, though too true imputa­tions, I vsed not. I did not charge you with making God the Au­thor of sinne; That the repro­bate are i [...]cited on, and prouo­ked to sinne by God; That God was the Author of Iudas trea­son, and the like.

Appeale, pag. 68. I neuer yet read of any prime, preuious determining decree, by which men were irrespectiuely denied grace, and excluded from glory: vnlesse from damned e Here­tiques, or f Sto [...]call Philoso­phers.

Appeale, pag. 30. Against that absolute, irrespectiue, ne­cessitating, and fatall decree of your new Predestination.

Appeale, pag. 60. I must [Page 3] confesse my dissent through and sincere from the faction of No­ [...]lising Puritans, &c. but in no one point more, than in this their h desperate doctrine of Predestination, in which as they delight to trouble themselues and others in nothing more, so, I professe, I doe loue to meddle nothing lesse. I haue not, I did not desire, nor intend to declare my opinion in that point.

a Edit. Lugduni Batau. ex officina Tho. Basson, 1512.

b Positâ Praedestinatione illâ absolutâ, necessarium fuit to­tam scripturam loco mouere vt illud caput adsereretur.

c It no way followeth: See Caluines Preface of his booke of Diuine Predestin. and first booke of Institut. 17. Chap. Beza against Castellio Peter Martyr in his Comment. on the 1. Chap. of the Epistle to the Romans. Zuinglius in his Sermon of Prouidence. Abbot Prelect. of the Author of sinne. Paraeus Answer to Bella [...]mine second booke of the state of sinne, and losse of grace, chap. 4. and diuers others.

d God decreed the permis­sion and disposing of sinne, which he fore-saw vpon his permission would be, hee did not decree the effe­cting, or existence of it, that it should be. Saint Au­gustine fully answereth these and the like Arguments in his booke de Corrept. & Grat. cap. 10. We freely [Page 4] confesse that, which we most rightly beleeue, that the God and Lord of all things, who made all things ex­ceeding good, and fore-saw, that euill things would arise out of good, and knew, that it more appertained to his most omnipotent goodnesse, to draw good out of euil, than not to suffer euils to be, hath so ordred the life of men and Angels, that in it first he might shew the power of their owne free-will, and then the be­nefit of his grace, and iudgement of his iustice. And in his Enchiridion ad Laurentium, cap. 11. God, being most exceeding good, would not by any meanes suf­fer any euill to be in his workes, but that he is also so omnipotent and good, that he can and doth worke good euen out of euill.

e As Iulian the Pelagian often in his bookes vpbrai­ded Saint Augustine with Manicheisme; so doth Armi­nius and the Appealer (following the Pelagians step by step) lay the same imputation vpon the orthodox defenders of Predestination. But the imputation is most false; for the Manichees held two soules in a man, one good, another bad, and ascribed good and euill not to the free-will of man, but to those two soules: We, with the holy Fathers, teach but one soule in man, and referre good and euill to Free-will, but so that the will of it selfe is free to euill, but is not, neither can, si­thence the fall of Adam, be free vnto good, till God [Page 5] hath freed it by his grace, according to the words of our Sauiour in Saint Iohns Gospell, Chap. 8. 36. But if the Sonne make you free, you shall be free indeed. And of Saint Paul, Rom. 6. 18. Made free from sinne, &c.

f A stale obiection long sithence answered by Saint Augustine, in his second booke, cap. 5. ad Bonifac. Wee maintaine not Fate, or fatall necessity vnder the name of grace; but if it please some men to call the omni­potent will of God vnder the name of Fate, we seeke indeed to auoid prophane nouelty of word, but wee will not contend about words. To which answer of Saint Augustine we may further adde, that the beleefe of Christians, touching the falling out of all things according to the determinate counsell of God, Act. 2. differeth from the Stoicke Fate, or Fatality, in foure things.

  • 1. The Stoicks subiected God himselfe to Fate: Iupiter, though he most desired, could not free Sarpedon; we subiect Fate, that is, the necessitie of things, to Gods most free-will.
  • 2. They vnder the name of (Fate) vnderstood an eternall fluxe and necessary connexion of natu­rall causes, and effects: we teach that all natural and second causes had their beginning in the Creation; neither is there such a necessary and absolute depēdance of effects from their natu­rall [Page 6] causes, but that God can, and often doth suspend those effects, and miraculously worke beside, aboue, nay against nature.
  • 3. The Stoicks by their Fatality took away all con­tingencie, wee admit contingencie in future euents, in respect of their second causes which worke contingently, though whatsoeuer com­meth to passe falleth within the certaine presi­ence of God, and is ordered by his proui­dence.
  • 4. The Stoicks taught, that men were impelled to sin by a fatall motion, and that mans will was forced by Destiny. We detest and abhorre any such assertion. See more hereof in Melancthon his Common places. Gratianus Ciuilis in Semipela­gianismo. Lipsius lib. 1. de Constantia cap. 18. & sequent.

g Tis true, as we reade in the seuenteenth Article, that for curious and carnall persons lacking the Spirit of Christ, to haue continually before their eyes the sen­tence of Gods Predestination, is a most dangerous downefall, whereby the Deuill doth thrust them ei­ther into desperation, or into retchlesnesse of most vncleane liuing, no lesse perillous than desperation. The sweetest meat in a corrupt stomacke turnes to choller, but the fault is in the stomacke, not in the [Page 7] meat; in like manner the word of God, and in parti­cular this doctrine of the Word is in it selfe a sauour of life vnto life, but to some proues no better than a sa­uour of death vnto death, because as Saint Peter 2. 3. 16. telleth vs, They peruert the doctrine of holy Scriptures to their destruction. For the doctrine it selfe of Predesti­nation, it openeth no gate to a dissolute life, but shut­teth and barreth all such vnlawfull posternes; Shall we continue in sinne because grace aboundeth? God forbid, Rom. 6. 1. On the contrary, it openeth a faire gate, and directeth a certaine readie way to holinesse of life; For God hath predestinated vs, that we might be confor­mable to the Image of his Sonne, Rom 8. 29. And God hath chosen vs before the foundation of the world, that we might be holy and blamelesse before him in loue, Ephes. 1. 4.

h In this obiection from Desperation, the Armini­ans and Appealer, as likewise in the former, furbush vp the old Pelagians harnesse, which Saint Augustine hath beat in peeces in his booke of the gift of Perseuerance, chap. 17. I will not amplifie with mine owne words, but I leaue it rather to them seriously to consider, what a strange thing it is, that they should perswade themselves the doctrine of Predestination doth bring to the hearers, rather matter of desperation, than ex­hortation, (or consolation:) for this is in effect to say, that then a man is to despaire of his saluation, when [Page 8] he is taught to repose his hope and confidence not in himselfe, but in God; whereas the Prophet crieth out, Cursed is he that putteth his trust in man. Some indeed make a desperate vse of this doctrine, but the doctrine it selfe is no desperate doctrine, or doctrine of despera­tion, but of heauenly consolation, as we reade in the seuenteenth Article, [which ought for euer to stop the mouth of the Appealer, from slandering as he doth, the truth of God.] The godly consideration of Predestinati­on and our Election in Christ, is full of sweet, pleasant, and vnspeakable comfort to godly persons, and such as feele in themselues the working of the Spirit of Christ, mortifying the works of the flesh and their earthly members, and draw­ing vp their minde to high and heauenly things, as well be­cause it doth greatly establish and confirme their faith of eternall saluation to be enioyed through Christ, as because it doth feruently kindle their loue towards God.] On the contrary, the doctrine of the Arminians and the Ap­pealer, which maketh Gods Election to depend vpon the will of man, which, as they say, may totally and finally fall away from grace, is in truth a most despe­rate doctrine, taking away all solid and firme ground of comfort both in life and death, as shall appeare hereafter.

Of Election vpon fore-seene faith.

ARMINIVS.

ARMIN. Oration to the States, pag. 49. * The Decree whereby God hath decreed to saue certaine and singular persons, doth depend vpon his prescience, by which he fore-knew from eternitie, who according to the dispensation of sufficient meanes for their conuersion and faith, would by preuen­ting grace i beleeue, and subsequent perseuere. And he is so hot in this point, and proceedeth so far, Argument 19. as to affirme, That the o­pinion of precise Election, without respect of foreseene faith in the elect, ouerthrow­eth the foundation of all Re­ligion.

Hag. Conference set out by Bert. pag. 62. The absolute decree, whereby it is said, that God in chusing men, did not respect any mans good [Page 10] qualities fore-seene, cannot stand with the nature of God, nor with Scriptures. The like is affirmed by Arnol­dus against Tilenus. And Gre­uinchouius against Amese and the Arminians generally, who thus take that question in the Conference at Hage, pag. 123. Faith in Gods decree of ele­ction doth in order goe be­fore, not follow election; it is not a fruit of election, but an antecedent conditon to it.

APPEALER.

APPEALE, pag. 58. The irrespectiue decree of God to call, saue, and glorifie Saint Peter without any consi­deration had of, or regard vnto his i faith, obedience, and re­pentance &c. I say there, and I say truly, is the priuate fancie of some particular man.

Pa. 64. There must needs be first a k disproportion before there can be conceiued an election, or dere­liction. This disproportion he af­terward declares to be in the dif­ferent wils of men, wherof some took hold of merey, others would not. His words are, When all a­like being plunged, &c. God out of his mercy stretched out to them deliuerance in a Mediator, the Man Iesus Christ, and drew them out that tooke hold of mercy, leauing them there that would none of him. Which is all one, as if he had said, he decreed to saue them from the common [Page 10] destruction which he fore-saw would beleeue, and reiect those whom he fore-saw would not be­leeue, for by faith they take hold of mercy, and through incredu­litie reiect it: nay in this point the Appealer speaketh not so warily as the Arminians, for they require faith in a person to be elected and iustified, as an an­tecedent condition, they doe not say as a cause or motiue in God to elect, iustifie, and saue: But the Appealer, Answer to the Gag, pag. 143. and Appeale, pag. 194. saith, that God was drawne by our faith to iustifie vs.

* Decretum, quo decreuit Deus singulares & certas quasdam personas saluare, praescientiâ nititur, quâ ab ae­terno sciuit, quinam iuxta administrationem mediorum ad conuersionem & fidem idoneorum ex praeueniente gra­tia credituri erant, & subsequente perseueraturi.

i When the Arminians, and the Appealer make El­ection to depend vpon fore-seene faith, either they meane that this faith is a meere gift of God, receiued only by mans free-will, or not so, but in part, or in whole a worke of mans will. If they hold faith to be a meere gift of God, their opinion of election vpon fore-seene faith implieth a contradiction; for it ma­keth [Page 11] the former grace and gift of Predestination to glory to depend vpon a latter gift of faith. Beside, if faith be the meere gift of God, it can be no reason of difference betweene the Elect and Reprobate, on the part of the Elect and Reprobate, why the one should bee chosen, and the other refused, for the Elect haue it not of themselues, and the Reprobate haue it not at all, because it is not giuen. To referre ele­ction in this sense to faith, as it is Gods meere gift, is to make election to depend vpon Gods meere will, who giueth faith to some, and not to others, which quite ouerthroweth the foundation of Arminianisme. If they meane that fore-seene faith is in part, or in whole, a Worke of mans free-will by nature, and not meerely a gift of God, then their opinion dasheth directly on the rocke of Pelagius, [that Grace is giuen according to some merit of man] that is, as Saint Augustine expoun­deth it, De bono perseuer. c. 19. Some good thought, word, or deed, or the good will it selfe, to receiue grace and faith, when otherwise man might haue reiected or re­pelled it: whereas the Apostle teacheth, that it is God which Or make one man differ fro [...] another, discerneth one man from another, & that no man hath any good thing different frō another, which he hath not receiued, 1 Cor. 4. 7. Whereupon Saint Au­gustine concludeth in his Epistle to Sixtus, and in his booke of Predestination of Saints, Chap. 5. And in his [Page 12] Enchiridion ad Laurent. cap. 99. That which put­teth a difference betweene a beleeuer and vnbeleeuer, making him to beleeue, and not the other, is a speciall grace giuen by God to the one, and not the other; and consequently, that the separation of some men, and taking them out of the masse of perdition, is of Gods meere grace, and not in regard of any different quali­ties in men. A proud man might haue said, saith that ho­ly Father, of Predestination of Saints, chap. 5. against another man, my faith maketh me to differ from thee, my righteousnesse, or the like; [which insolent words of a proud man rehearsed by Saint Augustine, Greuincho­uius is so impudent, as to take vpon, and patterne in himselfe, saying, Ego me discerno, I discerne my selfe.] The good Doctor meeting with such thoughts, and checking them, saith, What hast thou that thou hast not receiued? from whom, but from him, who made thee dif­fer from another? to whom he hath not giuen, that he hath giuen to thee: and if thou hast receiued it [namely, that wherein thou differest from another] Why doest thou boast, as if thou hadst not receiued it? Nothing is so contrary to the meaning of the Apostle, as that any man should so glory of his owne merits, or good workes, as if he had wrought them to himselfe, and not the grace of God; to wit, that grace of God which discerneth good men from bad, not that, which is [Page 13] common to good men and bad. The maine conclu­sion of Saint Augustine in his Enchiridion, is most di­rect to our purpose, Sola gratia redemptos discernit à per­ditis, Grace alone discerneth or differenceth the redee­med from the lost, whom a common cause deriued from the beginning or root, had vnited in one masse of perdition.

k This argument from disproportion deceiued sometime Saint Augustine, till he better considered of the words of the Apostle, Rom. 11. 5. So then there re­maineth a remnant according to the election of grace. It is impossible indeed to conceiue an election according to desert of some, rather than others, in a meere pari­tie; there must needs be a disproportion in such an election, but in an election of free grace there needs none, there can be no such disproportion, for if electi­on be of workes, then it is not of grace. Here if the Appealer, or any his friend, shall difference his opinion from the Arminians, by distinguishing the decree of election, in which there is no respect had to faith from the execution, in which, all sides confesse, respect is had to faith and perseuerance; I answer that the Ap­pealer hath shut the doore of this Sanctuary against himselfe, and debarred himselfe from this defence, pag. 61. saying, I shall as I can briefly and plainly, without scholasticall obscurities, set downe what I conceiue of this [Page 14] Act of God, or decree of Predestination, setting by all exe­cution of purpose. After which Preface, without any interruption of other discourse, he deliuereth his opi­nion of election, as is aboue rehearsed.

Of Free-will.

ARMINIANS.

THe Arminians differ from Orthodoxal Di­uines about Free-will in two points:

1. They teach, Hag. Con­fer. pag. 502. & sequent. That the will of man hath some o­peration of it selfe in the first act of our conuersion, and doth cooperate with grace. God giueth grace sufficient to conuert, but doth not so determine the will, but that it may out of it's freedome ad­mit grace, or not.

Their main reason is, God doth not beleeue, but wee; therefore l we worke euen [Page 15] in our first conuersion, other­wise the assent should bee Gods, not ours.

2. They teach, that the will of man hath power to hinder and resist the worke of grace in his regeneration and con­uersion. Arminius in his Orat. to the States, pag. 53. I beleeue according to the Scriptures, that grace is not (vis irresisti­bilis) an irresistible force or power, but that many doe m resist the holy Spirit. Hag. Confer. pag. 502. The question is, whether grace, which worketh in man faith and conuersion, can­not be hindred, but is an irresi­stible operation, such as God v­seth in raising the dead. They alledge to proue, [...]hat man may resist grace, Act. 7. 51. Yee stiffe-necked, and of vncir­cumcised hearts and eares, yee haue alwaies n resisted the ho­ly Ghost. And Matth. 23. 37. How oft would I haue gathered your Children, as a Hen gathe­reth her Chicken vnder her wings, and yee o would not.

APPEALER.

APpeal. p. 84. It is suppo­sed by some that the diffe­rence betweene the Pon­tificians and vs consists in this, that the will of man concurreth and cooperateth with diuine grace in the first very instant, and point of conuersion: wee teach that the will of man doth not cooperate in the first point, but in progresse of our iustifica­tion, so Keckerman in his Sy­steme, a better Logician, than Diuine. This Assertion of Kec­kerman he refelleth from pag. 85. to 89. and pag. 92. he in­sisteth vpō the same reason with the Arminians. If this were not so, then faith and repentance [Page 15] were no the actions of man, nei­ther could man be said to beleeue and repent, but the holy Spirit.

Appeale, pag. 89. The Councell of Trent addeth, that a man may resist the grace of God; admit: then, first man hath m free-will against God; Saint Steuen, in terminis, hath the very word, [...], you n re­sist, nay fall crosse with the holy Ghost, not suffering him to work the worke of grace in you. And what said our Sauiour, How of­ten would I, and thou wouldst o not? If the Councell meant of stirring, preuenting, and p o­perating grace, I thinke, no man will deny it: if of adiuuant, sub­sequent, and cooperating grace, there is, without question, in the naturall will of a regenerate man so much of Adam remai­ning, and carnall concupiscence, as may make him resist, and rebell against the Law of God.

l We answer with Saint Augustine in his first booke De gratiâ & libero arbit. cap. 16. It is certaine, that we [Page 16] will when we will; but he makes vs to will that is good, of whom it is said, Pro. 8. The will is prepared by God; and God worketh in vs to will, Philip. 2. It is cer­taine that we work when we worke, but he worketh in vs to worke, by giuing most efficacious power to the will, who saith, I will make you to walke in my waies, Ezek. 36. Faith and repentance are our workes, be­cause in vs, though not of vs: actions and passions de­nominate the subiect, not the cause; God is the effi­cient cause of faith and repentance; but the subiect, in which these vertues are wrought, is man, who ther­fore is said to beleeue and repent, because these things are wrought in him, but not by the power of his own will, but by the effectuall worke of grace, stirring the will, and making it freely to assent vnto, and be­leeue the Gospell. Bernard. de lib. Arbit. What doth free-will? I answer, in one word it is saued, or cured; this worke cannot bee done without two; one by whom, the other in whom it is wrought. God is the Author of it, (the health or cure of the will) free-will is only capable of it.

m

Grace is two-fold,
  • Outward.
  • Inward.

Outward,
  • Offered in the ministery of the Word.

Inward,
  • Enlightning and inciting only.
  • Renewing and regenerating.

[Page 17] Men can, and do resist outward, and inward, only en­lightning grace; but not renewing, and regenerating grace, so far as to hinder their conuersion; or, after they are cōuerted, vtterly to cast away the spirit of sanctifi­cation, and thereby fall away totally, & finally. If God should giue no other grace, but such as man at his pleasure might reiect, or repell, hee should haue no kingdome within vs: and if he could not by his grace absolutely subdue, and conquer the stubbornesse of mans will, he should not be omnipotent. If grace doth not determine mans will, but mans will the influxe and effect of it, the peace and grace of God should not rule in our hearts, but euery man should be ruled to righteousnesse, as well as to sinne, by his owne free-will; which was the expresse heresie of Pelagius, and Caelesti­us, as Prosper in precise termes sets it downe in his Chronicle, in the yeare of our Lord, 414.

n To the place in the Acts I answer: First, That Saint Steuen speaketh of the Iewes resisting the Spirit of Prophecie, not the Spirit of regeneration: the Iewes gain-said, withstood, and opposed the Word of the holy Ghost, vttered by the Prophets, not the secret working of the holy Ghost by grace in the hearts of such, whom he would, and did conuert. Secondly, We confesse, that men vncircumcised in heart, (such as were these Iewes, whom Saint Steuen vpbraideth) not [Page 18] only can resist, but can doe no other then resist the holy Ghost; but regenerating grace by circumcising the heart, remoueth that hardnesse whereby it resisteth grace, and then it cannot resist, because that, which makes it resist, is taken away; as Saint Augustine infer­reth vpon that of Ezechiel the eleuenth, I will take away your stony-hearts, and giue you an heart of flesh. His inference is, Chap. 8. of Predestination of Saints, This grace which is secretly conueighed into the hearts of men, is not refused or repelled by any hard heart, for it is there­fore giuen, that the hardnesse of the heart may first be ta­ken away.

o Not to insist vpon the distinction of the double will of God [well knowne to the learned by the noti­ons of signi, & beneplaciti, his commanding, or declara­tiue will, which is not alwaies fulfilled; and his power­fully working, and absolute good will and pleasure, which is alwaies fulfilled:] I further answer, that this place of Scripture rightly interpreted, as it is by Saint Augu­stine, makes against, and no way for the Arminians, and Appealer; for Christ saith not, How often would I haue gathered you Scribes and Pharises, and those Rulers and Gouernours of Ierusalem, which killed my Prophets, and you would not; but how often would I haue gathered your Children, that is, the inhabitants of Ierusalem, and I did also though you would not, but did what you [Page 19] could to hinder their gathering vnder my wings, that is, their assembling to the true Church, and sheltring themselues vnder the shade thereof. Quos volui, te nolente congregaui, Whom I would gather I gathered, though thou wouldst not. So Saint Augustine vpon these words.

p If by operating grace, hee meaneth that grace whereby God circumciseth the heart, Deut. 30. openeth the heart, Acts 16. conuerteth the heart, Ierem. 31. taketh away a stony heart, Ezek. 36. writeth his Law in the heart, Ierem. 31. worketh faith in the heart by the mightinesse of his power, Eph. 1. and 2 Thess. 1. 11. [...]; no man, I suppose, [who is well catechised in the principles of Religion] will maintaine, that such grace may be resisted: For this were to make the impoten­cie of mans will to preuaile against the omnipotencie of God, and to disappoint his purpose, and frustrate his worke. Saint Augustine [that Delian diuer into the depth of this mystery] resolueth the contrary in many places in his booke of Predestination of Saints, Chap. 8. Why doth he complaine, sithence no man doth, or can resist his will? Doth the Apostle answer, O man, it is false, that thou sayest? No he saith no such thing: But, who art thou, O man, that answerest God? And de Corrept. & Gratiâ, cap. 12. The weaknesse of mans will is helped in such sort, that it is led by diuine grace indeclinably and vn­conquerably [Page 20] [insuperabiliter ageretur:] and what is [vn­conquerably] lesse then [irresistibly!] if grace vn­conquerably lead the will, the will cannot conquer grace in striuing against it. And Chap. 14. ibidem. No will of man resisteth God, when God will saue. And hee confirmeth his Assertion with a reason, prouing that the will of man neither doth, nor can resist the will of God; for, saith he, To will and to nill are so in the power of him that willeth or nilleth, that it can neither hinder Gods will, nor conquer his power. And in his first booke of questions to Symplician, 2. Quest. The effect of Gods mercy cannot be in mans power to frustrate it, if he list; or that God should haue mercy in vaine [if man would not take hold of it] because if God would haue mercy on those who are reluctant, and withstand it, he could so call them, as it might befit them, that is, be effectuall vnto them. Saint Bernard in his booke of Free-will followeth Saint Au­gustine close; There is made a creation of the will by Christ into liberty, and that without vs; if into, then not out of liberty, or freedome of will: if without vs, then it is not in our Power to hinder this worke of God.

Of falling away from Grace.

ARMINIANS.

HAGE Conference, pag. 355. The Do­ctrine of our Aduer­saries, [who teach, that a man cannot fall away from grace totally, nor finally] is an q hin­derance to godlinesse, and also to good manners.

Theses exhibited to the Sy­nod of Dort concerning the fifth Article, All things being fore-laid, which are necessarie, and sufficient for perseuerance, it remaineth still in the power of man, to perseuere, or not perse­uere.

Bertius in his booke of A­postasie of Saints, endeuou­reth to proue that his blas­phemous Assertion by diuers texts of Scripture, Authori­ties of Fathers, and Reasons; from whose Armory the Ap­pealer furnisht himselfe; as will appeare by comparing their allegations together.

Bertius Iidit. Lugduni Ba­tauorum [Page 22] apud Lodouicum El­zeuirium, in the yeare of our Lord 1615. pag. 169. You could not be ignorant, that the Confession of the Church of England, was cited by mee truly in the Acts at Hampton Court. pag. 107. The Eng­lish Confession set out in the yeare of our Lord 1562. Article 16. After we haue receiued the holy Ghost we may r depart from grace.

Bertius in his Dedicatory Epistle. Doctor Bancroft at the Conference at Hampton Court, withstood Doctor Rainolds, who to that Article of the English Confession, concerning departing from grace, would haue those words added [but not totally, nor finally.]

APPEALER.

ANswer to Gag. pag. 157. That [faith once had may be lost] may be interpreted, and is, more wayes, than one: whether not lost at all; whether totally, and finally lost. Men are diuided in this tenent; Some suppose neither totally, nor finally; some totally, but not fi­nally; some both totally, and fi­nally, which is indeed the asser­tion of antiquitie. Ibid. The learnedst of the Church of Eng­land assent to antiquity in their tenent, which the Protestants of Germany maintain at this day, hauing assented therein to the Church of Rome. Appeale, pag. 36. In my iudgement, this is the doctrine of the Church of England, not deliuered accor­ding to priuate opinions in ordi­nary Tracts and Lectures, but deliuered publiquely, positiuely, and declaratiuely in Authentick records.

Appeale, pag. 28. They were [Page 22] the learnedst in the Church of England, that drew, composed, and agreed the Articles in 52. and▪ 62. that ratified them in 71. that cōfirmed them in 604. that iustified, and maintained them against the Puritans at Hampton Court: but all such doe assent to antiquity in this tenent. Ibid. p. 29. The Minor I make good par­ticularly, & will proue it obsig­natis tabulis. In the 16. Article we reade, and subscribe this; Af­ter wee haue receiued the holy Ghost, wee may r depart away from grace, and fall into sinne.

Appeale, pag. 30. This Arti­cle was s challenged as vnsound at the Conference at Hampton Court, by those that were Peti­tioners against the Doctrine and Disciplie established in the Church of England: and being so challenged before his Sacred Maiestie, was there defended and maintained, &c. namely by Doctor Ouerall, pag. 31.

q See this obiection answered in the first question of absolute Predestination.

r The Article hath not the word [Alway] that is the Appealers addition. The words are not, [After we [Page 23] haue receiued the holy Ghost, we may fall into sinne, and so fall away from grace; but we may depart from grace giuen, and fall into sinne:] that is, so farre depart from grace, that a man may fall into sinne, after grace receiued; which is confessed on all parts. The Article speaketh not of a totall falling away from grace, much lesse, finall; for the words immediatly following are [and by the grace of God, to wit, (before giuen) we may rise againe.] He that falleth finally, cannot rise againe: he that falleth totally from grace, cannot rise againe by the grace he had receiued, because he is supposed to haue lost all the grace he receiued; and the Article speakes not of new grace, but onely of grace before receiued, and giuen. Besides, the words of the Apostle to the Hebrewes 6. 6. beare strongly that way; that a man, who was once partaker of the holy Ghost, if hee fall away, that is, totally cast away the Spirit of grace, cannot possibly be renewed againe by repentance. Whence we thus argue;

None who may after their fall rise againe by repentance, fall totally, or finally, Heb. 6. 6.

But all those, of whom the Article speakes, may after their fall, rise againe by repentance.

Therefore none of whom the Article speaks fall totally, or finally.

s The Appealer vttereth two manifest vntruths in [Page 24] this allegation out of the Conference at Hampton Court. The first is, That he faith the sense of the Ar­ticle was there challenged as vnsound; for Doctor Rainolds [who in the name of the rest desired a fuller explication of the meaning of the Article, to preuent that mistaking, which is sithence fallen out in M. Mon­tague, and others] began with this Preface [Though the meaning of the Article be sound, and good &c.] The se­cond is, That he affirmeth, that this tenent, [a iustified man may fall away from grace, and become, ipso fa­cto, in the state of damnation, &c. now styled Arminia­nisme by these Informers] was resolued, and auowed for true by Doctor Ouerall, and that honourable and learned Synod. For Doctor Ouerall, after he had affir­med, That a iustified man committing any grieuous sinne (as adultery, murther, or treason) became, ipso facto, sub­iect to Gods wrath, and was in the state of damnation (quoad praesentem statum) addeth, yet those that are cal­led, and iustified according to the purpose of Gods election did neuer fall, either totally from all the graces of God, to be vtterly destitute of all the parts, and seeds thereof, or fi­nally, from iustification; but were in time renewed by Gods Spirit vnto a liuely faith, and repentance, and so iustified from those sinnes, and the wrath, curse, and guilt annexed thereunto, whereinto they were fallen, and wherein they lay so long, as they were without true repentance for the same.

Of Falling away from Grace.

ARMINIANS.

BERTIVS pag. 25. De Apostas. Sanct. That which we haue proposed we proue, first, by those formes of Scripture, by which Apostasie is diuersly described; for this the Scripture calleth to turne away from righteousnesse, Ezek. 33. 13. If the righteous commit ini­quity, all his righteousnesse shall be no more remembred, but for his [...]niquitie, that he hath com­mitted, he shall die for the same.

Ibid. pag. 27. He, who can turne away from his righteous­nesse, can forsake his former righteousnesse; but a righteous man can turne away from his righteousnesse, Ezek. 18. 24. Therefore the righteous can for­sake his former righteousnesse.

Bert. pag. 41. Hee, out of whom the Deuill is cast, may be­come secure, and made a Temple in which the former Deuill ta­king [Page 26] seuen other spirits with him, may be lodged; and so the latter cōdition of that man made worse than the former, Mat. 12. 43. Demonstrat. Hee, out of whom the Deuill is cast, is truly iustified; but such a one may by securitie, and negligence fall in­to an estate worse then the for­mer: therefore he, that is once truly iustified, may fall into an estate worse than the former.

Bert. pag. 36. Among the cau­ses of Apostasie, one is, the feare of persecution; He that receiued the seed in stony places, the same is he, that heareth the Word, and anon with ioy receiueth it: yet hath he not root in himselfe, but dureth for a while, for when tri­bulation ariseth because of the Word, he is offended.

APPEALER.

APpeale, pa. 159. Ezek. 18. 24, 26. If the righ­teous t turne away from his righteousnesse, and commit iniquitie, and doe according vn­to all the abominations that the wicked man doth, shall he liue? All his righteousnesse, that he hath done, shall not be remem­bred: but in his transgression that he hath committed, and in his sinne that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.

Ibid. Ezek. 33. 13. If hee commit iniquity, all his righte­ousnesse shal be no more remem­bred: but for his iniquitie that he hath committed, he shall die for the same. Therefore the righteous may lose his righteous­nesse, abandon his faith, die in his sinne, &c.

Ibid. pag. 159. The vncleane spirit eiected, returneth vnto his former residence, entreth, pos­sedeth [Page 26] his former state, and the case of that man is worse than the beginning, Matth. 12. 44. u Satan is not eiected, but where the partie is in the state of grace with God, being regenerate by faith. Reposseding is not but by relapse into sinne: nor a worse state, but where a man dieth in sinne.

Ibid. pag. 159. Luke 8. 13. * They on the rock are they, who, when they heare, receiue the Word with ioy, who for a while beleeue, and in time of tempta­tion fall away.

t Because this place of Ezekiel is set in the fore-front both by the Appealer, and by Bertius, as a testimony, on which they most rely, and are most confident of; I will endeuour both fully to answer, and retort it a­gainst them. Besides those Answers, by which others haue rebated the edge of this Obiection: As * first, that this speech is conditionall; suppositiue, and not posi­tiue; and therefore no more inferreth that a righteous [Page 27] man may fall from his righteousnesse, then those words of Saint Paul [If an Angell from heauen shall preach vnto you another Gospell, than that you receiued, let him be accursed] conclude, that an Angell from hea­uen can preach another Gospell. Or the like of our Sauiour, [They shall doe signes and wonders to seduce, if it were possible, the Elect] therefore it is possible to seduce the elect; whereas indeed the contrary may be infer­red, euen from those words. Secondly, That the Pro­phet speaketh of him, that is righteous in his owne o­pinion, and before men; but not in the sight of God, such a man may fall away from his righteousnesse; but the question is, of a man regenerate, and truly righte­ous; and such a one cannot turne away from his righte­ousnesse. Of this minde is Saint Gregory Moral. in Iob. lib. 34. cap. 13. They, who may be seduced in such sort, that they neuer returne againe, may seeme to lose the habit of sanctitie before the eyes of men, [sed eam ante oculos Dei nunquam habuerunt] but indeed they neuer had any holinesse in the sight of God. Thirdly, that the Prophet speakes here of actuall righteousnesse, which may be lost, and is lost, by the committing of any wilfull and grieuous sinne against conscience; not of habituall, which cannot be lost [if he doe that which is lawfull and right, Ezek. 18. 21. and 24. If he doth according to all the abominations the wicked man doth, all the righteous­nesse [Page 28] that he hath done shall not be remembred] here is not a word that importeth habituall righteousnesse, but meerely actuall; which, all sides confesse, may be lost. Besides these answers, I say further, that this Scripture no way tendeth to Bertius, or the Appealers purpose. For they should proue, that a iustified man may lose Euangelicall righteousnesse, or the righteousnesse of Faith; not Legall righteousnesse. Now it is euident, that the Prophet speaketh of Legall righteousnesse; First, by the pronoune (his) [if the righteous turne a­way from (his) righteousnesse] that is, the righteous­nesse of his owne workes, or his inherent righteous­nesse: not the imputed righteousnesse of Christ, for that is not his owne, Philip. 3. 9. That I may be found in him, not hauing mine owne righteousnesse, which is of the Law; but the righteousnesse, which is of God by faith. Se­condly, by the enumeration of particulars, vers. 6, 7, 8. 15, 16, 17. all which appertaine to Legall righteous­nesse: If he hath not eaten vpon the mountaines, nor lift vp his eyes to the Idols of the house of Israel, nor come neare to a menstruous woman, and hath spoiled none by violence, and hath not giuen his money vpon vsury, &c. Lastly, this argument may be retorted against the Ad­uersaries two wayes. First thus, If the difference of the Couenant betweene the Law and the Gospell, con­sisteth especially in this, [that the righteousnesse requi­red [Page 29] by the one may be lost, but the righteousnesse pro­mised by the other cannot be lost] then the argument from the losse of Legall righteousnesse to Euangelicall, is of no force, but to disproue our Aduersaries tenent: for that, which in this place of Ezekiel, is affirmed of the one, may not be affirmed of the other: but the dif­ference of the Couenant betweene the Law and the Gospel cōsisteth especially in this, [that the righteous­nesse required by the one may be lost, but the righte­ousnesse promised by the other cannot be lost.] Ierem. 31. 31. 33. 34. Heb. 8. 8. Behold the dayes come that I will make a new Couenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Iudah; not according to the Couenant that I made with their Fathers, &c. but this shall be my Couenant, which I will make with the house of Israel; I will put my Law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts, I will forgiue their iniquitie, and remember their sinne no more. And Ierem. 32. 40. I will make an euerlasting Co­uenant with them, that I will not turne away from them to doe them good; but I will put my feare in their hearts, that they shall not depart from me. Secondly thus: If these words are spoken generally to the children of God, and belong to the elect as well as others, they cannot imply a totall, and finall falling away from righteous­nesse, no not in the iudgement of the Arminians, and Iesuites themselues, with whose Heifer the Appealer [Page 30] plowes: [For as the Iesuites, so Arminius himselfe tea­cheth, [that a man that is elect, and predestinated to eter­nall life, cannot fall finally, nor perish for euer:] But the words of the Prophet Ezekiel are spoken generally vnto all, and belong to the very Elect; therefore I con­clude, in the words of the great Champion of Popery in generall, and of this particular touching the Aposta­sie of Saints, Card. Bellarm. lib. 3. de Iustif. cap. 12. It is true that the predestinated or elected are in no danger of losing eternall life, and that the terrifying threats vsed by the Holy Ghost in the Scriptures, are to this end, to stirre vp the elect to watchfulnesse and diligence; motiues they are to, and meanes of perseuerance, not arguments at all to proue the Saints Apostasie.

u To the place of Matth. 12. 44. we answer; First, we ought not to ground any doctrine of faith vpon a meere parable, or allegory: because [as Saint Augu­stine, in his booke, de Doctrinâ Christianâ, deliuereth it] All those points which belong to faith and manners, are plainly deliuered in the Scriptures. Secondly, we cannot a [...]gue strongly from corporall possession, or disposses­sion, to spirituall: as a Lunaticke man, so a man pos­sessed with the Deuill in body, may be yet in the state of grace in his soule; and in like manner, as a man that is cured of his frensie or lunacie, may be yet an vn­sanctified man; so a man, out of whom the Deuill is [Page 31] cast, from tormenting or possessing the body, may be yet an vnregenerate man, (although, I grant, our Saui­our seldome, or neuer cured any mans body, but first he healed the soule, as some Interpreters haue obser­ued) yet no necessary consequence can be drawn from the health or sicknesse of the body, to the health or sicknesse of the soule. Neither is it said here, that the vncleane spirit was cast out by Christ, nor by any other; but that he went out of himselfe, and returned againe; and therefore this possessed person can be no fit em­bleme of a truly regenerated, and iustified man, out of whom the Deuil is powerfully cast out: and the party is no way vnder him, or in his power, but led by the spi­rit of God, Rom. 8. and wholly deliuered from the power of Satan. Thirdly, the meaning of the Parable is (as appeareth by our Sauiours application) that as the latter state of that man, [out of whom the Deuill first departed, and afterward returned with seuen worse than himselfe] was worse than the former, so it should be with the wicked Iewes, out of whom the vncleane spirit had gone out, for feare of the Law, but now was returned againe vnto them through their refusall of the Gospell, and despiting the Spirit of Grace. Thus Saint Hilary, Ierome, and Bede expound the Parable; and their Exposition is euidently grounded vpon our Sauiours words, vers. 45. Euen so shall it be also vnto [Page 32] this wicked generation. As it is particularly applied by our Sauiour to the Iewes, so it may be to any Nation, out of which the vncleane spirit departeth for a while, or is driuen away by the preaching of the Gospell, if it be empty of good workes, and giuen to the pleasures of this world; like the lodging of the vncleane spirit, which he found empty, swept, and garnished. The vncleane spirit will enter with seuen worse, that is, the Gospell shall be taken away from them, and the Kingdome of Grace, for the abuse of it; and they shall be brought into worse bondage of the Deuill, then before: according to Saint Peter 2 Epist. 2. 20. If after they haue escaped the pollution of the world, through the knowledge of our Lord and Sauiour Iesus Christ, they are againe intangled therein and ouercome, the latter end shall be worse with them than the beginning: for it had beene better for them, not to haue knowne the way of righteousnesse, than after they haue knowne it, to turne away from the holy comman­dement deliuered vnto them. This was the case of the Kingdome of Congo, which for a time embraced the Gospell, but afterwards perceiuing that it restrained their carnall libertie, and no way permitted pluralitie of wiues, they cast off the yoke of Christ, and enthral­led themselues againe to Satan. But it is not so with those that are truly regenerate, for to them his yoke is easie, and his burthen light. Lastly, this obiection may [Page 33] be retorted against the Aduersaries thus;

This Parable is meant of a wicked ge­neration, Matth. 12. 45. an euill, and adul­terous generation, vers. 39. a generation of vipers, vers. 34. such as the Scribes and Pharises were, who in this Parable are reproued by our Sauiour.

But the regenerate children of God are not a wicked, adulterous, or viperous generation, but a chosen generation, a royall Priest-hood, an holy nation, a peculiar peo­ple, 1 Pet. 2. 9.

Therefore this Parable is not meant of the regenerate children of God.

* To the place of Saint Luke 8. 13. and Mat. 13. 20. we answer; First, the heart of a man truly regenera­ted is not compared to a stony ground: for God by regenerating grace takes away our stony heart, and giues vs an heart of flesh, Ezek. 36. 26. Secondly, a temporary faith is not of the same nature with a iustifying faith; a temporary faith hath no root, Matth. 13. 22. and Luke 8. 13. a iustifying faith hath: a temporary faith beareth no fruit, but a iustifying faith beareth fruit, Matth. 13. 23. and Luke 8. 15. Those, who beleeue the Gospell, meerely out of temporary hopes, [because godlinesse hath the promise of this life] they receiue the word with [Page 34] ioy, while they thriue and gaine by it; but when there ariseth trouble and persecution for the Word, they are offended, and fall away: but those who ground their faith vpon the promises of a better life, their faith like gold, (1 Pet. 1. 7.) being tried in the fire, is made much more precious, and found vnto praise, and honour, and glo­ry, at the appearing of Iesus Christ, beleeuing with ioy vn­speakable, and full of glory, receiuing the end of their faith, the saluation of their soules, vers. 8. Their faith differeth from the faith of Hypocrites, and Temporizers, in the cause and kinde; their ioy in the degree; and both in the continuance. Lastly, this obiection may be retor­ted against the Aduersarie: First thus;

They, who are compared vnto the good ground, are not meant here by stony ground:

But truely regenerate Christians and beleeuers, Luke 8. 15. and Matth. 13. 23. are compared to good ground;

Therefore they are not here meant by stony ground.

Secondly, thus;

That faith, which is distinguished from a iustifying faith in this Parable, cannot be taken for the faith of a true re­generate Christian;

[Page 35] But the temporary faith is distingui­shed in this Parable from a iustifying faith;

Therefore the temporary faith can­not be taken for the faith of a true rege­nerate Christian, and consequently, the Appealer, and Arminians are in this their allegation mistaken.

Of Falling away from Grace.

ARMINIANS.

BERTIVS of the Apo­stasie of Saints, pag. 26. Apostasie is described by the phrase [to wax cold] Mat. 24. 12. And because iniquitie shall abound, the loue of many shall x wax cold.

Bertius, pag. 34. The Apo­stle fore-seeing, that the conuer­ted Gentiles might be bewitched with that opinion, [That they could not be cut off from the Church] warneth them, that they wax not proud against the [Page 36] Iewes, but that they learne by their example, that it may come to passe, that they also may bee cast away, Rom. 11. 19. They were broken off, that I might be graft in; through infidelity they were broken off, and, thou stan­dest by faith: be not high min­ded, but y feare.

Bert. pag. 33. I frame the fourth demonstration from the feare of the Saints, Iohn 15. 6. If a man abide not in me, he is cast z forth as a branch, and withereth, and men gather them, and cast them into the fire.

APPEALER.

ANswer to Gag. pag. 160. Matth. 24. 12. Because iniquitie shall abound, the charity of many shall grow cold. Surely it was hot, that groweth cold: and charitie enlarged, is not but the fruit of a liuing faith; which if it conti­nued in statu quo, the charity of many could not x wax cold; therefore once had may bee lost.

Againe, Rom. 11. 20. 21. Thou standest by faith, bee not [Page 36] high minded, but yfeare: and feare is not but where change may be. Here change may be: or why doth it follow? Take heed lest he also spare not thee.

Ibid. pag. 160. Ioh. 15.2. Euery branch that beareth not fruit in me, he taketh z away.

x To the place of Matth. 24. 12. we answer; First, that the loue of many may wax cold; yet will it not there­upon follow, that the loue of the regenerate and true beleeuers waxeth cold: for the regenerate, and true be­leeuers, are not meant by those Many. True charitie is a fruit of faith, and such as the faith is, such is the charitie. If it be a temporary faith, the charity pro­ceeding from it, is but temporary, and being so, may not only wax cold, but also be vtterly extinguished. The root being rotten, the fruit falls of it selfe. But if the root of faith be sound, charitie will neuer decay; but abound more and more, till the childe of God be filled [Page 37] with the fruits of righteousnesse, Philip. 1. 9, 11. Second­ly, the consequence is not good, from a remission of some degree of charitie, to the amission of the habit of it: The Apostles themselues, as they were not so strong in their faith, so neither so hot in their loue to­ward our Sauiour at his Passion, as before. Their faith was shaken in that fearfull storme of temptation; their confidence was small, or none in appearance, in their owne sense: for in saying [we trusted, it had beene hee that should haue redeemed Israel, Luke 24.] they imply, that his death had loosned the Anker of their hope, and that both their heart and faith failed them for the time, their loue also waxed cold, if not freezed, when they fled from him, and forsooke him. Yet no learned Di­uine euer affirmed, that their loue to our Sauiour was quite lost; for as he loued them, so they loued him to the end. Thirdly, this argument may be retorted a­gainst the Aduersaries thus:

If Christ doth here put a difference betweene those that are truly faithfull, and hypocrites, in this; that the one (Hypocrites to wit) should in the latter dayes and perillous times be offended, de­ceiued, wax cold in charity, but the other (the truly faithfull) should continue to the end, then this place maketh not for, but [Page 38] against the totall or finall falling away of true beleeuers.

But Christ in this place puts a diffe­rence between those that are truly faith­full, and hypocrites, in this; that the one (Hypocrites to wit) should in the latter daies and perillous times be offended, de­ceiued, and wax cold in charity, vers. 10, 11, 12. but the other (the truly faithfull) should continue to the end, vers. 13.

Therefore this place maketh not for, but against the total or finall falling a­way of true beleeuers.

y To the place alledged, Rom. 11. 19, 20. we answer: First, that it is not meant of particular beleeuers, and their danger of falling away from iustifying faith; but of the people of the Gentiles in generall, and their dan­ger of being cut off from the true Oliue, into which they were ingrafted, that is, from the outward pro­fession of faith, and communion of the Catholique Church, into which they were admitted vpon the re­iection of the Iewes. The Gentiles therefore ought not to be high-minded against the Iewes, but feare, lest God, who spared not the naturall branches, should not spare them, but cut them off also, as he did the naturall branches, if they should grow proud, and presumptu­ously [Page 39] secure. Now there is no question, but that a Vi­sible Church, which at this time professeth the truth, and is a member of the Catholike Church, may fall a­way from the outward and publike profession of faith, and cease to be a part of the Catholike visible Church; as the most famous, & sometimes flourishing Churches of Greece and Asia, planted by the Apostles themselues, now ouer-run with Mahometanisme, Idolatry, and He­resie, proue by their lamentable Apostasie, and deplo­rate, if not desperate estate. But Bertius and the Appea­ler should haue had their eyes vpon the marke, and point in question; which is not of the doctrine of faith, but the habit of faith; not de fide, quam credimus, but de fide, qua credimus; not of the publique profes­sion of a Church, but of a particular affiance of euery true beleeuer in Christ. A member of the visible Church may be cut off, but no member of the inuisible; for Christ cannot haue, damnata membra, any members, who shall not be saued, as the Approuer of the Appealers booke rightly gathereth out of Saint Augustine, in his Reply to Fisher. A Church, or Kingdome generally may depart from the Christian faith, or renounce the pure profession thereof in publique, and yet no true beleeuer, either totally or finally, lose his faith; but ei­ther secretly in that State or Kingdome, or else-where openly, he may retaine both faith it selfe, and the pro­fession [Page 40] thereof. Secondly, Gods threatnings haue their vse, both in the Elect, and Reprobate; to make the one vnexcusable, or to keepe them within some bounds of moderation; and to keepe the other in an awfull reue­rence, filiall feare, and spirituall watchfulnesse, which are meanes of Perseuerance, no arguments of Apostasie. Feare is not, but where a change may be; to wit, feare of a change; but there may be a feare of offending God through high-mindednesse, and presumption, as was in the Apostles, and is in all the Elect, & yet no change of their estate of grace could or can be, by the confes­sion of Arminius himselfe, and the learned'st of all our Aduersaries. Thirdly, as the faithful ought to feare, so they also might, and de facto would fall away, not on­ly totally, but finally, if they were left to themselues; and therefore, in regard of the frailtie of their nature, and mutabilitie of their owne will, they haue iust cause to feare, and doe still feare in themselues, yet are still confident in God, who is faithfull, and will establish them, and keepe them from euill, 2 Thess. 3. 3. and shall confirme them vnto the end, that they may be blamelesse in the day of our Lord Iesus Christ, 1 Cor. 1. 8. Lastly, this Obiection may be retorted against the Aduersa­rie thus:

That feare, which God promiseth to put into the hearts of true beleeuers, to this end, [Page 41] that they may not fall away from him, is a certaine meanes to preserue true beleeuers in the faith, (else God should faile in his end.)

But the feare here enioyned, is that feare, which God promiseth to put into the hearts of true beleeuers, to this end, that they may not fall away from him, Ierem. 22. 40.

Therefore the feare, here inioyned, is a certaine meanes to preserue true beleeuers in the faith: and consequently a strong ar­gument for the perseuerance of Saints in faith and grace; as it is vrged by Saint Au­gustine in his booke de Perseuer. Sancto­rum, cap. 2. [I will put my feare in their hearts, that they shall not depart from me) What is it else, then to say? the feare shall be such, and so great, that they shall for euer cleaue vnto me.

z To the places alledged, Iohn 15. 2, 5. we answer: First, there is a double insition or ingraffing into Christ; externall, when a man is made a member of the visible Church by the hearing of the Word, and parti­cipation of the Sacraments; internall, when a man by sanctifying grace, and sauing faith, is made a member of the inuisible Church. They, who haue the outward [Page 42] insition only into the true Vine Christ Iesus, may be cut off: but they, which haue the inward as well as the outward insition, cannot be cut off, and wither as a branch; for Non est corpus Christi reuerâ, quod non er it in aeternum; That is not Christs true body, which shall not abide for euer, [neither, by the like reason, is that a true branch, which abideth not for euer in the Vine] August. de Doct. Chri. lib. 3. cap. 32. Which reason of S. Augustine is confirmed by Saint Gregory, in his description of the Church in his Comment on the Canticles, Christus sanctam Ecclesiam de sanctis in aeternum permansuris ex­truxit; Christ hath built his Church of Saints which shall for euer perseuere. Secondly, as there is a double insiti­on into Christ, so there is a double profession of faith; a naked and bare profession without practise of a holy life, or fruit of good workes; or a profession ioyned with practise, a faith working through loue, & bring­ing forth the fruits of the Spirit. By the barren bran­ches cut off, and withered, Theophylact on these words alledged, vnderstandeth those, who make a naked and bare profession: Saint Cyril, in his tenth booke vpon Iohn, Those who haue faith without loue, and good works; such a faith S. Iames in his second Chap. calls a dead faith, but the faith by which the iust man liueth, is a li­uing faith working by loue, Galat. 5. 6. and bringing forth fruit with patience, Luke 8. 15. Thirdly, the words [in [Page 43] me] Iob. 15. 2. may be either referred to the word [Vine] and the meaning is, euery branch existent or ingraffed in me, that beareth no fruit, but leaues only of a bare profession, shall be taken away; or the words [in me] may be referred to bearing of fruit, and the meaning is, euery professour of Religion, or member of any Con­gregation that beleeueth not (in me, and beareth not fruit in me, to wit, the fruits of the Gospell by my grace, shall be cast forth as a dead branch, and wither) for, as it is in the fift verse, Hee that abideth in mee, and I in him, the same bringeth forth fruit: for without me yee can doe nothing. If the words be taken in the former sense, they are meant of Hypocrites within the Church; if in the latter, of Iewes, or Pagans, without the Church; who beare fruit, that is, doe morally good workes, or, doe by nature the things contained in the Law, Rom. 2. 14. but because they doe not these things in faith, their good workes are no better, than splendida peccata, sins hauing a luster, or shew of vertue, as Saint Augustine. Take the words in either sense, they belong not to re­generate persons, and true beleeuers, who are so in­graffed into Christ, that they abide in him by faith, and beare fruit in him through faith. Lastly, this Obiection may be retorted against the Aduersarie, thus:

No branch, that beareth fruit in Christ, shall be taken away, but purged, that it may [Page 44] bring forth more fruit (as it followeth in the second verse vrged by the Aduer­sarie.)

But euery true beleeuer is a branch that beareth fruit in Christ, Matth. 13. 23. Rom 6. 22.

Therefore no true beleeuer shall be taken away, but purged, that he may bring forth more fruit.

ARMINIANS.

BERTIVS, pag. 26. Be­leeuers may make ship­wrake of faith, 1 Tim. 1. 19. some hauing put away a good cōscience, cōcerning a faith, haue made shipwracke.

Ibid. 1 Tim. 4. 1. In the lat­ter times some shall depart from the a faith, giuing heed to se­ducing spirits.

APPEALER.

APPEALE, pag. 160. 1 Tim. 1. 19. Holding faith and a good consci­ence, which some hauing put a­way, cōcerning a faith, haue made shipwracke.

Ibid. Nor was it onely for those times, but foretold of suc­ceeding ages, 1 Tim. 4. 1. In the latter daies some shall depart from the a faith.

a To the places alledged out of Timothy, wee an­swer: First, that they are fully answered by the distin­ction aboue mentioned (ad literamy) namely of a two-fold signification of the word (faith) which is [Page 45] sometimes taken for the saith which we beleeue, that is, the word of faith, or doctrine of the Gospell, as Galath. 1. 23. Now preacheth the faith, which once he de­stroyed, Rom. 10. 8. This is the word of faith, which we preach: the hearing of faith, Galat. 3. 2. A great company of the Priests were obedient to the faith, Act. 6. 7. And in this sense Oecumenius taketh the word (faith) in the first place aboue alledged, [...]: by faith, I vnder­stand faith in doctrine; by conscience, a godly conuersati­on, or a good life. And that it is to be so taken in the latter place, it is euident by the words following, 1 Tim. 4. 1. Giuing heed to seducing spirits, and doctrine of deuils. Faith opposed to error, and doctrine of de­uils, is the true doctrine of faith, which we beleeue and preach. Sometimes the word (faith) is taken in Scrip­ture for the faith by which we beleeue; that is, the in­ward grace, or habit of faith: as Rom. 3. 28. Iustified by faith, without the deeds of the Law. And Rom. 4. 5. His faith is counted for righteousnesse, Rom. 5. 1. Being iu­stified by faith, we haue peace with God. This distincti­on is not new coyned by nouelizing Puritans, but stamped by the ancient Fathers, and goes for current among the Schoole-men. Saint Augustine in his thir­teenth booke of the Trinity, chap. 2. deliuers it in these very termes, There is a difference betweene the faith, quae [Page 46] creditur, and quâ creditur: And Lombard, lib. 3. distinct. 23. taketh the same from Saint Augustine, saying, Fides est interdumid, quod credimus, interdum estid, quo credi­mus. Secondly, we answer, that as there is a tempora­ry faith, so there may be a good conscience for a time, which a man putting away, soone after makes shipwrack concerning faith: that is, either concerning the doctrine of faith, by maintaining errors, (as both Bertius, and the Appealer haue done:) or concerning the act of a temporary faith, by ceasing to beleeue, and professe the faith. Thirdly, it is to be noted, that the Apostle saith not [losing] but [putting away a good conscience] which words may be most properly meant of such, who hold faith, and notwithstanding put away a good conscience; that is, gladly embrace the promise of the Gospell, and remission of their sinnes by faith, but reiect the condi­tion vpon, & end for which grace is offered, Tit. 2. 12. (To deny vngodlinesse, and worldly lusts, and to liue sober­ly, righteously, and godly in this present world) such are all carnall Gospellers, who beleeue well, but liue not accor­dingly. Fourthly, the phrase (making shipwracke) doth not import the vtter losse of faith; for many things, that fall out of the ship by wrack, are recouered again, and saued; and therefore Tertullian, in his book de Poe­nitentiâ, elegantly calleth repentance Tabulam post nau­fragium, A board, or broken peece of the ship, on which [Page 47] after ship wracke a man may, as they did Act. 27. 44. Escape safe to land: Pleri (que) naufragio liberati, exinde re­pudium & naui & mari dicunt, & Dei beneficium, salu­tem suam scil: memoriâ periculi honorant; Most men, that haue escaped in shipwrack, renounce both ship and sea, and, by remembrance of their former danger, more highly prize Gods benefit, and their saluation, Lastly, this Obiection may be retorted against the Aduersary, thus.

If those, who are here said to make ship­wracke of faith, are not to be thought, to haue fallen away finally from grace and sal­uation, but rather the contrary, then this place maketh nothing for the finall Aposta­sie of true beleeuers:

But those, who are here said to make ship­wracke of faith, are not to be thought, to haue fallen away finally from grace and sal­uation, but rather the contrary;

Therefore, this place maketh nothing for the finall Apostasie of true beleeuers.

The first Proposition is euident; the Assumption is thus confirmed:

Those who were deliuered to Satan by the Apostle for their amendment, and that their spirit might be saued in the day of the Lord Iesus, are not to be thought to haue fal­len [Page 48] finally from grace and saluation.

But those, who are here said to make ship­wracke of faith, (to wit, Hymeneus and Alexander) were deliuered to Satan by the Apostle, for their amendment, 1 Tim. 1. 20. and that their spirit might be saued in the day of the Lord Iesus, 1 Cor. 5. 5.

Therefore those, who are here said to make shipwracke of faith, are not to bee thought, to haue fallen finally from grace, and saluation.

ARMINIANS.

BERTIVS, pag. 25. A­postasie is proued by this phrase of Scripture to fall away from grace, Galath. 5. 4. Whosoeuer of you are iustified by the Law, yee are fallen b from grace.

Bertius, pag. 29. 2 Pet. 2. 20. For if, after they haue esca­ped the pollutions of the world, through the knowledge of the Lord and Sauiour Iesus Christ, they are again c intangled there­in and ouercome, the latter end is worse with them, than the be­ginning. [Page 49] For it had beene better for them not to haue knowne the way of righteousnesse, than after they haue knowne it, to turne from the holy commandement giuen vnto them. But it is hap­ned vnto them according to the true prouerbe: The dogge is tur­ned to his owne vomit againe, and the sow that was washed, to her wallowing in the mire.

Bert. pag. 12. To Saints ir­recouerable destructiō is threat­ned, Heb. 6. 4. It is impossible for those, who were once inlight­ned, and haue tasted of the hea­uenly gift, and were made par­takers of the holy Ghost, & haue tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come; if they d fall away, to renue them againe vnto repentance: seeing they crucifie to them­selues the Sonne of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

APPEALER.

APPEALE, pag. 160. Galat. 5. 4. Saint Paul spake not vpon supposi­tion of impossibilitie, yee are abo­lished from Christ, whosoeuer are iustified by the Law, yee are fallen from b grace.

Ibidem, pag. 160. 161. Nor in point of onely Heresie wa [...] faith by them lost, but also of good liuing and conuersation, 2 Pet. 2. 20. where those that had escaped the filthinesse of the world; therefore washed, and made cleane, through the know­ledge [Page 49] of our Lord and Sauiour Iesus Christ; therefore iustified truly by saith: are yet c intang­led againe therein, and ouer­come. Therefore lapsed from faith, as is expressed, vers. 21, and 22. ensuing.

Ibid. pag. 164. Beside, if faith had cannot be lost, the dog cannot be said to returne vnto his vomit, nor the swine to wal­lowing in the mire.

Idem, pag. 161. I adde but one of them, Heb. 6. 4. It is im­possible, that they which were once enlightned, and haue tasted of the heauenly gift, and were made partakers of the holy Ghost, and haue tasted of the good word of God, and of the power of the world to come, (if these were not iustified, they know not who were: if these had no faith, where was it to be found) if they d fall away, should be renued a­gaine by repentance: seeing they crucifie againe the Sonne of God vnto themselues, and make a mocke of him.

b To the place Galath. 5. 4. wee answer: First, the maine scope and drift of the Apostle, is to confute [Page 50] those among the Galathians, who went about to ioyne Iudaisme with Christianisme, Legall righteousnesse with Euangelicall: these the Apostle shewes cannot stand together. For the one consisteth in the perfect fulfilling of the Law, Rom. 10. 5. the other in forgiuenesse of sinnes, Rom. 4. 7. The proper meaning therefore of the words is, that whosoeuer seekes for iustification by the Law, that is, the workes of the Law, is fallen from grace, that is, hath lost his claime by the couenant of grace, or is excluded from all hope of obtaining mercy and grace; for such a one is become a debtor to the whole Law, that is, cannot bee iustified, to wit, by the couenant of workes, vnlesse hee fulfill the whole Law, which no man is able to doe. Secondly, Grace is sometime ta­ken for a reward of free gift, and so it is opposed to merit; sometime it is taken for supernaturall habits in­fused, putting a man in grace and fauour with God, or making him gratious, and so it is opposed to na­ture; sometime it is taken for the doctrine of free re­mission of sinnes by Christ, or couenant of grace, and so it is opposed to the Law, or couenant of works: and that it is taken in the last sense in this place, is euident by the antecedents, and consequents, and the very op­position to the Law in this fourth verse, Gal. 5. Third­ly, admit the word (Grace) were here taken for the grace of regeneration, or iustification, as the Aduer­saries [Page 51] would haue it, yet the Text maketh nothing for them; for it is not said, that the Galathians fell from grace totally, or finally; although in that particular error of theirs, in retaining the Legall ceremonies, and vrging Circumcision, they in effect, and by conse­quent ouerthrew a maine doctrine of the Gospel, tou­ching iustification by faith in Christ. Lastly, this Ob­iection may be retorted against the Aduersarie, thus:

Whosoeuer teach, and beleeue iustificati­on on by the Law, or inherent righteousnesse, are fallen from grace, and refuted by this text of the Apostle.

The Aduersarie teacheth and beleeueth iustification by the Law, or inherent righ­teousnesse; see the precedent tablet, Art. of iustification.

Therefore the Aduersary is fallen from grace, and refuted by this text of the A­postle.

c To the place alledged out of Saint Peter 2. Epist. 2. Chap. 20. We answer: First, Saint Peter speakes not of true beleeuers, but of false teachers, who priuily brought in damnable heresies, euen denying the Lord that bought them, verse 1. These [though they had escaped the filthinesse of the world through the knowledge of Christ, that is, the practise of grosse [Page 52] idolatry, called in Scripture Spirituall fornication and vncleannesse; and had kept themselues from other foule, and enormous sinnes of the flesh euen against nature, wherein the blinde idolaters of the world were intangled] yet were neuer inwardly, and throughly washed and cleansed, especially from the pollutions of the heart. The Apostle compareth them to swine, which after they are washed, (that is, outwardly) wal­low againe in the mire, because they retaine still their swinish nature: so these, after they had receiued the knowledge of Christ, and outwardly conformed themselues to the Gospell, and cleansed themselues from grosse actuall sinnes, returne to their former fil­thinesse, as naturall bruit beasts, made to be taken and de­stroyed, vers. 12. Secondly, a man may be intangled againe in the pollutions of the world, and relapsed in­to foule sins (as some of Gods Saints haue beene) yea as enormous as any he committed before his conuer­sion, and yet not fall totally or finally from grace, as shall be shewed hereafter. Lastly, this Obiection may be retorted against the Aduersary, thus:

None, that are, or were true beleeuers, are wells without water, [For he that belee­ueth, out of his belly flow riuers of liuing water, Iob. 7. 38.]

Those spoken of by S. Peter are wels with­out water, vers. 17.

Therefore those spoken of by Saint Peter, are not, nor were true beleeuers.

Or thus:

None of the regenerate are dogges, or swine; [For holy things, and pearles are gi­uen to them, which may not be giuen to dogs, or cast before swine, Matth. 7. 6.]

Those, whom Saint Peter speakes of, are dogs and swine, vers. 22.

Therefore those, whom S. Peter speakes of, are not regenerate.

And so this text of Scripture is nihil ad rhom­bum; and the Aduersaries argue worse and worse, (It being happened vnto them, ac­cording to the true prouerb, (ab equis ad asi­num) mentioned vers. 16. which beast, and the Rider, whether they are not a perfect impresse and embleme of the Bertius a pension in France, [...] sooke the truth, and [...] at this pre­sent a Popish Apos [...]ata. Aduersarie, I refer it to the intelligent Reader of that Motto, ver. 15. [HAVE FORSAKEN THE RIGHT WAY, FOLLOWING THE WAY OF BA­LAAM, THE SONNE OF BOSOR, WHO LOVED THE WAGES OF VNRIGH­TEOVSNES.

d To the place alledged, Heb. 6. 4. weanswer: First, It is not affirmed (as Whitaker learnedly obserueth in [Page 54] Cygneâ Cantio:) that those, who were inlightned &c. doe fall away, but, if they fall away, they cannot be re­nued by repentance. Which note of that Swan sweetly accordeth with the words of the Apostle himselfe in this Chapter, vers. 9. But beloued, we are perswaded bet­ter things of you, and things that accompany saluation, though we thus speake. May not I iustly apply the words of Saint Cyprian, against Nouatus, to the Aduersarie Bertius, (Scindis, sicut ipse scissus es,) As thou art cut off, and hast made a rent in the Church, so thou cut­test, and would'st make a rent in the Scripture, by ta­king a part by it selfe to serue thy turne, contrary to the coherence and scope of the whole? Secondly, in­lightning grace doth not necessarily import renuing and sanctifying grace; nor tasting the heauenly gift, eating the bread of life, Ioh. 6. and being filled therewith, Matth. 5. 6. nor partaking of the holy Ghost, being led by the holy Ghost, Rom. 8. much lesse sealed with it, Eph. 1. 13. as all true regenerate Christians are. The Aduer­saries might haue learned out of Gratian. de poenit. dist. 2. It is one thing to taste the gift, and powers of the world to come; another, to haue them rooted in the heart: Aliud affici pro tempore, aliud perfici, & obsignari in vitam aeternam: One thing, to be moued, or affected for a time, as Herod was at the hearing of Iohn the Bap­ [...]ist; another thing, to be perfectly sanctified, and sea­led [Page 55] to eternall life, as are all true beleeuers, 2 Cor. 1. 22. Ephess. 4. 30. Lastly, this Obiection may be retorted against the Aduersary, thus:

No regenerate childe of God can commit the sinne vnto death, 1 Ioh. 5. 17. 18.

The Apostle here speakes of those that commit (or at least may commit) the sinne vnto death.

Therefore the Apostle speakes not here of any regenerate childe of God.

ARMINIANS.

BERTIVS, pag. 114. 1 Cor. 10. 12. Let him that thinketh he standeth, take heed lest he e fall.

Idem, pag. 116. Philip. 2. 12, 13. Worke out your salua­tion with feare and f trembling, for it is God which worketh in you both to will, and to do, of his good pleasure.

APPEALER.

ANswer to Gag. pag. 164. If righteousnesse had, cannot be lost, why should hee admonish as hee doth, He that standeth, let him take heed lest he e fall?

Ibidem. And worke out your saluation with feare and f trembling.

e To the place alledged, 1 Cor. 10. 12. we answer: First, though the regenerate, and iustified mans estate be certaine, yet is it certaine by the vse of such meanes as God hath appointed; whereof spirituall watchful­nesse [Page 56] and care, to which the Apostle here exhorteth, is a principall. The Apostles estate was certaine, for Christ saith, Luke 10. 20. Reioyce, because your names are writ­ten in heauen. And Iohn 17. 12. Those that thou gauest me, I haue kept, and none of them is lost, but the sonne of perdition. Yet he commandeth them to watch and pray, that they enter not into temptation, Matth. 26. 41. And he prescribeth a forme of prayer to be vsed by them, and vs, continually, [Lead vs not into temptation] Mat. 6. 13. The souldiers, and passengers estate, who were in the ship with Paul, Act. 27. 24. was safe, and sure, be­cause God had giuen Saint Paul all them that sailed with him: Yet were they to vse the helpe of the shipmen to saue their liues, and vnlesse they had so done, they had perished, vers. 31. Except these abide in the ship, yee can­not be saued. Secondly, the Apostles words are to be noted, who saith not, Let him that standeth, but, let him that thinketh he standeth. A man may thinke hee standeth, though indeed he standeth not; as those that killed the Apostles, did thinke that they did God good ser­uice, Iohn 16. 2. The Pharisie thought that he was ra­ther iustified, than the Publican, yet he was not. Saint Paul thought he had done a worke acceptable to God, and aduantagious to the true Church, when he perse­cuted the Saints, and made hauocke of the Church. The heart of man is deceitfull aboue all things, as it [Page 57] deceiueth others, so sometimes our selues also. Wee may conceiue that we are highly in Gods fauour, and a great way toward heauen, when yet indeed we are cast backe, or stand at a stay. It is therefore a speciall point of wisdome, to examine our spirituall estate, and proue whether we are in the faith, or no; that is, whe­ther we stand indeed, or thinke onely that we stand: for he that thinketh only that he standeth, and hath no sure footing, nor ground of his perswasion, may fall, and that irrecouerably. Thirdly, He that standeth may fall, yet not totally, or finally. A man may fall, and yet not bee hurt by his fall; a man may be hurt, and that dangerously, by a fall, and yet not die of that hurt; Though he fall, he shall not be vtterl [...] cast downe: for the Lord vpholdeth hi [...] with his hand Psal. 37. 24. Iustus cadit, non tamen excidit. The righteous fal­leth seuen times a day; Si cadit, quomodo iustus? si iustus, quomodo cadit? If he fall, how is he righteous? if righte­ous, how doth he fall? Saint Ierome answereth, sed iusti vocabulum non amittit, qui semper per poenitentiam resur­git; He loseth not the name of righteous, who, as often as he falls by sinne, riseth againe by repentance, Epist. 44. Lastly, this Obiection may be retorted against the Aduersarie, thus:

None of those, whom God preserues from being ouercome, in temptation, can fall total­ly, or finally.

Those whom Saint Paul aduiseth to take [Page 58] heed lest they fall, are such, whom God pre­serues from being ouercome in temptation; in the next verse, 1 Cor. 10. 13.

But God is faithfull, who will not suffer you to be tempted aboue that you are able: but wil with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to beare it.

Therefore, those whom Saint Paul ad­uiseth to take heed lest they fall, cannot fall totally, or finally.

f To the place alledged Phil. 2. 12. we answer: First, that the argument drawne from the feare of Gods Saints, hath beene before refuted, and retorted, in the handling that text of the Apostle [Be not high-minded, but feare.] Secondly, we answer, Feare is not here op­posed to religious confidence, but to carnall security, and presumption. The trembling here commanded, is an awfull reuerence, and filiall trembling, not a ser­uile affrighting: this feare and trembling, is not only ioyned with assured hope, that God will worke both the will and the deed in them that so feare, vers. 13. but also with ioy, Psal. 2. 11. Serue the Lord with feare, and reioyce with trembling. Feare cannot be here taken for a distrustfull feare, or a feare of being damned, but of a sollicitous and watchfull feare; for this were no good consequence, God worketh in you the will and the [Page 59] deed, therefore feare, that is, doubt and distrust your saluation; but vse all diligence to make your election sure, and be carefull to stirre vp God his grace in you, and to call on him continually in all humblenesse of minde, for the assistance of his Spirit, without which you can neither doe, nor will any good. This grace and assistance of his Spirit God promiseth to none, but to the humble, and such as tremble at his word, Esay 66. 2. Why doth the Apostle say, Aug. [...] turd & [...], cont. Pel [...]g. cap. 27. saith Saint Augu­stine, worke out your saluation with feare and trembling, and not rather with securitie, if God worke it? vnlesse because in regard of our will, without which we cannot well worke, it may soone come into mans heart, to esteeme that which he doth well, to be his owne worke, and say, I shall neuer be remoued? therefore he, who gaue power to his will, turned his face for a while frō him, that he which said so might be troubled; quoniam ipsis est ille tumor sanandus doloribus: Because that swelling pride is to be healed with very sorrowes of a troubled minde. Lastly, this Obiecti­on may be retorted against the Aduersarie, thus:

None, in whom God worketh both the will to perseuere and deed, can fall totally, or fi­nally.

In those, whom Saint Paul here adui­seth to worke out their saluation with feare and trembling, God worketh both the [Page 60] will to perseuere, and deed, Philip. 2. 13.

Therefore those, [...] whom Saint Paul here aduiseth to worke out their saluation with feare and trembling, cannot fall totally, or finally.

ARMINIANS.

BERTIVS, pag. 28. The Scriptures relate this to haue come to passe in the Angels, Iude 6. And the An­gels which kept not their first estate, but left their owne habi­tation, he hath reserued in euer­lasting chaines vnder darknesse, vnto the iudgement of the great day.

Ibid. In our first Parents: for Adam being holy & created after Gods owne image, yet was by his wife drawne to fall: yea and the craftic serpent dece [...]ued his holy wife, 2 Cor. 11. 3.

Idem, pag. 30. That which befell the blessed Angels, and A­dam and Eue in the state of in­nocencie, that may befall any Saint now; but it is certaine the holy Angels fel, and our first Pa­rents: therefore any Saint may forsake his owne righteousnesse.

APPEALER.

ANswer to Gag, pag. 161. Thus Scripture speaketh plaine. Their reasons from Scripture are eui­dent. Man is not likely in state of grace to be of an higher g al­loy than Angels were in state of Glory, than Adam Was in state of Innocencie: For Grace is but a conformity thereto, and no con­formitie exceedeth the Archi­type: At most it is but an equa­litie thereto: and equals are of the same proportion. Now if Adam in Paradise, and Luci­fer in Heauen, did fall and lose their Originall estate, the one totally, the other eternally, what greater assurance hath any man in state of Proficiencie, not of Consummation?

g To the instance in Lucifer and Adam, we answer: First, that though man in the state of Proficiency be not simply in an happier estate, and better then Adam in Paradise, much lesse then Lucifer in Heauen, yet he may haue, and hath a greater assurance of his estate then they had. Aug. de Cor. rep. & Gra [...]. cap. 11. Saint Augustine confidently affirmeth, That the grace which was giuen by the second Adam, ex­ceeds that which was giuen to the first Adam, in that it was more powerfull; Haec potentior est in secundo Adam, prima est enim quâ sit [...]t habeat homo iustitiam, si velit; secunda plus potest, quâ sit vt velit, tantum (que) velit, & tanto ardore diligat, vt carnis voluntatem contraria con­cupiscentem voluntate Spiritus vincat. And againe, Primo homini, Aug. ibid. cap. 12. qui in eo bono, quo factus fuerat rectus, ac­ceperat posse non peccare, posse non mori, posse ipsum bo­num non deserere, datum est adiutorium perseuer antiae, non quo fieret vt perseueraret, sed sine quo per liberum arbi­trium perseuerare non posset. Nunc vero sanctis in reg­num Dei per gratiam praedestinatis non tantum tale adiu­torium perseuerantie datur, sed tale, vt ijs perseuerantia ipsa donetur; non solum vt sine isto dono perseuerantes esse non possint, verumetiam vt per hoc donum non nisi perse­uerantes sint. Secondly, from Gods dealing with the Angels that kept not their first estate, but &c. to his dea­ling with man after his fall, no good president can be taken; for it is certaine, God prouided a Redeemer for [Page 62] man, but none for them. (As the Angels sin was grea­ter, so their iudgement was more heauy, and losse irre­parable.) Neither is the consequence good from A­dams losse of his estate of Innocency to the like possibi­litie of the regenerates losse of their estate of Grace; because God made no euerlasting * Esay [...]4▪ 8. couenant of peace with Adam before his fall, as he did since with the regenerate in Christ the Peace-maker. He made no such promise to Adam before his fall, as he hath made to his Church since, that Hell gates should not preuaile against her. Adam had no Mediator before his fall to pray for his perseuerance in the state of Innocencie; but the faithfull and truly regenerate haue the effectu­all prayers of Christ the Mediator for their perseue­rance in faith and grace; * [...]. 22. 32. I haue prayed for thee Peter, that thy faith faile not: And, * Iohn 17. 1 [...], 20. I pray that thou shouldest keepe them from the euill: neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall beleeue on me through their word. Thirdly, Adam in Paradise stood by the power of his owne free-will, and naturall integrity; but the regenerate are now kept by supernaturall grace, and the * [...] power of God through faith vnto saluation; and therefore, albeit Lucifer in Heauen, and Adam in Para­dise, who stood meerely of themselues, fell from their first estate, it is no consequent that the regenerate may in like manner fall from their estate, who stand not by [Page 63] themselues, but by Christ, and are supported by God. Lastly, this Obiection may be retorted against the Aduersary, thus:

If the state of Creation and Redemption differ especially in this, that men and Angels in the state of creation had power to perse­uere, if they would, but not will; and men in the state of redemption haue not only power, but also will giuen them to perseuere, and grace by which they cannot but perseuere; then the argument, drawne from the totall fall of Adam, and finall of Lucifer, to the totall and finall falling away of the regene­rate, maketh nothing for, but strongly a­gainst the Aduersary:

But the state of Creation and Redempti­on differ especially in this, that men and An­gels in the state of Creation had power to perseuere, if they would, but not will; and men in the state of Redemption haue not on­ly power, but also will giuen them to perse­uere, and grace by which they cannot but perseuere, as hath beene proued.

Therefore the Argument, drawne from the totall fall of Adam, and finall of Luci­fer, to the totall and finall falling away of [Page 64] the regenerate, maketh nothing for, but strongly against the Aduersary.

ARMINIANS.

BERTIVS, pag. 28. Of Saul what saith the Scripture? 1 Sam. 9. 2. The sonne of Kish, whose name was h Saul, an elect and good man, and there was not of the sonnes of Israel a good man be­yond him. Yet of him chap. 15. 11. we reade; It repenteth me that I haue made Saul King: for he is turned backe from fol­lowing me.

Bert. ibid. ex Cypriano Epist. 7. i Salomon, Saul, and many others, while they wal­ked in the wayes of the Lord, could haue held the grace giuen to them: but departing from the ordinance of God, grace departed from them.

APPEALER.

ANswer to Gag, pag. 162. h Saul was at the first the childe of God, called according to the ele­ction of grace; not only tempo­rall for the kingdome of Israel, but also eternall for the heauenly kingdome. In opinion of Anti­quity thus he was: and yet after­ward he fell, it is confessed; to­tally all say: eternally these say, that maintaine iustifying faith cannot be lost.

Ibidem. But if Saul were not of Gods children in grace, in­dued with faith, and the holy Spi­rit: yet i Salomon was there is no question with them, because he was a writer of holy Writ, and wrote as he was inspired by God. If they did not grant it, the Scripture would euict it, 2 Sam. 7. 12. yet Salomon fell, as Saint Augustine and Saint Chrysostome are cleare for it, at least temporally and totally too, when he serued other gods.

h To the first instance in Saul, we answer▪ First with * Cap. de [...] Melancthon, that Saul seemed to be a faithfull man, but the euent sheweth that he was an hypocrite. He was in­deed chosen to the Kingdome of Israel, but not to the Kingdome of Heauen, by the Appealers leaue: there is no syllable in Scripture importeth so much; hee was in­deed indued with the Spirit of Gouernment, and the Spirit of Prophecie, but not with the Spirit of Regene­ration for ought appeares in Scripture: hee might be, and, as most thinke, he was, among those to whom that speech of our Sauiour might be applied, Mat. 7. 22, 23. Many shall say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, haue we not pro­phecied in thy name? &c. & then will I professe vnto them, I neuer knew you: Depart from me, ye that worke iniqui­tie. Secondly, we answer, The words alledged by Ber­tius, 1 Sam. 9. 2. speake of the lineaments of his body, and proper personage, not of the inward vertues of his minde, or graces of his soule [There was not a goodlyer, the text saith not a godlyer, person than hee; from the shoulders, and vpward, he was higher than any of the peo­ple] To argue from stature to grace, from the bodie to the soule, from proceritie to sinceritie, from a cor­ruptible crowne, to an incorruptible, is scopam dissolu­tam facere, to make a besome without a band, or to make a rope of sands. Lastly, this Obiection may be retorted against the Aduersarie, thus:

[Page 66] The gifts and calling by God of the rege­nerate are without repentance, Rom. 11. 29.

Sauls gifts and calling by God were not without repentance; for the text saith, 1 Sam. 15. 11. God repented him, that he had made Saul King, &c.

Therefore Sauls gifts and calling were not the calling and gifts of the regenerate.

i To the second instance in Salomon wee answer: That Salomon was indeed a childe of God, and is called the beloued of the Lord, because the Lord loued him in­deed, 2 Sam. 7. 12. But we deny, that he fell from grace either totally, or finally. Hee was a type of Christ, a pen-man of the holy Ghost; God threatned grieuous­ly to scourge him for his sinnes, yet promised withall neuer quite to cast him off. His fall, I confesse, was grieuous, but his repentance in his booke of the Prea­cher sheweth that the seed of God still remained in him, as it doth in all the children of God, 1 Ioh. 3. 9. This seed, because it is immortall, 1 Pet. 1. 23. preserueth eue­ry childe of God, in whom it remaineth, from eternall death. Lastly, this Argument may be retorted against the Aduersary, thus:

If God withdrew not his louing kindnesse vtterly from Salomon, Salomon fell not from grace totally, nor finally.

[Page 67] God withdrew not his louing kindnesse vtterly from Salomon:

Therefore Salomon fell not from Grace totally, nor finally.

The first proposition is manifest; for vtterly & totally are termes equiualent, and it is certain, that whosoeuer falleth not totally, cānot fall finally. The second propo­sition may be deduced out of Psa. 89. 31, 32, 33, 34, 35.

ARMINIANS.

BERTIVS, pag. 96. citeth Tertullian, Praescrip. c. 3. Estne hoc mirum, vt k probatus aliquis retro po­stea excidat? Saul bonus prae caeteris liuore postea euerti­tur. Salomon omni gratiâ & sapientiâ donatus à domino ad idololatriam à mulieribus inducitur, &c.

Bert. pag. 98. alledgeth l Cy­prian. Epist. 7. Adhuc in sae­culo sumus &c. As yet we are in the world &c. Parum est adipisci aliquid potuisse; plus est quod adeptus es posse ser­uare: sicut & fides ipsa, & na­tiuitas salutaris, non accepta, sed custodita vi [...]ificat. Nec statim consecutio, sed con­summatio hominē Deo ser­uat, &c. Salomon denique & [Page 68] Saul & caeteri multi quamdiu in vijs domini ambulauerunt datam sibi gratiam tenere potuerunt; recedente ab ijs disciplinâ Dominicâ recessit & gratia &c.

Bert. pag. 99. 100. produceth Nazianzen: m Deus his quidē lumen est, illis autem ignis, &c. God is a light to some, but to others a fire, &c. Quid vero deprehendimus in Saul? Vn­ctus erat, & spiritum recepe­ra [...], [...]rat (que) tune spiritalis &c. Postea verò non totum se praebuit spiritui, ne (que) purè, sed in alium conuersus est vi­rum, &c. What finde wee in Saul? Hee was anointed, and made partaker of the holy Spi­rit: yet for all that afterward he suffered not himselfe to bee wholly and entirely directed by the Spirit, nor became perfectly and sincerely another man.

Ber. pag. 101. citeth Au­gustine lib. 11. de Ciuitat. Dei, [...] 12. n The Saints though they are certaine of the reward of their perseuerance, yet are found to be vncertaine of their perse­uerance.

Bert. pag. 102. August. de [Page 69] Correp. & Grat. cap. 5. o Si iam regeneratus & iustifica­tus in malam vitam suâ vo­luntate relabitur, certè non potest dicere, Non accepi: quia acceptam gratiam Dei suo in malum libero amisit arbitrio. If a regenerate and iu­stified man doth willingly re­lapse into an euill life, he cannot say, I haue not receiued; because he hath lost the grace of God, which he receiued by his owne will free to euill.

Bert. pag. 102. Prosper. Re­spons. 7. ad capit. Gallorum. p It is proued by many lamētable examples, That some of the re­generate in Christ Iesus forsa­king faith and good manners, did fall away from God, and ended their wicked life in this their Auersion from him.

APPEALER.

ANswer to Gag. p. 166. citeth Tertullian, Prae­script. c. 3. Et hoc mi­rum opinor? &c. As if it were a thing so strange, that any man k approued by God should after­ward relapse from grace. Saul a man better than the rest was ouer-taken, & vndone at length through enuy. Dauid was a good man, & according vnto the Lords heart, yet afterward guil­tie of murther and adultery. Sa­lomon endued with all grace and wisdome from the Lord, was by women brought ouer vnto idolatry. For why? It was reserued vnto the Sonne of God alone to be without sinne.

Answer to Gag, pag. 167. saith, l Cyprian is through for this point, Epist. 7. Parum [Page 68] est adipisci potuisse aliquid, &c. It is a small matter to ob­taine any thing, it is a greater to keepe that which thou hast obtai­ned, euen as faith it selfe, and that healthfull birth not recei­ued, but retained, doth quicken. Neither doth attaining, but con­summation keepe a man for God &c. Salomon, and Saul, and many other, so long as they wal­ked in the wayes of the Lord, could retaine the grace giuen them, but when the discipline or feare of the Lord departed from them, grace also departed.

Answer to Gag. pag. 168. saith thus; And in Nazianzen too, Apolog. ad Patrem, p. 37. who writeth thus of Saul, &c. m Anointed he was, & made par­taker of the holy Spirit, and then at that time was spirituall, &c. yet for all that, because he suffe­red not himselfe to bee wholly and entirely directed by the Spi­rit, nor became perfectly, and sincerely another man; what need I relate the Tragicall end which he vnder-went?

Appeale, pag. 27. Augu­stine of the City of God, booke the eleuenth, chap. 12. n Licet [Page 69] sancti de suae perseuerantiae praemio certi funt, de ipsâ ta­men perseuerantiâ suâ repe­riuntur incerti, &c.

Appeale pag. 27. For the Tenet of Antiquitie I cannot be challenged. Saint Augustine, and after him Saint Prosper, affirme more than M. Monta­gue hitherto hath done. Saint August. lib. 1. de Bon. Perseuer. cap. 6. Si autem regeneratus & iustificatus in malam vi­tam suâ voluntate relabitur, non potest dicere non acce­pi; quia acceptam Gratiam Dei suo in malum libero a­misit arbitrio.

Appeale p. 27. Prosper Resp. 7. ad ca. Gallorum. p Ex Regene­ratis in Christo Iesu, quos­dam Relictâ Fide, & pijs mo­ribus, APOSTATARE A DEO, & impiam vitam in suâ AVERSIONE [...]inire, multis (quod dolendum est) proba­tur exemplis.

k To the place alledged out of Tertullian, wee an­swer: First, The Appealer falsly translates the words of Tertullian, whose words are not (probatus (à Deo) a man approued (by God:) but simply (probatus) that [Page 70] is, a man approued, or well thought of; as probatus Author, an approued Author, or generally well esteemed. And that by (probatus) he meant not approued by God, his words following in the same Chapter seeme to me to make euident, his words are about seuen lines after, Tu vt homo extrinsecus vnumquem (que) nosti; putas quod vi­des, vides autem quous (que) oculos habes, sed oculi sunt Do­mini alti; Homo in faciem, Deus in praecordia contempla­tur; ideo cognoscit Dominus qui sint eius. Thou as man knowest euery man by the outside, thou thinkest that to be which thou seest; thou seest as farre as thou hast eyes, but the Lords eyes are high: man looketh on the face, God be­holdeth the heart; therefore the Lord knoweth who are his. Secondly, the instances of Tertullian are of a different kinde. Saul and Salomon were not alike: Salomon a glorious type of Christ; Saul rather of Antichrist. Sa­lomon is called by the holy Ghost Iedidiah, beloued of God. Saul neuer was so called: Saul therefore might fall totally, and finally; but for Salomon wee resolue with the Reuerend and excellently learned Bishop of Sarisbury in the words of Tertullian himselfe; [...]obert Abbot in Diatribam Tho [...]sand. Tertullian. de fugd. Salo­mon in lapsu gratiam fidei remisit, actum intermisit, habi­tum non amisit; motum (que) fuit in co spiritualis vitae robur, non amotum; concussum, non excussum: There was in Sa­lomons fall a remission or abatement of the grace of faith, an intermission of the act, not an amission of the habit; the [Page 71] strength and vigour of his spirituall life was moued in him, not remoued: shaken, but not shaken out, or quite lost, Ter­tullian speakes of Peter, but it may be applied as well to Dauid and Salomon, who are not said here to haue lost grace totally, and finally, but to haue fallen into grieuous sinnes, the one into adultery, the other into idolatry. And, notwithstanding Dauids fall, that hee retained the Spirit of Grace in him, it is manifest out of that prayer of his in the 51. Psalme, Renoua spiritum rectum intra me, Renew a right Spirit within me, vers. 10. Spiritum sanctum ne recipias àme; Take not thy holy Spi­rit from me, vers. 11. Establish me with thy free Spirit, vers. 12. These prayers of that holy Prophet shew, that Dauid in his grieuous fall lost the comfort of Gods Spi­rit, vers. 12. and the free and quickning motions there­of: and therefore he humbly desires a renouation, and confirmation of the Spirit, but not a new donation there­of. That, which he prayes to God not to take from him, certainly he had in some degree, when he so prayed, Take not thy Spirit from me. As for Salomons recouery after his fall, we haue the testimonies of Gregory of Neocaesarea, Cyril of Ierusalem, Hilary, Ierome, Ambrose, Aquinas, Bonauenture, Hugo Cardinalis, Petrus Comestor, Paulus Burgensis, Carthusian, Soto, Genebrard, Serarius, Delrius, Lorinus, and many other cited to our hands by Caleb Dalichampius student in Scedan, in his booke [Page 72] intituled Vinditiae Salomonis. Lastly, this place of Ter­tullian, de praescript. cap. 3. If it had beene entirely cited by the Appealer, would haue vtterly ouerthrown that, for which it is cited. If those words (nemo autem Chri­stianus, alledged by the Appealer) nisi qui ad finem per­seuerauerit; That no man is a Christian, but he that per­seueres to the end) wound not the Appealers Tenet; yet the words following in the end of this very Chapter cut the very throat thereof: Miramur de Ecclesijs eius si à quibusdam deseruntur, quum ea nos ostendunt Christia­nos, quae patimur ad exemplumipsius Christi: ex nobis, in­quit, prodierunt, sed non fuerunt ex nobis; si fuissent ex no­bis, permansissent vti (que) nobiscum. Maruell we if some forsake the Churches of Christ, whereas those those things which we suffer after the example of Christ doe manifest vs to be Christians: They went out from vs, but they were not of vs: for if they had beene of vs, they would no doubt haue continued with vs, saith Saint Iohn, 1 Epist. 2. 19. In this allegation, as many other in his booke, the Appea­ler resembles the Cappuchin Friers; who, when they haue gathered great store of meat at rich mens doores, I know not out of what blinde superstition, they eat the worst, and leaue the best, and daintiest meat, and vain-gloriously put it into the Almes-box, and giue it to beggers at the doore.

l To the place of Saint Cyprian Epist. 7. we answer: [Page 73] First, that Saint Cyprian in that Epistle exhorts Rogatia­nus, and other Confessors, to perseuere in the professi­on of their holy faith, & therefore this place is brought obtorto collo, for Apostasie. His words are, immediatly before the words alledged by the Appealer and Bertius, Danda opera est, vt post haec initia, ad incrementa quoque veniatur, & consummetur in vobis, quod iam foelicibus rudimentis esse coepistis; You must vse diligence, that af­ter these beginnings you may proceed, and that may be per­fected in you which is happily begun. Secondly, we an­swer: Cyprian saith, that Saul and Salomon lost the grace which was giuen them, but expresseth not what grace he meant; whether gratiam gratis datam, or gra­tiam gratum facientem; whether the grace of illuminati­on only, or of sanctification; whether the spirit of Pro­phecie, or of Gouernment, or of Regeneration. Thirdly, whether he meaneth grace of wisdome, or grace of holi­nesse, ordinary, or extraordinary gifts of the Spirit; hee saith not that the Spirit or grace departed from them totally or finally: and therefore this shaft is not onely blunt in it selfe, but also falls very short of the marke. Lastly, Saint Cyprian, as he perseuered himselfe a con­stant Martyr to the end, so is he a great patron of the perseuerance of Saints. In his booke against Nouatia [...] of the Vnity of the Church, he sets a marke vpon back­sliders, to distinguish them from good men and true be­leeuers: [Page 74] Nemo aestimet bonos de Ecclesiâ posse decedere, Let no man imagine that good men can (marke the word Posse) depart from the true Church: Triticum non rapit ventus, nec arborem solidâ radice fundatam procella sub­uertit; inanes paleae tempestate iactantur, inualidae arbo­res turbinis incursione euertuntur: The wind doth not blow away corne, neither doth a storme ouerturne a tree deepely and strongly rooted; it is emptie chaffe that the wind scattereth, and they are weake and rotten trees that are ouerthrowne in a storme. In this sweet straine Saint Cyprian playeth on his Master Tertullians Key; Tertullian. de praescript. c. 3. Auolent quantum volent paleae leuis fidei quocun (que) afflatu tentatio­num, eo purior mass a frumenti in horrea domini reponetur. Let the Chaffe, that is, men of light beleefe, be blowne or flie away with euery puffe of temptation, by this meanes Gods floore is purged and cleansed. I maruell none of this Chaffe flew in Bertius eyes, to make him misse his way to Paris; who destitute of better arguments for Apostasie, became himselfe an example of Apostafie; but the best is, before his departure he was knowne to be no Saint. He went away from vs, because he was not of vs, for if he had beene of vs, he would without doubt haue remained with vs, according to the words of Saint Iohn, 1 Epist. 2. alledged by Tertullian and Saint Cypri­an in both passages.

m To the place alledged out of Nazianzen, we an­swer: [Page 75] Virgil. Ae­nead. 4. That it is like Didoes sword wherewith shee pierced her owne bowels; Non hos quaesitum munus in vsus. If Bertius, who only tasted Nazianzens waters in a muddy streame; or the Appealer, who hath drunke deepely of them in the pure fountaine, had searched di­ligently thorow all the writings of that profound Di­uine for a testimony against themselues, they could hardly meet with a more pregnant. Because Saul, saith this holy Father, became not purely and sincerely another man, nor gaue himselfe wholly and entirely to be directed by the Spirit, he came to a fearefull end. Hypocrites there­fore, and such as are not sincerely conuerted, and tru­ly regenerate, may fall away: not they, who wholly and entirely yeeld themselues to the guidance of Gods Spirit; not they who by an vnfained conuersion be­come perfectly and sincerely other men. To the former, as saith this Father, God is a light, to the latter he is a fire: the former he enlightneth only; the latter he heateth al­so, melteth their heart, purgeth them from all their drosse. Or, if that eloquent Father take light in the good sense, and fire in the worse, then his meaning is, that as the word of God is a sauour of life vnto life in them that are saued, and a sauour of death vnto death in them that perish; so God himselfe is a Comfortable light to the true children of light, but a consuming fire to Hy­pocrites, and Apostatates, and all such as haue fellow­ship [Page 76] with the vnfruitfull works of darknesse, much more those who vtterly forsake God, and consult with the Deuill, as Saul did; and others of that his desperat re­solution: Flectere si nequeo superos Acheronta mouebo. I will make a league with Death, and couenant with Hell.

n To the passages alledged out of Saint Augustine we answer most willingly, we desire to heare none rather than Saint Augustine speake in this Cause: Ne­uer had the Church of God since the Apostle Saint Paul, a more valiant and resolute Champion of Grace, than Saint Augustine. As Tully spake of the ancient Rhetoritians, Cicero de [...]. Potius ex arte quàm de arte scripserunt, They rather wrote out of art, than of the art: So may it be truly said of Saint Augustines workes against the Pelagians, non tam de gratiâ, quàm ex gratiâ scripsisse vi­detur, That he wrote rather and spake from grace, than of grace, so full of grace are his lips, and pen in this argu­ment of Grace. I could easily point to many places in the Workes of this holy Father, especially those ex­tant in his seuenth Tome, [...] Vbi nō seclusa aliqua aquula, sed vniuersum flumen erumpit, Where there runnes not a small riuelet, but a maine streame of this water of the grace of perseuerance springing to euerlasting life. Verily Saint Augustine so professedly and strongly opposeth both the Pelagian, Demi-pelagian, and now Arminian errors, that as Pelagius himselfe in a Synod at Ierusalem being [Page 77] pressed with Saint Augustines Reasons and Authorities, Or [...]sius in A­polog. [...] Pelagius con­tempt [...] de Augustino es­set loqu [...]ru [...]s. Cor [...]inus [...] Tilen [...]. Bertius prae­fat. ad Lacto­r [...]m. which he was not able to answer, sought to vilifie and slighten his Person. So Arnoldus Coru. & Bertius ra­ther goe about to discredit, than satisfie the Authoritie of this Prime Father Non est standū hâc in parte Autho­ritati Augustini, We are not to stand to y Authority of Au­stin in this point, saith Arnoldꝰ. Quid quod Augustinꝰ ipse alijs per Africā Ecclesijs viuꝰ videns (que) sententiā suam nō probauit? Quid quod ipse à se dissentit Augustinꝰ, vt Augu­stinū citanti nihil sit promptius quàm Augustinū ipsum op­ponere? Austin, saith Bertius, by his life time made not good his opinion to the Churches of Africa: He dissents frō him­selfe, in so much y nothing is more easie than to oppose Au­gustine to Augustine. This lesson they both learned frō Arminius their Master, as Coruinus, mali corui malum o­uum, D [...]fens. Se [...] ­tent. Armi [...]ij de Pr [...]dest. acknowledgeth, pag. 205. Puto Arminium non il­libenter tibi concessurum fuisse, hâc in parte Augustinum vobiscum facere; ita tamen vt varium eum esse dixisset, & inconstantem in sententiâ suâ enuntiandâ. Cicer. in [...]. But Plato, Instar millium; Saint Augustine is more worth than a thousand, nay all the Arminians: whose Workes, as they haue already deuoured all the workes of the Pe­lagians and Semi-pelagians, so I hope will in time de­uoure also all the Arminians workes, as Aarons Rod did the Magicians. Durum telum necessitas, ignoscite; Meere necessitie droue Arminius and his Schollers to this de­sperate [Page 78] answer. Authologia Epigram. The Fox in the Greeke Epigrammatist, when hee could not reach the grapes, at which his mouth watered, comforted himselfe, saying, [...], It is no great matter though I cannot reach them, these grapes are but sowre fruit. As sowre as they are, Bertius and the Appealer snatch at one, or two; namely, the two passages before alledged by them. August. de [...]. Dei lib. 11. cap. 12. D [...] Corrept. & Grat. c. 5. To the first we answer, It toucheth not the state of the present questi­on; The state of Saints in Grace may be sure enough, yet they not alwaies assured of it. There is a certitude of the subiect, and a certitude of the obiect, that which now is in debate, is not the certitude of the subiect, whether the Regenerate are assured in themselues of their Perseuerance; but the certitude of the obiect, whe­ther their perseuerance in it selfe be certaine. This distin­ction is acknowledged generally by those Interpreters who comment on that of Saint Peter, [...] 1. 10. Make your electi­on sure: that is, say they, to your selues, and your own hearts, not in it selfe, nor in respect of God, For the foundation of God standeth sure, 2 Tim. 2. 19. hauing this Seale, The Lord knoweth who are his: neither can any thing done by man adde strength to Gods decree. But because our assurance of Election, and the state of Adoption, and Grace, and perseuerance in the same, is partly from the testimony of the Spirit within vs, and partly from the effects of Grace, to wit, the fruits of righteousnesse; and [Page 79] because when we grieue the Spirit of God, hee with­draweth his Spirit for a time, and thereby both the te­stimony of the Spirit is silent for the time, & the effects of Grace cease; Saint Augustine humbly and truly pro­fesseth, that the Saints, albeit they are certaine of the re­ward of their perseuerance, yet are found vncertaine of their perseuerance it selfe; Quis cum hominum se in actio­ne, profectu (que) iustitiae vs (que) in finem perseueraturum sciet? They are certaine, certitudine fidei, by the assurance of faith, but not certaine, certitudine scientiae, & expe­rientiae, by the certainty of knowledge and experience, as Bucer acutely distinguisheth: Bucer. lib. Concord. they are certaine of perseuerance in it selfe; yet they are found, that is, you may finde them in that state by reason of some fearfull temptation, not certaine in themselues; nay sometimes they in themselues receiue the sentence of death, to hum­ble them, and make them pray with sighes and groanes which cannot be expressed, Restore vnto me the ioy of sal­uation, and vphold me with thy free Spirit, Psal. 51. 12. Lastly, there is a double perseuerance:

  • 1. A perseuerance in a course of sanctity vnto the end, without any interruption or stop, when a childe of God goeth still forward, and neuer is cast backe, but continueth, as Saint Augustine speaketh, In actione profe­ctu (que) iustitiae; Still in the action and progresse [Page 80] of righteousnesse: and of such perseuerance the Saints are not certaine in this life.
  • 2. A perseuerance vnto the end, yet not with­out some interruption and going back also for a time, but without any totall or finall back-sliding; and of such perseuerance a Saint of God may and ought to be assured.

o To the place alledged by Bertius out of the fifth Chapter of Saint Augustine de Corrept. & Gratia, and by the Appealer out of Saint Augustine de bono Perseue­rant. cap. 6. we answer: That the words are not found in the places quoted. Yet Saint Augustine in other pla­ces hath such words: But his meaning is very plaine; He speakes of a temporary faith and common grace, Aug. de Cor­rept. & Grat. cap. [...]. not a iustifying faith, and sauing grace. His owne words are, Let it not moue vs that God giueth not some of his children perseuerance; Absit enim vt ita esset, si de illi [...] praedestinatis essent, & secundùm propositum vocatis, qui verè sunt filij promissionis; God forbid that it should be so, if they were of the Predestinate, and those which are called according to purpose, which truly are the children of promise. And a little after, Rursus quidam, qui filij Dei propter susceptam vel temporaliter gratiam dicuntur à no­bis, nec sunt tamen Deo; de quibus ait Iohannes, ex nobis exierunt, sed non erant ex nobis; hoc est, & quando vide­bantur in nobis, non erant ex nobis, & tanquam [...]i dice­retur [Page 81] vnde id ostendis, quòd si fuissent inquit ex nobis, per­mansissent nobiscum. Againe some, who are called by vs the sonnes of God, in respect of the temporall grace they haue receiued, are not so vnto God: of whom Saint Iohn saith, They went out from vs, but were not of vs; that is, and when they were seene amongst vs, they were not of vs. And as if it were obiected to him, Whence doest thou shew that? For if they had beene, saith he, of vs, they would haue remained with vs. In the same booke, De Corrept. & Gratiâ, Horum fides, quae per dilectionem ope­ratur, profecto aut omnino non deficit, aut si qui sunt quo­rum deficit, reparatur antequam vita ista finiatur; & de­let â quae intercurrerat iniquitate vs (que) in finem perseuer an­tia deputatur. Qui verò perseueraturi non sunt, ac sic à fide Christianâ & conuersatione lapsuri sunt, vt tales eos vitae huius finis inueniat proculdubio nec illo tempore quo benè pie (que) viuunt in isto numero computandi sunt. The faith of these men which worketh by loue verily either fai­leth not at all, or if it faile in any, it is repaired againe be­fore this life ends; and the wickednesse which comes be­tweene being blotted out, it is reputed for perseuerance to the end. But those who perseuere not, but so fall from Chri­stian faith and conuersation, that the end of this life findes them such, without doubt they were not to be accounted in that number, no not then, when they liued well and godly. And Chapter 9. Qui non habuerunt perseuerantiam, sicut [Page 82] non verè discipuli Christi, ita nec verè filij Dei fuerunt, etiam quando esse videbantur, & ita vocabantur: Those who had not perseuerance, as they were not truly disciples of Christ, so neither were they truly the sonnes of God, no not when they seemed to be so, and called so. In producing testimonies of Saint Augustine, Inopem me copia facit, Store is a sore vnto me; I will content my selfe onely with such passages as offer themselues vnto me in that very booke and chapter cited by the Appealer for the contrary. August. de bono Perseue­rant. cap. [...]. Thus the Chapter begins, These brethren, as you write, (He speaketh of the Demipelagians, and Mas­silians, against whom Prosper and Hilary had made a remonstrance vnto him) will not yeeld that such perse­uerance should be taught, which cannot be lost by contu­macie; where they doe not well obserue what they say; for we speake of perseuerance to the end; which if it be giuen, the partie to whom it is giuen perseueres to the end. Multi eam possunt habere, nullus amittere: hoc Dei donum sup­pliciter emereri potest, sed cum datum fuerit amitti contu­maciter non potest. Quomodo enim potest amitti, per quod fit, vt non amittatur etiam quod posset amitti? Many may haue perseuerance, none can lose it; this gift of God may be gained by humble prayer, but once giuen cannot be lost by contumacy. For how can that be lost, which makes, that what otherwise might be lost cannot be lost? I pitie here the Appealers ill hap, who like the Miser in the Greeke [Page 83] Epigram, that going to the place where hee thought he laid vp his treasure safe, found there no treasure, but a rope wherewith he stopt his wind-pipe.

p To the place alledged out of Prosper, Respons. 7. ad Capit. Gallorum, we answer: First, that Saint Prosper, Saint Augustines faithfull Scholler and great admirer, in the passage alledged concurreth with him. Both of them in words seeme to affirme, August. de Corrept. & Grat. c. [...]. That a regenerate and iustified man may fall by his free-will into foule and enor­mous sinnes, and die in them: but lest any should stum­ble at this sentence vnawares, Saint Augustine in the ninth chapter of the same booke giues them warning, and most plainly declares his meaning: Appellamus eos electos Christi discipulos & Dei filios, quia sic appellandi sunt, quos regeneratos piè viuere cernimus; sed tunc verè sunt quod appellantur, si manserint in eo propter quod sic appellantur. Si autem perseuerantiam non habent, id est, in eo quod caeperunt esse non manent, non verè appellantur, quod appellantur, & non sunt: apud eum enim hoc non sunt, cui notum est quod futuri sunt. We call all those chosen dis­ciples of Christ, and sonnes of God, because those whom we see liue godly, and are regenerate, are to be so called; but then are they truly that which they are called, if they re­maine in that, for which they are so called. But if they haue not perseuerance, that is, if they remaine not in that which they began to be, they are not truly called that which [Page 84] they are called, and are not; for they are not so to him, who knoweth what they will be. Secondly, Saint Prosper, with Saint Hilary, made a ioynt relation to Saint Augustine of the Demipelagian and Massilian errors, and desired Saint Augustines assistance against them. Of these one was, (as their Epistles to Saint Augustine make it mani­fest.) Nulli dari perseuerantiam talem à quâ non permitti­tur praeuaricari, sed à quâ possit suâ voluntate deficere, There is no such perseuerance giuen to any man, from which he is not suffered to reuolt; but such from which a man may by his free-will fall away. Against which I op­pose that sentence of Saint Augustine, as a fortresse im­pregnable: Aug. de Cor­rept. & Grat. cap. [...]. An audebis dicere, etiam rogante Christo ne deficeret fides Petri, defecturam fuisse, si Petrus eam defi­cere voluisset? quasi aliud Petrus vllo modo vellet, quàm pro illo Christus rogasset, vt vellet. Nam quis ignorat tunc fuisse perituram fidem Petri, si ea quae fidelis erat vo­luntas ipsa deficeret, sed quia praeparatur voluntas à Do­mino, ideo pro illo Christi non possit esse inanis oratio. Quando rogauit ergone fides eius deficeret, quid aliud ro­gauit nisi vt haberet in fide liberrimam, fortissimam, inui­ctissimam, perseuerantissimam voluntatem? Ecce quemad­modum secundum gratiam Dei, non contra eam libertas defenditur voluntatis: voluntas quippe humana non liber­tate consequitur gratiam, sed gratia potius libertatem, & vt perseueret delectabilem perpetuitatem, & insuperabi­lem [Page 85] fortitudinem. When Christ prayed for the faith of Pe­ter that it might not faile, what other thing did he aske, but that he might haue a most free, a most resolute, a most vnconquerable, a most perseuering will in the faith? Be­hold how the freedome of the will is defended by vs accor­ding to Gods grace not against it: for the will of man doth not by her freedome obtaine grace, but by grace freedome, and a delightfull perpetuitie, and inuincible power to per­seuere.

ARMINIANS.

HAge Cōference, Ar­ticle 5. If those that are regenerate cannot fall away totally, nor finally; hence it would follow that no q children of the faithfull could be damned, because by Baptisme they are put into the state of Grace, and regenerated.

Bertius pag. 79. The se­uenth absurdity which followes vpon the Aduersaries doctrine, is, that Baptisme doth not cer­tainly seale in all the children of the faithfull the grace of God.

Bertius pag. 35. The fifth demonstration is drawne from [Page 86] the causes of Apostasie: where­of the first is the committing of sin r against conscience, 1 Tim. 1. 19. &c.

Hage Conference, Article 5. Those that are truly faithfull may commit murther, adultery, and the like hainous sins, there­fore lose faith and Gods fauour; for which things the wrath of God falleth vpon the children of disobedience, Coloss. 3. 6.

APPEALER.

APPEALE, pag. 36. Let this be acknowled­ged to be the Doctrine of our Church, that children du­ly q baptised, are put into the state of Grace and saluation: (which you see you cannot, you must not deny) and both our and my experience will shew, that many so baptised children, when they come to age, by a wicked and lewd life do fall away from God, and from that state of Grace and Saluation, wherein hee had set them to a worse state: wherein they shall neuer be saued. If you grant not this, you must hold, [Page 86] that all men that are baptised are saued; which I know you will neuer doe.

Answer to Gag, pag. 161. 162. Againe, Faith must needs be lost where it cannot consist. It cannot consist where God wil not abide. God will not abide where he is disobeyed: he is disobeyed, where mortall r sinne is commit­ted; the most righteous man li­uing vpon the face of the earth, continually doth or may in this sort transgresse: who can tell how oft he offendeth? Cleanse thy seruant from presumptuous sins. Thou wilt haue no fellow­ship at al with the deceitful; Nor shall any euill dwell with thee.

q To the reason drawne from the Baptisme of Children, [...] l. 10. de Grat ca. [...]. Hag. Conf [...]r. [...]. part. 2. pag. 10. A [...] [...] Theologo Aug [...]o. Ar­ [...]ic. 5. Prideaux. Lect. 6. p. 123. we answer: First, that it is of all other most weak & childish; for it doth not at all touch the state of the question, as is obserued by Suarez, the German Diuines at the Hage Conference, the English Diuines present at the Synod of Dort, his Maiesties publique Professor of Diuinity in Oxford. The question is of those, who are iustified by the Act of faith, conceiued by the preaching of the Gospell, who fall into actuall sins wounding their conscience, whether such thereby [Page 87] lose the habit of Grace, and totally and finally fall away from the state of iustification? Now infants haue not the actuall vse of reason, neither doth their faith, if so they haue infused faith, actually apprehend and ap­ply the promises of the Gospell: neither can they be sup­posed to commit those crying actuall sins, which the Appealer calls mortall, (I hope not in the Popish sense) which cannot stand with the Grace of iustification, as is pretended by the Arminians, and Appealer. Second­ly, we answer: That although in a good sense a child may be said to be put into the state of Grace and Sal­uation, because thereby the infant is admitted into the Church, and participateth of the meanes of saluation; yet, if wee speake properly and precisely, the Sacra­ments seale, and not conferre grace; or, as the Church of England speaketh by her learned Apologist, Iud Artic. [...] diuis. 13. [...] 27. doe not begin, but rather continue and confirme our incorporation, by Christ. The Sacrament is a seale of the Couenant, the conditions are supposed to be drawn and assented vn­to before the seale be put to the instrument. The Seale without the Couenant is not auaileable; the Couenant may be without the Seale: we are tyed to Gods Ordi­nances, God is not. The contempt of Baptisme is dam­nable, the defect in the children of the Elect and seed of the faithfull, comprised in the Couenant with their fathers, is not so: if all possible meanes haue beene [Page 88] vsed by the Parents and Minister to procure them Bap­tisme before God call them away, there is no danger to the Parents, much lesse to the Children. For the in­euitable defect of Baptisme may be supplyed either by a desire of Baptisme, as in Valentinian; or by profession of faith, as in the Theefe vpon the Crosse; or by the bloud of Martyrdome, as in the Innocents put to death by Herod. Thirdly, we answer, All that are regenerate Sacramentally are not necessarily and infallibly regene­rated spiritually: A man may be baptised with water, and yet not with the holy Ghost. Ismael was circumci­sed as well as Isaak, Esau as well as Iacob, Simon Magus was baptised as well as Simon Peter. Our Church in Cha­ritie, Booke of Common Prayer, Bur [...] ­all of the [...]. as it supposeth all children baptised to be regenerate by the holy Ghost, so also in the forme of buriall it sup­poseth, all that liue in the bosome of our Church to die in the Lord, and to depart in the true faith of Gods holy name. Yet vndoubtedly our Church attributeth no more vertue to the Sacraments than the Ancient Church did. Theoderets obseruation is well knowne, Gratia Sacramentum aliquando praecedit, aliquando se­quitur, aliquando nec sequitur: Grace sometimes goes be­fore the sacrament, somtimes follows it, somtimes it follows it not at all. Saint Augustines resolution is peremptory Omnes eundem potum spiritualem biberunt, sed non in om­nibus beneplacitum est Deo: & cùm essent omnia commu­nia [Page 89] Sacramenta, non communis erat omnibus gratia, qu [...] Sacramentorum virtus est. Sicut & nunc iam reuelatâ fi­de quae tunc velabatur, omnibus in nomine Patris, & Filij, & Spiritus sancti baptiz atis commune est lauacrum rege­nerationis, sed ipsa gratia, cuius sunt Sacramenta, quâ mem­bra corporis Christi cum suo capite regenerata sunt, non communis est omnibus. The lauer of regeneration is co [...] ­mon to all that are baptised in the name of the Father, Son, and holy Ghost, but the Grace, whereof these are Sacra­ments, whereby the members of the body of Christ are re­generate with their Head, is not common to all. And a­gaine Saint Augustine, August. lib. 5. contra Do [...] ­tis cap. 24. Christ is put on sometimes, vsqu [...] ad Sacramenti perceptionem, as far as to the receiuing of the Sacrament, sometimes also vnto sanctification of life; At (que) illud primum bonis & malis potest esse commune, [...]oc alterum proprium est bonorum & piorum, The first is com­mon to good and bad, the other is proper to the good and god­ly. Saint Austines hands are supported by Chrysostome and Ierome, as Moses were by Aaron and Hur. Saint Chrysostome, Chrysost. in Mirtth. ho [...]. 5. Many are baptized with water, which are not baptised with the holy Ghost; they seeme to be the sons of God in regard of their Baptisme, but indeed they are not the sonnes of God, because they are not baptised with the holy Ghost. Ierom [...]. in epist ad Gal. cap. 3. Saint Ierome, Si quis hoc corporeum, quod oculis carnis aspicitur, aquae tantum accipit lauacrum, non est indutus dominum Iesum. Nam & Simon ille Magus [Page 90] acceperat lauacrum aquae, verum quia Spiritum sanctum non habebat, indutus non erat Christum. Et haeretici vel hy­pocritae, & hi qui sordidè victitant, videntur quidem acci­pere baptismum, sed nescio an Christi habeant indumen­tum. If any man receiue only the visible lauer of water, he hath not put on Christ, &c. From these and many o­ther the like testimonies of the Ancient Fathers, I in­fer, that the foundation of this argument is sandy and sinking; Although the inward grace ordinarily accom­pany the outward signe, and we ought to beleeue by the iudgement of Charity, that all who are baptised are tru­ly regenerate: [...] yet iudicio veritatis, as Iunius distin­guisheth, that is, by the iudgement of precise and infal­lible truth all are not so, as the Fathers speake roundly and plainly. Now as in the iudgement of Charity we are to beleeue, that all that are baptised are regenerate, so by the same iudgement we are to beleeue, that, though they fall into grieuous sinne, and sometime come to a fearefull outward end, God notwithstan­ding giueth them grace to repent at the last gaspe, and consequently they fall not away finally. Inter sacrum & saxum, inter pontem & fontem misericordia. Lastly, this Obiection may be retorted against the Aduersa­rie thus.

If Baptisme may not be reiterated, then the grace of regeneration cannot be totally lost.

[Page 91] But Baptisme may not be * As the Church [...] of Se [...]i [...]ure against all Ana [...]aptist [...]. reiterated. Therefore the grace of regeneration can­not be totally lost.

The consequence of the maior is thus made euident. A man that hath lost the grace of regeneration totally, is as if he neuer had been regenerated, and therefore must be borne again: if borne againe, againe baptised: because the signe and the thing signified, or, as they make it, the cause and proper effect cannot be seuered; if then the effect, to wit, regeneration be lost, and must be re­produced, the proper cause, as they say, the necessary condition and seale, as we say, must be againe put. If regeneration may bee had the second time without Baptisme, why not at first? which the Aduersaries ab­solutely deny, Iohn 3. 5. pressing farre that text, Vnlesse a man be borne againe of water, and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdome of heauen. It is a thing vnconceiue­able, that the shadow should be more permanent than the substance; the Baptisme of water, than that of the holy Ghost. If then a regenerate man lose totally his re­generation, and be as if he had neuer beene regenerate, he is as if he had neuer beene baptised. This reason may be further confirmed; when this question is pro­pounded, why Baptisme is but once to be administred, and the Lords Supper often? It is most vsually answe­red, because a man is borne but once, but is fed often. [Page 92] The edge of this argument cannot be turned by the Aduersarie, vnlesse he can shew more Regenerations in Scripture then Baptismes, or any new Regeneration without a new lauer, any new Couenant without an authenticall instrument and new seale.

r To the reason drawne from mortall sinne in the regenerate, we answer: First, if mortall sinne be taken for such sinne as deserueth of it selfe eternall death, all sinne is mortall: if by mortall sinne such sinne for which a man is bound ouer by God, and sentenced to eternall death, no sinne in the Elect is mortall: for how grie­uous soeuer they sinne, the seed of God remaines in them, which in time will bring forth repentance, and repentance saluation. In the interìm betweene their sinne and the renued act of their repentance, God sus­pendeth, but he reuoketh not his pardon of their sinnes: he is angrie with them, and they indeed haue forfei­ted their estate in his grace and fauour, and title to the Kingdome of Heauen, but God will not take the for­feit; they lose the sense and present fruit, but not the state of iustification. Habituall repentance they haue alwayes, and shall haue the Act, if the sinne be such for which habituall repentance, and the continuall as­king of a generall pardon for all sinne will not suffice. A tender hearted father though his sonne prouoke him very farre, so that hee chastise him with many [Page 93] stripes, yet will hee hardly be brought to disinherite him; Rom. [...]. 17. [...] yet if a father could, God will not; for if euer sonnes, then heires, if euer iustified, then glorified. The Apostle will make good the Consequence, if the Spi­rit in our heart make good the Antecedent. Lastly, this Obiection may be retorted thus.

N [...] Ordinarie and small sinnes doe put the regenerate out of the state of grace;

All ordinarie and small sinnes are in their owne nature mortall;

Therefore some sinnes in their owne nature mortall, doe not put the regenerate out of the state of grace.

Or thus:

Peter committed a most grieuous and hai­nous sinne;

* See hereof Sebast. Bene­field Praelect. de Perseue­rantia sanct [...] ­rum, cap. 15. & 16. a pag. 97. ad 143. Peter was not thereby vtterly exclu­ded from the grace of God:

Therefore a man may commit some most grieuous and hainous sinne, and not be vt­terly excluded from the grace of God.

The like may be said * See hereof Sebast. Bene­field Praelect. de Perseue­rantia sanct [...] ­rum, cap. 15. & 16. a pag. 97. ad 143. of Dauid, of which aboue. The first proposition is in the Gospell; the second is in the Homily of Repentance. Sir Thomas Moore ha­uing tracked Gallus in the Ancient Poets, from whom he secretly had borrowed many verses, and bragged [Page 94] much of the genius and spirit of Ancient Poësie, witti­ly thus plaieth vpon him in the Epigram, saying, Thou Gallus hast the very spirit of the Ancient Poëts, for thou makest the selfe-same verses that they made before.

Vatibus idem, animus (que), & verè spiritus idem,
Qui fuit antiquis, est modo, Galle, tibi.
Carminanam (que) eadem, versus (que) frequenter eosdem
Quos fecêre illi, tu quo (que), Galle, facis.

Doubtlesse if the Appealer neuer read Arminius or Bertius, as he seemeth deeply to professe; I may say truly of him, as he did of Gallus, that he hath the very spirit and soule of Arminius and Bertius, for he deliue­reth not only the same [...]enents, but he vseth the selfe­same Authorities, Scriptures, Fathers, and Reasons, and for the most part in the same words: All which Arguments, common to them both, haue beene exa­mined, and proued like the stone that Achilles flung at a dead skull, which rebounded back and strucke out the [...] eye:

—redijt lapis vltor ab osse
Actoris (que) sui frontem, oculos (que) petit.

We [...] doe nothing against the truth, but for the truth. 2. Cor. 13. 8.

An Aduertisement to the Reader.

THe Errors of the Appealer are of three sorts, Po­pish, Arminian, and of a third kinde, multi-for­miter deformes. Of the first sort I haue giuen thee a taste: Of the second thou shalt haue a Synopsis in the Tablet ensuing: The third thou shalt finde in the Writ of Errour. In all kindes I haue pretermitted some, Non amore erroris, sed errore amoris: Not for any loue I beare to his errors, but through an error of loue. Part­ly because I hope they are rather slips in his pen, than downfalls in his iudgement: partly also because they are discouered by others; whose writings had I seene before my papers were ingaged in the Presse: Aiax hic meus in spongiam incubuisset.

A SECOND TABLET, Representing the Appealers consent with the Church of Rome, and dissent from the Church of England, in diuers remarkable points.

Of the Church.

Harmony.

Church of Rome.

CAssander in his Consultation, Article 7. pag. 50. The present Church of Rome hath euer stood firme in the same foundation of Doctrine & Sacra­ments instituted by God, &c. Quamvis praeseas Ecclesia Romana nō parùm in morum et disci­plinae integritate, addo etiam & do­ctrinae [Page 2] sinceritate, ab antiquâ illâ un­de orta & derivata est, dissideat; ta­men eodem funda­mento doctrinae & Sacramentorum à Deo institutorum firma semper con­stitit.

Cassander ibid. The present Church of Rome acknowled­geth and embraceth cōmunion with the ancient & vndoub­ted church of Christ; wherefore shee can­not be other, or di­uerse from it. Prae­sens Ecclesia Ro­mana communio­nem cum illà anti­quâ, & indubitatâ Christi Ecclesiâ a­gnoscit & colit: Quare alia, & di­uersa ab illâ esse nō potest.

Councel of Trent [Page 3] page 442. in fine. In the Bull of Pius the fourth, vpon a forme of oath in­ioyned to all Pro­fessors. I acknow­ledge the holy, Ca­tholike, and Apo­stolike Church of Rome to be the mo­ther, and Mistresse of all Churches.

Cassander, Ar­ticle 7. page 50. Praesens Ecclesia Romana manet Christi Ecclesia & sponsa. The present Church of Rome re­maineth Christ his Church and Spouse [although shee haue prouoked her hus­band with many er­rours and vices,] so long as Christ [Page 4] her Husband hath not giuen her a bill of diuorce: although hee hath chastised her with many scourges.

Bellarm. de Ro. Pontif. lib. 4. c. 4. The present Church of Rome cannot erre (namely, in matter of faith, &c.)

Sixtus 4. in Sy­ [...]od. Complut. con­demneth [Page 5] certaine Articles of Peter of Oxford, whereof one was this; That the Church of Rome could erre. Mar­tin the fifth, in his Bul annexed to the Councell of Con­stance, will haue them held Here­tikes, who hold o­therwise of the Sa­craments, or Ar­ticles of faith, then the Church of Rome.

Appealer.

ANswer to the Gagg, cap. 5. pag. 50. Moderate men on both sides confesse, that this Controversie may cease: and although the present Church of Rome hath not a little departed from the ancient Church from which it was deriued &c. yet she hath euer stood firm in the same founda­tion [Page 2] of Doctrine & Sacraments institu­ted by God.

Appeale page 113. In essentialls and fundamentalls they agree. Ap­peal ibid. Praesens Ecclesia Romana communionem cū illâ antiquâ & in­dubitatâ Christi Ecclesiâ agnoscit, & colit: Quare a­lia & diversa ab il­lâ esse non potest. The present Church of Rome acknowled­geth and embraceth cōmunion with the ancient & vndoub­ted church of Christ; Wherefore shee can­not bee other or di­uerse from it.

Appeale p. 113. [Page 3] The church of Rome as well since, as be­fore the Councell of Trent, is a part of the Catholike, thogh not the Catholike Church.

App: Answer to Gagg page 50. Ma­net Christi Eccle­sia & sponsa. The Church of Rome still remaines the spouse & Church of Christ &c.

Appeale page 139. The Church of Rome is, and e­uer was a true Church since it was a Church. Appeale page 140. Mistake not my saying, The Church of Rome is a true Church ratione [Page 4] Essentiae, and being of a Church.

Appeale page 113. I am absolute­ly perswaded, and shall bee still, till I see cause to the con­trary, that the Church of Rome is a true Church.

Answer to Gag, page 14. Plainly deliuered in Scrip­tures are all those points, which belong to faith, and man­ners, hope, and cha­ritie. I know none of these controver­ted inter partes. By partes, hee there apparantly meanes, the church of Rome, and Re­formed Churches: Now if the church of Rome differeth not from vs in any [Page 5] matter of faith, thē hath she not erred in any matter of Faith. For our dif­ferences are about her errors.

App. pag. 112. I professe my self none of those furious ones in point of diffe­rence now a dayes, whose resolution is, that wee ought to haue no society, or accordance with Pa­pists in things di­uine, vpon paine of eternall damnation. Appeal. p. 83. That they (the Papists) raise the foundatiō, that we must for e­uer, vpon paine of damnation (strange bugbeares and ter­riculamenta, dissent fom them.

Discord.
Church of England.

HOmily for Whit­sonday. 2 part. p. 213. The church of Rome (as it is at this present) is not built vpon the foundation of the Apostles and Pro­phets, retaining the sound & pure doctrine of Iesus Christ: Neyther yet doe they order the Sacraments in such sort as he did [Page 2] first institute, and ordaine them.

Apology of the Church of England cap. 16. divis. 2. part 6. The origi­nall and first foun­dation of Religion hath beene vtterly corrupted by those men, (namely) the Popes adherents.

Apology of the Church of England cap. 16. divis. 1. part 6. Wee haue gone from that Church, which we our selues did eui­dently see with our eyes, to haue gone from the old holy Fathers, and from the Apostles, and from the Pri­mitiue and Catho­like Church of God.

Apol. Church of [Page 3] England. part 6. cap. 22. diuis. 2. We are departed from him, (namely, the Pope) who, with­out doubt, is the forerunner & stan­dard-bearer of An­tichrist, & hath vt­terly forsaken the Catholike Faith.

Homily for Whit­sonday 2 part. p. 213 If we compare this (namely the de­finition of the true Church) with the Church of Rome, not as it was in the beginning, but as it is presently, then shall wee perceiue, the state therof to be so far wide from the nature of the true church, as no­thing can be more. Et ibid. pag. 214. If it bee possible, that the Spirit of [Page 4] truth should bee there, where the true church is not, then is it at Rome.

Homily for Whit­sonday, p. 213. We may well conclude according to the Rule of S. Austen, that the Bishops of Rome, & their ad­herents, are not the true Church.

Article 19. The Church of Rome hath erred, not on­ly in their liuing, and manner of ce­remonies: But also in matters of faith. Apolog. Church of Engl. c. 16. div. 1. part 6. Wee haue gone from that Church, which Christ, (who can­not err) told so lōg▪ before, it shold err. Neither had we e­uer intended so to [Page 5] do except both the manifest & assured wil of God, opened to vs in his holy scripture, & regard of our owne salua­tion, had euen cō ­strained vs. Apol. Chur. of Engl. par. 6 div. 2. c. 20. We are fallen from the Bi­shop of Rome, be­cause the case stood so, that vnlesse wee left him, we could not come to Christ Apol. par. 5. c. 15. d. 3. We haue renoun­ced that Church, wherein we could neither haue the word of God sin­cerely taught, nor sacraments rightly administred, and wherein there was nothing able to stay a wise man, or one that hath cōsi­deration of his own safety.

[Page 6] In this head touching the Church of Rome, the Appealer directly contradicts the Church of Eng­land in these particulars:

The Church of England.
  • 1 The church of Rome holdeth not the same foundation.
  • 2 Hath erred in matter of Faith.
  • 3 Hath not the nature of the true Church.
  • 4 Must be left on paine of damnation.
  • 5 Is departed from the Primitiue and Catho­like Church.
Appealer.
  • 1 The church of Rome holds the same. foun­dation.
  • 2 Hath not erred in mat­ters belonging to faith.
  • 3 Hath the essence & be­ing of the true Church.
  • 4 Ought not to be left on paine of dānation.
  • 5 Is not departed, but holds cōmuinion with the Primitiue and Ca­tholike Church.

Of Generall Councels.

Harmony.

Church of Rome.

BEllarm. de con­cil. & Eccles. 2 Booke▪ 2 Chap. Wee are bound by the Catholike faith, to beleeue, That Ge­nerall Councels can­not erre in faith or manners. The like is affirmed by Gre­gory de Valentia, A­nalys. fidei Cathol. lib. 18.

Hosius de legit. judicibus rerū Ec­clesiasticarum.

Andradius, De­fence of the Coun­cell of Trent, in his Chapt. Of the au­thoritie of Coun­cels.

Canus in his common places of Diuinity 5 Booke: [Page 8] and the Romanists generally.

Campian rat. 4. Concilia.

Duraeus in confut. respons. Whitak. de Conciliis.

Appealer.

ANsw. to Gag. page 48. To cōclude, The Church cannot erre, neither collectiuè, nor re­presentativè Thus your Masters di­stinguish the terms of this question, that goe workmanlike, & not like you clut­teringly to worke: so they, so wee, in the largest extent, not erre at all. Second­ly, not erre in points of faith: for in mat­ters of fact, they cō ­fesse error. Appeale p. 124. Many things appertain vnto God, which are not of ne­cessity vnto saluati­on, both in practice and speculation: in [Page 8] these haply, Generall Councells haue er­red, in those other none can erre.

Discord.
Church of Engl.

ARticle 21. Ge­nerall Coun­cels, when they be gathered together, [for as much as they are an As­sembly of men, whereof, all bee not gouerned with the Spirit and word of GOD] they may erre, and sometime haue er­red, euen in things appertaining to God.

Wherefore, things ordained of them, as necessary to saluation, haue neyther strength nor authoritie, vn­lesse they may bee declared, that they [Page 8] bee taken out of holy Scripture.

In this point (touching the not-erring, or infalli­ [...]itie of Generall Councels) the Appealer (howsoe­uer by distinguishing of points fundamentall, and accessory) endeuoureth to difference his opinion from the Church of Rome, and reconcile it to the Article; yet in truth he faileth in both. For first, the Church of Rome holdeth all doctrines de fide, de­termined by the Church, to be necessary to salua­tion, and consequently, in the Appealers sense, fun­damentall points. In particular, she defineth the de­cisions of the Councell of Trent, in the controuer­ted points betweene vs, to be part of the Catholike Faith, without which no man can be saued: Pius 4 in Bullâ super formâ juram. pag. 441. If therefore the Appealer, maintaine, as hee doth, That Generall Councells cannot erre in matters fundamentall, and [Page 9] necessary to saluation, he holdeth consequently, that they cannot erre in matter de fide. Secondly, his do­ctrine cannot stand with the Article of our Church; for the Article both supposeth, and proueth, that Ge­nerall Councels may erre, euen in points necessary to saluation: It supposeth it, in those words [things ordained of them, as necessary to salvation, haue neither strength, nor authority, vnlesse, &c.] For if Generall Councels could not erre in things necessary to salua­tion, we might in such things safely rely vpon their authoritie without warrant of Scripture; which the Article expressely denyeth. If Generall Councels may iudge those things to be necessary to saluation, which are not, (as the Article implyeth,) they may in like manner iudge, those things not to bee necessary to saluation, which are; and so erre bothe wayes in the iudgement of points necessary, and fundamentall. And verily the reason, annexed to the Article, con­cludeth as strongly, that Generall Councels may erre in fundamentals, as in Accessory: the reason is, because [Generall Councels are an Assembly of men, whereof all are not gouerned by the Spirit, and Word of God: Now they who are not gouerned by the Spi­rit and Word of God, haue, and may erre euen in points fundamentall; in asmuch as nothing can pre­serue a man from fundamentall error, but the Spirit, [Page 10] and Word of God, whereby they are not gouerned, as hath the Article. Notwithstanding all this iar­ring and discord from the Article, I find some har­mony and concord in the close, Appeale pag. 147. Ad verbū. of such a Councel, and the sounder part, & con­clusions in saith, it is probable. Detali Concilio, & saniore parte, de cōclusionibus in fide, probabile est: It is probable, that in a Generall Coun­cell lawfully called, the sounder part cannot erre in conclusions of faith. But this straine was not the Appealers, but a learned Asaffs.

Of Iustification.

Harmony.

Church of Rome.

COunc. of Trent Sess. 6. c. 4. Ius­tification is a trans­lation from the state, in which a man is borne the sonne of the first Adam, into the state of Grace, and adoption of the sons of God by the second Adam.

[Page 11] Counc. of Trent Sess. 6. c. 7. Iustifi­cation is not onely remission of sinnes, But also sanctifica­tion, and renouation of the inward man, by the voluntary re­ceiuing of grace, and those gifts, whereby a man of vniust is made iust.

Counc. of Trent Sess. 6. canon 11. If any man say, that A man is iustified onely by remission of sinnes, excluding grace, and charity, which is shed into their hearts by the holy Spirit, and is [Page 12] inherent in them; let him bee accur­sed.

Appealer.

ANswer to the Gagg. page 142. A sinner is then iustified, when hee is made iust, that is, translated from state of Na­ture to state of Grace.

Answer to Gagg. page 143. Iustifica­tion consisteth in [Page 11] forgiuenesse of sins primarily, and grace infused secondarily. Both the acts of Gods Spirit in man.

Answer to Gagg. page 140. To iusti­fie hath a threefold extent. First, to make iust and righ­teous. Secondly, to make more iust and righteous. Thirdly, to declare and pro­nounce iust.

Page 142. Iusti­fication properly is in the first accep­tance. A sinner is thē iustified, when he is made iust; that is, (pag. 141.) trans­formed [Page 12] in mind, re­newed in soule, rege­nerate by grace.

Discord.
Church of England.

HOmil. of Salua­tion. page 13. Because all men be sinners, and brea­kers of Gods law, therefore can no man by his owne acts, words, and deeds, seeme they neuer so good, bee iustified. But of ne­cessity euery man [Page 11] is constrained to seeke for another righteousnesse, or iustification to bee receiued at Gods owne hands: that is to say, forgiue­nesse of sins: And this iustificatiō, or righteousnes, wch wee so receiue of Gods mercy, and Christs merits, is accepted and al­lowed of God for our full and perfect iustification. The faith in Christ, wch is within vs, doth not iustifie vs; for that were to account our selues to bee iustified by some act or virtue, which is within our selues.

Art. 11. Of the iustification of man. We are accounted righteous before [Page 12] God, onely by the merit of our Lord and Sauiour Iesus Christ, by faith, & not our owne workes.

Note in this maine point of Iustification, That the Appealer differeth from the Church of England, and consenteth to the Church of Rome, in three re­markable particulars.

  • 1 In the signification of the word, [To iustifie,] which the Appealer, and the Church of Rome take for [making a man righteous.] The Church of England, and the Protestants generally, for [accounting, declaring, or pronouncing a man righ­teous.
  • 2 The Church of England maketh Iustification to consist onely in forgiuenesse of sinnes. The Appealer, and Church of Rome, not onely in forgiuenesse of sins, but partly in it, and partly in sanctifying graces infused.
  • 3 The Church of England teacheth, That wee are not iustified by inherent righteousnesse, or, by any vertue within vs. The church of Rome, and [Page 13] the Appealer hold, That we are iustified by san­ctifying and regenerating graces within vs, where­by wee are transformed in minde, and renewed in soule. By renewing grace inherent in vs, wee are sanctified, but not iustified: the confoun­ding of Sanctification with Iustification (as the Appealer and Papists doe) is an errour of dangerous consequence, as the learned well know.

Of Merit of Workes.

Harmony.

Church of Rome.

COunc. of Trent Sess. 6. can. 32. If any man say, That the good workes of a man iustified doe not truly merit in­crease of grace, and eternall life, let him be accursed.

Bellar. de iustifi. lib. 5. c. 16. The workes of iust men proceeding frō cha­rity, [Page 14] are meritori­ous of eternall life, (ex condigno:) this is the common opi­nion of Diuines, and it is most true.

Vasques in 1a. 2ae. q. 114. disput. 214. The good workes of iust men, without any couenāt or acceptation, are worthy of the re­ward of eternall life, and haue an equall value of worth, to the obtaining of eternall life.

Vasques disput. 222. The workes of a righteous man doe merit eternall life, as an equall reward, or wages; they make A man iust, and worthy eternall life, that hee may of de­sert obtaine the same.

Appealer.

APpeal. pag. 233. The wicked goe to enduring of tor­ments euerlasting: the good goe to en­ioying of happinesse without end: thus is their estate diuer­sified to their deser­uing.

Answer to Gagg. pag. 153. Merit of congruity is not [Page 14] commonly meant, as scarce vouchsafed the name of merit. Good workes are therefore said to bee meritorious, are so vnderstood to be ex condigno: which, that a worke may so be, these conditi­ons are required: that it bee morally good, freely wrought by man in this life in the state of grace, and friendship with God, which hath annexed Gods pro­mise of reward: all which conditions, I cannot conceiue, that any protestant doth deny to good workes.

Discord.
Church of Engl.

HOmily of Sal­uation. 2. part. page 17. Though I haue faith, hope, and charity, repen­tance, and doe ne­uer so many good workes, yet wee must renounce the merit of all our said virtues, and good deeds, which wee either haue [Page 14] done, shall doe, or can doe, as things that bee farre too weake and insuffi­cient to deserue the remission of our sinnes.

Artic. 11. Wee are accoūted righ­teous before God, onely for the me­rit of our Lord, & Sauior Iesus Christ by faith, and not for our own works or deseruings.

Homil. of good workes. To haue affiance in our workes, as by me­rit of them to pur­chase to our selues remission of sinnes, and eternall life, is blasphemy.

Obserue reader, that the Appealer ignorantly, or fraudulently omitteth the proper conditions requi­site to a meritorious act, which are especially these:

  • 1 That the worke be properly our: and not his, of whom we pretend to merit.
  • 2 That it be opus indebitum, a worke to which o­therwise we are not bound.
  • 3 That it be some way profitable, and benefici­all to him, from whom wee expect our re­ward.
  • 4 That it haue some proportion, and correspon­dence (of congruity at least, if not of condig­nitie) to the reward expected.

All which conditions Protestants deny to bee found in our good works. And therupon disclaime all merit. These conditions the Appealer pretermit­teth, and from foure common conditions, requisite to a good worke in generall, he concludeth loosely, and weakly, That the Papists and wee agree in the doctrine of merit (ex condigno) of condignitie. In his Appeale Chap. 11. (by the advice, as it seemes, of the Approuer of his booke) hee disclaimeth merit of condignity, which in his former booke he seemed to approue. But he saith little or nothing which may not well stand with merit of congruity. Indeed hee [Page 16] lasheth Vasques for that, wherein he differeth from other Papists: but he retracteth not any where that his owne sentence, namely, The eternall state of men is diuersified to their deseruings. Wherein hee crosseth the 11 Article, and the words of S. Paul, Rom. 6. The wages of sinne is death, but the gift of God is eternall life.

Of Euangelicall Counsels: or, Workes of supererogation.

Harmony.

Church of Rome.

BEl. de Monach. lib. 2. cap 7. An Euangelicall Coun­sell of Perfection is called a good worke, not inioyned vs by Christ, but shewed vnto vs: not com­manded, but com­mended onely.

Ibid. cap. 8. It is the opinion of all Ca­tholiques, that there are many Euangeli­call Counsels, viz. [Page 17] of things, aduised, or counselled vnto, but not prescribed, nor commanded.

Appealer.

ANswer to the Gagg. p. 103. What is meant by workes of Superero­gation, we may col­lect out of the texts of Scripture cited, viz. That man in the state of grace, and assisted by Gods grace, may doe some­things counselled, and not comman­ded. I know no doc­trine of our English [Page 17] Church against E­uangelical counsels. Appeale page 214. I doe beleeue, there are, and euer were Euangelicall coun­sels.

Discord.
Church of Engl.

ARticle 14. Vo­luntary works, besides, ouer, and aboue Gods Com­mandements, wth they call workes of supererogation, cā ­not be taught with our arrogancy, and impiety: for by them, men doe de­clare, that they doe not onely render vnto God, as much as they are bound [Page 17] to doe, but, that they doe more for his sake, then of bounden duty is required, whereas Christ saith plain­ly, When yee haue done all, that are commanded vnto you, say, wee are vnprofitable ser­uants.

Though this point touching Euangelical Coūsels, may seeme to bee of no great consequence, yet to the Romanists it is a point fundamentall: for vpon it they build their treasury of superaboundant satis­factions. And Leech after hee had first suckt this thinner and purer blood, afterwards greedily swal­lowed the most corrupt and ranke blood of Popery; but I hope the Appealers manifold preferments, and better hopes, will be better councellors to him, then to merit by a totall, or supererogate to a finall Apo­stacie from vs, to the Pope of Rome.

Of Reall presence.

Harmony.

Church of Rome.

Counc. of Trent Sess. 13. cap. 1. Of the reall presence of our Lord in the most holy Sacra­ment of the Eucha­rist, This holy Sy­node openly and simply professeth, That in the Sacra­ment of the Eucha­rist, after the conse­cration of Bread & Wine, That our L. Iesus Christ, true God and man, is truly, really, and substantially con­tained vnder the species or forme of those sensible things.

Gratian. de con­secrat. distinct. 2. cap. Ego. Berenga­rius is inioyned by Pope Nicholas to [Page 19] recāt in this form.

I Berengarius doe accurse that heresy, wherewith I haue beene heretofore de­famed, in maintai­ning [that the bread and wine, after the consecration, are onely a Sacrament, and not the true bo­dy and blood of Christ. And that the true body and blood of Christ can­not be sensibly hand­led by the Priests, or broken, or chewed with the teeth of the faithfull, but onely in the signe, or sacra­ment thereof.] And I giue my consent to the holy Church of Rome, and Aposto like See, and I pro­fesse with my tongue and heart, that I hold the same faith, concerning the Sa­crament [Page 20] of the Lords Table, which our Lord, and holy Father Nicholas, and this holy Synod, by Euangelicall and Apostolicall autho­rity, hath inioyned to be held, and hath confirmed vnto me: to wit, that the bread and wine vp­on the Altar, after consecration, are not onely the sacrament, but also the true bo­dy and blood of our Lord Iesus Christ: and that, not onely the Sacrament, but the body and blood of Christ is in truth sensibly handled, and broken by the Priests, and eaten with the teeth of the faithfull.

Bellarmine de Sacramento Eucharist. lib. 1. c. 2. The Coun­cell of Trent, Sess. 13. teacheth, That Christ is in the Sacrament truly, and really, against the fiction of the Calvinists; who will haue Christ to be there so present, that he may be apprehen­ded by faith; that hee is present to the contemplation of faith, though corporally in heauen.

Bellarm. ibid. The Councell addeth (substantially) against the Calvinists, who say, that the body of Christ, according to his substance, is onely in heauen, but according to, I know not what, virtue and power, he floweth from thence to vs.

Appealer.

ANsw. to Gag. pag. 253. But that the Diuell bred you vp in a faction, and sent you abroad to doe him seruice in maintaining a fac­tion: Otherwise ac­knowledge there is, there need be no dif­ference in the point of reall presence.

Appeal. p. 289. Cōcerning this point there need be no dif­ference, the disa­greement is onely de modo praesentiae.

Answer to Gagg. pag. 253. There is, there need bee no difference in the point of reall pre­sence.

Ibid. pag. 252. We ingenuously con­fesse, [Page 19] That by this Sacrament Christ giueth vs his very body and blood, and really and truly per­formes in vs his pro­mise: as for the ma­ner how, this inex­plicable, that vn­utterable, trans or con, wee skill not of. Vide supra Appeal pag. 289. In these passages, the Appealer differeth from the Church of England in these three things: first, that he saith, There is no difference be­tweene vs about the reall presence: wher­as indeed there is a maine difference; and most of our Martyrs dyed ra­ther, then they would acknow­ledge the Popish reall presence. See [Page 20] the Acts and Mo­numents. Second­ly, he saith, that the manner is vnutte­rable; whereas the Church of Eng­land defineth the manner. Thirdly, in that he saith, we skill not of, or make matter, of transub­stantiation, or con­substantiatiō: wher­as the Church of England expresly condemneth tran­substantiation, as a grosse and dange­rous error.

Discord.
Church of Engl.

ARticle 28. The body of Christ is giuen, taken, and eaten in the Sup­per, onely after a heauenly and spiri­tuall manner: And the meane wherby the body of Christ is eaten and recei­ued in the Supper, is Faith. Transub­stantiation, or the change of the sub­stance of bread and wine in the Supper of the Lord, can­not be proued by holy Writ: but is repugnant to the plaine word of Scripture, ouer­throweth the na­ture of a Sacramēt, and hath giuen oc­casion to many su­perstitions.

[Page 19] Iuel. Artic. 5. of the reall presence, pag. 238. We seeke Christ aboue in heauen, and ima­gine not him to be bodily present vp­on the earth: The body of Christ is to be eaten by faith onely, and no o­therwise. And in this last point ap­peareth a notable difference between vs and M. Harding, for we place Christ in the heart, accor­ding to the doctrine of Saint Paul: Mr. Harding placeth him in the mouth. We say, Christ is eaten onely by faith. Master Har­ding saith hee is ea­tē with the mouth and teeth.

Article 28. The [Page 20] body of Christ is giuen, taken, and eaten in the Sup­per, onely after an heauenly and spi­rituall manner: & the meane, wherby the body of Christ is receiued and ea­ten in the supper, is faith. Transub­stantiation is re­pugnant to Scrip­ture, ouerthrow­eth the nature of a Sacrament.

The Appealer seemes to bee one of the Bon­hommes, who, in a jejune Lent-discourse, durst o­penly bid defiance to the Article of our Church, say­ing, I abhorre them that teach, Christ to be in the Sacra­ment onely by faith: for hee is not there, because wee be­leeue, but wee beleeue because he is there present. If this be a good beleefe and doctrine, (That Christ is other­wise present in the Sacrament, then to the hearts of beleeuers, and that by faith onely) let the Appealers poore Woodcocke, or Catholike Cockscombe, pag. 251. tell vs, what he taketh to be the meaning of S. Austin in those words, qui credit, edit: or, if he cannot do that, yeeld a reason, why Rats and Mice may not eate the very body of Christ.

Of Images.

Harmony.

Church of Rome.

COunc. of Trent Sess. 25. p. 290 The Images of Christ, the Virgin mother of God, & of other Saints, are to be had, & retained [Page 22] in Tēples especially, and due honour and veneration is to bee giuen vnto them: Because the honour, which is to be exhi­bited to them, is re­ferred to the proto­type or sampler, so that by the images which we kisse, and before which we put off our hats, and lye downe, wee adore Christ, and the Saints, whose Ima­ges they beare.

Bellarmine of the Images of Saints, lib. 2. c. 21. Images by them­selues properly are to be worshipped.

Ibid. cap. 22. We [Page 23] must not say, That the supreme worship, called Latria, is due to Images: but on the contrary, wee ought to say, that they ought not so to be adored.

Bellarmin. ibid. cap. 9. lib. 2. Ima­ges may be lawfully set vp in Churches.

Appealer.

ANswer to the Gagg, p. 318. The pictures of Christ, the blessed Virgin, and Saints, may be made, had in houses, set vp in [Page 22] Churches, respect, and honour may bee giuen to them: The Protestants doe it, and vse them for helpes of Piety in re­memoration and more effectuall re­presenting of the prototype.

Page 319. Let practice & doctrine goe together, wee agree.

Page 318. You say, they must not haue Latria, sowce.

Appeale page 257. In your pra­ctice you giue them that honour, which you call Latria, and is a part of diuine worship; so not we. Let practice and doctrine goe toge­ther, that is, giue them no Latria for­mall nor interpre­tatiue, & we agree.

[Page 23] Answer to Gagg. pag. 318. Images are not vnlawfull for ciuill vses, nor vtterly in all maner of religious imploy­ment.

Gag. p. 300. Ima­ges haue three vses assigned by your Schooles; Instructiō of the rude, commo­nefaction of history; and stirring vp of deuotion: You, and wee also giue vnto them.

Discord.
Church of Engl.

ARt. 22. The Romish doc­trine concerning worshipping, and adoration, as well of Images, as of Reliques, is a fond [Page 22] thing, vainly in­uented, and groun­ded vpon no war­ranty of Scripture, But rather repug­nant to the word of God.

Homily against the perill of Idolatry. part. 3. page 42. It is vnlawfull that it (the image of Christ) should be made, or that the Image of any Saint should bee made, especially to bee set vp in Temples; to the great and vnauoidable dan­ger of Idolatry. Wee grant that I­mages vsed for no religion, or super­stition rather, [we meane Images of none worshipped, nor in danger to be worshipped of any] may bee suf­fered: [Page 23] But Ima­ges placed publike­ly in Temples, cannot possibly be without danger of Idolatry.

Ibid. p. 42. Be­ware lest thou make to thy selfe, that is to say, to any vse of Religion, a­ny grauen Image.

Ibid. page 43. I­mages are of more force, to crooke an vnhappy soule, thē to teach, and in­struct.

Ibid. pag. 42. Ei­ther Images bee no bookes; or if they be, they bee false, and lying bookes, the teachers of all errour.

In this point of Images the Appealer differeth from the Church of England in foure particulars:

  • [Page 24]1 The Church of England condemneth in the Article, the popish doctrine concerning the worshipping of Images. The Appealer appro­ueth the doctrine, and condemneth the pra­ctice onely.
  • 2 The Church of England teacheth it to be vn­lawfull, to set vp Images in Churches, because it cannot be done without vnauoidable perill of Idolatry. The Appealer alloweth the setting them vp in Churches.
  • 3 The Church of England forbiddeth all religi­ous vse of Images, allowing meere ciuill, or historicall. The Appealer alloweth Images for religious imployments.
  • 4 The Church of England denyeth any wor­ship due to Images. The Appealer granteth any worship, saue Latria: hee stickes not at Dulia, if it trench not vpon Latria.

In all which points of Doctrine hee perfectly ac­cordeth with Bellarmine and the Church of Rome, onely hee disclaymeth their practice, as also Polidor Virgil, and many other ingenuous Papists doe.

Of the Crosse.

Harmony.

Church of Rome.

BEll. Book 2. of the Images of Saints. c. 30. The signe of the Crosse workes miracles, not out of a natural vir­tue that it hath, as a figure, But as a signe instituted of GOD. Note, that there are three won­derfull effects of the crosse. 1. it terrifieth, & putteth deuils to flight. 2. It driueth away diseases, and all euils. 3. It san­ctifieth those things vpon which it is im­printed. The first effect it hath from three causes: from the apprehension of the deuill, the deuo­tion of man, and in­stitution of God. For [Page 26] the Deuill when he seeth the Crosse pre­sently remembreth, that by the Crosse of Christ, hee was con­querd, spoild, bound, & discōsited. Hence it is, that he flyes from the Crosse, as a Dog doth from a stone, or staffe, with which he hath beene strucke. Againe, the Crosse hath a force from the worke of him, that worketh with it, or vseth it; after the same man­ner as prayer hath. For the signe of the Crosse is a kinde of the calling vpon the merits of Christ cru­cified▪ expressed by the signe of the Crosse.

Appealer.

ANsw. to Gagg page 321. Our church alloweth the signe of the crosse, v­seth it, commandeth it; & I could tell you some experimented effects of it.

App. p. 280. What if I meant some ex­perimēted effects of my own knowledge? what then? Can you controll, or convince me? What if vpon diuers extremities I haue found ease, by vsing that ciacula­tory prayer of our Let any, By thy cross? And what if to testi­fie my faith, I made the signe of the cross?

Answ. to Gagge. pag. 320. Wee vse signing with the [Page 26] signe of the Crosse, both in the forehead, and else­where, witnesse that solemne form in our Baptisme, for which we are so quarrelled by our factious. The flesh is signed, that the soule may bee fortified, saith Ter­tullian, and so doe wee.

Appeale p. 268. What hindereth, but that I may signe my selfe with the signe of the Crosse, in any part of my body, at any time, at night when I goe to bed, in the morning when I rise, &c?

Discord.
Church of England.

BOok of Common Prayer. Then the Priest shall make a Crosse vp­on the Childes forehead.

Booke of Canons Chapter of the signe of the Crosse. The Infant baptised is by virtue of Bap­tisme, before it be signed with the signe of the Crosse receiued into the Congregation of Christs flocke, and not by any power assign'd to the signe of the Crosse. The Church of Eng­land hath retained [Page 26] the signe of the Crosse, being pur­ged from all Po­pish Superstition and errour, for the remembrance of the Cross, accoun­ting it a lawfull, & outward ceremo­ny, and honoura­ble badge.

In this point, touching the signe of the Crosse, the Appealer differeth from the Church of England in two particulars.

1 He falsely imposeth vpon the Church of Eng­land, That in her forme of Baptisme shee vseth the signe of the Crosse vpon the forehead, and else­where. That [else-where] is not to be found in the forme of Baptisme, or els-where in the con­stitution, or practice of our Church.

2 He ascribeth operatiue Power, and experimented effects, to the Crosse: and seemes to father some such error vpon the Church of England, say­ing, That wee signe the flesh, that the soule may be fortified, so wee: wheras the Church of England in the Canon, will haue no power, or efficacy, to be ascribed to the signe of the Crosse; but onely a kinde of significancy, and honorable representation of Christs death vpon the Cross. And more then this, I will not beleeue touch­ing any efficacy of the signe of the Crosse, till I finde by experience, that the Appealers signing his lips with the signe of the Crosse, makes him a faire-spoken, and his signing himselfe on the brest with the signe of the Crosse, makes him a Good man.

Of Invocation of Saints.

Harmony.

Church of Rome.

COunc. of Trent Sess. 25. The holy Synod commā ­deth all Bishops and others, to whom the office and charge of teaching is cōmit­ted, that, according to the vse of the Ca­tholike and Aposto­like Church, they diligently instruct their congregations touching the inter­cession and invoca­tion of Saints; tea­ching them, that it is good, and profita­ble, humbly to call vpon them, to flye vnto their prayers, help, and aid: and that they impiously conceiue, who deny that Saints, inioy­ing eternall happi­nesse [Page 29] with God, are to be called vpon, or that the calling vp­on them is idolatry; or that it is repug­nant to the word of God; or that it dero­gateth from the ho­nour of the only Me­diator between God & man, Iesus Christ Bellar. of the bles­sednes of Saints. booke 1. chap. 19. Holy Angels, & men departed this life, are piously & profi­tably called vpon by the liuing.

Appealer.

GAgg pag. 200 Perhaps there is no such great im­piety, in saying, [S. Laurence, pray for me.]

Ibid. p. 203. Now the case of Angels-keepers, in point of Advocation, & In­vocation, is much different from other Angels, not Guar­dians; as being con­tinually attendant, alwayes at hand, though invisibly: & therfore, though we might say, Saint Angell-keeper, pray for me; it followeth not, we may say, St. Gabriel, pray for me.

Invocation of Saints, page 99. [Page 29] If thus my selfe re­solued doe inferre; [Holy Angel keeper pray for me] I see no reason to be taxed with point of Pope­ry, or superstition, much lesse of absur­dity, or impiety.

Answ. to Gagg. p. 229. Saue al other labor in this point; proue but onely this, their knowledge of any thing ordinari­ly, I promise you, straight, I will say, Holy Saint▪ Mary pray for me.

Discord.
Church of Engl.

ARtic. 22. The Romish doc­trine cōcerning In­vocation of saints, is a fond thing, vainly invented, grounded vpon no warrant of Scrip­ture, but rather re­pugnant to the word of God.

Homily of Prayer 2 part. pag. 114. In­vocation or prayer may not bee made without faith in him, on whō they call; wherupon we must onely & soly pray to God. For to say, wee should beleeue, eyther in Angel, or Saint, or any other liuing creature, were hor­rible blasphemy a­gainst [Page 29] God, & his word. Ibid. Is there any Angel, Patriark or Prophet among the dead, can know the meaning of the heart? &c.

Bishop Andrewes Answ. to Bellarmins Apol. pag. 180. Al­leadgeth, The Sy­nod of Laodicea, did forbid praying to Angels.

Defence of the Church of England against Spalata. c. 60 You aske, why Saints are not to be called vpon? Be­cause you haue no command of God to call vpō them. Now in the worship of God, God cōmandeth, Deut. 12. 23. What I command thee, that onely doe thou: Because you haue no example in Scripture of calling on them, but that of Iohn, A­poc. 19. 10. See thou do it not, worship God: Because it is wil­worship after the commandements & doctrines of men, con­demned by the Apostle, Col. 2. 22. Of which God said of old, Who required these things at your hands? Esay 1. 12 And of which our Sauiour saith, In vaine doe they worship me, tea­ing for doctrines the commandements of men, Mat. 15. 9.

White. Answ. to Fisher. page 335. Invocation of Saints is iniu­rious to the onely mediatorship of Christ.

In this point touching the Inuocation of Saints: the Appealer differeth from the Church of England in two particulars:

  • 1 That he maketh a difference betweene Angels, (especially Guardians) and other Saints, in re­spect of Invocation: whereas the Church of England putteth no such difference. But indif­ferently forbiddeth the calling vpon Saints de­parted, or Angells: Guardians, or others. And the reasons they alledge are as strong against the one, as the other.
  • 2 The Appealer denyeth Inuocation of Saints, onely vpon this ground; that the Saints de­parted, ordinarily, know not our affayres: and consequently, he maketh Popish Invoca­tion idle and foolish, but not impious, blas­phemous, iniurious to God, and our Sauiour. Whereas, the Church of England denyeth In­vocation of Saints vpon many other grounds; and maketh it idolatrous, iniurious to Christ, yea and blasphemous, as appeareth in the pla­ces aboue alleadged,

Of Extreme vnction.

Harmony.

Church of Rome.

COun. of Trent Ses. 14. cap. 1. The holy vnction of the sick, is instituted by Christ, as a truly and properly called Sacrament of the new Testament.

Ibid. cap. 2. The effect of this Sacra­ment is, the wiping away of all those sins in the sicke, which remaine to be expia­ted, & the relieuing and strengthening his soule.

Appealer.

ANsw. to Gagg. ch. 37. p. 267. That Sacramental vnction is not to be vsed to the sicke. Vse it if you will. We hinder you not. Nor much care or en­quire what effects ensue vpon it. But obtrude it not on vs, or vnto the Church, as in censu of the Sacraments of the Time of grace, &c.

Discord.
Church of Engl.

ARt. 25. There are two Sacra­ments ordained of Christ in the Go­spell, that is to say, Baptisme and the Supper of the Lord. Those fiue commonly called Sacraments, Con­firmation, Penāce, Orders, Matrimo­ny, & Extreme vn­ction, are not to be counted for Sacra­ments of the Go­spel, being such as haue growne part­ly of the corrupt following of the Apostles, partly are states of life allow­ed in Scriptures. But yet haue not like nature of Sa­cramēts with Bap­tisme & the L. Sup­per.

In this point touching Extreme vnction, though the Appealer doe not fully ioyne hands with the Pa­pists, and shake hands with the Church of England; yet he maketh the vsing of Extreme vnction, or not vsing it; the attributing of such effects, as the Church of Rome erroniously (if not impiously) ascribeth to it, or not attributing, a light matter, of no great im­portance; a thing indeed not to be obtruded vpon the Church, as necessary: yet a thing, for ought that he saith to the contrary, that may be not vnlawfully vsed. Whereas the Church of England, or at least, the most approued Writers in the Church of Eng­land, make the adding of any new Sacrament, and attributing a diuine, & spirituall effect vnto it, with­out commandement, or warrant of God's word, to be a grieuous sinne, & breach of the second Com­mandement. And if it may haue such an effect, as to wipe away all sinnes remaining in the sicke, our Church should very much wrong the sicke not to administer it to them. It concernes vs therefore to en­quire of any such effects, and finding that it hath none, to condemne it, as not onely vnwarranted by Scripture, but also derogatory to the efficacy of the the other Sacraments, and Christs blood.

Of assurance of Saluation.

Harmony.

Church of Rome.

COnc. of Trent. Ses. 6. canon 13 If any man say, that to obtaine remission of sins, it is necessa­ry, that a man be­leeue certainly, and without any hesita­tion, or questioning, in regard of his own infirmity and dispo­sition, that his sins are remitted him, let him be accursed.

Counc. of Trent Sess. 6. Canon 14. If any say, that a man is absolued frō sin, and iustified, because he certainly beleeueth that hee is absolued and iusti­fied; and that none is iustified, but hee that beleeueth, that hee is iustified, let him be accursed.

[Page 34] Ibid. Can. 12. If any say, that ius­tifying faith is no­thing else, but a con­fident relying on Gods mercy, forgi­uing our sinnes by Christ, or that this confidence is the on­ly faith, whereby we are iustified, let him be accursed. Ib. c. 16 If any say, or beleeue, that hee shall cer­tainly haue by abso­lute and infallible certainty the great gift of perseuerance to the end, vnlesse he know, and haue learned it by speciall reuelation, let him be accursed.

Appealer.

ANsw. to Gag. pag. 186. If we consider our own disposition, wee as­signe no more, then probable and coniec­turall assurance. This Bellarmine as­signeth; this is e­nough. Faction may transport a man to wrangle for more, but when once they ioyne issues, the dif­ference will not bee much. Much, or little, great, or smal, thus, or so, the Church of England is not touched, that assigneth it neither.

Appeale page [Page 34] 213. I professe, I am not of that opi­nion with you: and whatsoeuer you may resolue for your cry­ing Abba, Father, secundum praesen­tem justitiam, I craue pardon, I can­not thinke that you are, may, or can bee so perswaded, secun­dum statum futu­rum.

Discord.
Church of Engl.

HOmily of the passion. p. 186. What meanes is that? It is faith: not an inconstant or wauering faith, but a sure, stedfast, grounded, and vn­fained faith.

Pag. 187. The on­ly meanes and in­strument of salua­tion required of our parts, is faith: that is to say, a sure trust and confi­dence in the merits of God, whereby we perswade our selues, that God both hath and will forgiue vs our sins, and that hee hath accepted vs again into his fauour, & that he hath relea­sed [Page 34] vs from the bonds of damna­tion, and receiued vs into the num­ber of his elect people.

Et post. Wee must take heed, that wee doe not halt with GOD, through an incon­stant and wauering faith, but that it be strong and stedfast to our liues end: Wee must apprehend the merits of Christs death and passion by faith, no­thing doubting but that Christ by his owne obl [...]tion, and once offering him­selfe on the Crosse, hath taken away our sinnes, and restored vs againe into Gods fauour.

The point of Perseuerance hath such affinity with this point of assurance of saluation, that what is wanting in this, may be supplyed out of the for­mer Parallel. Al that I here obserue, is, that the Appea­ler fully accordeth with the Councell of Trent, not only in the conclusion, but in the very reason allead­ged by the Councell for the ground thereof.

Of the Popes Primacy.

Harmony.

Church of Rome.

IN the forme of oath prescribed in the Bul of Pius 4 annext to the Coū ­cell of Trent. I ac­knowledge the holy Catholicke and A­postolicke Church of Rome, to be the Mo­ther, and Mistresse of all Churches: and I vow and sweare true obedience to the Bishop of Rome, the successor of Pe­ter, the Prince of the Apostles, & Vi­car of Iesus Christ.

Bellarmin. de Romano Pontif. lib. 4. c. 1. The Pope is supreame Iudge in cōtrouersies of faith and manners.

Appealer.

ANsw. to Gag. p. 29. I could interpret S. Anselm well enough; as that if a controuersie were referred by the Church, or an here­sie to bee corrected in the Church, wch touched the case of the Catholicke Church, it could not be put ouer more [...]it­ly to any one man, by the Church re­presentatiue in a Councell, then vn­to the Pope, first Bi­shop of Christen­dome, of greatest, not absolute power, among Bishops.

Discord.
Church of England.

HOm. for Whit­sunday, second part. pag. 214. 215. First, as touching that they will bee termed vniuersall Bishops, & Heads of all Christian Churches through the world, wee haue the iudge­ment of Gregory expresly against them: who, wri­ting to Mauritius the Emperour, condemned Iohn Bishop of Con­stantinople in that behalf, calling him the Prince of pride, Lucifers successor, and the forerun­ner of Antichrist. S. Bernard agree­ing thereunto, saith, What greater pride can there bee, then that one man should preferre his owne iudgement before the whole congregation, as if hee onely had the [Page 36] Spirit of God? And Chrysostome pronounceth a terrible sentence against them, affiriming plainly, that whosoeuer see­keth to be chiefe on earth, shall finde confusion in heauen: and he, that striueth for the supremacy, shall not be reputed among the Seruants of Christ.

Homily against wilfull rebellion, 5 part, pag. 308. 309. The Bishop of Rome being by the order of Gods word none other then the Bishop of that one See and Diocesse, and ne­uer yet well able to gouerne the same, did by intolerable ambition challenge not onely to be Head of all the Church dispersed through the world, but also to be Lord ouer all Kingdomes of the world.

In this point, touching the Popes Primacy, though the Appealer comes not full home to the tenent of the Church of Rome, yet he goeth too far, & poin­teth at a most dangerous course, of referring the iudgement of controuersies of faith, that concerne the whole Church, vnto the Pope. Which course, if (with Master Mountagues good approbation) we should take in the great controuersie touching the Head of the Church, the Power of the See of Rome, the causes of our Separation from that Church, and all the controuerted points betweene vs, conclama­tum esset; he, that hath but halfe an eye, might see, what the issue would bee. This resolution of M. Mountagu, if he hold still, it will bee expected, that in the next edition of his booke he change the title now prefixed [Appello Caesarem] into Appello Papam. [Page 37] The markes of the Beast were come out in the Pope before Anselmes time, and since they are so apparent in him, that other learned Diuines make the Pope whole Antichrist, and the Appealer himselfe makes him halfe the Antichrist, pag. 149. and an entire A­postata from Christ and his kingdome: And was there no fitter Bishop in all Christendome to decide controuersies concerning the whole Church of Christ, then he who is either halfe or whole Anti­christ? but of this point see more in the Writ of error.

Of Antichrist.

Harmony.

Church of Rome.

BEllarmine de Rom [...]no pon­tif. lib. 3. c. 13. The seat of Antichrist shal be in Ierusalem▪ not Rome; for Enoch and Elias are to fight with Anti­christ in Ierusalem.

Ibid. c. 12. Anti­christ shall properly come for the Iewes, and shall be receiued [Page 38] by them as the Mes­sias; he shall be cir­cumcised, and keepe the Sabbath for a time.

Ibid. cap. 18. The frensies of Hereticks are refelled, by wch they do not so much proue, as impiously affirme, that the Pope is Antichrist.

This conclusion is the scope of his whole third book; and he, and all Pa­pists, who haue written of this ar­gument, apply themselues wholly to proue, that nei­ther the Pope per­sonally, nor the Popes successiuely constitute that An­tichrist, described in the Apocalyps.

Appealer.

ANsw. to Gagg page 74. 75. I am not of opinion, that the Bishop of Rome personally, is that Antichrist, nor yet that the Bishops of Rome successiue­ly, are that Anti­christ, so spoken of.

App. p. 146. Whe­ther the Pope of Rome, or the Popes [Page 38] of Rome, either are, or may bee accoun­ted, or is that An­tichrist, or Anti­christs, my irresolu­tion grew, as I haue remembred, from the much insuffici­ency of their proofs, that tender it stout­ly, strongly, affectio­nately, and tantum non, as a point of faith. Not any one of their arguments is, not all their ar­guments together are, conuincing.

Appeale p. 149. I incline to the more moderate, and tem­perate tenent, and rather of the two, embrace, the Tur­kish & Popish estate, not seueral, but con­ioyned, doe consti­tute That Anti­christ, then either of the two states disioy­nedly: and of the two states, rather the Turk by much, then the Pope. Ibid. p. 144. Why [Page 39] should it not be as lawfull for mee to opine, that the Pope is not that Antichrist, as for others to write, to preach, to publish, to tender to proceeders this proposition, The Pope is Antichrist? Ib. p. 154. The Turk is, and hath bin long possessed of Ierusalem, that holy City. The Iewes, when Mahomet first declared himselfe, came flocking vnto him, as to their Messias, the sooner, & rather, because hee was circumcised.

Discord.
Church of Engl.

HOmily against wilfull rebel­lion, 6. part. p. 316. The Bishop of Rome, vnderstan­ding the supersti­tion of English­men, and how much they were inclined to wor­ship the Babyloni­cal Beast of Rome, and to feare all his [Page 38] threatnings, and causelesse cursings, &c.

The Pope is im­plyed to be that An­tichrist, in the pray­er of thankesgiuing for our deliuerance from the powder Treason. [Root out that Babylo­nish and Antichri­stian sect.]

And in the mor­ning prayer appoin­ted for priuate hou­ses, [Confound Satan, Antichrist, with all hirelings, &c.]

See K. Iames in his praemonitory pre­face, & his Cōment vpō the Reuelation.

Iuel Def. of Apo [...]. par. 4. c. 9. diuis. 3. B. Abbot and [...]. Downam de Anti­christo. B. Andrewes resp. ad Car. Bel. Ap. à capite 9. ad 13.

In this point, touching Antichrist, the Appealer agreeth with the Church of Rome, and di [...]enteth from the learnedst Diuines in England, and other re­formed Churches, both touching the maine conclu­sion [The Pope is Antichrist:] and touching the seat, doctrine, and character of Antichrist; which they ap­ply to the Pope; hee with the Papists to the Turke. As for the Protestant arguments taken out of the A­pocalyps, to proue [the Pope to be the Antichrist,] Bellarmine calls them deliramenta, dotages, and the Appealer, to shew more zeale to the Popes cause, straineth farther, and termes them Apocalypticall fren­sies; which, proceeding from the mouth of a Prote­stant Antigagger and Appealer to King Iames, Non sani esse hominis, no sanus juret Orestes.

Of Limbus Patrum.

Church of Rome.

BEllar. de Anim. Christi, l. 4. c. 11. The soules of the godly were not in heauē, before Christs ascensiō. Id. de Sāct. beat. lib. 1. c. 20. If they demand, why prayers of the liuing were not reuealed to the Fathers in Lim­bo, and are now re­uealed to the Saints in heauen? I an­swer, that the Saints in Limbo did not take care of our af­faires, as the Saints doe in heauen, neither were they then set ouer the Church, as now they are.

Appealer.

GAgg pag. 278 Though they were not in heauen in regard of place, yet were they in hap­pinesse, in regard of state. Ib. 281. Let them not haue been in heauen before our Sauiour, I deny it necessarie they were therefore in Hell: that region I call Abrahams bosome, which though it bee not Heauen, yet is it higher then hell.

Church of England.

HOmily concer­ning Prayer, pag. 122. The scrip­ture doth acknow­ledge but two pla­ces after this life; the one proper to the elect and bles­sed of God; the other proper to the reprobate and damned soules.

Ibid. pag. 122. S. Augustine doth ac­knowledge onely two places after this life, to wit, heauen, and hell.

In this point, though the Appealer dissent from the Romanists in a circumstance on the bye, about the situation of Limbus Patrum, (for they place it nea­rer the confines of hell, the Appealer nearer heauen) yet he agreeth with thē in these 2 main conclusions:

  • 1 That there is, or at least was, a place for soules after this life distinct from heauen and hell.
  • 2 That the soules of the Fathers, before Christs ascension, were not in heauen, but in that third place.

Of Traditions.

Harmony.

Church of Rome.

COuc. of Trent. Ses. 4. decret. 1. The holy Synod of Trent, (finding this truth and holy di­scipline to bee con­tained, partly in Scriptures, & part­ly in vnwritten tra­ditions, which ey­ther were taken frō Christs mouth by the Apostles, or were deliuered by the Apostles them­selves inspired by the holy Ghost, and haue passed as it were from hand to hand to vs, and fol­lowing the example of the Orthodoxe Fathers) doth with the like religious af­fection & reuerence [Page 34] receiue, & entertain all the bookes of the old and new Testa­ment; as also the traditions thēselues pertaining to faith and manners.

Appealer.

ANsw. to Gag. pag. 42. That most learned, religious, and most iu­dicious writer (hee meaneth St. Basil de Spiritu sancto, which Treatise E­rasmus, Bishop Bilson, and other iudicious Diuines proue to be coun­terfeit) saith no more then is iusti­fiable touching tra­ditions. For thus saith he:

The Doctrine of the Church is two wayes deliuered vn­to vs: First, by writing; then by tradition from hand [Page 34] to hand bothe are of alike force or va­lue vnto piety.

Discord.
Church of Engl.

ARticle 6. Holy scriptures con­taine all things ne­cessary vnto salua­tion; so that what soeuer is not read therein, nor may be proued therby, is not to be requi­red of any man that it should be belee­ued as an article of faith, or be thought requisite, or neces­sary to saluation.

Art. 20. Although the Church bee a witnes & a keeper of holy writ, yet, as it ought not to de­cree any thing a­gainst the same, so, besides the same ought it not to en­force any thing to [Page 34] be beleeued for ne­cessity of saluation.

Art. 21. Things ordained by Ge­nerall Councels as necessary to salua­tion, haue neither strength nor au­thority, vnlesse it may be declared, that they be taken out of holy Scrip­ture.

In this point touching Traditions, the Appealer consenteth with the Church of Rome, and differeth from vs in two particulars:

  • 1 In that he admitteth of doctrinall Traditions belonging to faith and manners. We acknow­ledge traditions concerning discipline and the rites and ceremonies of the Church, but not concerning the doctrine, or matter of faith and religion.
  • 2 In that he equalizeth vnwritten traditions to holy Scriptures: such traditions, as we receiue, we hold and esteeme farre inferiour.

A WRIT OF ERROVR SVED AGAINST THE APPEALER.

HOrtensius, A. Gell. [...]oct. At. that spruce O­ratour, commenced an action against a Citizen of Rome, for rushing hastily vpon him, and thereby disordering, and pressing down the pleats of his gowne. Many such actions haue been heretofore entred, and pursued against such, as haue rudely or carelessely crushed a pleat in the Spouse gowne, or ruffled a set in her ruffe; I meane, with their pen glan­ced (though vnwittingly) at a ceremo­nie of order, or ornament of decency. But now, when not her rayment of needle worke, wrought with diuerse colours, (that is, much variety of rites, and ceremonies, or her attire, is some way wronged, or soyled,) but [Page 36] [...] [Page 37] [...] [Page 38] [...] [Page 39] [...] [Page 40] [...] [Page 33] [...] [Page 34] [...] [Page 35] [...] [Page 36] her body is wounded, and that by her Watchmen; and her vaile (which distinguished her from the Whore of Babylon,) taken away: yet few, or none dare plead for her against an Ap­peale to her most tender, and gratious nursing Fa­ther. Nay, (which is more to be admired) they, who out of a loue to the Church, (as is pretended,) haue had a jealous eye ouer the Presse, and haue procured other Pam­phlets to be called in, (though put forth by lawfull authority,) haue yet beene most for­ward to put forth this booke, which was stayed vpon just cause, and had certainly miscarried, and neuer seene the Sunne, had not present helpe beene got by a strong man­mid wife; whether is it, because that some are more sollicitous of the Temporall estate of the Church, impeached by Puritanisme, then of the Spirituall, in danger of being vtterly o­uerthrowne by Popery? Or (because they would haue Popery and Puritanisme more eauen ballanced, then they are) that their accesse to either might be of more moment? or is it, because (as the Appealer hath taught vs) that there are certaine in this Kingdome [tantū nō in Episcopatu Puritani,] there are also [Page 37] some of the Clergie, that are tantum non in vx­oratu Papistae: or, as Aristotle said of Theodo­rus, that the making of Epithites was [...]. Theodorus his whole art; so the oppo­sition to Puritanisme is all the Religion they seeme to profess?Sulpit. Se­uer. hist. Right of Ithacius his stamp, who mightily bending himselfe against the heresie of Priscillianists [Heretiques of a strict and seeming-holy life,] the hatred of which euill was all the vertue he had, became so wise in the end, that euery man carefull of vertuous conuersation, studious of Scrip­ture, and giuen to any abstinence in diet, was set downe in his Kalender for a suspected Puritan, I should say, Priscillianist: for whom the onely way to proue the soundnesse of faith to this man, was, by a more licentious and loose kind of behauiour. But I am too shallow to enter into the depth of these mens proiects: Sure I am, that if a Puritan Gnat be caught by them in the Presse, they will straine it euen vnto death; but for ma­ny a Popish Cammel, they swallow downe readily, neuer sticking so much as at the bunch in the backe: which taxe of titheing Mint and Commin, lest I my selfe might bee [Page 38] liable vnto, [in noting the smaller and sub­tiller errours in the Appealers Booke, and passing by the greater,] I thought fit to point at now in the second place some fouller and grosser errours in the Appeale; yet but point at; because I am certainly informed that many sharper sickles then mine, are in this haruest. Arminianisme comes vp but thinne, and in many passages scarce discernable; but Popery is euerywhere thicke and rancke. Doubtless in many the particulars, set down in the former Tablet, besides diuers others, ne Athenae quidem ipsae sunt magis Atticae, Rome her selfe is not more Romish, then the Ap­pealer. What should I marke out with a coale diuers errours in his booke of a blac­ker hiew, and deeper taint? whereof I cleare his conscience, but cannot his pen. In his, as in the pen of Demosthenes, there is a viru­lent poyson; but, I hope, he hath not sucked it out, as Demosthenes did.

In the answer to the Gagge page 68. in expresse and direct termes hee denyeth th [...] Princes supremacy: [That a woman may bee su­preame Gouernesse of the Church in all causes, as well Ecclesiasticall, as Temporall, as Queene Eli­zabeth [Page 39] was. As Queene Elizabeth was? with lye, and all. No Protestant euer said so of Queen Elizabeth: No Protestant euer thought so, of any woman. You shamelesse pens, and brazen faces.] In the Appeale page 94. he deliuereth plaine Vorstianisme; [Deum ire per omnes-ter­ras, tractúsque maris, coelúmque profundum. They meant it substantially, and so impiously. Christians doe hold, and beleeue it too; but dispo­singly, &c. in his prouidence.] If God be euery where but disposingly, and in his prouidence, and not substantially; then is hee in his sub­stance confined to certaine places; if confi­ned, then not infinite; and what did, or could, Vorstius dogmatize more impiously? Saint Paul teacheth vs, that it is not enough for a man to conceiue rightly in matter of faith, but he must take heed, hee hold to a forme of wholesome words. Such, I am sure, the former are not, nor the like, Answer to Gag. page 202. [Is Christ an Angell, and not a true one? in appearance, not in substance? who euer heard such stuffe from a Priests lips? Nay I may more truly retort this speech, Is Christ a true Angell, and that in substance? who e­uer heard such stuffe from a Priests lips? For, [Page 40] if hee bee an Angel in substance, and that a true one; he must be so either according to his Diuine nature, or humane: if hee say, ac­cording to his humane, he dasheth vpon Mar­cions, or Apollinaris his heresie, and denyeth, by consequence, the verity of his humane nature: if he make him an Angell, and that a true one in substance according to his diuine nature, he maketh shipwracke of his faith against Arrius his rock, and by consequence, euerteth his diuine nature. For euery Ange­licall substance is finite, the deity infinite.

I haue purposely taken all the Gall out of my inke, because I would not dentem dente mordere, exasperate his exasperating style: yet, I cannot but say, that the Appealer, in descri­bing the markes of the Beast, acts the Beasts part. For, Appeale page 154. hee maketh Circumcision [a sacrament sometime institu­ted by God] a marke of the Beast; and [to make all correspondent] he placeth, or must place the foreskin to be cut off in the forehead, or the hand: for there was the marke of the Beast receiued, Apoc. 14. 9.

If the Appealer did bethinke himselfe, how open he lyeth to the lash, I perswade [Page 49] my selfe he would plucke away many cords from the cruell whip of his pen. He scour­geth from the first page to the last, through­out his booke, the novellizing puritans; and in that ranke, [take it as they will] not only our accomplished Doctors, but our reuerend Pre­lates: Tantum non in Episcopatu Puritani, are disciplined by him, Appeale page 111. A man would thinke, that, as it was said of Luther, that couetousnesse was not incident to his nature, [he had such a peculiar anti­pathy to that vice:] So the Appealer (what­soeuer other imputation he might bee lyable vnto) could not be charged, no not by ma­lice it selfe, with Puritanisme. Citiùs crimen honestum, quàm turpem Catonem feceris; There is such an antipathy in his nature to that hu­mour. Yet see a pang and flash of Amster­damian zeale, Answer to Gagg page 92. The Corinthian was restored without a Bishops seale; a Commissaries direction to the Parson. He payed no rate, no fees for restitution, or standing rectus in Curiâ. Is not this a spoone-feather of the Martinists brood, a bitter scoffe at the practice of our Ecclesiasticall Courts? Howsoeuer, if the Appealer had onely trod a little awry, either [Page 50] in the high path of popery, or by-path of purita­nisme; I, for mine owne part, would haue borne with it; and that in respect of his other­wise commendable parts, and profitable paines in the Church: but when he halteth downe right betweene two religions, none, that desireth [...] to walke with a right foot, can endure him.

And doth he not limpe? nay doth he not halt downe-right? doth he not weare a Lin­sie-woolsy garment, Answer to Gagg page. 13. and 14? Truth is of two sorts amongst men, manifest, and confessed truth; or more obscure, and involved truth. In his quae apertè posita sunt in Scripturis, inveniuntur illa omnia, quae continent fidem morés que vivendi, spem scilicet & charita­tem. Plainly deliuered in Scripture are all those points, which belong vnto Faith, and Manners, Hope and Charity, to wit. And accordingly I doe know no obscurity vpon these: I know none of these controuerted inter partes: The Articles of our Creed are confessed on both sides, and held plaine enough. The controuerted points are of a larger, and inferiour alloy: of them a man may bee igno­rant, without any danger of his soule at all. A man may resolue, or oppose this way, or that way, with­out [Page 51] perill of perishing for euer. &c.] It is most euident in this place, that the parties, he spea­keth of, are the Papists and we: for there are no other haue any triall in this Chapter or matter of debate. By [partes] in many other places of his booke he vnderstandeth Papists and Protestants: and here he cannot meane any other, but the Gagger and his complices on the one side; and the Protestant Church on the other side, as the antecedents and con­sequents doe manifest.

Now if the differences betweene the pa­pists and vs, are of such an inferiour alloye, that little reckoning is to be made of them, be­cause they adde nothing to, or take nothing from the summe of sauing knowledge; how much haue all the reformed Churches in Christendome to answer at the dreadful Tri­bunall of Christ, for making so great a rent in Christs seamlesse coat, vpon so small occasion? If the controuerted points be like herbe Iohn in the pot, that may be in, or out, without pe­rill at all; why haue all our Prophets, (sithence Luther at least) cryed, Mors in ollâ, mors in ollâ, Death in the pot: O blessed Martyrs, who si­thence the beginning of Reformation haue [Page 52] watred the seed of the Gospell with your blood, put off your long white robes, and garlands, and put on sackcloth, and ashes; for you dyed vpon no good ground, you shed not your blood in zeale, but spilt it in folly: Martyrs you may be of schisme, or ob­stinacy, or indiscretion, but not of faith; if those points, you suffered for, belonged not at all to faith. Plin. paneg. Diffido oculis meis, & identidem in­terrogo, an legerim, an viderim: I suspect mine eyes, I question my Copy, I demand of my selfe againe and againe; Is it possible a Diuine of no inferiour alloy, should vtter such an incredible paradoxe? wee dissent from the Church of Rome about Christ and his offi­ces, the foundation of faith; the Scriptures, the rule of faith; the Church, the subiect of faith; the Sacraments, the seales of faith; ius­tification, the proper effect of faith; and good workes, the fruit of faith: nay wee contest about the very nature, and essence of faith. And are none of these matters of faith? doe none of these belong to faith, or manners? If our debates are, de tribus capellis, about the fringe, not the Spouse coat; about the barke, and not the body of Religion; then hath not [Page 53] the Church of Rome erred in matter of faith; and if she hath not, then the Church of Eng­land hath erred, in charging her with error, not onely in matter of ceremony, and discipline, but also in matter of faith, Art. 19. If the Church of England hath erred in this Article, the Appealers false oathes must needs be answe­rable to his degrees and preferments, for so oft hath he sworne to that Article among the rest. But he yeeldeth vs a reason, [The Articles of our Creed are confessed on both sides, and held plaine enough.] on both sides? hee might say, on all sides, and hands: For the Arrians in Polonia, the Antitimitarians in Transiluania, the Nestorians in Greece, the Anabaptists and Socinians in the Netherlands, doe all rehearse the Articles of the Creed, and hold them plaine enough. Let him peruse al the bedrol of heretikes, condemned by the Church of God in all ages, drawne by Irenae­us, Epiphanius, S. Augustine, Philastrius, Al­fonsus a Castro, and others, and he shall hardly pitch vpon any sort of Heretickes, that di­rectly either denyed, or articled against the Articles of the Apostles Creed. And will he say none of these erred in matter of faith? but all [Page 54] were and are in (regiâ viâ) the high way to heauen? If hee answer, that the heretickes, though they professed the Articles of the A­postles Creed, totidem verbis, in the very words; yet they denyed, or depraued the sense, and brought in damnable errours, by conse­quence ouerthrowing those foundations of our faith: Our reply is at hand. As the grea­ter part of ancient heretickes, so at this day the Papists, confesse the Articles of the Creed, and hold them plaine truth; but they mis­interpret them, and by consequence shake, if not quite ouerthrow diuers of them. Ei­ther they, or we, misinterpret those three ar­ticles especially, concerning the Catholike Church, the Communion of Saints, the forgiue­nesse of sinnes; to which their great Champion, [...], reduceth all the con­trouersies betweene our Church, and theirs. And for vndermining the articles of our Creed by consequences, and maintaining repugnances to them, th [...] Romish Pioners are not farre behind the ancient enemies of our faith. Manes and Vorstius doe not directly impugne the article touching God the Almigh­ty Creator; nor Mar [...]ion, Arrius, Apollinaris, [Page 55] Eutiches, Nestorius, and Socinus, the article concerning Christ the Redeemer; nor Macedo­nius, and the Pneumatomachi, the article con­cerning the holy Ghost; but they held such doctrine, which was not comportable with those articles. And how the Romish doc­trine of Invocation of Saints, and Angels, may stand with the first article rightly expounded [I beleeue in God]; and their doctrine of Iusti­fication by inherent righteousnesse, with the se­cond [and in Iesus Christ]; and of transub­stantiation, with the article of Christ his Incar­nation, and Ascension; and of a Catholick visible Romish Church vnder one visible Head, with that [I beleeue the holy Catholicke Church]; and of vncertainty of saluation, with those [I beleeue the remission of sins, and life euerlasting]; I desire to bee enformed by the Appealer, which I could neuer yet bee by any Roma­nist. Vpon this most false and deceiueable ground [that the differences (inter partes) are not in matters de fide] hee buildeth two most dangerous assertions [that a man may be ignorant of them without any perill of his soule at all: and, A man may resolue or oppose this way or that way without perill of perishing.] Tum maxi­mè [Page 56] oppugnaris, si te oppugnari nescis: The grea­test danger of all is, when in place of danger wee suspect none. A man that enters into a plaguy house, if he know not of it, is more subiect to infection through his carelesse boldnesse. And they, who speake fauourably of the Romish Church, compare it to a Pest-house, in which yet through Gods extraordinary mercy a man may be without mortall infe­ction, but cannot possibly be without dan­ger. If there be no danger in Romish Schools and Temples; if a man may be at Masse, and incurre no perill of Idolatry, in the adoration of the Hoste, inuocation of Saints, worshipping of I­mages, Reliques, and the like: blot out all the parts of the largest and learnedst Homily in all the booke, intituled, Against perill of Idola­trie. Here I appeale to the Appealers consci­ence; Is it no perill at all to the soule of man, to be ignorant, which are the true inspired Scriptures? which is the true Church? which are the Sacraments instituted by Christ? what is the pure worship of God in spirit, and truth? what are the prerogatiues of Christ, and priui­ledges of his Saints? what is that faith we are justified, and saued by? All these, and many [Page 57] more, are controuerted points; and doe none of these strengthen, or weaken our title to the Kingdome of Heauen? I haue no commission to inlarge the bowels of my Sauiour; and most vnwilling am I to straiten them, or close vp his side against such ignorant per­sons, who neuer had, nor could haue means to come to the full light of the Gospell: yet I am not ignorant,Aug. de gr [...]t. & lib. arbi [...]. c. 3. what Saint Augustines iudg­ment is euen of inuincible ignorance in points of faith; Sed & illa ignorantia, quae non est eorū, qui scire nolunt, sed eorum, qui tantum simpliciter scire nesciunt, neminem sic excusat, ut sempiterno igne non ardeat; si propterea non credidit, quia non audivit omnino, quod crederet, &c. Not wil­full ignorance, no not simple nescience can priui­ledge any from euerlasting fire, although he there­fore beleeued not, because he neuer heard, what he should beleeue. For that of the Psalmist is not with­out ground, Powre out thy wrath O God on those nations, that know thee not: nor that of the Apostle, when he shall come in flaming fire, to render ven­geance to them, who know not God. But the Ap­pealer restraineth not his assertion to inuin­cible ignorance, be it affected ignorance, nay be it resolued errour in the controuerted points, it [Page 58] no way, in his iudgement, indangereth eter­nall saluation; either there is no crimen, or at least discrimen, in treading in either path, for he saith, [A man may resolue or oppose, this way or that way, without perill of perishing for euer: Answer to Gagg pag. 14.] A braue resolution of a Protestant Diuine, to resolue, that a resolute Papist, a professed opposite to the doctrine of the Gospell, may goe away cleare with it, and not at all stumble at that stone, on which whosoeuer fal­leth, he shall be broken; but on whomsoeuer it shall fall, it will grinde him to powder. Matt. 21. 44. I desire to be satisfied, whether doth the Ap­pealer beleeue, that the Articles of Religion established in our Church by Authority, stan­ding in direct opposition, as they doe, to the Trent decisions, are expresly contained in the Scriptures, or may be euidently deduced from thence, or not? If not▪ then, according to the sixt article of the sufficiency of the holy Scrip­tures for saluation, they are no articles of faith, or religion. If they are expresly contained in holy Scriptures, or may be euidently deduced from thence, then they are Gods truth, set downe in his owne word; And is there no danger in resoluing against God, in opposing [Page 59] his word, in siding against that truth? which shall stand, and abide when heauen and earth shall passe away. I grant, euery doctrine con­tained in Scripture is not absolutely necessary to saluation; yet in the generall, this is a doctrine most necessary to saluation, to beleeue, that all doctrine of Scripture is vndoubtedly true; and that to deny any part of Scripture, and much more deliberately to oppugne, and wilfully to oppose, is dangerous, yea damnable. And for the controuerted points in particular, the denying of the truth in them,Panta [...]con in his h [...]sto­rie. lay so heauy on Latomus, & Franciscus Spira his conscience, on their death-beds, that in a fearful conflict of despaire, by reason of the hainousnesse of that sinne, they mise­rably gaue vp the ghost. And Minaerius Gal­lus, for mainly opposing the doctrine of the Gospell, was so tormented with a burning in his bowels, that he had, as it were, a sense of the very paines of Hell-fire euen in this life. I tremble to rehearse what Aubignius re­porteth in his history, concerning a late great King beyond the Sea, who, after he had em­braced the Romish faith, and renounced the pure doctrine of the Gospell, was exceedingly [Page 60] perlexed in mind, and troubled in consci­ence; and aduised with his bosome friend (adiuring him to deale faithfully with him) whether, or no, in that his action of deser­ting the faith of the reformed Church, he had not committed the impardonable sinne against the holy Ghost.

To illustrate this point, (concerning the necessity of departing out of Babylon, and perill of remaining in her,) let vs borrow a ray, Iuel. Apol. part. 6. c. 6. diuis. 1. or beame of a true Iewel: Wee haue done nothing in altering Religion vpon either rashnesse or arrogancy; nay nothing, but with good leisure, and mature deliberation; neither had we euer in­tended so to doe, except both the manifest, and as­sured will of God reuealed to vs in holy Scripture, and regard of our own saluation, had euen constrai­ned vs thereunto. This indeed is the lustre of a true Iewel:Answer to Gag. pag. 50 but the false Diamond glareth on this wise: The present Church of Rome hath al­wayes continued firme in the same foundation of doctrine, and sacraments instituted by God, and acknowledgeth, and imbraceth communion with the ancient, and vndoubted Church of Christ; wherefore she cannot be other, or diuerse from it, for she remaines still Christs Church and Spouse. [Page 61] As in Ceiland, they say, A Snake lurketh vn­der euery leafe; so wee may truly say of this passage of the Appealer, there is poysonous error, and Satanicall doctrine in euerie line.

First, 1 Errour. it is an errour of dangerous conse­quence, to affirme, that the present Church of Rome holdeth the same foundation with the ancient and primitiue Church. For, the present Church of Rome holdeth the twelue new Articles, added to the Apostles Creed; mentioned in Pope Pius his Bull,Adiect. ad Calcem con­cil. Trident. as fundamentall points, and ne­cessary to saluation. The oath prescribed by the Pope runnes thus: Caetera item omnia à sa­cris Canonibus, & Oecumenicis Conciliis, ac prae­cipuè à sacrosanctâ Tridentinâ Synodo tradita, definita, & declarata, indubitanter recipio; at (que) profiteor, simúlque contraria omnia, at (que) haereses quascunque ab Ecclesiâ damnatas, & rejectas, & anathematizatas, ego pariter damno, rejicio, & anathematizo. Hanc veram Catholicam fidem (extra quam nemo salvus esse potest) quam in prae­senti sponte profiteor, & veraciter teneo, eandem integram & inviolatam us (que) ad extremum vitae spiritum constantissimè (Deo juvante) retineri, & confiteri, at (que) à meis subditis, vel illis, quorum cura ad me in munere meo spectabit, retineri, doce­ri, [Page 62] & praedicari, quantum in me erit curabo.

Whence I thus argue: First, In this forme of oath the twelue new Articles, together with the rest of the definitions of the Councell of Trent, are made part of the Catholicke faith, (which except a man beleeue faithfully, he cannot be saued:) but neither these twelue new articles, nor any of them, were held as true by the ancient Church, much lesse as points fundamentall, and de fide; therefore the present Church of Rome holdeth not the same intire foundation of faith with the ancient.

Secondly, the ancient Church of Rome held the Scriptures to be the onely perfect infallible rule of faith, and foundation of sauing doctrine, (as is plentifully proued by Iuel,Iuel. def. Apol. p. 195 c. 9. diu. 1. Rainolds cont Hart. c. 8. sect. 1. & thes. 1. sect. 3. & Apol. thes. sect 2 p. 29. Bilson of su­prem p [...]rt. 4 pag. 361. Kemnis Ex­am. Conc. Trid. part. 1 Morney praes. de sa crâ Euchar. Iohn White in his way to the Church. digres. 3 p. 13. Fr. White Answ. to F [...]sh. r. p. 32. Culuin An­tidot. Sess 4. p. 370. Saaeel quaest. 1. Danaeus & Inni [...]s [...]d 1 controuers. Bellar. l 4. c. 3. Rainolds, Bilson, Kemnisius, Morney, D. Francis White, and di­uers others,) but the present Church of Rome holdeth otherwise, [making vnwritten traditions part of the foundation of faith, which, they say, is built partly vpon the written, and partly vpon the vnwritten word of God;] Therefore the pre­sent Church of Rome holdeth not the same entire foundation of faith, with the ancient.

Thirdly, the articles of the Apostles Creed, rightly expounded, and taken in the sense and mea­ning of the Holy Ghost, were the foundation of the [Page 63] ancient Churches faith; But the present Church of Rome holdeth not the articles of the Apostles Creed rightly expounded, and taken in the sense and mea­ning of the Holy Ghost; therefore the present Church of Rome holdeth not the same foundation with the ancient Church.

The proposition, or major, is not denied: the assumption may bee euidently proued, by instancing in some of the prime Articles.

The first article [I beleeue in God] rightly expounded, teacheth vs that we ought to re­pose our confidence in God, and him onely; not vpon any Creature, Saint, or Angell; and therefore not to call vpon them; the conse­quence is the Apostles, Rom. 10. How shall they call on him, in whom they haue not beleeued? this Article thus expounded, the present Church of Rome beleeueth not.

Secondly, Faith in Iesus Christ, rightly vn­derstood, signifieth affiance in Christ for salua­tion, or a relying vpon Christ, with an assured perswasion for remission of sinnes, through his me­rits, and satisfaction. This interpretation of faith in Christ, the present Church of Rome is so farre from admitting,Conc. Trid. Sess 6. can. 12. that it accurseth all those, who teach, the nature of justifying [Page 64] faith to consist in this affiance, or confidence.

Thirdly, the Incarnation of Christ, rightly expounded, implyeth, that Christ was once, and but once made of a pure Virgin, a true and perfect man like vnto vs in all things, sinne onely excepted, Heb. 2. 17. & 4. 15. And the Coun­cell of Calcedon, in the fift Act against Euti­ches, accurseth all those, who deny, that Christ retaineth still the properties of his humane na­ture, (such as the shape of man, proportion, dimension, circumscription, &c.) This ar­ticle thus expounded, is not assented to by the Church of Rome; for the Romanists teach, that Christ is made in the Sacrament by the Priest. The learneder Iesuits are not content with the adducing, or bringing of Christ into the Sa­crament, Bellar. re­tract.where he was not before; [for that, say they, were onely a translocation, not a tran­substantiation; a locall motion, not a substantiall mutation,] but in expresse words maintaine a new production of Christs body made of bread.

Againe they teach, that Christs body in the Sacrament, is whole in the whole, and wholy in e­uery part of the Host; which is impossible, if, according to the definition of the Councell of Calcedon, he retaine the properties of his hu­mane [Page 65] nature; to wit, extension of parts, pro­portion of limmes, distinction of members, &c. Whence I argue, They, who teach that Christ hath a body inuisible, indiuisible, insensible, impassible, ouerthrow the verity of his humane nature, and consequently deny the article of his Incarnation: But the Church of Rome teacheth that Christ (in the Sacrament, to wit,) hath a body inuisible, indiuisible, insensible, &c. There­fore the Church of Rome ouerthroweth the verity of Christ his humane nature, and consequently, de­nieth the article of his Incarnation. Fourthly, the article of Christ his Ascension rightly vnder­stood, importeth that Christ is so ascended from the earth, that hee is not now vpon earth, but is contained, (according to his bo­dily presence, and humane nature) in the hea­uens, Act. 3. 21. This article is not thus held by the Church of Rome; for the Romanists teach, that Christ euen according to his humane nature, and bodily presence, is vpon earth in euery Church, on euery Altar where the sacrifice of the Masse is offered, besides priuate houses, to which the Sacrament is caried: so that by this their Doctrine, Christ is more vpon earth since his Ascension, then before. Before his Ascension [Page 66] he was onely in one Country, and at one time, according to his bodily presence, but in one particular place: but since his Ascensi­on, Counc. Trent Sess. 13 ch. 1. according to their beliefe, he is truely, real­ly, and substantially in a million of places, viz. euery where in their offertory, after the words of Consecration: whence I argue. They who be­leeue and teach, that Christ God & man, according to his bodily presence, is vpon earth since his Ascen­sion into heauen, deny that he is contained in hea­uen, and consequently ouerthrow the article of his Ascension: But the Romanists beleeue and teach, that Christ God and man, according to his bodily presence, is vpon earth since his Ascension into heauen; Therefore the Romanists deny that hee is contained in heauen, and consequently ouerthrow the article of his Ascension. The first propositi­on, or major, is grounded vpon the Angels Argument, Mat. 28. 6. (He is not here, for he is risen:) the testimony of S. Peter, Acts 3. 21. (whom the heauens must containe:) S. Austins resolution, A [...]g. lib. 20 contra Fau­stum Ma­nich, c. 11. [Christ, according to his bodily pre­sence, cannot be, at the same time, in the Sunne, and Moone, and vpon the Crosse:] the inference of Vigilius,Lib. 4. con­tra Euiyche­tem. (when Christ was in the flesh vpon earth, he was not in heauen; and now because hee [Page 67] is in heauen, he is not therefore vpon earth.) If Christs body could at the same time bee in more places, the Angels argument were of no force; for, (his existence in more places then one at the same time being granted) he might be risen, and in Ierusalem, and yet at the same instant be there, where the Angell affirmeth he was not, to wit, in the graue. If Christ may be vpon earth in his body, and in heauen at the same time, then is not he contained in the Heauens; for it implieth a contradiction, that his body should be contained in, and yet be without the Heauens at the same time. If his body may bee in more places then one at once, then he might haue been at the instant of his passion in the Sun, and Moon, & vpon the Crosse, which S. Augustine concludes to bee absolutely impossible. And if Christ in his flesh may be both in heauen and earth at the same instant, Vigilius his reason hath no strength at all, to wit, (because he is in heauen, therefore he is not vpon earth.) To conclude, if it be im­possible that Christ his body should bee at the same instant in heauen and vpon earth, as the testimonies of the Angel, S. Peter, S. Augustine, and Vigilius aboue alleadged, declare; and if [Page 68] all Papists teach, that Christs body, after words of Consecration, is truely, really, and substantially vpon earth handled with the hands, and eaten with the mouthes of Communicants; they must needes consequently deny his bodily presence, and be­ing at the right hand of his Father in Heauen. Fiftly, the article of the Catholike Church, right­ly expounded, signifieth the whole company of Gods elect; which is the onely Catholike (inui­sible) Church, wee beleeue, (for the visible Church is an obiect of sense, and therefore not properly an article of faith.) This true in­terpretation of the article, the Romanists are so farre from admitting, that in the Councell of Constance,Cocl. histor. Bohemi. lib. 3. they condemned Iohn Husse of heresie, for maintaining it. Whence I thus ar­gue: They who make the visible Church to be the catholike Church which wee beleeue, misbeleeue the article touching the Catholike Church; But the Romanists make the visible Church to be the Ca­tholike Church, which wee beleeue; Therefore the Romanists misbeleeue the article touching the ca­tholike Church.

The first proposition, or major, is proued by the words of the Apostle, 2 Cor. 5. 7. We walke by faith, and not by sight. and Heb. 11. 1. [Page 69] Faith is the euidence of things not seene. The Church therefore, which we beleeue, cannot be the visible Church. Campian reason. 3. The assumption is the assertion of all Papists, who are so farre from beleeuing, that they scoffe and laugh at an inuisible Church, as a meere phantasme, or Plato­nicall Idaea.

Sixtly, the foure last articles of the Apostles creed [the communion of Saints, the forgiuenesse of sins, the resurrection of the dead, and life euer­lasting] rightly expounded, import not only, that there is a communion of Saints, and remissi­on of sinnes in the Church, and a resurrection of the faithfull to eternall life; [which the Deuills themselues doe, and cannot but beleeue] but that euery true beleeuer, who rehearseth these articles, doth, and ought to beleeue, that hee hath a part in the communion of Saints, hath obtained remission of his sinnes, and shall at the last day rise to life eternall. [...] This interpretati­on of these articles is condemned by the Pa­pists as hereticall. Whence we thus argue a­gainst them:

They, who deny that a man is bound to be­leeue, that he is of the number of the elect, or that his sinnes are vndoubtedly forgiuen [Page 70] him, &c. ouerthrow the foure articles a­boue mentioned, according to their true meaning.

But the Romanists deny, that a man is bound to beleeue, that he is of the number of the Elect, or that his sinnes are vndoubtedly forgiuen him, &c.

Therefore the Romanists ouerthrow the foure articles aboue mentioned, according to their true meaning.

Secondly,2 Errour. it is a dangerous errour, to af­firme, that the present Church of Rome hol­deth the same foundation of Sacraments with the Ancient Church. Which I proue, first:

They who maintain seuen Sacraments pro­perly so called, hold not the same foundation of Sacraments, with that church which held but two onely:

But the present church of Rome maintaines seauen Sacraments properly so called, the Ancient church of Rome held but two onely: Therefore the present church of Rome hol­deth not the same foundation of Sacraments, with that church.

The first proposition, or major, if it bee [Page 71] not euident in it selfe, may be thus confir­med. The fiue Sacraments which the Roma­nists adde, cannot be built vpon that founda­tion, which beareth but two onely: therefore those fiue Sacraments are built vpon another different foundation, or vpon no foundation at all. The second proposition or assumption is generally proued by all Protestant writers that handle this question, with whom the Appealer professeth euery where to hold faire quarter.

Secondly, I proue it thus;

Whosoeuer maintaineth an error ouerthrow­ing the nature of a Sacrament, holdeth not the same foundation of Sacraments with the Ancient church:

But the present church of Rome maintaineth an error ouerthrowing the nature of a Sacra­ment;

Therfore the present church of Rome holdeth not the same foundation of Sacraments with the Ancient church.

The first proposition is euident in it selfe; for nothing can be more fundamentall to a Sacrament, then that which concernes the nature and essence of a Sacrament; nothing [Page 72] more destructiue, or euersiue then that, which ouerthroweth the very essence, and substance of it.

The second proposition, is contained to­tidem verbis, in expresse words in the articles of religion of the Church of England, Artic. 28. Transubstantiation, or the change of the sub­stance of bread and wine, [a doctrine de fide in the Church of Rome, defined both by the Councell of Lateran, and the Councell of Trent] in the supper of the Lord, cannot be proued by holy Writ, but it is repugnant to the plain words of Scripture, ouerthroweth the nature of a Sacra­ment, and hath giuen occasion to many superstitions.

Thirdly, it is proued thus:

Whosoeuer holdeth an errour concerning Christs ordinance, and institution of the Sa­craments, erreth in the foundation of Sacra­ments, and therein differeth from the anci­ent Church:

But the present Church of Rome holdeth an errour concerning Christs ordinance and in­stitution of the Sacraments;

Therefore the present Church of Rome er­reth in the foundation of Sacraments, and therein differeth from the ancient Church.

[Page 73] The first proposition is cleare; for Christs order and institution is the foundation of the Sacraments, and therefore an error concer­ning it must needs be fundamentall in point of Sacrament. The second proposition or assumption, is set downe in Article 30. Both parts of the Sacrament by Christs ordinance and commandement ought to be ministred to all christi­an men alike; which assertion touching Christs ordinance, the present Church of Rome erroneously denieth, and defineth the contrary in the Councell of Constance and Trent.

Thirdly, 3 Errour. it is a dangerous errour, to af­firme, that the present church of Rome is not di­uerse from the ancient vndoubted church of Christ. Which I proue. First thus,

Whatsoeuer Church hath most shamefully gone from the Apostles, from Christ himselfe, from the Primitiue and catholike church of God, and hath vtterly forsaken the Catho­like faith, is vndoubtedly diuerse from the ancient true church of Christ;

The present church of Rome hath most shamefully gone from the Apostles, from Christ himselfe, from the primitiue and [Page 74] catholike church of God, and hath vtterly for­saken the catholike faith.

Therefore the present church of Rome is vndoubtedly diuerse from the ancient true church of Christ.

The first proposition is most euident: the se­cond proposition is verbatim in the Apology of the Church of England, part 5. ch. 16. Diu. 1. and part 6. ch. 22. Diuis. 2. This Apology of the Church of England, as it beareth the name, so it hath euer beene accounted the Doctrine of the Church of England. When it was first printed in the daies of Queene Elizabeth, it was commanded to bee had in all Churches; and since was reprinted with the like command to be had in euery Parish Church in this Kingdome, in the yeare of our Lord, 1611. by our late Soueraigne King Iames, whoSee the Preface to the King, pend by Bishop O­uerall, in the end. gaue a most singular testimony and approbation of Bishop Iewels workes, for the most rare and admirable that haue beene written in this last age of the world: and also gaue spe­ciall direction to the late Archbishop of Canterbury, Bishop Bancroft, to appoint some oneThe life was pen­ned by D. F. then a Student in C. C. C. to write his, the said Bishops life in English, and prefixe it to his workes, [Page 75] which accordingly is done in the last edition.

Secondly, I proue it, thus;

Whatsoeuer Church is fallen away from Christ his Kingdome and Doctrine, is not the same with, but diuerse from the ancient vndoubted church of Christ.

The present church of Rome is fallen away from Christ his Kingdome and Doctrine;

Therefore the present church of Rome is not the same with, but diuerse from the ancient vndoubted church of Christ.

The first proposition cannot bee denied; the assumption is the Appealers, Appeale pag. 149. In Apostasie the Turke and Pope are both interessed; both are departed away; whether wee take that apostacie to bee a departing away from Christ, and his Kingdome, and his Doctrine: or whether wee vnderstand apostacie and defection from the Romane Empire, &c. page 150.

Thirdly, I proue it thus;

No Church maintaining & practising Idola­try, can be the same with the ancient Church that worshipped God in spirit and truth:

The present Church of Rome maintaineth and practiseth idolatry:

Therefore the present Church of Rome can­not [Page 76] be the same with the ancient Church that worshipped God in spirit and truth.

The first proposition is the Apostles, 2 Cor. 6. 16. what agreement hath the Temple of God with Idols? The assumption is proued at large in the Homily against the perill of Idolatry, confirmed to bee the Doctrine of the Church of England, Artic. 35. The Homi­lies, and by name the Homily (the second against perill of idolatry) containeth godly and wholesome doctrine. If godly and wholesome Doctrine, then certainely true.

Fourthly, 4 Errour. it is a dangerous error to affirme, as the Appealer doth, Answer to Gagge page 50. That the present Church of Rome remaineth Christi Ecclesia et Sponsa. Christs Church and Spouse. That God hath his Church euen in Rome we doe not deny; but that the pre­sent Romane Church, specially since the Councell of Trent, holding the cursing and accursed Canons of that Conuenticle, or that the Papacy, that is, the Pope with his Clergy and their adherents, are Christs Church and Spouse, the Appealer is the first Protestant that euer for ought I know, affir­med it. Iunius (whom he alleadgeth, Appeale, [Page 77] pag. 113. to this purpose) in his booke De Ecclesiâ, is so farre from supporting his asser­tion, that in the same booke hee quite ouer­throweth it: his words are, pag. 60. & 61. Ecclesiamultis seculis fuit, cùm Papatus non esset; accessit ei Papatus contingenter, & sic ab ea se­parabilis, ut hoc etiam tempore Ecclesiae sint ubi Papatus non est, & sine Papatu deinceps futurae sint. Papatus igitur non est Ecclesia, sed in Eccle­siâ est adnatum malu [...], pestis, hydrops, gangraena in corpore, vitae atque saluti ejus insidians, ideo (que) succum vitalem salutarémque Ecclesiae depascens quàm infestissimè. The Church of God was many ages when there was no Papacy at all; as at this day also there are Churches where there is no Pa­pacy: and will be hereafter without the Papacy. The Papacy therefore is not the Church, but a dis­ease or botch growne to or in the Church, a plague, a dropsy, a gangreene in the body, indangering the health, feeding vpon, and infesting the healthfull moisture and vitall blood of the Church. And within a few lines after in the same page fol­low the words on which the Appealer wholly relyeth, Appeale page 113. The Pa­pall Church, (saith Franciscus Iunius▪ neither Papist, nor Arminian) quâ id habet in se quod [Page 78] ad Ecclesiae definitionem pertinet, est Ecclesia. As it hath that in it which belongs to the definition of a Church, is a Church. Why doth the Appea­ler stop in the middle of a sentence? why doth he not goe on to the full period? the sentence is yet but lame, he hath put out but the left legge, I will put out the right legge for him, wherewith Iunius giues Popery a kicke, and trips vp the Appealers heeles: Qud vero habet in se adnatum malum, quod Papalita­tem dicimus, eo respectu Ecclesia non est, sed vitia­ta atque corrupta Ecclesia & ad interitum tendens; But the Church of Rome as it hath a disease or e­uill growne to it, which we call the Papacy, in that respect it is not the Church, but a vitiate and cor­rupt church, and tending to ruine.

Note here Reader, in the Appealers de­fence of Popery a tricke of Popery, to cite sentences by halfes, alleadging onely that which in shew makes for them, and concea­ling that which in truth makes against them. The meaning of the whole sentence of Iuni­us is cleare enough for vs, and against the Ap­pealer: to wit, that the Church of Rome so farre as it is Protestant, and holdeth some fundamentall truths agreeable to the Scrip­tures, [Page 79] is a Church: but as it is Popish, and addeth many errors to those truths, conse­quently subuerting those very truths it hol­deth, it is no Church. Which I thus proue:

No Spouse or true church of Christ is in part or in whole that Antichrist, or whore of Babylon:

The present church of Rome, as it is taken for the Papacy or Popish state thereof, is in part (as the Appealer confesseth, Appeale pag. 149.) or in whole, (as manySee be­fore in the Table, Ar­tic. de Antichristo. Pillars of our Church haue taught,) that Antichrist, or whore of Babylon;

Therefore the present church of Rome, as it is taken for the Papacy or popish state there­of, is no Spouse nor true church of christ.

I haue heard that the Appealer in a late conference (wherein this passage, on which I haue so long insisted, was obiected against him) should stand at this ward, answering for himselfe, that these words [praesens Eccle­sia Romana eodem fundamento doctrinae & Sacra­mentorum firma semper constitit, &c. & manet enim Christi Ecclesia & Sponsa: Answ. to Gag. page 50.] were not his owne words, but the words of Cassander. This his ward will [Page 80] not keepe off the blow. For first, he allead­geth this sentence in approbation thereof, and commendation of the Author: [mode­rate men, saith he, ibid. on both sides, confesse this controuersy may cease:] [hee should haue said, luke-warme men on both sides.] Secondly, he resteth on this passage as being a full an­swer to the Popish obiection concerning the visibility of the Church. Thirdly, in other pla­ces of his booke, Appeale page 113. and 139. and 140. he affirmeth in his owne words, as much in effect, as he here coteth, linguâ Ro­manâ out of Cassander, but fide Graecâ. His words are, page 113. I am absolutely perswa­ded, and shall be, till I see cause to the contrary, that the church of Rome is a true, though not a sound church of Christ, as well since as before the Coun­cell of Trent; a part of the catholike, though not the catholike church, which wee doe professe to beleeue in our Creed: In essentialls and fundamentalls they agree, holding one faith in one Lord. And p. 139 Rome is and euer was a true church, since it was a church. And page 140. the church of Rome is a true church, ratione essentiae, and be­ing of a church, not a sound church euery way in their Doctrine. Vt Marci Antonij de Dominis di­scipulum [Page 81] possis agnoscere: I know well the mint where these new tenents were coined: the Appealer shewes himselfe a tractable and respectiue Prebend to his late Deane, fol­lowing him pene ad aras, neere to the Romish Altars. That his Deane, after his relapse into Popery, in the last booke, containing his poe­nitendam poenitentiam, et retractandam retra­ctationem, his repentance to be repented of, and retractation to bee retracted, renouncing the true religion which he had defended, labou­reth to cleare the present church of Rome from the imputation of heresie, because, as he saith, the wi­ser and learneder Ministers of the church of Eng­land teach, that the church of Rome doth not erre in any fundamentall articles of faith. In defectu credendi haeresis est, non in excessu; haereti­cus est censendus qui in fide deficit, aliquid quod scriptum est non credendo; non is qui in fide superabundat, plus quam scriptum est credendo: Heresie consists in the defect, not in the excesse of beleeuing; and he is an Heretike, who is deficient in his faith, by not beleeuing some­thing that is written; not he that superabounds in his faith by beleeuing more then is written. This errour (as I am informed) spreads farre like [Page 82] a Gangreane, therefore most needfull it is it be lookt to in time. It is true that the Church of Rome holdeth, if not all, yet most of the fundamentall and positiue articles with vs. It is true also, that most of their errours are by way of addition: Yet whosoeuer from hence will conclude, that the Church of Rome is not hereticall, or erreth not in any point ne­cessary to saluation, grossely mistaketh the matter, as will appeare to any, whose iudge­ment is not forestalled, by the demonstrati­on of these two conclusions.

1 That Heresy or damnable Errour may be as well by adding to, as taking from the Orthodoxe faith.

2 That the Church of Rome erreth not onely in excesse, or beleeuing more then is needfull, but also in defect and beleeuing lesse.

The first is thus demonstrated;

Whatsoeuer errours are alike forbidden in Scripture vnder the same punishment, are alike damnable:

Errors by adding to, and detracting from the Orthodoxe faith, are alike forbidden in Scripture vnder the same punishment;

[Page 83] Therefore errours by adding to and detrac­ting from the Orthodoxe faith, are alike damnable.

The first proposition is cleare by it owne light. The assumption or second propositi­on is deliuered expresly in holy Scripture. Deut. 42. Ye shall not adde vnto the words which I command you, neither shall you diminish ought from it. Proverb. 30. 5. 6. Euery word of God is pure, adde thou not vnto his words, lest he reproue thee. Galat. 1. 18. If we or an Angell from hea­uen preach vnto you beside that which wee haue preached vnto you, let him be accursed. Reuel. 22. 18. For I testifie vnto euery man that heareth the words of the Prophesie of this Booke, If any man shall adde vnto these things, God shall adde vnto him the plagues that are written in this book. And if any man shall take away from the words of the booke of this Prophesie, God shall take away his part out of the Booke of Life, and out of the holy City, and from the things that are written in this Booke.

Secondly thus,

Whatsoeuer things alike destroy the nature of faith, are alike damnable:

Errours by addition and detraction, alike [Page 84] destroy the nature of Faith;

Therefore errors by addition and detraction are alike damnable.

The first proposition is vnquestionable. The assumption I declare thus: Faith is of the nature of a rule or certaine measure, to which if any thing be added, or taken away, it ceaseth to be that rule. Cùm credimus, saith Tertullian, Tertul. de Praescript. advers. Hae­ret. c. 8. c. 4. nihil desideramus ultra credere, prius enim hoc credimus, non esse quod ultra credere, de­beamus: Fides in regulâ posita est; nihil ultra scire est omnia scire. When we beleeue, we desire to beleeue no more; for wee first beleeue this, that there is nothing more we ought to beleeue. Faith is contained in a rule: to know nothing beyond it, is to know all things. Virtue is in the meane, vice as well in the ex­cesse, as in the defect. In our body the su­perabundance of humours is as dangerous as lacke of them; as many dye of Plethories, as of Consumptions. A hand or foot, which hath more fingers, or toes then ordinary, is a­like monstrous, as that which wanteth the due number. To vse their owne similitude; A foundation may be as well ouethrowne by laying on it more then it will beare, as by [Page 85] taking away that which is necessary to sup­port the building. Thirdly, thus:

The errours in faith and religion of the Sa­maritans, Malchamites, Athenians, Gala­tians, Ebionites, Nazarites, Quartadeci­mans, Manichees, and Nestorians, were dam­nable:

But all these seuerall errours were errours of addition;

Therefore errours of Addition are damnable.

The first proposition will not bee gaine­saied. For all these errours are branded as he­reticall or damnable, either by the Spirit of God in Scripture, or by the catholike christian Church. The Assumption will appeare in the suruay of those particular errors.

The Samaritans feared the Lord,2 King. 17. 33. and serued their owne Gods. The Malchamites worshipped and sware by the Lord,Zepha. 1. 5. and sware by Malcham. The Athenians worshipped the true God by the name of THE VNKNOWNE GOD, Acts 17. 23. 2. and withall worshipped Idols. Gal. 4. 9. The Gala­tians, Ebionites, Nazarites, and Quartade­cimans, beleeued the Gospell, yet retained also and obserued the legall ceremonies, But now, after ye haue knowne God, or rather are knowne [Page 86] of God, how turne ye againe to the weake and beg­gerly elements, whereunto ye desire againe to bee in bondage? saith Saint Paul of the Galatians, Ebionitae ceremonias adhuc legis retinent, pauperes interpretantur, et vere sensu paupe­res: The Ebionites still keepe the ceremonies of the Law,Haymo hist. Sacr. l. 3. c. 17. ex Eu­seb. histor. l. 3. c. 27. their name (Ebionites) by interpretation is poore men, and indeed such are they, poore and simple in theirvnderstanding, August. de haeres. ad quod vult Deum. God wot, saith Haymo. Nazaraei, dum volunt Iudaei esse, et Christiani, nec Iudaei sunt, nec Christiani. The Nazarites, whilest they will bee both Iewes and Christians, are indeed neither Iewes nor christians; saith S. Augustine. His scil: Quartadecimanis, Blastus accedens, Iudaismum vult introducere, Pas­cha enim dicit non aliter custodiendum esse, quàm secundum legem Moysis, quartadecimâ mensis; Quis autem nescit, quoniam Euangelica gratia e­uacuatur, si ad legem Christum redigit? Blastus adioyning himselfe to the Quartadecimans, would secretly bring in Iudaisme; for he saith, the Passe­ouer or Feast of Easter must no other wise be kept, then according to the law of Moses the fourteenth day of the Moneth.Tertul. de praescript. c. 53. Now who knoweth not, that the grace of the Gospell is made voyd; if Christ bee reduced to or ioyned with the Law? saith Tertul­lian. [Page 87] The Manichees held two chiefe first causes of all things,Cassander de reliquijs T [...]lag ad Iohan. A [...] Anno Dom. 431. as also two soules in man: as Cassander. The Nestorians held two persons in Christ, they denied not one; As the Ephesine Coun­cell.

The second conclusion [That the Church of Rome erreth not onely in excesse, or belee­uing more then is needfull, but also in defect, and beleeuing lesse] is proued: First, they beleeue not the Articles of the Apostles Creed, according to the true and full meaning: many speciall points of faith, contained in the A­postles Creed, and by necessary consequence, deduced from thence, are not assented vnto by the Romanists, as I shewed before.

Secondly, they beleeue not speciall and par­ticular affiance in Christs merits for saluation,Councell of Trent. can. 12. 13. S [...]s. 6. and consequently they beleeue not a justifying faith, or justification by such a faith: nay they condemne such a beleefe as heresy.

Thirdly, they hold not the formall founda­tion of faith: for albeit they beleeue the Scrip­tures, and some points of faith deduced out of them, yet they beleeue them not for them­selues, or the authority of the Scriptures, but be­cause the Church hath approued and com­manded [Page 88] them to bee thus receiued, and be­leeued. They beleeue not God and the Scrip­tures for themselues, but for the Popes sake: that is, in effect, they beleeue Christ for Anti­christ. Hence it is, that although God ex­presly forbids all vice, and commands all virtue,Bellar. lib. 4. de Rom. Pont. c. 5. Sect. Quod. yet Bellarmine saith, Si Papa erraret prae­cipiendo vitia, vel prohibendo virtutes, teneretur Ecclesia credere vitia esse bona, & virtutes esse malas, nisi vellit contra conscientiam peccare. If the Pope should erre by commanding vice, and forbidding virtue, (which is directly contrary to the whole scope, and tenor of ho­ly Scriptures) yet the Church is bound to be­leeue vice to be good, and virtue to be euill; vnlesse shee will sin against conscience. But Pope and Cardinall must pardon vs, if, as we are bound, we beleeue and obey God ra­ther then mā, who by the Prophet Esay saith, Woe vnto them that call evill good, Isaiah. 5. 20 and good evill, that put darknesse for light, and light for darkness, that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter.

By this time I see the Appealer totum in fer­mento, crying shame on the malice of his ad­uersaries that mistake him,Appeale p. 139. [Remember it lest you mistake my saying, or maliciously mistake it; [Page 89] the Church of Rome is a true Church ratione es­sentiae, and being of a Church, not a sound Church euery way in their doctrine.] I remember well this memento; neither can I forget the Ap­pealers syllogisme set downe in the same page: viz.

The Church of Rome hath euer beene vi­sible:

The Church of Rome is and euer was a true Church, since it was a Church;

Therefore the true Church hath beene vi­sible.

The Appealer cannot inferre the conclu­sion vpon the premisses, vnlesse in his minor or assumption he intend to make the Church of Rome more then a true Church; hee must make her the true Church, that is, not a parti­cular Church, but the Catholike, not a mem­ber, but the whole. The minor should bee thus altered, to make his syllogisme current.

The Church of Rome hath euer beene vi­sible:

The Church of Rome is the true Church;

Therefore the true Church hath euer beene visible.

The syllogisme thus being set vpon his [Page 90] true feet, any man may easily see the lame leg; The Church of Rome is neither the true Church, nor, as the Appealer confesseth, p. 140. a sound member of the true Church. As for the syllogisme made by the Appealer prout jacet in terminis, vpon which he would haue his friends and Informers to chew the cud, as they doe after Lectures. p. 139. Hee deserueth himselfe to be sent to the Vniuersity to chew the cud after a Logique Lecture, and learne to make a better syllogisme. For this his syllogisme is peccant tam formâ quàm materiâ, in matter and forme. To say nothing of mood and figure, which the Appealer, in the mood he was, little regarded; I say, (allowing that there may be a lawfull expositorius syllogismus, consisting of pure singulars, and consequent­ly in no mood) first there are foure termes at least in this syllogisme, to wit, [The Church of Rome, visible, the true Church, a true Church,] the true Church, and a true Church, are not one. Euery particular true Church is a true Church, yet neither euery particular, nor any particular Church is the true Catholike visible Church, of which the question is propounded, and de­bated by the Appealer. Againe, the minor [Page 91] terminus is not in the conclusion; the minor terminus is, [A true Church since it was a Church] which if he had put in the conclusion entire­ly, as he ought by the rules of good syllogi­zing, his argument would haue proued ri­diculous: viz.

The Church of Rome hath euer been visible:

The Church of Rome is and euer was a true Church since it was a Church;

Therefore a true church since it was a church hath beene euer visible.

Let the forme passe, enough of the huske; we will now chew the graine, and come to the matter of his syllogisme. First, were both the propositions true, yet the argument is fallacious: for the processe is ab ignotiori ad notius, the worst kind of the beggarly fallacy petitio Principii. The visibility of the catholique Church is more knowne then the vi­sibility of any one member, be it the Church of Rome: for the Catholique Church is visible and knowne in all the parts and members, and therefore must needs be more knowne then any one member. Secondly, the major is false, if it bee vnderstood in the Appealers sense: for, during many schismes in the Papa­cie, [Page 92] and when the Pope sate at Auennian, and not Rome, when diuers Popes were depo­sed by Councels for Schisme and Heresy, and sometimes the Pope set vp by the Councels, was deposed by the power of Princes, as Amodius; and sometimes the Popes deposed by Councels were reëstablished in their Popedomes by the power of Princes, as Eu­genius, the Church of Rome was not so visible, as the Appealer would haue it. Thirdly, if the Appealer vnderstand by the Church of Rome (as his friends and informers, and all Pro­testants generally vnderstand it, and as hee must, if he say any thing to the purpose.) a Church in Rome, and the Popes territories, or elsewhere, holding the present Romane faith, which is set downe in the Councell of Trent, both the major and minor are noto­riously false. For neither was there any church in the world, holding that faith, visible for many hundred yeeres after Christ; neither is the Church holding that erroneous faith a true Church▪ Howsoeuer, it may please God in that Church (as hee did in the Churches of the Arrians in Saint Hilary his time) to call many by the Word & Sacraments to the know­ledge [Page 93] of the truth; [...] quorum aures puriores erant quàm doctorum ora: whose eares were purer then the teachers mouthes; who strained the milke they receiued from their mother, and, casting away that which was impure, dranke downe onely the sincere milke of the word.

I suppose the Appealer will not affirm the Arrian Churches to bee true Churches; yet God had his wheat euen in their floore all couered with chaffe; and, I doubt not, but hee euer had, and still hath many thousands euen in the Romane Church it selfe, who neuer bowed the knee to that Baäl. Our question is not of them, but of their Gouernours and Teachers; and the outward face of their Church maintai­ning and practising idolatry, and inforcing as farre as they can the accursed Canons of the Councell of Trent, whether in this sense the Church of Rome be a true Church. It is saith the Appealer a true Church, Appea [...]e pag. 14 [...]. ratione essentiae, in re­gard of essence, but not in regard of soundnesse of doctrine. This answer explicateth not the question, but implieth a contradiction; to say, a true Church in respect of the essence, and not in respect of soundnesse of Doctrine, is to say, [Page 94] the church of Rome is a true church in respect of the essence, but not in respect of the essence; for, soundnesse of Doctrine is of the essence of the true church. By it the true Church is defined, Ar­ticle the 19. The visible church of Christ is a con­gregation of faithfull men, in the which the pure word of God is Preached, and the Sacraments bee duely ministred, according to Christs ordinance, in all those things that of necessity are requisite to the same.

If the Appealer by (truth) meaneth meta­physicall truth, which is of as large extent as being or entity, the more hee graspeth, the lesse hee holdeth: for in this account all Churches are true Churches; and the Church of Rome is no more indebted to the Appealer for his Euloge, then all the hereticall and schis­maticall Churches in Christendome; they are Churches, therefore in this sense, true Churches; for Ens et verum conuertuntur. In this acception, a thiefe is a true man, because it is true that he is a man; and the Deuill a true Angell, because it is true, that he is an Angell; and the Appealer a true writer, because it is true that he is a writer;Melancthon in Chroni­ [...]s. of whom it may be said, as it was of Seuerus, Omnia fuit et nihil [Page 95] profuit: he turneth euery way, and yet can­not passe; he angleth in all waters, and yet catcheth nothing; hee hath spent all his oyle in making salues for the foule sores of the Whore of Babylon, and yet hath left Her worse then he found Her.

The filing vp of the Writ.

THe errors of the Appealer, both in point of Arminianisme, and Popery, and of a different nature from both, being laid open in simplicity and sincerity; I first appeale from the Appealer to himselfe, as that Plain­tiffe sometime did from Philip to Philip. I ap­peale from the Appealer, as set on by others, to the Appealer as left to himselfe: from his rash, to his aduised; from his former, to his latter thoughts, which are vsually the wiser, [...], &c. Secundae cogitationes secundiores. And if he retract his errours, I will let fall the suit: if he persist in his erroneous opinions, I referre him, together with this discouery of his errors, to the Examination [Page 96] and Censure of the most learned, religious, and iudicious House of Conuocation now sitting, to whom vnder his Maiesty the cog­nizance of Doctrinall differences properly belong.Latius in Semipelagi­anismo. Faustus Regiensis intending to refute S. Austine vnder another name, that he might auoid all suspition of Pelagianisme, intitles the first Chapters of his Book against Pelagi­us; and vnder this vaile of opposing S. Au­stins professed enemie, from the third chap­ter of his booke to the end couertly carps at, and refels S. Austins learned Booke of the Predestination of Saints. Let moderate men, and no franticke Puritans iudge, whether the Ap­pealer, as in his matter, so in his manner of writing, follow not Faustus the Demipela­gian his patterne; whether pretending an an­swer to a Gagger of the Protestants, he intend and indeauour not to Gagge the most learned and zealous Protestants; and drawing out his stile more poinenant then a Stilletto, in colour and shew against the Romish enemie, hee cunningly giue not therwith a secret wound to his owne Mother the Church of England, and the true professors of the Gospell therein. As [Page 97] for the Fratres Descripti, the right and left hand of the Appealer, whose Trade hath beene for these many yeares past, to informe against the zealous and learned Defenders of the true religion established here in England vn­der the name of Puritans, quia volunt decipi, decipiantur. But for those graue and venerable Diuines, who are reported to haue subscri­bed to the Appealers Bookes, [I thinke the Relator was mistaken in the word, hee meant proscribed them] and all other anci­ent worthies of our Church, who yet ap­plaud and approue these late Polemickes of the Appealer, I humbly intreat them in the words of the Orator,

Videant Patres Conscripti ne circumscrip­ti videantur.
[...] Galat. 4. 16.

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